My sons a senior in high school he graduates this spring. He’s never had a girlfriend or been on a date. I know he likes virus finds them attractive! He tells me all the time he likes that girl or this girl looks hot. I’ve totally caught him checking out girls. I laugh and say I caught you! But he doesn’t really pursue any girls. Is this normal? Aren’t boys that age usually like girl crazy?
(This is a great big wall of text with the first paragraph being actually relevant, apologies in advance lmao) It's quite possible he may already have someone he has his eye on, or has already been trying. It's also plausible he's tried to ask girls out in the past with bad experiences. You mix that in with the current dating climate and the string of negatives such as the #metoo movement and it can put you off. Go on a dating platform (any really; tinder OkCupid, POF) and pretend to be an 18 yo guy, have a scroll through and to see for yourself.
I'm 22 and never had a girlfriend or any form of relationship but I did try a few times in person between middle school and senior. "No" and "ew" were okay but being the laughing stock for a year after one girl told the entire class was enough to put me off doing that face to face again lol. Overhearing one girl talk about how gross I was and needing to wash her hands after touching me in a school play further concreted that one. I was never an attractive lad which didn't help, but was never an outcast and developed good friendships throughout school.
Fast forward a few years of on and off dating sites and I'm currently watching a relative get dragged through the mud over a false sexual assault allegation from a recent relationship. Lost his job, small town so shattered his reputation, court, lawyers, police, the whole works. You hear stories about #metoo and false allegations but seeing it happen to someone you love is something else. It's gut wrenching. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.
My father passed when I was young, whether this has something to do with my difficulty finding a relationship or not I'm not sure. I've always had a lot of anxiety but I guess I'm "manly" in the sense otherwise (got the toolshed to prove it haha). My mother was incredibly supportive growing up, although I can see some of the wrongdoings she's put my stepfather through and isn't quite the angel I used to think she was but I still love her and always will.
I'm definitely not angry at all women, I love them and I still really hope to find the right person someday. I really want a family of my own which again seems to further put women off. But after seeing everything that's happened around me and how much difficulty and heartbreak I'd have to go through just for the 50/50 chance of either being loved or dragged through the mud, there comes a point where you have to ask yourself "why am I bothering, am I helping myself or hurting myself by trying?". It hurts like hell saying that but you've gotta think logically. Deleting dating apps did me wonders. Focus on yourself, your health, your job, your hobbies, things you love doing, go out and explore the place, leave your phone at home and go for a beach walk, try a new food etc (yeah yeah generic lifecoach spiel I know lol). If I stumble into the one then hey I'd love a companion, but I'm not going to hold myself against it if I don't or worse still force myself into a relationship I'll regret. A lot of guys I think are going that way, and it's gonna need to be women who prove us wrong.
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Ok there’s a lot there we’re you going after girls out of your league? Or the ew girl what attracted you to her besides her looks?
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What did you like about her besides physical appearance
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I guess the fact that she was nice enough to talk to 12 year old me, we had some things in common and enjoyed the same stuff? This was the best part of 10 years ago mind you, I kinda forced myself to forget about her as soon as she hit me with the ew, she stopped hanging out with me after that anyway. I'm not superficial if that's what your asking, a good personality always comes first
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yI think it’s because so many guys have no social skills any more because of social media and smartphones. People barely speak to one another in person anymore; we handle more and more relationships on the internet than in real life now.
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This is so unfortunate
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This is also what I have meant in my other comments about social media and real life social situations. I was sitting at starbucks and put my phone aside, which I always do, looked around and there were people nearby. So I started a conversation with a question like this:
"Do you believe that making new friends in the 90s and 80s was way easier and better than nowadays? Because of all the digital era, social media"
They felt creeped out. Which I don't understand because that situation was very normal. You are chilling, well-groomed, love to talk at a cafê...
... I guess it's true
+1 yMaybe dating isn't a huge priority for him right now. Checking girls out and finding them hot is one thing, but dating/finding a relationship is another step and thing so could be possible he's waiting for college maybe even after. I know guys at my job in their 20s who are barley dating and they didn't do much dating at 17 or 18 either.
