Social pressures, social idealisms, financial stress, horrible romance life, a string of horrible traumas & circumstances. Many of these things cause stress and in a society that doesn't want to hear about it or care, you feel like there is nowhere to turn that will be there, no way out of what seems like a living hell. Most men don't reach out because they feel they can't and a great deal of the time, many are not able to without someone wanting something in return. Finding people who will be there when you just want someone to be there is insanely rare, because most tend to run away from any slight awkwardness or inconvenience ( this is also true in romance/dating)
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I agree with that other post. Toxic masculinity is the biggest reason. When I cried in front of girls, they all gave me looks of disgust and annoyance. Then after that, I stopped showing my emotions to any girls. I cut them off. As men, we are told to keep our feelings to ourselves. And weakness is considered being emotional as a guy.
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Also, girls. I know a lot of guys who tried to commit suicide because of women in their lives.
Men and boys are given conflicting messages about how to handle their challenges. They are disingenuously told to talk about their problems more, but are also told to shut the fuck up and quit whining when they do talk about them. The fact is that when men talk about their problems, no one takes it seriously. In psychology it's known as a double bind. This article does a good job of explaining the problem.
When women talk about their problems, they are supported by society, the mental health system and feminism. When men talk about their problem, this is what they get.
A women at work had that cup. My boss an 77 year old Jesuit would gag when she was drinking from it. One day a contractor started to laugh at it and she asked so I told her what "Male tears" meant and she turned white and threw the cup away..
Because guys are also more likely to be socially awkward and to be an outsider. Guys often times under estimate a problem and they are less likely to ask for help because they may not know how and where but also they don't trust the other person to help. Guys often times solve problems alone therefore no ones our problems. But because some guys fail many times again and again they give up on life and make the decision to go through with it.
Women seldom attempt to commit suicide and fail. Instead, they are seeking attention by making it appear they attempted suicide. They don't take a deadly poison when they know no one will find them until long after they are dead. Instead, they take pills when they know, someone will find them in time to save them.
Because no one is listening. The issues surrounding men's mental health contains several conversations that are so heavily politicised and uncomfortable people don't want to face them.
It's easier just to write it all off as "men can't express their feelings very well" or "if society let men cry everything would be better".
Because the society is so hard on men when it comes to expressing their feelings. If a man cries they call him weak They act like men are machines not humans with heart and feelings
Men are considered weak if they talk about their feelings. They are shamed by society. Women claim they want guys who are in touch with their feelings and not afraid to communicate them; but when they do, they are considered weak and not a real man anymore.
because people in general expects us to be real life Superman. they want us to be strong as steel and succeed in every expectations they put on us and if we failed at anything then its the scorn/ridicule hammer for us. and if we try to remind everyone that we are just as humans as everyone else then its the "man up and suck it up" hammer.
Bc we are the ones that has to be the rock for everyone any sort of weakness we are considered weak and are pussies if we do have a problem no one really cares so how are we suppose to talk to anyone when pretty much no one cares. how do most men vent most either will turn to alcohol or drugs just to have a moment of peace and blur reality for that moment or drugs and some will hit objects etc. for me i hold everything in bc im the one that everyone turns to fix everything.
man can be way way way more impulsive... and actually commit it, they go full way, not half way through with it
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It depends on a lot of things, the enviroment, how you grow up, who were you parents, your friends. but as someone that almost take that choice, i have to say, for me it was more what they would be expecting from me, the stress, society, every action you take can become a consecuence, and if you are not prepared for how they respond, your world goes down the toilet. But to answer your question , honestly i don't know, is more of perspective if you try too see it, in reddit there are communities that helps those who think about suicide, go look at it, maybe you will find you answer
A man , in most cases , is on his own in life. Men do not have the typically strong support networks that women tend to have. Also both genders view women in a far morte positive light than men. In Western countries there is a default anti male attitude , know this full well as a single dad.
