well that’s where you went wrong calling him a 5 lol so in his defense he is going to call you a 5 because you broke his ego, so he is going to shove it night back into your face. so always remember what you can dish out to someone you better be prepared to handle what is returned to you. If a girl I really liked told me I was a 5 I would be like well fuck you then you are a 5 as well , don’t sit here and act like you are better then me , that is disrespectful as fuck , You girls don’t realize most the shit that comes out of your mouth is damaging your relationship with your man , All
men have ego’s , when his ego gets broken by a girl that he really likes , he will start to lose respect and trust for her , when she compares him to other men, he will lose respect for her , Girls don’t realize the damage they can do to a man that is giving his heart to her , A guy will call her beautiful every day if she shows the same respect in return , whether you don’t feel beautiful within yourself your partner will see past that if you respect him the same , when a partner starts belittling , or criticizing and comparing their partner to someone else they won’t be beautiful to their eyes anymore , they will start to lose respect and value for Them , why it’s important to compliment each other and make each other feel valued and wanted , if you want to stay in a relationship with that person If you don’t want to stay in a relationship with them , then keep doing what you are doing because before you know it they will be drawn to someone else or banging someone else that makes them feel valued and wanted that compliments them. Love only grows when you make each other your top priority over everyone else , if you can’t remove selfishness for your partner and you can’t stop criticizing them and belittling them and can’t compliment them , don’t think for a second that they won’t do that to you , You are digging your own grave when you expect someone to do for you that you can’t do for them , you are best to move over so they can see the person standing right behind you waiting to give them what they deserve. Most people don’t realize the shot that comes out of their mouths is damaging the relationship they choose to be in cuz most people are selfish and only think of themselves , so until you can learn to remove selfishness for someone you shouldn’t be in a relationship, you will be just wasting your time and continuing on a path of failed relationships cuz you only think of yourself
Yes a lot of men hold in a lot and have a hard time really expressing themselves , When we really like a girl we tend to get weak for her because we are drawn to how she makes us feel and how beautiful she looks to our eyes , we are very visual humans when it comes to girls’ but the second we give our heart to a girl that we really like she is irreplaceable to us as long as she is looking up to us and treating us with love, respect , honesty , loyality and she has an amazing heart and , she doesn’t with hold intimacy and affection from us , we will treat her like Gold and will not trade her in for another girl , There are tons of beautiful girls but we become blind to those girls when we find a girl that values and respects us a treats us like her King. To keep her by our side we tend to become dominate and protective of her , and we don’t want any other Guy trying to come in and sweep her off of her feet , Most girl’s are turned off by an insecure man , so he hides his insecurities as much as possible to keep her by his side, When a man starts showing insecurities it’s mainly because she is acting different towards him and saying things to him to make him question if she still loves him or not , If she flirts with others guys or speaks highly of another guy or starts comparing him and not making him a priority those are things that will raise a red flag to a guy that gave his heart to you. Most guys know what other guys are thinking , so when he sounds like he is insecure or sounds like he is trying to control you , he is really trying to let you know that you aren’t respecting him anymore and he starts losing trust in you c, He feels that you are going to betray him and be drawn to another guy. Why Guys and Girl’s can’t really be friends , they can be acquaintances but close friends is sketchy , usually one likes the other more than just a friend, and we are easily blind to that , This goes for guys and girls , A guy friend isn’t going to invest a lot of time
Into a girl that he just wants to be friends with , he is thinking more , same goes for a girl investing her time into a guy that she claims she just wants to be friends. why it’s best to limit friendships with the opposite sex when you are in a relationship out of respect for
Your relationship, Most people don’t grasp this concept and then they wonder why they end up single or cheated on
I didn't call him a five lol
Did you read the question? I told him he was a 8
Well in my defense it's not the first time he had insulted my appearance. He said he doesn't like brown eye, which I have, and I'm overweight. He's even made fun of my weight in front of his friends. We've been together for 2 years
Yeah I tried leaving once he guilt tripped me just to continue treating me like shit. I'm leaving him I'm over it
Yeah he's wrong. If he's admitting he's settling for me. Doesn't eveyone men and women want to feel special to thier significant other?