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Ok as a mom I just want to make sure he’s socially adjusted I don’t want him to miss out because he’s anxious or shy anything like that
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@PizzaPieMamaBear you sound like such a sweet, thoughtful, caring mom so you've done your part and still continue to do so. I totally get what you mean though. I wasn't the most social in high school myself, work actually helped me become more social and volunteering:) It wouldn't hurt to ask him sometime how he feels about dating, he may say he's not ready or shy to approach a girl, something like that but I'm sure any reassurance will make him happy as his mom. I'm not a mom yet but I sort of grew up with nephews and one just graduated high school too and he has friends but no girlfriend yet, not fully sure why but maybe he just hasn't met that girl yet or waiting for college. People meet people in different ways these days. I met my current boyfriend on tinder.
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I’m 40 I got married at 22 I didn’t do this online dating thing I was married for 15 years before my husband passed away. I just started dating again and My current boyfriend lives down the block I’ve known him and his family for years. So I’ve never had to do online dating. I get that’s how your generation dares tho I’m just not used to it. I was so boy crazy at that age but I guess not everyone is like that and the times are changing too! I just started dating again and my son was watching me and my boyfriend kiss. I could see like he had something on his mind. I asked him if he had any forks he had his eye on he said “ehh kinda but not really” I asked him if he wanted a girlfriend and he just kinda shrugged his shoulders as to say whatever. It’s ok it’s fine! I just want to make sure he’s happy he lost his date at a young and developing age. I just want to make sure he’s developing normally as boys do.
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Thanks for the kind words I see that we also date the same age lol
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Indeed these days the whole dating dynamic is very different than back then. I used to be very opposed to it to be honest and disgusted because of the negative experiences I had with online dating but honestly, I've met people in person too and still have had a fair share of heartaches. In high school it just wasn't a huge priority and I was dealing with some mental health struggles so I took time to grow and mature, and I met people at work too and church face to face but I just didn't click with anyone really or there wasn't a connection. My boyfriend and me are still in the beginning stages but he's been super thoughtful, communicative, and genuine. Of course tinder and other dating apps can have a bad rep but love and romance can blossom or happen in the craziest ways it's life. I even heard of a couple who met on tiktok! I know crazy!! Of course as you being as a mom I'm sure you want what's best for your son too and I'm sure he'll be fine. It's just taking a little longer but there's nothing wrong with that. I bet a wonderful young lady is gonna show up when none of you expect it then you won't have to worry.
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You're welcome too! I love your profile picture. I love pizza too much lol. My boyfriend is 20 and I am 24 years old but he acts more mature than some guys I met who were 27 or 30.
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I hope so!!! Thank you so much for the kind words
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My husband was a pizza maker and came from a long line of pizza makers so I’m the pizza mama bear lol
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+1 yHe is still young, why pressure him or he is seing people but not telling you 🤔
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Also yeah I did have my first real date with 16 but I started actively dating with like 19, some people are just late bloomers
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I don’t think he’s seeing anyone I’m not pressuring I lost my husband 3 years so I just want to make sure he’s developing normally I get nervous. I’m not pressuring him it’s fine. I just started dating again 3 years after my husband passed. I have a current Boyfriend and my son was watching us kiss. I asked my son if he had his eye on any girls and he says “eeeh kinda but not really” I asked him I he wanted a girlfriend he kinda shrugged his shoulders at me. So I just let it go.
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Maybe it also could be that he doesn't wanna talk about it with you?
Also maybe if you think he is like having problems getting over the loss of his father, getting some therapy for a little while can really do wonders and the therapist can show ways to cope and move on - +1 y
😞 I know it would be easier to talk to his dad 😢… I feel like there’s somethings I’m just not equipped to talk to him about… I took him to a therapist for a while it was good I think. I was a little I don’t wanna say concerned but curious on why he was watching my boyfriend and I kiss I didn’t want to make a deal over it or make him think kissing is some big deal or no no or anything like that
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Maybe he just looked cause he had to cope with you having someone new? I'm just wildly assuming but yeah
And I can understand that as a teen boy, you don't really wanna talk about everything with your mom... does he have other male family members? Like an uncle that he is close with? - +1 y
Yea they can talk my brother is not that close my husbands brother they’re pretty close and they talk sports and stuff but he lives on the other side of the country so it’s not like he can just be there he’s right with his batting coach like baseball they’ve worked together for 5 years already but it’s different it’s not family… Do you think it’s hard for him dealing with me having a boyfriend? I talked to him before we started dating and my son said he was totally fine with me dating. So I started seeing this new guy..
