I don't know if this is just me but I find that men never take initiative to talk to women anymore. Women also never talk to men anymore. Sometimes, they would talk if they are coworkers or classmates. But other than that, it seems like both genders avoid each other. Young women hang out with other women. Young men hang out with other young men. Guys never approach anymore.
Yeah I've noticed. It feels like the sexes are always at each other's throats and there's this competition to see which can make the other look the worst. And yeah it's mostly online, but that's just because people feel more free to speak their minds and expose their true feelings when they are hiding behind a keyboard.
I do feel like it all started with feminism being very negative toward males, but now they are retaliating and it's just this vicious cycle now. It's a serious problem in real life and I don't know what the answer is.
no. i am not referring to the losers over the internet. I am referring to normal people in real life.
the losers over the internet usually never go out in real life. they usually lack friends, can't talk to women, never socialize.
I think you're making a huge generalization there. Sure there are some losers on the internet who don't get out in real life. But I would bet a lot, or even the majority of people expressing negative views online toward the opposite sex are people you would think are normal if you met them in real life. They just don't express those sentiments in real life.
that actually haven't been my experience. I haven't met many men who hate women in real life. Even when we came close to talking about things gender related, I saw no bias or hostility
but I don't care about what woman haters think. A lotta them grew up without mothers, are social rejects, life long uglies who have never had a successful relationship with a woman, or their mothers have abused them in some type of way so they feel the need to dedicate their lives to hating on women.
It doesn't matter. I just see them as mentally ill losers.
You haven't met many men who hate women in real life? And how exactly do you know that? That's my point. You don't and you can't know. I think you'd be shocked if you got the credentials to some of those guys' social media accounts and spent some time reading what they've written under the anonymity of the internet. And the same would be true of some women.
@opinon owner
I have been on GAG for 9 years. You dont know the woman haters on GAG better than me.
I have been on GAG for 5 years, and I think I have a pretty good read on how many men and women hate each other here. The difference between you and me is that I'm more objective in what I see, whereas you are clearly seeing things through a very one-sided lens.
I dont see any women hating men on here.
Honestly and objectively speaking. Only woman haters are on here.
More like 95% woman haters, 5% man haters.
That's because it's what you want to see.
because that is actually what I see...
and you know its true as well.
if you want me to believe in it, prove it.
show me a minimum of 5 examples of man haters on here.
The onus is not on me to prove your point for you. Having said that, show me 5 examples of woman haters here and I'll show you 5 examples of man haters.
why would i have to send you 5 examples of man haters on here if you ALREADY AGREED man haters exist?
see? you trying to stir up trouble... clearly you're just a troll.
Yeah, that's what I figured. Thanks for confirming you're a fraud.
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why would i have to send you 5 examples of man haters on here if you ALREADY AGREED ******woman**** haters exist?
see? you trying to stir up trouble... clearly you're just a troll.
i promise you, you will NEVER be able to come up with 5
I greed woman haters exist. I did NOT agree that there are 20 times more woman haters as there are man haters, as you falsely claimed. Either show some evidence of your bullshit claim, for fuck off.
Like I said, if you come up with 5, I'll come up with 5. Go on now, I'll wit...
you have to bring me 5 man haters because I don't believe they exist on here.
now you're gonna have to prove to me they exist in the high number that you are claiming.
[Like I said, if you come up with 5, I'll come up with 5. Go on now, I'll wit...]
I don't have to prove to you anything, you AGREED woman haters existed on here.
plus, there is no definitive way to prove the exact numbers of how many man haters versus woman haters there are. Nobody has the time to count the numbers on every link on GAG. Its not humanly possible
No, like I said the onus is not on me to prove for you that your bullshit claim is true. It's on you. If you're not going to back up you original claim, then go fuck off.
onus is on you.
and you CAN'T persuade me that many man haters exist on here.
you have no proof
haha
Those "losers" are men you would be lucky to have.
Girls, GIRLS, IF I HAVE TO STOP THIS CAR! 😂😂😂
Why is it on men to take initiative?
Hundreds of years have passed where men were expected to do certain things then feminism came along and said we don't like that (now it's closer to a buffet feminists want to pick and choose from while men still have to do all the dying and dirty work).