Once saw a video of a guy who lost his job, girlfriend and everyone else left him, while life streaming he just sat down on his chair and said "Well then society pushed be to this, good bye" took out a shotgun and shot himself in the head. Western society is pretty harsh on men. While women get away with everything, we always have to be strong confident, provide, do all physical works, let us being taken advantage of by feminist society. Men's feelings are expendable to society
Wrong answers only: Men more often have the balls to do it. - Speaking of balls, we're the, "biologically" inferior gender - that one kills me. Middle-aged frustration goes a long way. Dealing with women/wives/EX-es and child support, man-hater court... etc. Brain chemistry, drug addictions, and ruthless searching for alternatives to dealing with things. The macho-istic pride to think, "I'm not that weak..."
In two words... "Man up" Men think they are weak if they seek help or show emotions. So they bottle up everything and never deal with it. One day it's to much to endure. Funny thing is the biggest judgement and pressure for this comes from other men. Not women.
Because of toxic feminazis portraying men as evil. This has caused a massive bias in our society. Everyone likes to 'help' women. Everyone likes to be the 'white knight'. But not all of those people would stick around for other men.
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Social pressures, social idealisms, financial stress, horrible romance life, a string of horrible traumas & circumstances. Many of these things cause stress and in a society that doesn't want to hear about it or care, you feel like there is nowhere to turn that will be there, no way out of what seems like a living hell. Most men don't reach out because they feel they can't and a great deal of the time, many are not able to without someone wanting something in return. Finding people who will be there when you just want someone to be there is insanely rare, because most tend to run away from any slight awkwardness or inconvenience ( this is also true in romance/dating)
I agree with that other post. Toxic masculinity is the biggest reason. When I cried in front of girls, they all gave me looks of disgust and annoyance. Then after that, I stopped showing my emotions to any girls. I cut them off. As men, we are told to keep our feelings to ourselves. And weakness is considered being emotional as a guy.
Also, girls. I know a lot of guys who tried to commit suicide because of women in their lives.
I just read an article in psychology today. It said two things.
Most mental health issues are the result of trama. .
Men's number one cause of
trama outside combat was issues with women and relationships with them.
Again , only combat caused more traumatic mental injury to men than women.
Men and boys are given conflicting messages about how to handle their challenges. They are disingenuously told to talk about their problems more, but are also told to shut the fuck up and quit whining when they do talk about them. The fact is that when men talk about their problems, no one takes it seriously. In psychology it's known as a double bind. This article does a good job of explaining the problem.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/talking-about-men/201906/the-men-s-mental-health-double-bind
When women talk about their problems, they are supported by society, the mental health system and feminism. When men talk about their problem, this is what they get.
A women at work had that cup. My boss an 77 year old Jesuit would gag when she was drinking from it. One day a contractor started to laugh at it and she asked so I told her what "Male tears" meant and she turned white and threw the cup away..
Because men are raised to believe that expressing their emotions is bad and many people reinforce that idea by reacting badly to male emotions.
They are left to deal with these emotions strictly internally. This can drive any person to suicide eventually.
Men deserve better than that.
They deserve to be treated like humans who experience human emotions.
See a man crying? Give him a hug, not words.
Because guys are also more likely to be socially awkward and to be an outsider. Guys often times under estimate a problem and they are less likely to ask for help because they may not know how and where but also they don't trust the other person to help.
Guys often times solve problems alone therefore no ones our problems.
But because some guys fail many times again and again they give up on life and make the decision to go through with it.
Women seldom attempt to commit suicide and fail. Instead, they are seeking attention by making it appear they attempted suicide. They don't take a deadly poison when they know no one will find them until long after they are dead. Instead, they take pills when they know, someone will find them in time to save them.
Why do you believe that?
Because it is a cry for help and if they really wanted to commit suicide, they would.
Because no one is listening. The issues surrounding men's mental health contains several conversations that are so heavily politicised and uncomfortable people don't want to face them.
