To me a difference between a man and a boy is a man would have a lot of good communication skills he doesn't want a model he wants an actual woman not the one said you see on magazines or the one that look like Kim k. He wants somebody that is right for him and only for him he will not cheat he'll beat the urge to look at a lady while she's working out or if a lady walks up to him he knows not to talk to her and the brush her off because he has somebody that he is already with. I believe that my generation has just boys on top of boys on top of boys because I'm not seen that one man show up in my generation maybe I'm not looking hard enough. I'm sure that this generation is just going to be a bunch of boys and still wants to hold mommy's hand while he lives in her basement. Or have his girlfriend do all the work. Obviously everything that a man does a boy not so you tell me do you know the difference?
My definitions are much more neutral and literal. A man is an adult male, a boy is an adolescent or pre-adolescent male. What you described is a shortlist of qualities you personally attribute to an 'eligible' romantic partner. In a way your definition of "men" is somewhat self-absorbed, because you only attribute qualities which benefit the woman in a romantic partnership. Now I happen to believe that loyalty in a relationship is one of the highest virtues a 'taken' man can embody. So I don't disagree with your assessment of how men in relationships ought to be.
But you've committed the logical fallacy of deriving an "is" from an "ought". You can't fundamentally define what a man IS by the attributes he OUGHT to embody. You don't actually get to decide that. A man will be what a man will be. What you CAN do is determine for yourself that you only want to date the men whose own conception of "what a man ought to be" happens to align with your own. When your "ought" and his "ought" line up, then you have a shared value system. That's more worthwhile than arbitrarily speaking for all men when you associate "boys" with what you consider the "wrong" value system, and "men" with what you consider the "right" value system. Your values are your values, and his values are his, and boys are boys and men are men. Let's keep our terminology nice and clear, because we need to all agree on common definitions of *what IS*, so as not to conflate them with *what ought to be*.
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I never said what a man is, I said what I THINK and I never thought anything about i romantic partnership went writing this. i was asking people what is there opinion about the difference between the two. There Is a clear different between the two it's not "boys are boys", and they are different. if your a man than you shouldn't feel a way of disrespect from this, or even comment on my topic. its eazy to scroll than to type out your anger. i was trying to be disrespectful, you feel that way.
I think you've got the wrong end of the stick from my comment. There's no anger on my part, I just didn't think your line of reasoning added up, so I presented an alternate interpretation. I didn't take any disrespect from your comment, believe me, I'm not one of those easily offended people who takes shit personally. I just enjoy a bit of spirited discussion and this seemed an interesting topic to weigh in on
A Man - takes responsibility for his actions works hard to provide for himself and others does the right thing even when it is harder Stands by his convictions
A boy Doesn't support himself blames others for his mistakes and misdeeds Doesn't believe in hard work Takes the easy road regardless of what is at stake Has no real convictions only convenient assertions
Everyone definition of a man will differ depending on the type of environment they grew up in/their values. For me, a man is someone who 1) has a job and can keep a job, 2) loves God, 3) has character/ integrity, 4) dependable, 5) has goals and has laid down real steps that will help him achieve those goals aka a purpose/intent, 6) has his own opinions/values, 7) strength - either physical or mental that helps makes me feel safe and secure when I'm around him, 8) can express his thoughts and communication effectively, 9) respects himself, me, and others.
You say you want a man who "loves God.". And yet you would have sex before marriage. (I read your response to the other question.). Something's not adding up.
@Jamie05rhs God loves sex, he put us on this earth to procreate. The fact that you went looking for my other commentary to other questions is the thing that is not adding up. You took extra time out ya day to try to discredit me like thats a B move.
The major difference between boys, boys trapped in adult bodies who think they're men, and legitimate men is their responsibility. Maturity. Self-confidence & esteem.
Boys & boys trapped in adult bodies who think they're men don't care. They are not that responsible. They lack maturity. They want cheap & easy. No commitment.
And boys / boys trapped in adult bodies who think they're men really wonder why the majority of women they get are desperate, low self-esteem, low confidence, sleep around, etc.
