Does the Manosphere turn you off from men?

[Anonymous]

DOES THE MANOSPHERE OR REDPILL MOVEMENT, MAKE YOU AFRAID OF MEN?

I’m seriously starting to fear men, because of the #redpill or #manosphere movement. It seriously is making me fear the future in dating. 😢😢😢

It’s showing me a horrifying side of men I never knew off. Specially here in America. I’m not even from here, I’m from Peru 🇵🇪.

I live with my father, and he never said the stuff those men are saying. The stuff those men are saying is not true and it’s honestly turning me off from all men or from dating all together. 😢😢😢

[NamerOfStars]

Take a moment and think about it- no, not "feel", think; we'll get to feeling later: imagine living in a society where nearly every disparity between the sexes favors the opposite sex, yet being told from birth that you are unfairly advantaged, and even an evil oppressor, simply from being born what you. You'd likely grow up accepting the self-hatred that had been beaten in to you, and feeling self-abasing and more than a little depressed. Then, one day, you learn that what you've always been told has very little to do with reality, and that your demographic is actually the more disadvantaged. How would you feel? You'd probably be very angry, both at having been lied to all your life, and at the disadvantages unfairly foisted upon you by society.

So you decide that some things should be changed, and laws and traditions altered, so that it can be more fair for everyone- that's reasonable, right? And you learn that there are many organizations, and many, MANY people, who are still so deeply entrenched in traditionalist thinking that not only will they refuse to go along with your ideas, or even discuss them, they'll harshly penalize you for thinking, or even believing, them. Some will even advocate for your social and economic ostracization for not following the zeitgeist's ideological line.

You realize that it's not just a matter of inertia; of old ideas clung to out of habit, but a living and thriving bigotry. You would, naturally, get very angry. And anger, unable to act, decays into resentment, which over time calcifies into hatred.

A subculture, left isolated (either by its own choice, or widespread social rejection, or both) is inevitably going to become self-reinforcing, if not necessarily a full-on echo chamber. And being seen from the outside, what's going to be emphasized (especially in the era of clickbait) is the most extreme elements. Most guys out there just want a fairer shake; the radicals saying bio-reductionist crap like "women are incapable of moral reasoning" or "your woman will leave you as soon as she finds a hotter guy with more money" are vastly outnumbered by those who want to see family court reform (it's apocalyptically bad here in the US), changes in dating culture, equality in reproductive, genital integrity, and antislavery rights, and respect for men and their problems in general.

I mean, would Feminists scare you off women? Their lunatic fringe unambiguously argues for committing genocide against men.

[Mewzinc]

"imagine living in a society where nearly every disparity between the sexes favors the opposite sex" Basically describing how life was for women up to a certain point in time in history. Women have been second class citizens for how many years? Now that we aren't, at least in America, men are butthurt? You have no idea. You know in China they used to kill the first born if it was female. A world made by men to make things easier for men and you are surprised that women don't want that?

[NamerOfStars]

@Mewzinc Second-class citizens? The people who have bodily integrity, reproductive, and antislavery rights then men the world over can only DREAM of? YOU are the privileged ones. And that is why China killed innocent girls- because living in a society created and operated for women's benefits means that a daughter is a net drain on resources, while a son is a net asset. Gynocentrism backfires when things get tough; that doesn't change what it IS.

[NamerOfStars]

@Mewzinc More and more men are waking up to the fact that the deck's seriously stacked against them, and refusing to play any more. They're not fighting back, just dropping out, and yet you're getting all butthurt because not only can you not win a fair fight, you can't even get by on your own without an army of men suffering through your bullshit. And you're surprised men don't want that?

[whirled_up_girl]

@NamerOfStars "The people who have bodily integrity, reproductive, and antislavery rights than men the world over can only DREAM of? YOU are the privileged ones." So does that include Afghanistan or Iran, or are you just talking about American Women or Western Women as the red pillers like to say? Explain to me what bodily integrity, reproductive rights, and anti-slavery rights women have that men don't have.

