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I have been. Most people outside of the manosphere, especially women, don't understand it.
While there are always some similarities, not everybody in the manosphere believes the same things, at all. In fact some hate the other groups in the manosphere. It would take too long to fully explain, but people outside the manosphere mistakenly lump all of the groups together.
Are there bitter misogynists and incels in the manosphere? Yes. There are also men who've been happily married for decades who don't hate women at all.
As you say it's a collection of websites, blogs, youtube channels etc. And it's basically men speaking with other men without a filter and without any female influence.
PUAs: these are guys who talk about and/or give advice on how to get laid. That's all they're interested in.
Red-pillers: guys who are more interested in using behavioural/evolutionary psychology to understand inter-sexual dynamics, not only when it comes to getting laid but also to understand relationships and marriage.
MRAs: men's rights activists, very often former feminists actually such as Warren Farrell, who used to serve on the NYC board of the National Organisation for Women. Egalitarians who think that feminism has gone too far the other way.
MGTOW: guys who avoid marriage and relationships with women (or claim to at least, often it's the other way around) because they think that it's too risky in today's culture.
Incels: guys who talk on forums about not getting laid and how terrible women are.
When I was younger I was into PUA. I was just a shy kid trying to learn how to get better with women, and I did. Then I got into the red-pill. I was never really into the rest although I've read some of their stuff.
A lot of people call PUAs/redpill misogynistic but that's just because our views aren't feminist. We don't believe in blank slate equalism for example, we're "sexist" because we think (know) that there are biological differences between men and women.
Thats not what the "manosphere" is. "hostility to women", what do you mean by that? I mean are women apart of the "femosphere' for pushing hostility to men (which they do quite frequently (literally every feminist))?
Their is nothing wrong with masculinity so acting as if that is a problem is not just ignorant, its also really sexist (not that it matters since no one takes sexism against men seriously, especially not women).
As for strong opposition to feminism, yes I do have that as I am not rabidly sexist nor self loathing. I do not support discrimination, sexism, or hurting people based upon their gender and any sane person would oppose these things and by extension feminism.
Don't know about misogyny. I think its rather disingenuous to claim this as happening when we all know that it is over used and generally attributed to men who are pointing to actual issues and actual behaviors of women (something women are apparently allowed to do (hell they are allowed to make up things about men but a man can never criticise a woman (which is again, rather sexist)).
What about you? Do you support sexism against men in the form of feminism? Do you push exaggerated misandry? Do you think their is something wrong with masculinity?
No and I have never heard of such a term.
I want equality between genders and feel no hatred towards either gender, I have friends of both genders and the ones I rely on for deep conversations about embarrassing things are girls whereas the ones I go to for rougher play fights and dark humour is to the guys.
I am a feminist but the word gets really hated because of radical feminists who have changed the ideology and now think feminism means all men are evil when real feminism means wanting the equality and equal opportunities between genders.
I want Equality of genders, I don't know why people seem to consider this such a massive thing to ask, hopefully one day we will get there, I can only hope.
I also funnily enough get a lot of concerned faces and comments when I say I am a Feminist because of the Radical ones who have now only caused a terrible view of the name, it is actually hard to find videos of the feminists who want equality of genders because the ones who mainly get videos are haters of men.
I've moved on from it, but still retain my views on the biological differences and social dynamics between men and women. Same with the alt-right. Men get sucked into these online subcultures because of the fascinating insight into human biodiversity and human nature that is heavily suppressed by the Western libtard hegemony. The suppression of these "dark" truths and theories, and the ostracism of anyone who espouses them, leads to men heavily immersing themselves into these movements since they feel alienated from society via their involvement with them, and also because of a feeling of "having to catch up" on a subject matter they've been shielded from all their life. Were it not for the suppression of these realities, men wouldn't be so engrossed by it. It would not have a totalizing effect on their mind and personal life.
That said, as engrossing as it is, eventually you get the big picture and then move on to other things to explore and learn about. So you can say these right-wing subcultures are essentially a phase that men eventually move on from once these suppressed truths lose their novelty.
I was raised by a strong woman.
I (finally) married a quality woman.
I'm raising two strong and independent thinker women. I don't know about these websites but bashing "the other side" is contrived and manipulative mindset that American's fall for repeatedly. I'll admit that I do regarding politics at times because people choose to be ignorant but regarding sexuality? Pointless. Everyone is born worthy of love and respect. Taking a competitive mindset instead of a cooperative one is foolish and detrimental.
Focusing on the negative of either side shows neither hope nor love, just bitterness and hate... and that leads to the dark side...😉.
Lmao. I’ll pass.
