That's like asking if anyone believes in Nice Guys and Jerks. The 'Alpha' and 'Beta' descriptors are just that. They describe a collection of characteristics and behavioral patterns, which have been agreed upon by the (reasonable) members of a populace. Now, one could certainly enter the 'Nature vs Nurture' debate, as it pertains to all of those '(insert Greek letter)-males' out there, but regardless of why, there is clearly a there, there. As for myself, I'm a 100%, purest of purebreds, 'Sigma Male.' Which, for some unknown reason, is becoming a kind of buzzword, I guess - As I have been seeing it referenced WAY more often than ever... which is really something odd, since I have never seen it come up in pop-culture prior to this 2021. But don't all you girls swoon, and don't be jealous, guys, (... since it's not due simply to me being Freakin' Awesome! Sadly, no. Rather, it's the result of me having a very uncommon sub-type, of a moderately common, psychological disorder). Also, women can freely argue about how nice their Beta-male friends are, knowing full-fucking-well that they're going to have an Alpha in mind later, when they "take a bath"... yeah, we know what that means, ladies. (No one likes loofahs that much!) Sure, I'd like to feel like an Alpha-male again, (as I did, every day, back in the Marine Corps). But, hell... what guy wouldn't? Although not for life; because here, in this plush and comfortable civilian's life we ALL binge-watch our way through, Alphas just end up acting like assholes. That's not for me. I may be a loner, but coming off as a prick, and mistreating women, is something I just don't have the stomach for. All in all, I'd still have to say, in my humble and well thought out opinion, (if by 'humble' I mean arrogant, and by 'well thought out' I mean fairly retarded), whatever you may be, the most important man to be like is Popeye The Sailor Man, as it is he who says "I am, what I am." ... Because we have enough bullshit out there, these days - we don't need any more. So, whether you are an Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta Burke, Lamda Lamda Lamda, Sigma, Omega-3 fatty acid, Epsilon, Douchebag, etc... just be yourself.
I think it’s something men have socially accepted. That there are typically men that are considered beta , and men that are considered alpha. But to consider one and being either one or the other , that’s assuming the factors which determine either trait is fixed. Whereas people in society are all different. A lot of guys who are socially active and have large friendships circles and/or give the impression of being more confident. Which may lead to them having more success with females may lead other men to believe the reason they have more success is because there alpha.
it even drives men to purposely try and act more alpha to attract girls. Where as in reality it can do the opposite and actually make them feel rather uncomfortable and scared. I’ve seen it happen in bars. Whereby , certain guys will essentially become more loud , try to be funny to appear more social. You know more “alpha”. Whilst girls was paying attention to then. It more to do with the fact they was actually scaring the girls and making them uncomfortable.
I think it has to do with testosterone and how competitive men can become with one another. Some may believe more alpha males are successful. But I believe it’s not alpha is individual skills such as soft skills and hard skills combined either through experience or education that leads to a successful person.
It’s a very complicated topic , there are multiple answers based on different scenarios and people. Whether it be to achieve success with women , career or either obtain more friendships. I think because society is so diverse sometimes people can develop to have more alpha characteristics in their personality, or beta. It’s individualistic.
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Of course not…. People can not be categorized. This is like horoscopes. There are many factors to have some personality type. I think these are the new way to deceive adolescents or emotionally weak people. People make money from this instagram pages and YouTube canals and so on 😂 they just try to play with peoples’ emotions. If someone want to be effective person in every area of his life He or she must read psychology books or watch human psychology videos. If someone can understand himself/herself He or she can be more succesful in his\her relationships too. Human psychology is scientific. Learn yourself and work on yourself see your patterns and change them. And you will have new life.
There can be some truth about every topic we can consider about them. The whole concept can not be the true and labeling ourselves and directed by the owners of the instagram pages/YouTube canals this is the pathetic. I saw them and i was shocked they try to direct people everyday, they see themselves as a king and try to play with peoples’ emotions. They make money.
Nope. There are just dominating humans who like to control others and be worshipped on one extreme and complete sheep on the other. Most people I know aren’t either or - everyone has their strong and weak moments. Sometimes I take control of a situation and other times I leave it to others, depending on what it is.
The idea is based on a series of experiments on wolves, in turn based on wildly inaccurate ideas of what life is like in the wild for them. It turns that creatures kept in packs far larger than biology designed them for and held in captivity act in a manner wildly inconsistent with nature. Who could've guessed? Except people with the slightest bit of experience with living things, of course.