I also can't believe you're going to justify the murder of innocent little girls in China because they would have been "a drain on resources", You do realize that because of China's barbaric one-child policy China has a surplus of 30 million more men than women. Do you know what a surplus of men leads to in societies? Well, according to this article and others, increasing conflict and violence www.ips-journal.eu/.../
Also to quote this article directly "It may affect their long-term economic prospect. In many countries without a developed welfare state, family structures (especially having children) are the only reliable institutions to provide for retirement." This is because it's mainly women who are family caregivers in many societies, not just to children but the aging parents. Tell me the violence and fewer family caregiving options for aging members of society aren't going to be a drain on resources. I could cite numerous scholarly articles that require access that would back up my arguments. Though I wouldn't think I need to because I honestly thought you were an intelligent person, and if I didn't know better I would think you've been hacked.

[DaveJord]

So again I must stress everything in moderation is healthy. But once that scale is ripped in the wrong direction or too far one way and not the other, or when you precieve someone is putting their thumb on scale... chaos ensues. Red Pill Fanatics Rage on!

I was born in the late 1970's. I was raise through the 80s and 90s... with its a man world, men's are nothing but chauvinistic pigs.

I mean just look at the definition of

chau·vin·is·tic
displaying excessive or prejudiced support for one's own cause or group, in particular showing male prejudice against women.

I mean women are chauvinistic as well... but even by text book definition it's 9nly used in particular case of male prejudice against women.

fem·i·nist
an advocate of women's rights on the basis of the equality of the sexes; a person who supports feminism.

See being a feminist according to dictionary sounds pretty good... supporter of equality. Not someone who puts women about men.

masculinist
advocating for men’s rights, in opposition to feminism, and supporting traditional gender

Again one would believe a masculinist would basically be defined as same as a feminist, an advocate for men's rights 8n name of equality. But look how they define a masculinist- someone who opposes a feminist.

The negative congitionations associate with men, and way we talk about men, and masculine virtues, compared to feminine virtues are completely different.

So as a man all i would ask of women, is stop denying the facts around how men ate discussed and treated across society. I mean you can still promote women, that's all fine and good. But don't deny that men are expected tolerate the condemnation that's constantly being sent at them.

Don't deny that women do not abuse, manipulate and take advantage of men. We all know they do, so maybe if you would accept this fact and pull off of the constant condemnation of men... we could all achieve some scene of equality.

But as long as feminist want turn a blind eye to woes and trauma women cause to men, while in the same breath attacking men for what they do to women... well Red Pills mat be extreme at times, bit you got to understand where they are coming from.

Be a feminist, that's fine and great. But be respectful of men through your approach... just like men should be respectful of yours. Respecting does not equal agreeing. It means respecting the disagreement without all the outrage on condemnation.

[whirled_up_girl]

@DaveJord I think you're comment is very fair and balanced and I appreciate that. What I don't understand is some of us women do get it. I know I'm not the only woman that gets it. I do understand that men have been abused, manipulated and taken advantage of by women. What I don't understand from the red pill movement is thinking its alright to assume to the worst in all women or to even denigrate women as a whole gender because of this. Just as I don't think it's right for feminists and probably more misandrists to assume the worst in all men and denigrate men as a whole gender because of the ones that are bad. Both sides of this debate tend to irritate me though I agree that both sides have some valid points but when the validity stops (for me anyway) is when one side thinks their victimhood is somehow worse than the other side and is completely caused by the other side.
The back and forth doesn't seem to get anyone anywhere, just leads to anger and resentment it seems. At the end of the day though as much as we may agree on some things and disagree on others we are still going to come to it from different perspectives, perspective of men versus perspective of women.

Anyway, to be clear I'm not really arguing with you, just wondering how in the world we are getting to this point in our society. Right now it just seems to be on the internet but even at work I see things spilling into real life at times.