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Thank you so much for this!!! The boys are triggered over here.🤦
Maturity, the fact that men can make money, sense of worth, has respect for others and is kind, smart, confident. In a relationship I feel like a man would be graceful enough to smooth things over with his girl or at least be smart enough to realize its time to walk away for a bit. I feel like a man is someone who is a momma's boy because we all love our mom and there's no reason why you shouldn't be allowed to want to see your mom and act like a little kid again. Otherwise I feel like a man should be good enough to get what he wants even if it requires patience. I feel like he should be slow to anger and wants to keep himself in decent shape, knows how to take care of himself and if needed could be fine on his own without the help of a women
Well it may be how you see a real man, also you may have hurt a few people's pride than again its funny about how so many women think they know what a real man is, yet they haven't ever been one so who knows. I have a question for you? whats the difference between a woman and a girl?
Let me ask you a question Would you want a perfect girl? Would you want a women that have good communication skills? Would you like a women to cheat on you? Would you want your women to look at another guy while she workout? Would you like for your women talk to another guy without you knowing or she talking to a guy you never seen before?
No one is perfect, yea that's a given in a relationship, no, frankly speaking I don't care enough to try to boss her around everywhere she goes. There's always gonna be more attractive people out their. I don't mind her talking to other people, however it depends on what is being said. The reason I ask you what makes a good women is because you are a woman. Therefore if you don't have a answer to that than you don't see yourself as a good woman. You could simply put what makes you a good girlfriend.
I'm a women that knows how to be a women, I don't have to answer a question I don't want to answer. im better at showing it than telling, and the fact you said'there's always more attractive people out there"sounds like your saying you are gonna cheat on her it you see another female. you don't see me as a good women. the same question I asked you was in the topic of discussion is what all I asked just in a different way. so clam your self
I won't cheat on someone jut because their is someone more attractive out their. Their are many women who are extremely attractive but often than they usually aren't always good people
Ok, you won't cheat the questions you just answered was in the topic and all you had to do was answer them like this, y'all turn this into a problem for what?
you ask me why I thought so many men were triggered and I gave you a answer than I ask you a question than you gave me shit than you rebounded right back to the question and once again I answered
Ok but the topic was the questions I gave to you. i know you gave me in answer to my question, thanks the think that is werid is that you answered the questions that was in the topic, but mad at the topic? You had nothing wrong with the questions I gave you so... again I rebound the question to let you see that there is nothing wrong with it.
So loaded question. What makes a man is the ability to not conform to what other people are pressuring him to do. A man should be comfortable living his own life damn what everyone else thinks. Do I have my own personal opinion on how a man in my opinion should act? Yes I think they should be strong, stoic, low emotion, hate drama, and lead their family, they should avoid the puddle of politics if possible and seek a life of anonymity and peace. They should be capable of swift and harsh violence if the situation calls. They should be able to make a choice and go with that choice. They should not allow women to distract them nor get too focused on a single women (soul mates are bs) However do I know many men who I would consider men who don’t check all these boxes yes...
People these days (especially women) are obsessed with the idea of what it takes to be a "real man." In my experience though, the concept of "real man" is often used as a shaming tactic to guilt men into some form of compliance, usually for women's benefit. The real question should be what it takes to be an actual grown arse adult. The difference between a child and an adult is the adult has responsibilities. An adult should be respectful, have integrity and always follow through on their promises. An adult should be self sufficient and pay their own way. So while it is true that many men could be considered to be immature little boys, the same can be said about many women.
Well your not wrong, some women do that, but I don't the question was what is a boy and a man to YOU. my questions was right and I stand by it. this question was not to question no man masculinity or be disrespectful it was to get your opinion on what you think about the difference, its MY opinion.
Lol it's funny, look at all you people describing a Man according to fit your wishes that's cute and appropriate idealogy as per your age.
But why you people forget is that same boy you are down marketing is gonna be the man and not a man defined by you guys.
He has his own way his own Will and his own destiny.
