Why do men say they age like fine wine and women age like milk? Fine wine is disgusting so why do they wanna compare themselves to it?

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Think about this in a literal way for a second.. aging like wine is not a good thing. Wine taste bitter, dry or grossly sweet 😖 it also went years in a dark basement without being touched. To add to this fire at fine wine tasting they spit it back into their glasses rather than drinking it.. I'm thinking like why do men wanna be known for being fine wine as they age? 🤔 It doesn't make sense wine is gross.

So gross it cant even be swallowed — So gross it can't even be swallowed

And then there's a saying about women aging like milk. Aged milk turns into cheese.. That's a good thing everyone loves chesse. People who are allergic to chesse even will eat it because it's so good. It's in very high demand at grocery stores being sold everyday and almost everyone buys it. It's not a insult to say this about a woman

Even when the chesse is ugly its still loved — Even when the chesse is ugly it's still loved

It's just dumb like men if you really think your aging well or trying to insult women then get a new saying because this ain't it. Y'all just sounding like a dumbass by saying this🙄 also it's odd for "straight" men to say this like they're gay for older men or something. Nothing wrong with that tho. I wish they wouldn't have to hide their true sexual identity 💅

SteveSmith1985 · Accepted Answer

Hey! I hope you remember me. We had a conversation that will forever scar me. Regardless. Hello.

I clicked this question originally because it made me chuckle. I then saw it was you, and was quite amused.

I was a bit thrown-off by the last chunk where I suddenly realized... you were half serious in being at least annoyed at (I'm assuming) some particular guy (or group of guys)... I'm hoping.

From what I remember, this isn't how I remember the tone and spirit of your posts. Aside from that one very disturbing--ut... fascinating--conversation (it was several years ago now). What I remember generally, is that you were somebody kinda quirky who often made me chuckle. But also seemed to be (what I would call) "one of the good ones."

I may not have agreed with you, but I thought you wrote good replies. They either had good points or advice or whatever, or it was quirky and weird... and often funny.

I thought this was just you being quirky and weird as-per usual. Then that last part... was quite a surprise... because it was coming from you. I really hope you just wrote that pissed off about a particular situation.

Also, you realize that's just an old misogynistic thing to say. It's been around forever, and no guy worth talking to would ever say that. If it's not said as a joke, then the guy is a complete fucking idiot. Why let them get to you.

So, "men" do not say this anymore than "men" say that women shouldn't be allowed to work and should be confined to housework.

No..."men" don't say that. Misogynistic idiots say that. Almost all of those idiots are men, I'll grant you that. But to think that "men" make this claim about aging is just not true. It's a bad misogynistic joke. It was even meant in a joking way when it was a much more common saying.

We all have to generalize about men and about women to some extent. Especially on GAG. We all have to attribute certain behaviors, thinking, tendencies and say "guys... blah blah blah" or "girls don't... blah blah. This generalization is totally unfounded. There are a tiny proportion of men who say this. They're just idiots. But they're nowhere near being representative of guys, or even guys at a certain age or some subgroup of guys: except for idiot misogynists who like to repeat tired old sayings to show everyone what an asshole they are. Or... they're just trolling you.

It's not a thing men do. It's a few assholes you were talking to.

Also,

I hate to tell you this, but you misunderstood how this saying was used. It wasn't intended as something to insult women. It was meant to describe how our society continuing to view old men as sexy (some of them) but not considering old women sexy (any of them).

If some guy were to be saying this about somebody then sure, that would just be misogynistic. But it's actually just a commentary on society views of old men vs women's sexuality.

It was just as often said by women., who found it unfair that older men were often still considered sexually attractive even as they age, whereas women as they age are often considered less and less sexually attractive.

E. g. how many 70 year old men can you think of who are considered attractive? (Sean Connery; George Clooney; Harrison Ford etc. I don't know how old they are, but they were all still "sexy" as old ass men. How many 70 year old women continued to be considered sexy (even if they were sex-symbols when they were younger)?