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No if he said he is okay with it. You can definitely ask again but overall I don't think he has a problem with it.
I personally belive, after that little that I know now, that he is probably just a little reserved and late bloomer, he probably is not interested in getting a girlfriend right now and that's okay - +1 y
Ok that’s fine he’s not interested in dating or girlfriends that’s absolutely ok. The other thing him watching me and my boyfriend kiss. It’s happened twice once we were in the kitchen and my son walked in and just kinda watched. This time we just had dinner after wards my son had left the dinning area and I went over and sat in my boyfriends lap and we were kissing for a bit, I like kissing lol, like nothing crazy but ya know with tongue lol like good kisses I don’t know how long he was standing there but he Def saw us kissing for a bit 🤷♀️ is that strange or worrisome to you?
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No it doesn't sound strange to me, it was probably just awkward for him
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Oh ok I see lol yea I was just sitting on my BFs lap and we were kissing when we Al by ourselves lol I wasn’t trying to make it awkward just wanted some kisses
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Haha it's okay, I know that I, as a kid, always felt really awkward when I saw my mom kiss my stepfather haha but I don't see it as big deal from my perspective right now
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Ok great thank you!! I definitely don’t want to make my son feel awkward but I’m also going to keep kissing my boyfriend lol. I love kissing and I don’t think anything is wrong with kissing. You said it made you feel awkward when your mom kissed your stepfather, I can get that but you didn’t watch them kiss did you? Like you didn’t get into the room where they were having a little make out session did you? That’s what I thought was weird I don’t care that he saw us kissing I’m just like why did he come into the room and watch us?
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Not that I remember but maybe he wanted to ask something and didn't know how to approach you guys properly?
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Yea maybe 😊 thanks girl
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Sure, you're very welcome 🙏🏼 Hope the best for you two or well three
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Thank you soo much 🤗
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Yea it just happened again we were just making out on the couch and I caught him peeking in again. You sure this is nothing to worry about right?
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Have you met girls? They ain't all they're cracked up to be. They're insanely stressful to be around, they cost a lot of money, and they will invariably try to destroy your reputation the instant anything goes sideways.
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I’ve been one for 40 years
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No lol I see your point
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For what it's worth, it took my mom 57 years on this Earth; 2 marriages, 3 concurrent affairs, a 10-year long bitter divorce, and finally being on the recieving end of how her current fiancee's babymama treats him before she realized that men put up with a lot of bullshit from women.
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@FilmGuy93 okay we get it these days some people can be shitty but can't assume all girls or women are gonna do the same. I'm very loyal to my boyfriend and treat him with much respect, he's also 20 and I'm 24 but I don't ever wanna hurt him or waste his time putting him through anything hurtful because that happened to me when I was young around immature guys. There definitely is genuine caring women still.
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@FIilmguy93 I get you. It’s sad tho when some people have to ruin it for those that wanna love someone.. I mean sad to break a guys heart so bad or girls heart😞
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@Mmmariaxc enough women are exactly like that that men as a species overwhelmingly feel the same way
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Sounds like you're hanging around the wrong girls!
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I think you're hangin' out with the wrong girls. I happen to think girls are wonderful. I even married one! And I have three wonderful grown daughters, and they're all married, too! That's the way of the world. You just need to find the right girl for you and it sounds like you've been looking in all the wrong places, as the old country song goes!
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@Keyboardkat I may be looking in the wrong places, but it's safe to say that dating has changed considerably from the time you found yourself on the prowl. Over half of single adults are totally uninterested in any kind of dating at all.
Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yFirst a couple of questions, has any close family member or friend gone through a divorce? While your son has been able to watch how men are treated during a divorce? If he has, then he's probably decided that dating etc is not for him at the moment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef98cxtn0ughttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvgJMjsUvHshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0V-0NocMrw
He is by no means alone, there are a significant number of lads his age who have decided to focus on their education/career path, and avoid any relationship entanglements, #METOO certainly will not have helped given the way men were attacked in the court of public opinion.
I'd suggest you watch these three video's they might give you some insight into his thinking, though you may not like the way the host puts thing across;10 Reply
+1 yMy best bet is that he either might have fear of intimacy or lacks social skills (social anxiety). Bringing him to a therapist is a good idea but a lengthy process.. it might take a while...
Do you have any other family members that can replace the dad role? Uncle, or your brothers? What about your new boyfriend? Does he have any connection to him?
And the case that he likes watching you both making out... and I see that you are a passionate kisser, no any big deal... that might be an indicator of his sexual phantasy... everyone has it.
Your house, your family, your own rules, you decide what you like and what crosses the line. So therefore he should be fine
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+1 yGirls that age are more or less, crazy. Mixed feelings and all. He may have understood that and decided to not do anything regarding girls at the moment.
He may have plans for girls when he is in university or something. Girls around 21, 22. That range.
He stopping, just at checking girls out, means his priorites are sorted in his head, proof of self control, or just not interested in relationships altogether. But still early to say that.
There is a difference between friendship and relationship. You cannot confuse him interacting/friends with any girl, therefore.
My approach was a bit practical one. As other users said, he may just be a shy kid.
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I asked a girl out in senior high and got rejected and the whole class, including non teaching staff along with the teaching staff knew about it. And I was not the one to spread the news. She did.
Most girls are like that. Better to not deal with them at that time. - +1 y
Not all of course. But it is just quite difficult to filter the amazing girls separate.
It may just not be his priority. Or he's never had one "click". That's okay. My boy didn't show much interest in girls until he was 19. The other one not until he was 16. They're all different. Just love him and accept him and give him safe spaces to be him.
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+1 yI don't know the stats on how many guys have dated by that age, but I think he's not abnormal. It's very difficult for a young guy to ask girls out. I think it only comes naturally to a small percentage of guys, and the rest have to work at it. Some guys are never able to do it.
I wouldn't be too concerned about it. He's probably more normal than you think. He might be shy, but that's normal too when it comes to girls.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yFor a majority of teen boys yes women tend to be the main focus. But there are teens who would rather put their self first as far as school, maybe college especially if he’s a good athlete. It’s possible he’s seen how girls treat his friends, maybe a family member who was divorced. Maybe he feels as though they’re too much drama. I know I did when I was his age. Maybe it would just complicate his life too much. No offense but teen girls can be full of drama at that age. It’s like having a second full-time job if you have a full-time job already. The emotions, call me, text me, why didn’t you text me, etc, etc. I think you should be happy he’s not crazy over girls right now. Let him figure out his life w out adding more complications to it.
00 ReplyI did not express any emotion about the opposite sex to my parents because they actively discouraged me from viewing the opposite sex since around 7 years old. If I had a friend named Carl, I would tell my parents about my friend Carla. I don't know if you had a more open relationship with your son, but maybe he just does not want to talk about that with his mom. Or maybe he does not find the girls at his school attractive like that.
00 Reply1.6K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. High school girls are worse more often than not than college ones. 🤧 When ya find out what they are packing enough bodies to fill a graveyard ya kinda quit feeling bad your children or niece or nephews ain't chasing them. 🤣 Plus high school is more like an elaborate cover-up for drama school.
00 Reply3.1K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. I didn't get my first girlfriend until I was a senior in high school. She was a friend before that, but she is the one who, much to my surprise, took it to the next level by unexpectedly French kissing me.
Look, your boy doesn't play for the other team (not that there's anything wrong with that); he just needs to have a harmonic convergence of circumstances for him. It will happen. Do not worry.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yChristian straight camp is best for you. I was a Councillor in one, it's where I met my wife. Various conversion treatments are used to help you walk on the straight and narrow path. Hours of prayer, counciling, religious study, canning, spanking, paddling, aversion therapy, Psychoanalysis, Hypnosis water boarding and marraige therapy.