Eyes are opening about the nature of what is becoming clear about how women see bears/men/creeps/predators (interchangeable in todays media) and that prejudice is being acted on by steering clear. The rewards from resulting peace of mind and lack of emotional, psychological and mental drama men have had to deal with is no longer worth the risk of the consequences of a woman scorned especially online by the stalking feminists who are all to fond of trawling through a mans socials because he called her out for something in order to find a nugget they can use to abuse them online and or go out of their way to spread shit about them in their real life.
So yeah men have been shitty to women, but have women been shitty to men? Ask yourself if you think the stats that have been ignored for 3 generations about DV being about equal but men's physicality creates more obvious harm.
That is not happening in my world.
It has little to do with approaching. I just feel like both the sexes don't interact the same frequency as they used to
@Nikki1989
Oh women do approach guys but thats it.
I feel like I am bothering them or wasting there time by trying to talk to them. It’s not even that I care about being rejected. The worse feeling to me is like being a bother to her or finding out I’m talking to a girl with a boyfriend. If I know she is single it’s a lot easier to talk to her. I look at it like I wouldn’t want anyone trying to pick up my girlfriend so I’m afraid to talk to a girl if I don’t know her relationship status. Women don’t always look inviting like they want to be talked to.
She only "has a boyfriend" if she finds you unattractive.
@KrakenAttackin yep
🤣🤣
Social media inflated the average female ego too much. A lot of them confused sexual attention with having value.
This is true, being able to get laid with a text message doesn't make you wife material.
Plus all the simping from fatherless boys or old fat alcoholic creeps
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We don't approach because of a few things. One besides sex what do we really need you for. Marriage is a risky thing these days. A guy could lose his kids, car , house and dog. Plus all the money involved. You seem to not want anything to do with any man unless he's rich. Also these days any approach is seen as attempted rape. Plus if we do approach you we don't know if you even are sexually attracted to men. The hatred of men from your holy feminism that you teach your daughters has really fu*ked up modern society. Plus you could be super f*cked up person. You seem to really like men who abuse you. Abuse makes you horny and you crave being treated like crap. You have so many Goldilocks type rules , you're not worth the stress, money or effort. On top of that you don't seem to want to work anymore. You are taught you're a princess and everything should be done for you. You don't know how to do any housework and expect men to do it all or hire a housekeeper. Everything in the relationship is about you and everything is so touchy. It's like playing Jenga. You move one piece the whole thing comes down. Years of quizzes , feminism and "relationship advice" have destroyed the capability for relationships for everyone. Not to mention you take pride in being a slut these days. Everytime we think about kissing a woman all we can think about is how many guys dicks and sperm have been in your mouth. You're not worth the effort anymore. If we really want sex there's brothels and sex dates. So basically there's no point anymore unless you are a rich buffed up model. You're basically parasites. You move from one guy to the next climbing that ladder until you get what society has taught you that you deserve. I knew a girl who only dated rich guys total slut. One of them got high and beat the shit of them and repeatedly bashed her head into a concrete floor. She has permanent brain damage and is permanently fuc*Ed up for life. Even her heart was affected by it. So in closing go fuc* yourselves.
Hmmm. I wonder why. 🤔 I am sure #metoo and modern feminism didn’t have any negative impacts on young people at all. Nah never.
Of course all the leftist publications will blame everybody else BUT the number one problem (which I mentioned above). They’ll blame social media, porn, long term psychological impacts of the COVID lockdown (they will only lightly touch on that one), etc. All those factors I just listed definitely factor in. But they will never admit the number one factor.
I would really like to see a leftist journalist have a “sister Soulja” moment and have the balls to call out modern feminism. Given the new era we entering that’s possible. The possibility of someone burning their house down is less likely nowadays.
I have also seen middle aged women who were former feminists call this crap out. I am good friend with a middle aged lesbian who deeply regrets her past ideological beliefs. As more women age out of their prime good looking years I predict there will be more voicing their regrets.
Psychology today did publish an article a while ago about record high single rates among young adults. However they lean left and will never criticize modern feminist ideologies for being a culprit.
it has nothing to do with feminism, it has entirely to do with the decline in social skills. When you have apps to do everything, you no longer have a need to socialize
Feminism and ESPECIALLY #metoo modern feminism was the ORIGINAL SIN.
As a woman you have no idea what kind of unnecessary insidious and long lasting damage that paranoia had done to young men.