Exactly.

THAT is what that (still totally misogynistic) saying is about. It's about that social phenomenon. It's not saying "men are still hot when they're old, and women are not." it's an OBSERVATION of the social phenomenon (or more accurately the way that society shifts women from something sexual to something grandmotherly as they get old. Society does not do so for men.)

Now, it's fair to say that's fucked up, and society is fucked up because of it. You can even argue that it should be changed. But... it sounds like this might be you reacting to some particular losers. They aren't even worth engaging with.

If I didn't remember you, I wouldn't think very highly of whoever posted it. I might have written the basics of what I said... the tone would have been different though. The person who wrote this doesn't seem at all congruent with the pretty cool user I was excited to see again after being gone for a while.

I'm not trying to pick a fight or anything. I don't have any hard feelings. I am not trying to attack you. I hope we can still be GAG friends. I've totally totally posted things because I was pissed off that didn't really reflect the rest of what I usually post (and doesn't paint me iin the best light). I've totally done that, and it's no big deal.

I'm not asking you to explain, or defend yourself (I mean, do whatever you want).

I just had a very definite reaction when I went from "hey... I remember her" to being amused because I thought you were being weird (which I enjoy) because I didn't realize until the end that... you weren't coming from a place of making a stupid joke about a stupid saying. You were reacting (I think/hope).

I am the fist person to say guys are fucking idiots (in general) in lots of ways. I am also not somebody who is often defending "men." I'm inclined toward agreeing with most criticisms of men (and don't even get me started on young men/boys. They;re fucked up in a scary way)

I am as anti "Manosphere" as you'll ever get. I hate those idiots and think they're doing irreparable harm to society. All of them. THe whole movement and all of it's tentacles. I hope you somewhat remember me too, so that you know I'm not someone looking to defend men. I don't feel masculinity is under attack or any of that shit.

This offended me. Or pissed me off, rather. Because... these were just a couple of idiots. If this is something that seems anywhere near common or popular thing for men to say, you need to get out of whatever environment/forum whatever because it's full of idiots.

There is no need to reply anything to this (unless you want to). I'm not trying to call-you-out. I'm just trying to say... I hope you haven't changed as much over the past couple of years as this post would suggest. (I'm going to hope/assume that you haven't)

So... It's still very nice to see you're still around. I hope there's no hard feelings on your end. But that's not something I can control. I just call 'em as I see 'em.

See you around on on GAG. It's good to see you 🙂

(I am 99.9% sure that I'm talking to the right person. The username would have had to be the same but maybe without the space or something. On the odd chance that you don't know who the fuck I am... Sorry about that. This must have been very confusing)

RavVid · Accepted Answer

I'm not sure I know how to talk to someone who is so much not a connoisseur and has such little consideration for health.

Aged milk does not make cheese. The milk is infected by bacteria and and the lactose milk sugar is converted into very sour nasty tasting lactic acid and fungi get involved to generate other offensive odors and taste. You get sick from aged milk, hence I do have concerns over your well being in addition to your sensibility.

Proper cheese is made separating the curds and whey and processing the curds in various ways.

Wine is of course made from grapes of many different varieties and in many different styles. For you, we'll just call them Red or White to avoid it being too complicated for you. The grapes are pressed and yeast is added to convert the glucose & fructose to ethanol.

But that is just the first week at most. It is transferred to barrels to age in and to generate complex tastes and aromas over time. Generally, the longer the aging the better the wine becomes, and the more it is worth.

Some gentlemen, such as myself, will possess a small cask to age our own port to perfection because it does take time.

Hope that clarifies the distinction between fine wine and aged milk for you.

Babygirl_S · Accepted Answer

But most of them don’t even age well because they lack the energy of a young stud. Many of them have cooked eyebrows and receding hairline (or a desert 🌵). The “Chads” with abs usually lose definition. The reproductive ability they’re so proud of retaining is not the same as he was when younger. It’s like his sperms became criminals undercover. Any congenital diseases or miscarriages his partners can definitely have because of HIM will be blamed on her. Needless to mention they’re almost like dead fish as old men. They need to humble themselves before it’s too late.