Yes , so the question to ask yourself what does your partner honestly do for you? Think about the things you do for him and think about the things he does for you Also think of the things you ask him to do for you? Does he massage you , Does he go get things for you , Does he text you and tell you he misses you and thinking of you Does he tell you I love you , Does he tell you you are beautiful? Does he want to spend time with you Does he choose you over his friends , does he include you or exclude you from things does he make decisions without thinking of you first , do you do the same for him? Does he make you a priority do you make him your priority etc. Think of all those things and think do you do all those things for him as well, It’s not about who’s right or wrong and I am not asking you to keep a score card but sometimes in a relationship we have to reevaluate our own selves in that relationship , cuz it’s always easier
To point out someone else’s flaws over pointing out flaws within ourselves , relationships are about give and take , you can’t constantly give to someone without receiving , and you can’t constantly receive without giving , you got to remember it can’t always be about you , The number 1 thing that kill’s relationships is selfishness , we all have selfishness in us when you can’t remove your own selfishness for your partner they aren’t going to be able to remove it for you , why it’s important to wear your partner’s shoes before making decisions, just because we might think something is ok and just assume oh my partner trusts me , it might not be ok to your partner , if it’s not ok for your partner then you are best to talk to them and find out why they don’t like you doing something or why they are upset about it , instead of just thinking of yourself and assuming they are just being an asshole and controlling or insecure , Everyone has insecurities whether they say they do or not so instead of just assuming your partner doesn’t
Trust you ask yourself what is causing them not to trust me? And most the time it has nothing to do with trust it comes down to respect for each other , you can’t set boundaries in a relationship if you aren’t going to follow the same boundaries that you agreed upon or set. Boundaries have to be set for the both of you , There is always going to be something that you don’t like your partner doing , so when you ask them to stop doing that thing and they stop that means you have to stop as well , Most people don’t grasp this concept and that’s where fire enters into a relationship because it is a double standard , If it’s not ok for me to do then it isn’t ok for you to do , I dated
Girls that would set boundaries with me and out of respect for our relationship I would see where
They were coming from and stop cuz I loved and cared about her and don’t want anything jeopardizing our relationship, things would get better and then all of a sudden she would start doing the things that she told me not to do , I would get defensive and tell her straight out that she is wrong and she would turn around and say that I am being insecure, I would just laugh and say it has nothing to do with insecurities it comes down to respect , you had me stop those things but now all of a sudden it’s ok for you? When someone starts demanding space from you , let them go and tell them you will not be waiting for them , someone that needs space in a relationship is up to no good , so it’s best to just tell them don’t let the door hit ya in the ass on the way out. Don’t ever fall for that shit what so ever , when someone truly loves you they don’t need space from you
When someone loves you they don’t choose friends over you as well, your partner should be your best friend , you didn’t get committed to be single you got committed to experience and share things together to be a team , I hate when I hear couples say oh my partner trusts me they don’t care if I go away with my friends on vacations and they don’t care if I go out to the bars and clubs with my friends , the truth is yes they don’t care about you period , cuz they are up to no good as well , they want you leaving because it gives them time to to be selfish as well , if your partner is going on trips without you don’t think for a second that they are going to be good to you , I have had sex with married women that told me they weren’t married to find out her husband was on a business trip for work leaving this girl all by herself at home so she could be bad , I use to work as a bouncer at a bar and the shit I experienced there blew my mind on how fucked up Girls night out was , husbands and boyfriends would come in the bar looking for their wives and we would find her all over another guy. I am not saying everyone is a cheater but a majority of people are , so if your partner doesn’t make you a priority vice versa you are best to reconsider that relationship period
OK... If that's YOU in the photo, I would dump him immediately because he either
a) lacks an understanding of what good-looking woman is and
b) has absolutely no class or sense of tact
c) apparently thinks, deep down inside, that you're not good enough for him
I'll rate you --- you're an "8" on your worst day!! Dump him.
Thank you. I agree. I need to dump him
Yes, and then you need to date me! LOL That man is crazy!
I hate when people rate others on a numerical scale. I find it dehumanizing. I thought that was a thing only on this site and the Internet, it's sad to see that it happens in real life, but no way I'd stay with someone that doesn't find me attractive.
Being average looking isn’t a bad thing and I know most people are average, but I think every woman wants to feel like her partner finds her more attractive than average/desirable. If he was half decent he'd know the implications of those words and the impact they'd likely have on your self esteem. Why would he want to hurt the one he supposedly loves like this. What is the motive?