Most men are not “rapists” nor abusers. We make do mistakes when interacting with women. And given we are still expected to approach women there is a much higher likilihood making mistakes. We are the ones who are supposed to be bold and confident. Confidence is sexy right?
And once upon a time women used to be more forgiving of men who made mistakes. They put the mental effort into distinguishing a true creep vs. a guy who accidentally made a bad joke, glanced a bit longer then he should have gor went for a kiss at the wrong moment.
But we Oprah once famously quoted a few years ago while speaking to women about “your truth”. A no there is no your truth or my truth. There is THE truth.
Fortunately some women are waking up to what a heinous travesty #metoo became (it was a good thing for about 5 minutes). They are seeing the ramifications of what it can do. Johnny Deppe and Amber Herd was a great example. Johnny was blackballed from Hollywood for 5 years over an “allegation”. Amber kept on getting work while she was the real piece of sh*t the entire time (and she’s still getting work).
But I am not discounting your points about social media and social skills. That is very true that it’s detrimentally impact social skills among men and women (and people in general). But it’s not the number one cause. Modern feminism and all its disgusting ramifications is.
And it’s ultimately HURTING women. Record high rates of depression, psychosis and other problems among young women. I seriously do NOT believe women today are generally more happy then 50 years ago. Rather it’s the reverse.
100% spot on. I go to restaurants and see couples and families on their phones. When I take my girl out my phone is on vibrate and doesn't get picked up unless it's only a very few people and then they know to blow it up back to back so I'll know it's and emergency. I've met up with friends and family at a restaurant. All phones in a nice pule. Shy of an emergency, first one to answer their phone picks up the tab for the person to their left. We've done this many times. Very very few times has anyone had to buy another's meal
@blueonblack22
when men like you chronically lack success with women, that is when you refer to misogyny
Asker... you asked the question but don't like the answer. You are a part of the problem.
@KrakenAttackin her response above says everything we need to know about her. Quickly equating disagreement with hate. Arguing to BE right vs. figuring out WHAT is right. Throwing out labels, insults and assumptions to discredit the source because she doesn’t like what she’s hearing.
You know what asker? Let’s completely forget about the negative societal impacts on men for a second (not that you care anyway). Can you tell me with a straight face that western women are actually happier with modern feminism and lingering impacts of #metoo? There are record high depression rates and psychosis problems among young women in modern society. Think about THAT first.
@blueonblack22. All true. The crazy part is how women lead each other down the path of misery and despair. Seriously, social media has fundamentally destroyed two generations of women and counting.
@KrakenAttackin they just don’t comprehend the fact that when men fail that ultimately leads to WOMEN failing.
But seriously the focus needs to focus on how this has negatively impacted women. As unfair as it is we have to leave men out of it (we are expendable anyway) and instead hold a mirror up to these women about the self destruction they are engaging in. Keep the focus on them.
No doubt the asker falls into this category but her ego won’t let her admit it.
*focus needs to be on the impacts on women
It has EVERYTHING to do with feminism. The decline of social skills is because, if bybthe off chance the kids are raised in the same home as their biological father, he either doesn’t wear the pants/lead/raise the kids because he was fatherless or he knows he can’t legally discipline his kids or go against any of their mom’s commands because she could just take them. Or the state and the kids could get involved in most parts of even the reddest states.
How do you know we didn’t have “success”? I see my past “success” with women as a lack of self-control and acts of horniness and stupidity. Stupidity that broke my parents hearts and almost killed me, killed my 5th gen family business, caused a wake of devastation in many peoples lives all of because of feminism. I lost my kids to something that can only be described as pure evil
@Oncewildtwiceburned young boys are also being brainwashed in public education by feminism.
Again I do believe that social media, porn, dating apps all have had a significant negative impact. But notice leftists want to point exclusively at those factors will ignoring the number one problem.
@oncewildtwiceburned I’m sorry about what you went through by the way. Sounds like you have been though pure hell.
@blueonblack22. Well said.
Why ask a question if you think you know the answer and aren't interested in other perspectives?
@CannedTuna because they wanna know why they can’t find a “good man” or “the right man”
They want us, but they don’t wanna listen to us.
In the post #MeToo world and with consistent messaging from Feminism, men in general are not approaching women because it's seen as a risk. They're fearful of marriage and relationships because they can lose everything and have little legal recourse, whether that's from false accusations, reports to HR, or simply ending up paying child support. The risks are not at all the same for women, so they're going to have to pick up the responsibility to approach now, otherwise it just won't happen and our populations will collapse.