It's easier just to write it all off as "men can't express their feelings very well" or "if society let men cry everything would be better".
good point, but the real reason is because nobody actually cares about men
Too true
women
No rights
Life was better when women had no rights
Too fucking true
Unironically true as fuck
Unironically horny
Because the society is so hard on men when it comes to expressing their feelings.
If a man cries they call him weak
They act like men are machines not humans with heart and feelings
Men are considered weak if they talk about their feelings. They are shamed by society. Women claim they want guys who are in touch with their feelings and not afraid to communicate them; but when they do, they are considered weak and not a real man anymore.
this is a self explanatory question
because people in general expects us to be real life Superman. they want us to be strong as steel and succeed in every expectations they put on us and if we failed at anything then its the scorn/ridicule hammer for us. and if we try to remind everyone that we are just as humans as everyone else then its the "man up and suck it up" hammer.
Bc we are the ones that has to be the rock for everyone any sort of weakness we are considered weak and are pussies if we do have a problem no one really cares so how are we suppose to talk to anyone when pretty much no one cares. how do most men vent most either will turn to alcohol or drugs just to have a moment of peace and blur reality for that moment or drugs and some will hit objects etc. for me i hold everything in bc im the one that everyone turns to fix everything.
man can be way way way more impulsive... and actually commit it, they go full way, not half way through with it
It depends on a lot of things, the enviroment, how you grow up, who were you parents, your friends. but as someone that almost take that choice, i have to say, for me it was more what they would be expecting from me, the stress, society, every action you take can become a consecuence, and if you are not prepared for how they respond, your world goes down the toilet. But to answer your question , honestly i don't know, is more of perspective if you try too see it, in reddit there are communities that helps those who think about suicide, go look at it, maybe you will find you answer
A man , in most cases , is on his own in life. Men do not have the typically strong support networks that women tend to have. Also both genders view women in a far morte positive light than men. In Western countries there is a default anti male attitude , know this full well as a single dad.
The answer I got from a psych was women attempt it more. Because they can. And people will feel empathy and sympathy for them.
And that men choose the nos5 violent means of ending themselves. Shot gun to a head, driving a car into a wall est.
The idea is to destroy themselves.
Really your going down a long rabbit hole asking questions like this and it won't come out how you expect
Their is no evidence for women attempting it more that's impossible to know but women certainly do it for attention more often.
,, attempt,, as in unsuccessful
Yes it's impossible to know that most attempts go completely unnoticed.
Once saw a video of a guy who lost his job, girlfriend and everyone else left him, while life streaming he just sat down on his chair and said "Well then society pushed be to this, good bye" took out a shotgun and shot himself in the head.
Western society is pretty harsh on men. While women get away with everything, we always have to be strong confident, provide, do all physical works, let us being taken advantage of by feminist society. Men's feelings are expendable to society
Great take, simply the truth without embellishment.
Wrong answers only:
Men more often have the balls to do it.
- Speaking of balls, we're the, "biologically" inferior gender - that one kills me.
Middle-aged frustration goes a long way.
Dealing with women/wives/EX-es and child support, man-hater court... etc.
Brain chemistry, drug addictions, and ruthless searching for alternatives to dealing with things.
The macho-istic pride to think, "I'm not that weak..."
In two words...
"Man up"
Men think they are weak if they seek help or show emotions. So they bottle up everything and never deal with it. One day it's to much to endure.
Funny thing is the biggest judgement and pressure for this comes from other men. Not women.
Women often take less lethal methods like pills while men just blow their brains out
We try to be effective in everything we do
Because of toxic feminazis portraying men as evil. This has caused a massive bias in our society. Everyone likes to 'help' women. Everyone likes to be the 'white knight'. But not all of those people would stick around for other men.
Now I'll give you some research backed facts. Women like other women more than men like other men.
https://www.apa.org/monitor/dec04/women
And people in general are more likely to risk themselves to help a women than to risk themselves to help a man
www.newstatesman.com/.../are-you-more-likely-put-yourself-risk-help-woman-help-man
Our society just simply shows more empathy and kindness toward women. This makes life hard for men
You’re right and that stigma should be changed, it’s not right