It's time to reevaluate.
A person telling you you are not beautiful enough is another way of saying he is too good for you. Which means you should accept whatever decision he takes. Either he is moving on to other women, and instead of accepting guilt, is transferring it to you.
Else, he is trying to intimidate and insult. He could be trying to break your confidence, or diminish your level of control or power in the relationship. Show the person a mirror.
Leaving is recommended.
I think I should leave also
She was the one who mentioned he was an 8 first. He didn't bring it up.
@VikingWarLord the girl is herself an 8 . My God this is cruelty if a beautiful woman like her is being treated like trash.
I would be pretty upset tbh. But I think rating on a scale isn't worth much. I wouldn't be surprised if guys didn't find me an 8 or 9, but were more attracted to my personality when they got to know me. It's actually something I've noticed in my own attraction to men. I may not be initially very attracted but the attraction grew overtime. I wonder if porn/media has upped the standards to an unrealistic level?
Porn has def affected him.
Sorry to hear that, you're very pretty by the way.
U have pretty eyes, unusual colour, great luscious hair and lips, amazing skin. What's his problem? 😅
Thank you 😊
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I hate the whole rating thing. in my opinion, if he didn’t rate you highly in his own thoughts at least then why would he be with you. I do agree with other comments though, personally I think you’ve got a beautiful face, so my rating to you would be an 8-9 That doesn’t mean someone else looking at the same picture would rate the same as me. I can only rate on what I’m seeing which is a face, of course a whole body picture could change that rating. Personally, nobody should be going round rating their own partner, never ends well
Thank you. I shouldn't have asked. I did start it I was just being playful didn't except it to turn into an insulting me
Damn. That's stupid of him to say that. Particularly if that's you in the picture.
That said, the whole rating thing is absurd. I don't, won't, and haven't used it. It helps nothing, adds nothing.
But, in answer to your question: yes you should be upset but only if you gain from it. If it causes you to take action to change it. Either it bothers you enough to break up with him (he's not going to change his mind and even if he did you'd always doubt) or you let it go and move on.
If someone asked me I would give them an honest answer.
MOST people are average because that is how math works, which means that most people are between a 4 to 6. Yet most people can't handle that and think they should all be rated 9s and 10s. That just means that they need to go back to 4th grade and learn their standards again.
I see no picture so I can't rate you or give my opinion for that.
It is best to not ask a partner though for most people. And I think it is a combination of physical attractiveness and personality compatibility that makes someone desirable, not just one or the other.
This is me in the picture. Anyway, sure most people are average but your man, because he is love with you should make you feel good about yourself. As well as makes you more attractive. He could have said something else, your silly your beautiful.
I agree about the personality thing. Most people love me, I'm very likable. I'm a very sweet loving partner so it was pretty messed up to not hype me up.
You told him he was an 8 and are upset when he topped your insult? 😂
You're just as bad as him, if not worse (because you started it, and because you won't take responsibility) Of course he said 5, it has to be lower than the number your gave him, simply because you said anything other than 10.
1-10 is a meaningless scale, one person's 10 is another's 1 and vice versa, so when you tell him 8 instead of 10, you are admitting you don't like him.
If your SO tells you they don't like you, you don't compliment them, you insult them, (which is what he did), and then you breakup.
Lol this makes no sense. Saying he's a 8 isn't an insult it wasn't intended to be. Then him telling me he basically thinks he's better looking then me was an insult. A real man wouldn't want to make his woman insecure. He could have just ditch the num and told me I was beautiful.
Actually what I said made perfect sense.
Saying he's an 8 IS an insult, if you can't see that, thats your problem.
A real man wouldn't put up with your double standards.
I wouldn’t. So what? Even if you are 5 or 2 or even 10 it is not the end of the world. Just be confident and happy that you are good looking no matter what you look like. Enjoy your life and never let small things bother you even if it was coming from your boyfriend or friends or random people.
It just rude, I don't think I'm a 5. A real man wouldn't say things to make his girlfriend insecure and give a complex.
You are supposed to view your partner as the most beautiful in the world
I agree. And when you fall in love they def should be that in your eyes. My relationship sucks it hasn't been our only issue. He's even mentioned my weight before also.