[DaveJord]

@whirled_up_girl

I got it, no worries. I think the problem is that most people are not Red Pills or Feminists. But the mass majority of us aren't, but think they need to be. Because we always want to think we need to pick a side.

So yeah... the abuse and manipulation goes both ways almost equally honestly. But I do think most men are conditioned to expect and accept it. Women tend to forget what it's about sometimes. So normal guys break off and move on. The Red Pill rage against it.

I mean I get it. I have seen bothered sides 9f the argument... lived it.

[Anonymous]

https://youtu.be/7n9IOH0NvyY?feature=shared

I know some of the men living in their 1900s fake world mentality will hate this video and want to fight me on it. For that reason I'm going to block my replies to avoid losing braincells reading that shit.

But for the women and men out there that don't want to settle and want to love their life happy and be happy with a man/woman who can get over their privilege, watch that Ted talk. Men that care and aren't looking to keep women down, exist. Don't settle ladies.

[mandyfire98]

One thing you don't have to worry about is these incel and manosphere people that hate women, approaching you in the real world. You will never come into contact with them. They are normally always only on the internet. They don't approach women in public at all. In public you won't ever know they even existed.

[dynamicyandere]

So true. Most of these women-hating men just stay at home behind their computers. Chronically online, forming their opinions about the world from media they consume online.

[mandyfire98]

Same as incels and manosphere guys. It starts on the internet. They watch andrew Tate and people like him on YouTube and think that's how it works but it doesn't. Not in the real world.

[dynamicyandere]

The horrible side of men?


That’s saying, “The horrible side of women.”


Both men and women aren’t inherently evil.


There are bad apples on both sides.


The ‘Manosphere’ isn’t representative of all men—but rather a certain social circle that is prominent online.


The same thing can be said of women who spread the hatred of men online.


Neither groups are representative of all. They just both have a prominent online presence because of all the content they’re creating and posting online.


The most ‘red pill’ men basically, in a nutshell, don’t trust women.


That, already, is a generalization that women can’t be trusted.


You can only imagine how they will conduct their lives if that is the ‘truth’ they live by.


To me, not trusting ALL women is not very far from not trusting ALL [insert race].


It’s the same mentality that fuels racism, and I don’t support it.


What I can agree on, is that both men and women are capable of horrible things.


What I don’t agree on is that just because some men and women are horrible, it doesn’t mean all men and women are horrible.


People should be assessed as individuals.


These negative generalizations that people make of entire genders, races, ethnicities, and cultures is the very thing that tears the world apart.

[dynamicyandere]

That’s like saying*

[whirled_up_girl]

Great comment, I completely agree!

[dynamicyandere]

Thanks! 😊

[LazerBean]

I've never heard of manosphere, but no those things do not impact my opinion of men. Men who preach those things make up a minority of men who typically have had some sort of trauma in their life (or at least something that they have reacted to as if it were trauma) that is egging on their mental illness. I don't think they should be taken seriously any more than the local meth head.

[Billlewis]

I wonder if it could be arranged for you to be a kind of informal spokesperson on the subject of this frustrated, disenfranchised segment of society, because every single comment you've made has been accurate to an astonishing degree.

[LazerBean]

Lol you sure do know how to flatter a person

[Billlewis]

It's not flattery if the comment is, essentially, for all intents and purposes, factual.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@LazerBean. Your hidden talent is comedy? 😂

[LazerBean]

Every once in a while 😂

[Billlewis]

If you were a drill sergeant in the Army and I was in your battalion, you could make me run through a brick wall at the snap of your fingers... lol

[LazerBean]

I'll keep that in mind

[Billlewis]

I believe that this unsavory phenomenon will be relegated to the dust bin of history, sooner than later, simply because the entire basis for their position is absurd. You know the old saying, 'You can't fight city hall'? Well you can't fight Mother Nature, either. Like virtually every other species in the animal kingdom, women choose their mates based on natural selection, and if you don't get selected, you still have several options --

You can lower your sights and find a less attractive woman to mate with, you can pay for sex or you can do what I do, which is to embrace your role as a submissive beta male, and focus your efforts on pleasing the superior female, and possibly her alpha male boyfriend, if the situation allows it.

