I always thought of it like this. It comes down to baselines. We need to see something outside the baseline norm for us to pick it up.
Women I don’t know: Yeah, I can tell. If I walk into a bar and some woman turns around on her stool, smiles at me, and very dramatically crosses her leg, makes lingering eye-contact, and twirls her hair. She caught my eye and I’m going to approach her.
Women I do know: I have no idea. We are always fearful of misinterpreting signs from women and since men are chastised, judged, and labeled for hitting on coworkers, peers, and friends we are generally very cautious about it. I walk in and you smile, cross tour legs, make eye-contact, and twirl your hair and I just think to myself “Man, so-and-so is really pretty. I sure wish I could find a girl like her.” Not fully aware I have, and that she may be sending signals. Asking us to coffee, lunch, flirting, and all that won’t really get through to me (or most of us.) You have to hit that nail hard on the head. Straight up call us out. “So, are you going to ask me out on a date, or what?” or “I think we should get to know each other better outside work/school/friend circle/etc.”. Even then - especially if the chick is really hot, we may have a “wait, what?” moment, so be ready to double tap it with a second, unambiguous green light. Once we know we’re not going to offend you and land in front of HR or the Administration Building we will absolutely make a move and act on the now understood attraction, if we’re interested.
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It very much depends on how socially experienced the guy is.
There's a HUGE, ENORMOUS difference between the experience that the hot, desirable guys have (the top 10% or so), and the other 90% of guys have. The top 10% guys have girls throwing themselves at him all day long, anytime he leaves the house. They have plenty of experience and rarely have trouble seeing the signs if a woman is interested - but part of that is that women are far more clear and aggressive in showing their interest to these guys.
For the other 90% of guys, the top 10% of that 90% get SOME interest from women, but still only a small fraction of the true top 10% guys. Still, many of these guys, from their limited experience, are able to figure out when a girl is interested in them. Not all of them, but probably most of them. The other 80% guys, who are largely invisible to women unless they are performing some kind of service for her, are quite unlikely to be able to tell, because they have such little experience with girls showing them interest. There will be a few exceptions who are better at picking up the social queues, but the majority are probably clueless unless they are told directly - and many will still have trouble believing it's true.
Some guys catch on easy. Some you gotta throw yourself at them for them to know you’re into them! 🤣 some also pretend they didn’t hear you or understand the words No I am not interested in you.
Some are clueless. My eyes usually gave me away when I had crushes but when your in the ugly crowd you don't get much attention.
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I rarely see the cues anyone talks about. Touching her lips, collarbone, or neck, adding something to her outfit in in front of me, twirling and playing with her hair, seeming nervous, smiling around me, leg/toes pointed toward me, pupils dilating (how the heck am I supposed to see that?) I pretty much never see any of those signs. and if I do, "she was just being nice" or she was flirting to try to manipulate me, or mess with me... or I got stuck in the crossfire of my better looking friend that she was TRYING to flirt with - so even when I THINK there's interest, there isn't. I will assume there isn't... being no signs. The women might smile, but it's not because of me, they're just smiley people. Kindness, even genuine kindness (rare in these parts) means very little.
If they're obvious, and she's flirting with a friend, then I can usually tell, because I will usually be kicked out of whatever conversation they want to have with the guy. I will usually bow out with some grace, and come back later when he's alone. But frankly, most of them will know, as most of them are probably used to it... so I don't really have to say much.Yes that depending who the guy is what he's all about what he believes in.
Like you say some guys are clueless.
But there are other guys like me they can feel it in the air feel it throughout their body it's called energy
Some people call it chemistry
But we are all made from energy. When you understand energy you understand add million things in life that will change your life you can touch without touching you can speak without speaking and it's just a very beautiful thingBoth because it depends on how well a guy can read female body language. There are guys like me who overlook most body language, I get when someone wants to avoid me but all the rest is hard to tell for me. But there are other guys that are better at it either because they are experienced at dating or because they either use some form of bodylanguage to communicate and are therefore good at it.
I am completely oblivious! The amount of times I have been told by friends or friends of other women when I didn't know I was being hit on is remarkable to me.
I am in a relationship, happily, and I never notice. I do however feel guilty if I've inadvertently caused any upset, because it's not my intention!
It is sort of both. A girl was very friendly to me yesterday at the cafe. Excessively friendly so yeah I think she is interested... but I'm not.
On the other hand a girl at another table might be giving obvious signals (to her) hoping I will approach but I am not picking up on her signal.
I did have a female wingman at one time and it was interesting what she noticed and mentioned to me.
Please just tell us, so many of us would glance over it and in modern society where there are too many examples of men being ruined over being friendly or flirty It's nice to have a clear sign you are ok with it beforehand.
Men are not mind readers. If she's thinking she's sending the equivalent of a landing strip in signals then he's probably lost and not understanding how to engage further. What would really help is if women could be bothered to clearly communicate what their intentions are, like hey I fancy you, then he wouldn't have to interpret matrimonial semaphore.
The only guys who say that they can "sense it" are the guys who are extremely experienced with women. Most guys can't just sense it. You gotta be very blatant about it
I'd say we know you like us even when you don't know if you like us or not... That's the problem, you're head is a mess and we don't like wasting time on you when you can't get your own shit straight.
Why play mind games? I wish I was a mind reader! Grown adults should be able to say how they feel. Some "clues" are clueless! I've been single for ages, so I probably wouldn't really know. Unless completely obvious.
Like everything else in life; it depends on the person. Generally speaking, You would be safe to assume that most guys will be completely unaware and clueless.
no they can't. guys are clueless. cause if they did have a clue and acted on it and they were rong, that's a sexual harassment lawsuit xD so we rather stay ignorant.
Ya men that know women. If it's some shy guy afraid to talk then probably not
I believe so. Certainly so several times I've noticed it.
Depends on the guy and how clear she is giving signs
In this case the “clueless” one is merely trying to protect himself. It’s far safer to file everything into the “just being friendly” category.
Yeah.. and I think most of these " clueless " guys know it, they just didn't expect it lol..
Honestly, I think some do sense it. Because, in my experience, guys I like would act cold towards me if they don’t like me back.
If that was the case, I wouldn't still be single all this time lol to current lol 😅😆 ah well.
I don't know, maybe not, I've met some blind guy, am I right @Youngbrain
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