To be Simple a Man is someone that defines himself takes his own decision and lead all those who follow them.
And for you dear focus on defining what kind a women you wanna be so you would eventually attract the right "The Man".
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It's funny how you got the strength to put your thoughts together to make this comment went you could have just scrolled by your age that's not appropriate. i never "down marketing"a man or define I was stating MY OPINION. its not a fact an OPINION just some of the things I THINK a man WOULD have. i would want you to answer some questions. 1.) do you want a women to have good communication skills? 2.) do you want your women to be "perfect"?
1st of all lol what's with strength to put your thoughts together at my age lol I am 30 not 😝 100.
And I commented collectively not just about your opinion and also gave views about it plus I wanted you to see that you cannot control someone else but be your person and you will attract the right guy.
1. Communication the fact about it is there are people who don't communicate that well but do things that matter most Doesn't have to do anything with being man.
Some people just know what you want or need without even communicating and its that level of trust.
And there are some men who communicate with only certain people.
2. perfect people, it's no gaurentee that perfect people are perfect for you.
Ok, the questions I just asked you was in the topic, I just said it in a different way. i was not describing a man according to my wishes. i was adding my to cents on what i THINK not what I WANT please reread it again. you didn't read it properly.
I have read, but that's what I am saying so you really didnot frame this man thing bc of your experiences? And the statement a real man doesn't want a model but a women that's tells something you know more like what you want a man should desire to become a man telling a boy how to be a man.
Strangely what's wrong with being mamas boy except for living in her basement and not paying the dues.
And that gym part lol women also look and men also but if it's done by women or a girl it's accepted.
Unfortunately it's how things work someone has to approach and what's wrong with talking when a girl approaches this ain't so simple men also havd feelings right if he wants to talk and she's OK with it what's wrong jn that and if she wants to talk and be friends what's wrong in that.
Agreed with thd brushing part most people are uncomfortable, but there are few that enjoy it also and it works for some those who take chance and there will be consequences to that good of bad and I am not supporting it but what I have seen from my experience as a dinasour the strength I gathered to type this 💪😜. I am just kidding and also serious on other part
So short and simple what I am saying is if we are stuck with definitions of perfect man and women we will not reach anywhere or will be able to love and live.
Because anything less would be a compromise.
But we have to work together to be something or someone better and it takes time and partnership
If it based off my experiences than why you pressed, also I never said a man should do this or be this I was saying what I think a man is. im not telling a boy how to be a man. your going to act on what I said (I don't want you to you do you) than why you mad. you are the type of guy that would bring a women into a conversation to make his point. we not talking about women just the difference between a man and a boy that's it. it's only wrong to talk to a female if it's not for work or your friends (I don't recommended). your right IF she is ok with it, im saying if she not.
I am not mad at all I was just engaing in a conversation I haven't said anything that shows even smallest of agresiveness I am just keeping counter parts, you might understand what I am saying in coming future because you would need to have some experience to understand that you will get eventually 💐🙂
Ok but if you talking about boy becoming man you should be open to bring a women in as you are a girl whose saying in her eyes a man is this, I am just trying to see what's the idealogy why in your views is only a man if he is certain way to achieve that I am just saying a man will be not bothered by others who are defining what he is in someone's opinion
Yes its Cute, I am not sure why you don't like it, it's not bad at all but OK, age matters you known in life you understand and learn things after having some experience human life is all about experiences after going through something only you will understand few things and the points of view will change for good or bad
The topic isn't about a women though it's about the difference. i really don't know where you're getting"whose saying in her eyes what a man is" that's in opinion from my personal experience not from factual talk. and if a man isn't brothered by others opinion than why do you care what I say?
The males that women typically talk down on are boys; they play games with, are only tryna get laid, and are always bragging about how they're the biggest baddest wolf in the pack. The males that women never see because there's so many boys, are men. They'll actually treat a woman like a queen as long as she treats him like a king. Like I said, because there's so many boys with the wrong ideas running around, it's hard for good women to find good men.