[ManOnFire]

You're not afraid of men, you're just hoping that saying that will make people try to view men as monsters and threats even more. If you are becoming afraid of men, then you're a weak mouse, sorry to say.

The manosphere is not even that relevant to the mainstream world. Radio hosts, news media, and even Jimmy Kimmel aren't talking/joking about Andrew Tate, FreshAndFit, or the others. And partly because they know they'll get backlash if they do.

You should be more worried about white-feminists trying to police the words we say at work and in school, making it okay for people to get upset about stupid stuff, and making it okay for trans people to use your restroom. And since you are from Peru, you should be more worried about your own government's instability than what a bunch of manosphere dudes are complaining about.

[love_conquers_lust]

Yes, it exists in the woman-sphere as well. That ideology has always made me mad. It’s about intentionally lowering a person’s self esteem to lower their standards. It’s controlling. It’s one thing if someone changes their standards on their own, it’s another when people insult you into doing so. Both sexes can do it. Some women have perfected it.

Some bull shit like “I know you’ve been watching me from across the room, YOU should like what you see”. That kind of crap. A balanced, non-asshole would say “Hello.”

You can use these people as tools if you catch them in the act. They HATE being controlled themselves. Be prepared for physical confrontation in that event. But it isn’t necessary. A simple no thank you suffices. If they’re tilted, they’ll mutter some insult or some pussy passive aggressive comment instead of politely walking away.

[inhua]

if your intention is to take advantage of a man by using him for his finances/resources, divorce raping him, falsely accusing him of sexual assault/domestic abuse, forcing him to pay child support for a kid that's not his after cheating on him then yeah you should be afraid of the Manosphere

if not, then you have nothing to worry about

[Starrrboy]

People aren't that ridiculous in real life... They're just some wack jobs getting carried away in their online bubble and " influencers " getting rich off their stupid ass.. and my God that bitch Pearl Davis has the most punchable I've ever seen since Pete Davidson lol

[DextroShade]

The manosphere is a reaction to the horrific consequences of feminism and should not dissuade a traditional woman from marriage. If you are a modern feminist woman you should tremble with terror at your impending lonely death as the manosphere tells men to avoid women like that because they are poison.

[Asker]

You see, that type of comment is what scares me.

I don’t partake in hookup culture.
But I’m not gonna judge those who do practice it. Some women have a higher sex drive and some don’t. Some women can’t be with a man too long, and some can.
Absolutely everyone is different.
Both men and women.

And for guys like you and that community, to impose a belief or religion on people, is absurd.

[EmyyWolf]

Don’t listen to guys like him. These are undesirable porn addicts.
Why the fuck You think they’re so angry 😂

They’re the same shit as the raging insane feminists of 2015 😂😂🖕.

Specially this son of a bitch @DextroShade
He definitely has some Accordion 🪗 dick going. Or he has crayon-dick 🖍️.
He has some PENCIL ✏️ dick action going.

Why the hell you think they’re so insanely pissed 😂😂. Those who are sexually frustrated. Or are experiencing sexual-deprivation. Are obviously gone be the most demon possessed individuals alive. 😂😂

Feminists need some dick
And these manosphere losers need pussy. BADDDDDD 😂😂😂😂😂

[EmyyWolf]

@DextroShade

In Brazil 🇧🇷 women fuck around and walk around naked. And the men there marry them. The men there are less likely to cheat and don’t care if their women are out dancing. 🖕
It’s the low testosterone cowards in this nation who are all fucked Up 🖕

[DextroShade]

@EmyyWolf oh no! Some stupid thot on the internet thinks I have a small dick! Whatever will I do? Considering your tirade here you are the one who is triggered and angry here, not me. Also, I don't give a fuck about some third-world cucks.