In terms of accuracy, the idea is right up there with phrenology and phlogiston, but for some bizarre reason, people still take it seriously. I think it's because it lets them feel superior to others, but if that's what you want, why not opt for geocentrism instead? You can LITERALLY claim the sun revolves around you!
Yes, women judge men based off the 10% alpha. I fall between, and yeah you will say that makes me beta. Was with a certified 8 woman for 11 years, probably on par with me as an 8. I want not even close to wealthy at this point. What I noticed as a spectator in our friends lives. Women as low as a 6 and sometimes even a 5, sleep with men who are a 10. Then judge all men against this 10. Men as low as a 9 sleep with women at the 10 level. So almost 50% of women judge all men against a 10. But here is the rub, 9's sleep with 5's constantly and are treated poorly by the 9. 8's also sleep with 5s constantly, and still treat them poorly. I was happy with an 8 being an 8 or maybe a 7. Women as a 5 want a 10, because one time. So yes, Alpha males exist and they can normally break all rules of society. And get away with it, as women often ask "does that alpha actually exist.". Because that woman doesn't want to accept her actual SV. Because you see, outside of the 10 male; women actually rule the world. But including that "10" of a male, he rules. Not salty, because I am intelligent and able to make money. One of the other attributes that make men stand above others as far as women are concerned (actually probably a 7 in attractiveness and a 9.5 in money - ends up to average above that 90% needed to attracts a women - and yes an average with a woman is weighted towards the high end so 7*9.5/9 can equal 9+). If you take the mean women rule, if you take the median men do. Funny world we live in.
No, I don’t like those words because it’s become common among immature people. The one who bullies everyone calls himself ‘alpha’ while the ones who they bully, they call them ‘beta’ but only the crazies use those terms.
With that said, I still do believe that there is a social status hierarchy. The ones who are successful and socially charming are definitely more respected than the ones who don’t have those qualities
This. The whole "alpha/beta/sigma/etc" thing is just people trying to put into words the social hierarchy , but what I see is that it is flexible and dynamic. For an example, the "geek" could have a lot of social status in a technological setting, while the "jock" can have a lot of social status in an athletic setting. I have been at the top and bottom of various totem poles in my life, so I don't believe in a "you're this type of person" philosophy.
I laugh at it I have known a couple guys that have said that out loud when I was standing buy them and all I could do is laugh and say what the fuck did you just say you're not even in the alphabet anybody that considers himself alpha male I would stay away from because they have some kind of weird thing going on in their brain
Yes but not how it's portrayed. I believe you have strong and weak people. Their actions and motives will speak for themselves. A pedophile is a beta, a wife beater is a beta, if they hit a handicapped person they are beta. Adopting kids, helping the poor, opening up about your feelings are not traits of betas. They are traits of guardians, protectors, active participants, productive members of society.
Lol the dude in the picture is actually traditionally labeled a beta male.
This is a subculture of values on masculinity and ideas on a man being alpha or beta or sigma or omega or whatever. It's a way to say, one man is weak and passive and self destructive and is not strong enough to protect the society and is not desirable to girls sexually, one is strong and tough and protects his society and gets laid, one is introverted but still has some friends and is in between kinda is like a alpha but is a little more flexible.
It's not a belief system, is a personality categorization label that we engage in as men that's been adopted by society lately. All guys tend to understand what is meant by this even if they don't agree with it.
I don't use the label, as I absolutely abhor labels.
My personality is heavily dominant. By the definition of the category, I'm an "Alpha" male. But I reject the label because I don't need a 'pack' of men smelling up my ass nor do I care to have them. I prefer to be the only male in my world and it revolves around the females in my life.
Yes I do in some points. Because there are guys that are more dominant than others. It´s easier for some guys to be known and get in contact with women. Besides there is some kind of hierarchy between guys or otherwise the saying: "Nice guys finish last.", would never have started. There are guys that are stronger in character and in physique than others while there guys that are terrible at taking charge or initiave. On the other hand I think these only behavior signs like there is only alpha or beta behavior a guy shows. I think a guy could change that if he really wants.
Yes, even though people tend to misrepresent what it means. They exist, regardless of what some women think (even though these women still tend to believe in them; they just don't admit it).
An "Alpha Male" is just a fully confident, fully independent, self-assured man who lives life by his own rules and seeks happiness and fulfillment outside of society's expectations of him.