Well I wish you best of luck and that things work out for both of you. If this small matter bothers you a lot be honest about it and tell him how you feel and it would be nice of he would compliment you instead.
Def, being complimened would help my self esteem.
Was this based purely on looks? I mean cause if I had to give you a rating I’d say a 7, maybe an 8 but that’s based purely on looks w out knowing your personality. I kind of wonder if part of that has to do w him obviously knowing you so it was a combination of personality as well as looks. Which yes is still a shitty rating. But do you want honesty the way women say they do or is this one of those things that men need to lie about even if it isn’t true?
Yes just on looks
I know it's just my own perseverance but I'm a very sweet, generous, loving person. Very affection and kind. I don't like making people I care about upset. Also if he really thought I was a 5 why would he be with me? As well as if he loved who I was and knows me why make me feel insecure? I am attractive it just nice to be told that by your partner I'm sure guys feel similar
Well I will say you are gorgeous. I think most men would love to date you on purely looks. I know I would. When he said he’d give you a 5 was it a serious comment? Meaning did he smirk or laugh a little or was did he have a straight face when he said it?
I'm glad he was honest puts things in perspective. He was dead serious
Thank you also
I’m sorry to hear that. Makes me wonder like yourself what he’s doing w you than? Have you tried talking to him about it?
Some men do this kinda thing to women as a systematic way of flirting, believe it or not. It's their way of bringing down a woman's self-esteem to make her (in their minds) more susceptible to being manipulated or controlled or not rejecting them. Because they think, if you don't realise your value, you are more likely to stay with them or appreciate them. It's a gross and insecure way to act and it's commonly called "negging."
I would break up with him.
I hate that people rate on a random number system. But also, that seems very low based on your picture.
Has he ever said anything else to make you feel undervalued? Like not just in terms of looks?
Yes. He told me I'm fat. He doesn't like brown eyes, which I have. He doesn't help financially he lives in my house. Then he'll complain that it's not organized or clean enough. 🙄 I'm over this. Just Tryon to figure out how to get away.
It sounds like he doesn’t value you. Was it always this way?
Yeah. Pretty much I was just dumb and stayed. I met him during covid it was difficult to date then settled
You? A "5"?
It's obvious that you (soon-to-be-ex-) boyfriend failed mathematics.
You are a very lovely young woman!
Thank you 😊 I agree I need to go where I'm appreciated and adored
Yeah I’d probably dump a guy that rated me that low because it just seems telling of how much he really is into you or not. Even if he doesn’t think you are a 10, and even if you were an 8 to him , he should always say you are a 10. Something’s are better left to be untrue
You do know that some men constantly criticize the looks of women they feel are out of their league, too confident or won't let them have access to sex?
Right?
As for my looks, I posted my photo here at GaG. I got an average of 4. I know that being an old man is different than being a young woman. But you can't depend upon folks who assessment of you is dependent upon their desire to control you.
“Hey Babe, I’ve got low expectations, you’re beautiful just the way you are, and ain’t no man going to mess with while I’m out with the guys chasing other skirt. I love you and your Averageness 😘
Lol that's the messed up thing too, other guys find me more attractive. I don't know if he is just trying to make more insecure. 🤔
If he loved me so much he could have lied to me at least. He know I'm insecure
Depends if it was a serious comment or not.
Also you're like a 12/10 so like, if you suddenly find yourself single, feel free to hit me up. ;) :* Lmao.
Awe thank you. 😊 he was dead ass serious also fkn dick.
Dump him, find someone actually into you. *cough cough me cough cough* Lmao.
Haha I am it's just difficult. Been together for 2 years had a lot of issues. I'm pretty over his bs
Well there's no better time than now.
Def that's facts
Let me know how it goes! Would love to treat you to a date. ;) Lmao.
I don’t like categorizing people like this. On this scale a 10 is literally the most beautiful person in the world, and a 1 is so ugly as to induce me to vomit? It’s weird to categorize people like this and I wouldn’t like it if I was a 3 a 5 or a 10
Ouch lol... What kind of a guy tells his girl she's a 5 right to her face... Especially after she rates him an 8... How did life bring you there lol... I know a lot of people would dump on the spot if that happened...