There's dating site data showing that men will accept all kinds of women in the top 60% in looks, whereas women focus mainly on the top 20% in looks and other factors like financial status, with the bulk of them selecting for just 5-10% of men. This information has spread far and wide now, so a lot of men have simply given up trying. Most of those who've chosen the MGTOW path had either terrible relationships and divorces or gave up and now choose the easier path in a state of discontentment and often denial, similar to those "don't need no man" type of Feminists. Some need to work on themselves, yes, and plenty simply aren't visible on anyone's radar no matter how much self-improvement they do.
Social media illusions about what's available and can be secured, home entertainment being so impressive these days, collapse of third spaces, changing gender roles and lack of clarity about what's desired and therefore uncertainty on what to aspire to be, along with economic decline... All of this and likely more is contributing to the downfall of relationships, with around 45% or more of women projected to be single and childless by 2030. Considering among the under 30s 34% of women are single and 63% of men are single (remember that dating site data, they are dating the same guys whether they know it or not), that's pretty bleak.
The younger millennials and Zees can blame smartphones, simps, porn, and social media like insta, onlyfans, and camwhore sites, and they’d be right. But they’re only half right, I’m in my late 30s so not only remember a time when good men were stepping away from not only marriage but women WITHOUT internet porn at their fingertips and social media hollowed out thot culture. Why, because of family and divorce court laws and related drama alone.
I experienced it myself, I lost kids. Its a daily death that never ends. I hit this one home all of the time anywhere I can, a lot of us live a cycle perpetual fatherlessness and nothing much will change until men change it. They’ll keep sending us to fight in wars for rich men with legacy families, they’ll keep screwing us in family court, they’ll keep abortion and grooming, busing in immigrants that send money to their homelands and voting for bike paths and gun regulations as native birthrates fall and labor that keeps the infrastructure and food supply working becomes worthless.
Sorry about that man. I don’t know the full details of what happened but has to be devastating.
@blueonblack22 It is
Well I hope you aren’t isolating yourself with all of this. Hope you are getting support and help somewhere.
@blueonblack22 Thanks, only God and the man going through it himself can help in a situation like this.
I’m not
@oncewildtwiceburned and God also influences people to help those who are in pain.
Be careful. I went through a horrible break up (and my ex was also brainwashed by modern feminism) about 10 years ago. Thankfully we didn’t have any kids together. But the sh*t I went through at the end gnawed on for years and drove me into a lot of self destructive habits (that I am in recovery from). I know it varies guy to guy. But isolation is very dangerous.
@blueonblack22 It is, I agree
Oh wow. You just realized there is no point in interacting with the other gender if you don't get anything out of it. Both sides developed huge problems and both sides need to work on them. Todays men are not interested in women because todays women don't have any quality that interests them and vice versa. Why talk to a girl when most of them don't want to have a serious relationship or even children. Something that most guys already want early on. I don't know anything on the side of women but from what I know is both sides are seriously lacking things.
Besides why should we care about women now, y'all are strong and independent and don't need no man. That's what you said. See you on the battlefield once the draft is for women too as you want Equality.
Fatherless epidemic preceded the simp epidemic which created the sexless incel alpha widow gender stand off
I’ve been studying this shit since I list my kids around 11 years ago
@RiseofArtemis she all but confirmed exactly what I suspected she was by the way she reacted to my post.
There is some hope though. I am noticing a small growing minority of women who are realizing just how self destructive modern feminism is for women. These women typically get what they “say“ they want only to become absolutely miserable over their bad choices later.
So when that happens these women go in one of two directions: they double down and become childless cat ladies OR they have a moment of clarity and realize their misery was self imposed. Then they start arguing against feminism.
The latter group of women are not common but they do exist and are growing in number. And we need more of them speaking up. Because no one really cares about men getting screwed over. We are expendable. No one listens to our grievances no matter how accurate, true and justified they are. It’s heinously unfair but things will only change when WOMEN realize they are harming themselves. Because when men fail then WOMEN ultimately fail.
"why is this site filled with men who hate women? i see this trash talking about women non stop"
Welcome to equality. Women have been trash talking men in the real world for many years. Today's men grew up in a world where they were told every day that they were garbage because they were born male, and that all the world's problems were their fault. Did you really think that would go on forever with no consequences? What you are referring to here is the inevitable backlash to all of that. It sucks, doesn't it? Welcome to the world women have made for all of us.