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Opinion Owner+1 y@msc545 how so?
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It doesn't work but it does drive a substantial number of people to suicide. It is illegal in my state for that reason. Also - ", caning, spanking, paddling, aversion therapy, unlicensed Psychoanalysis, and Hypnosis water boarding and unlicensed marriage therapy" are all illegal, abusive, or both.
Opinion Owner+1 y@msc545 worked for my wife. It was hard watching her go through the electro shock therapy and waterboarding but she's all the better for it. The spanking and paddling was tough too but its probably where we both realised we loved each other.
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We are on the frontlinex of the lgbtq epidemic, sure some do relapse and we help back on the path. We've restored many recovering ex lgbtq people to the path of God, find partners and live happy family lives.
Opinion Owner+1 y@msc545 for saving souls
I was like that. Besides physical attraction girls at that age girls weren't appealing. I found that however you want to word it they weren't mature. Mature might not be the right word but I didn't find enough things in common at that age to justify a relationship. Also at that age I didn't see a point in starting a relationship I knew wasn't going to last. Teen girls tend to be an emotional mess and are too influenced by peers to be thereselves.
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+1 yHe could just be shy, or not quite sure yet how to approach a woman. A lot of high school seniors haven't dated yet. Fairly normal.
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+1 yProbably not a fan of the western girls especially the party girls or not his type of women. If you want to help him, if your father and brothers are around or his fathers male family members are around then they need to help him if he is interested in girls, it's better for him to talk to a male about this because a male can help him with because they understand male nature much better than you ever will
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+1 yCause they are terrible to be around. He'll start getting interested into hooking up and friends with benefits in the future. But most of us these days grow up to not have high hopes of finding a girl for a LTR.
00 ReplyProbably just shy or nervous and doesn't know how to approach girls or feels insecure.
It's normal and many HS teens do not date. It's more so in college they find their confidence.00 Reply3.1K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. Maybe he is really shy. I was afraid to ask a girl out. Even when I knew they liked me I was still afraid. Maybe he needs a little nudge.
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😢 I’m a widow so his dad isn’t around how do you give him a little nudge?
Well he probably ain't me sooo maybe he's just biding his time. (Queen asexual rose here) trying to see the which one he REALLY wants.
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+1 yMy cousin Vaughn he turned 16 last year, but he doesn't like girls either so who knows this year 2023 he will turn age 17 almost ready to graduate.
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+1 yNothing to worry about. He's a late bloomer. It happens (I got my first girlfriend at 22, for example). He just hasn't found anyone that interests him above the things he's doing right now he will, in time.
00 Reply1K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. What is his role model? I mean if he looks at you and your boyfriend as a model to start with then he will never find that in girls his age will he?
00 Reply2.2K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. He just might be smart enough to have realized what a total waste of time dating is for men. OR - perhaps he is attracted to men and just has not told you as yet.
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The former could be the western girls he is not into. There are lots of dudes moving to eastern countries because they had enough and/or want to explore other countries
2.2K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. I was girl crazy a that age but also super shy and awkward.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yWow, smart guy. You should be more concerned whether he's discovered his life purpose...
10 Reply1.1K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. Maybe he just has a low self esteem and is really shy.
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+1 yMy dad didn't have his first girlfriend, until he was in college too. He's married 35+
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+1 yMaybe he is shy or just doesn’t know how to approach them
00 Reply The fact that he doesn't have a girlfriend doesn't mean he doesn't want to have one.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yProbably kinda shy or just not outgoing enough, and a lot of guys are just not into having to be the initiators
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+1 yWell for starters, does he have guy friends he gets with regularly?
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yHow many of them are really guys? And those who aren't say they are guys or non-binary?
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+1 yBecause maybe he isn’t ready yet.
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Ok and why might that be
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I have absolutely no idea. Ask him
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Not to be rude. I don’t understand why so many folks on here think people are mind readers.
Some are, or he might be gay
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yhe's gay maybe
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