Reminds me of 8th grade English class once when our class clown had this big argument with our dork of a teacher that the empty air space in a sealed bag of chips or something is called “the snackosphere.” And an internet search tells me that this is an actual thing, so good on this kid for knowing that in ‘92, pre-internet, when all we had was Encyclopedia Britannica lmao.
People are all unique regardless of their gender. Trying to put all women or all men in the same boat has no rational basis. That's why all of these movements lead to nowhere and dissiminate more hate and unrest within society.
It also reminds me of people who say things such as "humans are stupid" or "humans destroyed the planet" or "I hate people".. same fallacy there.
These groups need to understand that moral values is what sets people apart. There are good people and bad people, good women and bad women, good men and bad men.
I voted no, and I'm a conservative with right-leaning political ideologies.
No, I'm an advocate of treating everyone the same. But of course, women tend to view that positively when it benefits them, and negatively if it doesn't. You can see that in action right here on this site. A majority of women think that they should be able to abuse men with no retaliation (because *just as defined in the manosphere* of inherent physical differences between the sexes); I think any woman who feels fit enough to throw down should be treated like any man. A majority of women think that the man should pay for dates or he's a loser, where I think a women who expects this is equally a loser. But I also think that women's opinions and accomplishments should be given the same respect as any man's
No. I have no interest in wasting time with men who have nothing better to do than whine about how oppressed they are because of women. I have no interest in listening to men call women sluts. It's all sour grapes.
Women are people. I don't like all of them. All men and women are individuals. Some are cool and some are ass holes.
But thank goodness for sweet, feminine, heterosexual women.
Until you mentioned it I’d never heard of it. I wouldn’t be part of something like that either as Women should have their rights too, they can do the same jobs as men do and many are nurses or careers so will save your life and look after you. Women deserve their rights and men shouldn’t try to take them away from them.
No, I'm not part of the manosphere. I've read their material and watched their videos. I find PUAs and MGTOWs to be the most comical. Now I do find them retarded in many ways, but what they are not, is associated with the alt-right or far right. In fact many of them are apolitical. MGTOWs and Incels react to me in much the same way as American women react when I say I primarily only date East Asian women, which is they snear and/or get angry with me. Contrast this with the alt-right where I've had a number of alt-righters wanted me murdered just for having sex with an East Asian woman.
If you're curious about the 'Manosphere' see if you can find a copy of the film 'The Red Pill' by Cassie Jay on one of the tor**** sites and look up the raw footage files on Youtube by searching her name.
As for being associated politically with the far-right and alt-right the guys would laugh in your face if you suggested that to them, as usual its a slander/smear job, I won't try to influence you one way or the other, watch The Red Pill' and the raw footage and come to your own decision.
Your answer is in your own question, fi you ask feminists why are they feminist also have you ever asked about misandary to any feminists lol feminists are thd females who even attack other females who are not associated with there cause lol 😂.
Well I am part of neither misogyny nor misandary but b4 one points finger at others one must see the mirror first also directly blaming and laughing is not a solution study on both ends then keep some reasonable points not just mock lol or else it isn't worth..
Tf is manosphere?
I don't believe in such bs as talking shit online ain't gonna solve anything, it's just people can feel good about it by talking to others of their kind, making fun and offending the types they hate, but that's all abstract unless the same behaviour has physical consequences irl. Humans have beacame so sensative and diverse, so nothing really is surprising anymore.
I don't consider myself part of the so called "manosphere", but I guess I meet part of the description you gave here. I am not misogynystic, nor am I hostile toward women in general. I support masculinity and am against the attack feminism has been waging against it, and I am certainly strongly opposed to what feminism has been doing in general in recent years. I also support a lot of the causes championed by MRAs, and I discuss those topics on the internet, as I'm doing here and now. With that said, I'll let you decide whether I'm part of the "manosphere".
Keep on laughing.
All the way to boxed wine, cats and nights alone.
Women, as a collective, have made themselves too legally and financially dangerous to be around.
The only way that men can defend themselves against unjust laws and courts, as well as false allegations, is to walk away and keep on walking.
No dating.
No relationships.
No marriage.
Self evidently, no sex.
Do not even speak to women.
I have seen 'good morning' used as the basis of a workplace sexual harassment complaint.
Every day, more of the bicycles decide that they no longer want the fish.
@MysteriousDarkness
Gloria Steinem (queen among feminazis, lesbian before being lesbian was easy, pioneer in promoting homosexuality among children) once said " a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle."
So what you wrote I guess is saying that "men don't need women either."
I mean, I am far right. And not a fascist. I only disagree with some things such as 4th wave feminism because it advocated for dumbfuck radlib shit. It also promotes degeneracy, unhealthy bodies, unhealthy relationships, superiority complexes, and so on. But no, I don’t hate women. I literally have a girlfriend. I’m just against a lotta shit I see societally unhealthy.