Women never trash talk men. Only men trash talk women. Just seems like worlds men just hate women. The same way men execute women in Afghanistan
no. i say this because i have real world experience.
He's saying you don't have the real world experience as a man. You only have it as a woman, so you don't see how life is fir the opposite gender. He's basically telling you what it's like, and a big reason why you are unaware of this, is because society never brings it to life. And no this is not misogyny as you claimed in one of your earlier comments who said the same thing, it's a cold hard truth that society tries to hush up or disregard.
Women have never had accountability, so when it rears its head, women are shocked and angry.
Asker... you are absolutely bat shit crazy.
Women used to give men a chance to fail. That really doesn't happen anymore. So, common sense applies. After a guy about 20 or 30 tries and getting stonewalled. Guy just takes his ball and goes home.
And if a guy answers this question, he gets harassed for doing so.
I think women have gotten so used to EQUALITY that they don't really look at it as a dance anymore. Most women want what they want from the guy they want it from and how they want it. And if they don't get it. They're done.
I can speak from personal experience that a woman is either on fire and you can do no wrong in her eyes so a guy can behave however he likes. Or she's ICE COLD and nothing he does can or will make a difference.😆
Side note* I'm not suggesting women shouldn't have equality. I'm simply saying there are unintended consequences to everything.
why is this site filled with men who hate women? i see this trash talking about women non stop
See. There you go. Someone tries to help you and you gaslight them. I don't hate women. I'm trying to answer you question. But you don't want to really hear the answer. So instead you create a scenario. "He just hates women".🤦♂️
Did you even read the first part of my answer. It's not always about you. See this is a big problem with a lot of women today. They simply think men risk NOTHING in dating g. So the EXPECT men to take all the risk.
Tell you what. Post this question again when you really are ready to hear the truth.
you're probably the millionth guy I have seen on here trying to shit on equality.
you hate equality because you simply hate women.
[They simply think men risk NOTHING in dating g. So the EXPECT men to take all the risk.]
men typically are the bolder and braver ones.
men are biologically designed to chase women. women aren't.
society is equal for all. but it doesn't mean men and women are designed the same way. men are not women. Just the same way men can't give birth or love their children as much as women
Like I say hun. Ask this question again when you're ready to hear the answer.
I can refute EVERYTHING you just said. But what'd be the point if you're not ready to listen. I clearly stated in my first post there's nothing wrong with equality.🤦♂️
The social fabric is changing hun. Nobody is saying you have to approach men. You're just going to be at a disadvantage to the women that do.
You're like a firehouse of anger spraying wildly. Figure out what you trying to say then post.
are you incapable of having a discussion?
i have every right to disagree with you. not everyone needs to agree with your spoiled ass.
not everyone needs to kiss your ass to tell you that you are always the right one? ok?
Hun I didn't come to you looking for answers. I already know these answers. I don't really care what you accept or don't. Your lack of awareness is not my problem.
Well your answers are corrupt and biased. You dont speak the truth. You only say things that makes you feel better about your shitty self
You're definitely the authority on corrupt and biased I'll give you that. You clearly hate men.😆
you hate women. its clear as day
You can't gaslight me hun. But you're free to keep trying if that tickles your pickle. I find you amusing.
Modern interpersonal communication between men and women is screwed up. We saw a couple, apparently on a date, at dinner and they were both texting and not actually talking to each other all through dinner. I’ve also noticed that guys and girls hang out in groups of the same gender mostly. It’s really screwed up.
Most likely because guys are tired of the same dramas all over again, most of our efforts really doesn't get paid back in anyway so most of us gave up.
For my case i am not a track hunter, i don't make moves unless i know my chances of getting what i want is there, also i can look anything like but creep is not one of them, nope sır i can't tarnish my image like that.
That must be a US thing cause I'm my country, everyone hangs out with everyone. Including the people who're unfamiliar with each other. Most of the people I hang out with are guys and approaching them isn't an issue either.
Though I do think that many events from the past few years has made people more reluctant to get closer as it can easily be misinterpreted or labelled as harassment.
It's because of the friendship recession. In my case, I'm not interested in spending my money and time on women.