[EmyyWolf]

Aren’t you the Cuck? 🫵 isn’t the one who watches porn every single day the Cuck? 😂😂😂 AKA “every sorry imbecile walking this earth who balls and a dick”

[EmyyWolf]

@DextroShade
The men in Brazil are actually useful. Each compliment eachother.
The men play the drums 🪘 and the women dance.



WHY? Because those people actually have culture, and 6 inches plus between their legs. 😂 I’m from Ecuadorian and Peruvian 🇵🇪 the men in my nation have 6inches + over there.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@EmyyWolf: Interesting point that men who watch porn are cucks.

In reality they are since that's what a cuck does to watch a dude screw a woman..

That porn watching is pure ish and destroys lives.

[DextroShade]

@EmyyWolf more man-hating bullshit, women like you are why the manosphere exists.

[EmyyWolf]

How is it man-hate. It’s facts. 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️ don’t you like facts? Aren’t you the ones that say we need to talk about facts all day every day?

Men have been cucks throughout history. EVEN IN ARABIA. When women do belly-dance.
The men play the drums or they sing. And the women dance.



Every song you hear is about a man singing to a woman. Every single song is about love or romance. Why? Because the male desires the female.

[DextroShade]

@EmyyWolf do you even know what the word "cuck" means? It refers to men who allow their women to get fucked by other dudes. Are you seriously telling me that these machismo Latin American dudes are okay with their women getting fucked by other guys? Because you sound really stupid.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

The manopshere and redpill community is made up of mostly angry, bitter and divorcee men who join together to express their collective grievances of their failed and miserable lives and project their hate and anger unto women for their failures.

They are mostly online and these men aren't the majority of men out in the real world dating and getting married.

So don't worry about it.

[Grond21]

They are basically feminazis, but in reverse. Making all the same mistakes they criticize in feminists

Trent Horn just put out an awesome video breaking down the mistakes they make

[TheSpaceGnome]

Wtf is a "manosphere"? Why do people keep making up weird shit to add to dating?

Its like there are 2 kinds of single people, those who think about what they want, and look for that and ignore society, and those who turn dating into some kind of societal drama bullshit.

[Spongebobssocks]

Redpill and feminism are equally as toxic. Its mostly media/Hollywood life not real life. So dont worry:)

[bootyloveR88]

Are you familiar with the word "Dickmitized" when you meet a guy like myself that would make certain your toes curl and your eyes look in 2 different directions and finally squirter for the first time ever the fear of men will be no more... you gorgeous queen you

[provokeesmokee]

Doesn't make me fear men, does turn me off of men, but ultimately it's funny triggering manosphere neckbeards. They're easy to trigger.

Just remind them Daddy Tate got fucking owned by Greta Thundberg. 🤣

[Anonymous]

Those men are ego-filled alpha dudes that are undesirable, they compensate by being loud and outrageous. Not every man is like that, same as not all are incels, there are normal man around and I believe it's a majority of man. America is it's own story, women and men there are very out of their mind, with out of line feminism and red pilled people, trans epidemic and all. Not a cause for concern as to needing to fear men.

[LiamJHayden]

Judging all men for that stuff would be like guys judging all women for what idiots like Clementine Ford say.

[EmyyWolf]

Wow the USA is in serious trouble

[TipsyFr]

There are bad apples on both sides of the tree. Don’t be naive but don’t be bitter there are also great people out there. Don’t make your fear of bad apples stop you from tasting that succulent apple pie 😊

[EmyyWolf]

I agree. I’m about to leave the USA. The men here are completely delusional and trash.

[RoοstеrBrеаst]

Lol.. we know @emyyyy asked this.

[EmyyWolf]

@RoοstеrBrеаst
Wtf

[Nikki1989]

I ignore all that internet nonsense. The real world is not like that at all.

[4ngelic]

no since i'm pretty sure the vast majority of guys dont think that way. its only some weirdos online who are like that