Some people in groups like MGTOW are definitely horrible people who are exactly as you described but they don't make up the majority.
Their core message isn't that women are evil, it is that they claim that our legislation and society let's women get away with any such behaviors should they happen to have them, deeming those who want women held just as accountableas they do men are labeled as "hostile towards women, having strong opposition to feminism, and exaggerated misogyny and being alt-right" or whatever. They also want to help men who are sick of relationships learn not to swear their entire existence to pleasing women and learn to improve themselves for their own benefit.
To say that the entire movement is all of the things you describe is just as fallacious as saying that every feminist is a radical whose goal is to decimate the entire male population.
I think Rollo Tomassi, who isn't MGTOW, said it best: women, at most, should only ever be a compliment to a man's life, never the focus. I think men who are bitter have fallen into the pit-trap of focusing on women. This leads to their lives being devoid of substance and purpose, and an overall feeling of emptiness. And that emptiness also, in turn, hurts their prospects with women. So it's ultimately self-defeating: focusing your life on women ironically hurts your chances with them.
Exactly, it is understandable how men frustrated with relationships will wind up there but it hardly changes that core message.
I think so. I view myself as a feminist but on the website here i explore concepts of masculinity and question norms of feminism in the dating realm. People on GAG have called me a woman hater for my myTakes and posts. But I really dont see it that way. In real life I love women, get along well with women, and my best friends and closest relationships are women.
If men can't handle the fact that without uplifting the feminist movement, there's always going to be a war between the two, they're just nonces with no common sense. There's no reason to be a dick to an entire gender, I can't even think of a reason why you'd be anti-feminist... Just serious control freaks with a penchant for buggery
lol, except the feminist groups actively fight against men's rights issues and funding for men's issues.
@Abtraction You seem to forget that if more men were actually helping them then they wouldn't have a reason to hate us and fight against our issues. We have to put effort into this too, you know
you missed my point. Feminist fight against causes for men. Suicide programs, fixing family laws, child support reform, men's shelters, paternity laws. They actively fight against men.
@Abtraction Bruv, I disproved your point. I SAID, If men were to actually uplift feminism, women wouldn't have a reason to dislike us and do those things. The reason they fight against men's causes is because of people who are dicks about it and aren't mature enough to handle a conflict logically
what women's issue? I don't see anything that needs attention. Women are actually privileged in today's society.
@Abtraction Why don't ya say that into my mouth Lovey
lol, any time. I can see how you really want to discuss thing...
@Abtraction Wow I knew it XD
Anti feminazism isn't misogyny. I don't understand how certain people could be so pathetically stupid so as not to understand this. If you wish to support the self-victimization of spoiled attention whores, weakening women globally rather than striving to empower them - that's your choice, just don't present yourself as an advocate of women rights.
Like what Feminist do collectively to men and push talking points on Misandry? No!! I have the balls to say what I want and agree with other men on the injustices we all face by women and the cucks and simps who back feminism to their own demise; I don't have to be part of the Manosphere to fight for my own interests as a man or form an independent thought.
The manosphere, and everything associated with it is some of the most ridiculous self-pity bullshit out there, in my opinion.
Nope not part of it... And yet this is feminism in a nut shell
That very term makes me cringe to the core. However I can totally see the reason for the antagonism towards modern feminism and sympathize with any man that's being told that masculinity itself is somehow toxic. I also find the definition by the Wikipedia to be extremely uneducated and biased. Anything that's not 'left' enough is called far-right or alt-right these days.
I'm actually sort of both anti that and feminism. Both are geared towards biased out-group hostility and in-group loyalty. I like to think as men and women as part of the same group where we recognise our differences but reach mutual compromise through rationality.
No. I'm fully capable of thinking and speaking for myself, thank you.
Can we all agree that both far sides are retarded, toxic shitshows that need to be eradicated sooner rather than later?
I'm no fan of modern feminism, but I'm no fan of the so-called manosphere either. They identify some valid problems, but fail to offer any sensible solutions
I made my selection for two reasons. First I had never heard of a manosphere before I saw your serve
Second I don't need a bunch of weak soy boys to stroke my ego
I am not a part of the manosphere because i see them as delusional as the feminists. If you see manosphere as crazy, it should be easily applied to feminism too. Just forget you have a pussy a listen to the movements. Both crazy as each other.
I don’t like or trust women period. I haven’t seen a respectable women in years. What I have seen are prostitution, cheating, lying, hatred, attitude, etc.
Downvote away don’t make it any less true
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