Academic tax funded think tanks: people are apparently isolating more, distrustful of each other more, and displaying classic narcissism more, lets put a jingoistic label on it.
Therefore its a thing.
Why would men talk to women? You all chose the "Bear", call men "creepy", put men on blast when they simply say "hi", use men for "foodie calls", you have rosters, are over fucked, not wife material at all.
What do you have to offer other than worn out pootie, debt, bad attitudes, and potential legal problems.
Men just don’t want to deal w women these days. Not all but a lot. It’s not worth it in most cases. A man has to treat her like a queen but gets peanuts in return for what she brings to a potential relationship. Plus men have been told we don’t need you, men are trash, this world would be better w out men. Women wanted equality so now men aren’t doing a lot of things they used to do. Men are realizing that women aren’t the only prizes, that men are too.
Equal rights have spread but you have to admit its not. Only what you choose to be. So with it its only a matter of time when friendships are more about same sex. The most wealthy person who is a resident of the USA is South African. USA is done. Although terrorists are extreme in their actions they are correct.
This is so odd. I work w/ several college basketball players 19-24 and overtime, I see them they have at least 1 or 2 girls w/ them. I was at a game last week where two separate girls said they were dating one of the players. So I haven't witnessed this phenomenon.
That is odd onfg
Yeah I don't put in much effort any more. I suppose we are just seeing it as unrewarding. In the past it was seen as important to find a girl or find a boy but you just get divorced. So not much point.
It's subconscious programming. People be too in their heads to go up and talk to someone and fear of getting 'rejected'. Also, many people have insecurities as well, even though they are very much beautiful. My ex was gorgeous, and people would tell her all the time, but I guess the media brainwashes you leaving people insecure. Hence is why so many people use dating apps nowadays, as opposed to back in the days in the early 2000's.
People in general aren't talking anymore. You go to some little university party or Christmas party and you'll find a dozen people at the table, staring into their damn phones.
American women are disgusting, immoral, low quality people that should be avoided whenever possible.
You're clearly a hateful person from your argument with the other girl so it's best not to answer this question.
I have noticed that, yeah. It's kind of crazy to think that there is any force on planet Earth powerful enough to make horny young men to want to avoid women.
That force is here now in the historically unprecedented forms of internet whoring, dating apps, plane tickets, coupled with air conditioning, welfare, affirmative action hires, smartphones, uber, child support, misandrist family and divorce court, and a sue happy western culture
Nobody wants to do that tedious shit anymore. I'm not about to "approach" women because other people want me to 🙄
yeah. you wonder why if women continuously frame men approaching women in any way as "creepy" or "rapey" and making wild accusations about that.
Yes, loneliness among young people is becoming a bigger and bigger problem
Hi how are you oh wait a minute you said young men damn well still had to try
I've only tried talking to one girl, and the worst possible outcome occurred. This a girl who showed all signs pointing to her being more than interested in me.
No I find people in their 20s and 30s I see of attractive looks, are still talking to one another ♂️ ♀️
Nothing's changed there from my eyeballs
Probably because of social media, and let's face it, a man who initiates a conversation with a woman may be accused of s*xual harassment by a crazy broad !!!
Yeah, because it’s pointless, every girl has 5000 options and we’re at a point now where you have to compete with 10+ guys for an average girl that’s nothing special, lol.
Yes I notice it. I also know that boys and girls in high school are also tending to hang out in gendered groups more.
We do not speak to women if we can avoid it because we do not want to be the targets for your false accusations. Thank feminists for this.
Hey, women can go cry on the Bears shoulders.
It has not changed from my frame of reference. I remember there being shy people all through school, and there still are.
Young men have begin to realise that the juice ain't worth the squeeze. You can get false rape claims instantly or get called creeps. Isn't this what women wanted by the way?
Modern tech has created a generation of manufactured autistics.
It's as if women specifically requested this.
Welcome to post-MeToo society.
A sign of the times…. People would rather text or WhatsApp or something than actually have a conversation face to face….
Women never seem interested in talking. That’s why I don’t bother approaching
why they need to talk anymore when you can talk everything online on gag? there is only one thing talk in person left, fashion.
No talk anymore just fuck like internet
I do enjoy talking with older men first because they are more mature and play less games
Not being a young man anymore, no I hadn't noticed.
I hear it is all online now.
It's just you and the losers of GAG.
Nope.
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