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How is trying to get laid? It's sad that you think I or anyone would want to talk down another person.
You don't know what a man is, specially since for you man means being perfect (in your mind) and capitulating to you.
A man, as in adult male, has many meanings. One of those meanings include the version of "adulthood" that is more than just aging. That man is just someone who can provide for himself and maybe others.
Adulthood is stoic provisioning for oneself and maybe kids. In order to deserve a man like that, you need to be a woman which means basically the same thing.
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I never said perfect, I know people aren't "perfect". you guys are so in your feelings you aren't reading the text right.🤦
I said "your vision of perfect" IE, your vision of "as good as possible".
Again, a man, as in adult male is just that, adult male. And when adult means more than again, it means stoic provisioning for oneself and maybe others.
How do you know my vision of a guy is perfect. i never said that you need to read that again, and again I was explaining what I think a man is not what they SHOULD BE. i wanted people to tell what TRAITS they though a man and a boy is.
I would define a man as someone who is committed and knows where to draw the line. The example you used was to brush off a woman if she talks to him if he is in a relationship. I disagree, I think the man would still talk to her but the moment she crosses the line he would stop her. He doesn't want someone flirting with him he wants a regular conversation and maybe make a friend.
A boy is someone who drops what he has to get the best deal. If he has a girlfriend and sees that he has a chance with a hotter woman then he would drop the one he has. That's a boy. He will be knocked on his ass and there is where he will think and start taking steps to become a man... Hopefully... he might just be an idiot.
This is how y'all treat the difference between a man and a boy:
Man: has no flaws
Boy: has flaws
That's ridiculous, but this is basically what you're saying.
That has always annoyed me because people who talk about topics like this are the ones who totally and utterly pale in comparsion of having the traits of what you say a "man" should be.
You're wrong for implying that there is or should be any difference. Use whatever words you want. Define it however you want. you're wrong for saying it at all.
As long as you hold "men" to ang standard that is different from women, toxic masculinity will exist.
As long as you keep trying to define men vs boys and insult men for falling into some arbitrary category that you define, is toxic.
You're toxic. Women are toxic. Men treat eachother like shit. Toxic masculinity exists because of shit like this.
Fuck you, fuck your definitions.
All people are human beings. We all live our own life and we all wish to be happy.
The difference between a man and a boy is their age. That is all.
When you turn 18 society views you as a man, you are a man. End of discussion.
@Hivebee I forgot to tell your name is spelled wrong might wanna mix that just like your hate for women. on your page it's ether about hate for women or something else. fix your else before you wreak your self. thanks love 😘
A man is an adult male, and to be an adult you need to take responsibility of your life and be independent. Same would go for women, that why we have less women and men today and simply just big girls and boys. They no longer take responsibility just blame others. You do not necessarily need communication skills aslong as you can accept the consequences of lacking them.
A man is mature, responsible, knows how to treat a female, is serious and figured it out. A boy is the opposite of all that. A boy usually still wants to not lose the fun and not grow up. They won't put aside old bad habits & want to fool around
Boys: Treats people not just women like shit Abusive towards his partner Gets angry when he hears the word no or is rejected. Immature Can't own up to his own mistakes Men: Respects himself and others Compassionate and loving towards his partner Sticks up for himself and others Accepts rejection and knows that not everyone is gonna love him Mature Owns up to his mistakes and apologizes
Being a man is not an age but an attitude. Boys live life in pursuit of pleasure. He is usually self-serving. He is define by the perception of his boys!
A man is a seasoned male that has learned life is more than carnal pleasure. He understands the importance of love, peace and the pursuit of happy. This maturity translates into finding his purpose. Women become partners not sex toys.
There are more components but these few will help you.
Men have far better interpersonal skills, know that actions speak louder than words, and are normally more muscular and bearded (or have the ability to be)
Umm what you said has nothing to do with it. A real woman and not a model? Whats wrong with models? I've dated plenty of models. Believe it or not they are real women too. Smh.
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I was talking about how they look compare to a women. when models are on stage.
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