I should dump him. Why can't poeple show true colors so we don't have to waste our time and fall for assholes
I agree
boys can be dicks, so yeah, been told that before, and even less than 5. sad part is, i believe them
You shouldn't believe them they are disks and full. of shit
Not sure why he would put a number to it…and even if he did, that he assigned a middle of the road number. Not good on his part. Are you sure he wasn’t trying to be funny or sarcastic?
If that’s your pic posted…. your much higher than a 5.
That is definitely upsetting. 5 being average you would hope he finds you better than average. I'd there s chance he may be negging you, making you think you are average so that your more likely to stay with him?
I think so. He hasn't had the best relationship track record I see why now
Best of luck to you!
Yes, If you were my girlfriend, I would tell you that you were a 10/10 every single day along with breakfast and dinner made! I would even massage your back as you fell asleep. I would have random spontaneous dinners. I would treat you like a queen
That sounds way better then my current relationship
Yeah he doesn’t know what he has because you are beautiful
Thank you 😊
Does he normally bring you down or insult you? If not, does he joke a lot? Maybe he felt he was just playing around with you. If it bothers you enough to bring it up on an anonymous site, you need to talk to him about it. But approach it calmly and logically. Tell him it hurt your feelings and watch his reaction before going about breaking up with him.
I have talk to him it's not the first time he's insulted me. He's mentioned my weight before also, and I have brown eyes he doesn't like them. He thinks blue eyes are prettier.
Talking anonymous site is the best actually no bias opinion.
Sometimes people are a little too quick to tell people to break up with their partners without obviously knowing the situation. But if he has a habit of always tearing you down and doesn’t care that it’s hurting you I would definitely start planning your exit. Sooner than later if you have your own place. Everyone deserves someone who treats them with mutual respect.
Well... he was just being honest. So you're punishing him for his honesty!
But seriously. It says more about you than it does him. You sprung a question like that, but were not happy with the honest answer.
As the old man says: Never ask questions where you will be upset with the answer.
Damnit would be extremely upset because that means he didn't love u nor accept u just the way u r and ur a 10
Thank you. And yeah he's a dick I need to move on
I agree with @snowedin
He doesn't appreciate you. I'd end it. I highly doubt this is his only insensitivity toward you.
Beautiful pic, by the way.
I NEVER RATE ON FACE ALONE!
The body is very very important on a bytch. Does she have big tiits? Flat stomach? Decent Azz? etc? But I have found that chics with smaller t! ts tend to have more average features. I'd rate your face a 6 out of 10, but I'd have to see the rest of you to know if I'd reduce or add more to that number. Send me a DM with a pic and I'll be BRUTALLY FUUUCKIN HONEST what you are.
He’d have to consider me at least a 7. I’d dump him because he's calling you average. Even if you are, he's supposed to think otherwise. Its not just about personality. Looks matter and his response was rude
Lmao is he your boyfriend or husband?
Was he being sarcastic when he said it or serious?
Boyfriend he was serious he's mentioned shit like my weight to before
He doesn't respect you. Why are you still with him?
I dk anymore. I need to leave
You should leave him. Find a man that loves you and respects you.
Why would he be stupid enough to say that? You're box is on the left, don't let it hit you on the way out the door homie.
is that you in the pic? definitely not a 5
but yeah i'd be upset
Yes and thank you.
Yes, I’d be upset. That sounds like a very low score to me.
The good thing is that it's so superficial, subjective, and dumb.
I could interpret it that he's gay or something lol.
@AmeerX it's not even clearly defined among those who use the 1-10 scale. If everyone was perfectly heavenly beautiful in a society... everyone will be a 5 because that's the "average" when everyone is equal? Or will they all be 10 because they're beautiful? But then why do people say that "5" is the "average" ?
The guy is honest with you and he's still sticking with you... What's your problem with honest and commitment? What are you seeking someone that lies to your face constantly and sleeps around?
Lol I except someone to adore me and tell me I'm fkn beautiful. Not just the bare fkn minimum of not sleeping around. I want a. uy who is fkn obsessed with me.
Damn there a lot of assholes on this site. You could kept your rude ass comment to yourself prick
Maybe he just wants you to think he's the best you can get.
Honey, your boyfriend needs glasses. You are no where near a 5. I'd give you an 8 1/2 or 9. You are very beautiful. I hope he was just joking with you to see your reaction.
He sounds like a jerk to me.. sorry for sounding mean..