A "Beta Male" is a spineless, weak, cowardly, submissive male, especially one that glorifies and worships all women and holds envy and jealousy towards men more successful than him.
Most men are neither Alpha nor Beta, however. I rarely use the terms "Alpha Male" and "Beta Male," but sometimes they're just easier to explain that all of that I just wrote up there. While it's hard to find synonyms for an Alpha Male, we all know Beta Males can also just be known as Soyboys and often times, Male Feminists (not all, but like 95% of them).
Not at all. It doesn't apply to humans (or to wolves, for who the term originated for) and thus is the end of that conversation. It's genuinely stupid in my eyes to see someone believe or use those terms.
Say people that call themselves "Alpha males", same with the "Strong independent woman" rhetoric tend to be full of it personally. People are people, as long as you stand up for what is right and don't falter, you are more of a man or woman than most
Yes and no. -Yes because a lot of guys can't help but try and make it seem they're better than you or posting contests. -No because I'm not gonna let all that shit control and define my mind and life.
I find it odd to contest the idea. Call them whatever you want. They're just labels to describe an observed reality. You can get hung up on the labels if you like.
The terms alpha and beta are used to describe certain personality types and behaviors. There is no question those personality types and behaviors exist. The only problem is that some people don't like the terms some people use to describe them, which is kind of silly.
I agree these people out there do exist, its just a stupid way of labeling people. People are going to have different type of personalities just human nature.
I believe in men who act like they know what they're doing and men who act afraid to show if they know anything. I know of men who try to control everything and men who are passive about situations.
I gave a simple answer too, I used to but not anymore. And I didn't say you were putting pressure on men just that the alpha/beta concept does... It was an opinion
Nope, it's as true as a unicorn flying on the sky. These terms are only created by insecure men who label themselves as alpha because they can't treat women right, so they SHAME and mock the gentlemen by calling them 'beta' or simp.
Oh absolutely I do. I've experienced this dynamic throughout my entire life... However, I feel like there are sooo many sub genres of these two categories. Most cis men kind of view it like "conquer or cuck" lmao, it's absolutely fucked. I def fall into some category under "Beta" and I sit by the sidelines watching the madness unfold.
Not necessarily. You go after what you want, have confidence, drive, and ambition or you don't. Anything else is unnatural and amounts to manipulation.
Only as a joke. I unfortunately know plenty of pranksters who would dub themselves sigma males or some old bullshit, which we all know what that really means.
It’s mostly a meme, people act differently depending on the situation, one can be confident in a certain situation but not in another that doesn’t mean they are alpha/beta/sigma or whatever. I think a lot of the YouTube dating coaches are pushing this bs.
Yes, of course. And if you don't get it yet then you just haven't met an alpha male. They're rare... the rest are beta-cucks. There are leaders of men, and then there are followers, that is the main difference. Which do YOU want to be with?
Alpha: leader, decisive, has a plan and working on it, actually going someplace and being someone, focused, successful, genuine, confident.
Beta: not sure of anything, looking for an easy way out, can't make a decision, is wishy-washy, weak, supplicating, tries to please too hard, won't say what he means and won't do what he says, is unreliable, compliments are hollow or fake, has feminine traits and mannerisms, believes he's inferior to women.
100%, It's simple a Alpha Male is someone who is much of extrovert and can express themselves with confidence mainly relating to sexual context. While on the other side of things a Beta Male is more of an introvert and so called 'virgin' with near to non sexual relation or confidence, this can also relate to looks and body formation.
Whether you want to believe in these titles or not, It's a fact there's masculine brave males, and wimpy coward guys.. I call the cowards beta and the brave ones real men, aka alpha... that's jus how I see it
It is obvious that people have different abilities. Those few with the greatest abilities are Alpha males and the many times more common males with less ability are Beta males.
To an extent I suppose. From a woman's perspective who is alpha and who is beta is subjective so yes and no but there are definitely some objective things to be better and that would be confidence for example
Definitely exists. If a guy is loud, obnoxious or just plain dominating with regards to dating vs subdued, shy or low-key. Most girls SAY they like one type but actively seek the other.
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Yes I believe in it.. it's categorisation based on attitudes and personality type and it does exist... Robert Downey Jr is classic example of alpha male in my eyes
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Yeah it's real. I'm a beta and I know men who have alpha traits.
And I'm clearly different from them. Same age as me or older they are different.
true and that's just the nature of life, some people are going to have it better than others. What I think is stupid is labeling yourself as something.
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