She asked the question... my mom always said don't ask questions you really don't want the answers to... was he supposed to lie and say she was a 10 if he really thought she was a 5 🤷🏿♀️
Also even if he said I was a 2 I know I'm a 10 so it really wouldn't matter what he thought
I would never put much stock in someone rating you, one person's 5 out of 10 is another persons 8 out of 10. Not to mention, its pretty shallow to rate someone's appearance.
Definitely a 8/10 . On my dating app I put down. 5 out of 10 look and 5 out of 10 personality so basically 10/10 🤣
he might just being mean to you for a laugh, a joke or something
I would tell him, ‘Do you think I would be your girlfriend if I was 10/10 attractive?’
I did he said no he doesn't date 10 of women he thinks are tens. Most likely he's insecure doesn't think they would stay. I need some more secure
He is a malicious liar trying to break your self-confidence because he's a such loser in life that the only way he can feel any sort of significance is by trying to make you feel bad. Do you want to continue to be manipulated?
So I suppose it's the opinion owner who removed 4 of my replies? Or did you the asker?
I didn't
Well, he’s dating a 5 so that’s on him.
I’m an 84 in my own books.
Right if that's how feels why is he with me.
If he ONLY considers you a five. I would have to see what he considers a ten!
You might have butt hurt him when you didn't call him a ten. So, he might have been just getting even with you.
The photo isn't 5 It is also an 8 lol. And yes I did be upset
I wouldn’t like it for my woman to tell me that I’m not that
Yes, if I was a woman. Even as a guy I would want her to give me extra point or two.
Stingy arse
No one should be less than 7 out of 10
Bedda Matri!! Yes !! I’d be 10 out of 10 mad
I'll never understand thee number system. How is a 4 any better than a 3
This is why I HATE rating people. It's demeaning
Yeah I agree but I wasn't expecting him to rate me so low. It would have been great if he was like, oh your gorgeous and didn't even give a num
Then why did you ask
This is why I don't ever want a girlfriend either. They always trap you
OK lol are you celibate then
Yeah
I mean it wasn't trapping him it was a fkd up thing to say anyone can be decent not just in romantic relationships
If you didn't want him to answer or whatever, then why did you FREAKING ASK HIM THE QUESTION
IT WAS A TRAP
AGAIN, HOW IS A 4 ANY BETTER THAN A 3
I HATE THE RATING SYSTEM
I was just being playful watching the movie I didn't expect him to say anything.
DO NOT DO IT AGAIN
I won't, I'm pretty dome wirh dudes myself. Probably go lesbian
Please do
Do women a favor and stay single jeez your a jerk.
Gladly
Well I think most people are average. I know I am. But one has to be socially inept to tell the SO, "You're a 5."
Def an underlying issue with him. How do you feel your relationship with him is overall?
Shitty lol I need to leave
I'm sweet and amazing he's shitty
He's been kind of an ass the whole relationship. I am really a very kind loving person. He has told me I'm fat before several times. He doesn't have boundaries with his exes or other female friends. He tried cheating on me with a friend but she rejected him. He's told me he's not attached to me as I was to him. So if I should be the one with resentment but I'm just over getting treated like shit
You are the prettiest 5 I have ever seen, I think he is very wrong, ditch him
it means in the middle
beauty is vain anyway
Find a guy that finds you 8 or 9 and move on to teach your boyfriend a lesson lol
He's a fucking moron you're a 9 and no that's not to be ass kissing either you really are a 9
That jackass needs to be smacked around especially upside his thick skull. If he can't see you're a 9 then he needs glasses. And that's not to be an ass kisser either
Is that you in the picture?
Yes it is
Then he is clearly trying to destroy your self esteem in order to get you to go along with something he wants; but doesn't think that you would normally agree to. You are definitely an 8.5/10.
Thank you.
You're welcome
You are a full 10 to me
He is a dick
Time to DUMP that LOSER! DTMFer! NEXT!
No of course not. I don't care.
You’re 50 percent good 50 percent bad
definitely a 9
you are 5 out of 5. He's a 1 in dumbassness.
Your first mistake was watching Hall Pass.
He's wrong, though. You're a 7.
He deserves to be slapped for calling you a 5.
Actually, shoot, you might even be an 8!
On second thought, I think I need to promote you to Level 9. Lol. You just get hotter and hotter ever time I look at your picture.
Now that’s a dead man walking 😅
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