Crimsyjo · Accepted Answer

Haha in my experience men do NOT age well. Men do not think they have to. So they drink, smoke, party in their 20's. And they look good. And it's all fine. Then boom. At 30 they looking rough. But a rugged rough. Younger girls are drawn to it still. But at 35+ they look 60. Believe me.. I'm on tinder looking for a guy my age and it's staggering how terrible men let themselves go.

Sun_Kim-Ai · Answer

Never understood that, in my opinion it's not a matter of sex, but rather of health care, diet and vices.

Not to ruffle my own feathers but that's how I was around Christmas last year.

Why do men say they age like fine wine and women age like milk? Fine wine is disgusting so why do they wanna compare themselves to it?

And this is how I look now, after shedding 15kg, quitting alcohol and smoking, adopting a primarily vegetarian diet and moderate exercise.

I got a neck again and people tell me I look way younger than my age while before I looked older. Stuff like alcohol, bad food and drugs really make you age like milk.

AManOnTheWeb · Answer

1. Milk doesn't age into cheese, you have to turn it into cheese and then you can age it.
2. Fine aged wine is objectively fantastic (unless someone is sober--which I respect and support), you mademoiselle are wrong and I sentence you to drink fine wine (spitting is ok too) until you learn to appreciate how great it is. But really, there are some incredible wines out there and you're seriously missing out.

That said, it's universally shitty to make women feel bad about their age. I think it's something young misogynist Incels tell themselves to feel better about their inability to find a partner.

alice55 · Answer

They just repeat what they hear, theyre dumb those who think like that, if we're being honest women age ways better than men cause they take care of themselves while men don't, they get old fat and wrinkly on average while doing nothing to cure it while women do skincare, protect their skin, diet, dress well...

The amount of old men I've met who smelled like piss and who wore dirty clothes is crazy on the other hand I never meet an old woman dressing bad or smelling horrible...(exept in retiree house but those are usually sick so that's another story).

ItsJill · Answer

I enjoy fine wine… but not all men age like wine. Some age like spoiled milk.  One ex grew a pedostache and three sizes when we broke up. He’s 36 and looks like a 50 something bloated alcoholic dad. Other ex has become skeleton thin with thin gray rat hair.

Grond21 · Answer

The idea behind the phrase is that men become more attractive as they get older and wealthier, just like high quality wine gets more expensive as it gets older. Aged milk does not automatically become cheese, because you have to add rennet into it and store it in the right conditions. Normally when milk ages it gets curdled and smells bad. So the idea is that women lose their attractiveness as they get older.

I think the phrase is overly simplistic and often wrong, plus not being helpful at all.

egarcia1360 · Answer

Well, duh, it won't make sense if you don't like wine to begin with! (Fwiw, I'm not a fan either). But among people who drink it, especially those who see themselves as having a ~refined palate~, aged wines are considered to be of higher quality. I looked up why out of curiosity, and apparently it's that certain wines become smoother and less acidic over time, plus subtle secondary and tertiary flavors come out after aging.

Milk, on the other hand, simply spoils after several days. Making cheese is a multi-step process that involves adding cultures and separating the different components, not just letting milk go bad and calling it a day.

D_Bone_Steak · Answer

Look, women's looks fade. They start out the gate with everything hot af. Men on the other hand... they have to hit the gym and/or build their finances.

All women have to do is not fuck up what God gave them and they're good. Men on the other hand, no matter what, have to earn God's grace. Born with it and fuck it up or not or you just never built it up... that's the real comparison between male and female losers.

I'm looking at you fat chicks out there... want to talk shit? Come at me you fat bitch. Don't think for a second I won't throw the fat gamer under the bus... but at least realize he's just the male version of you.

Blunky · Answer

Guessing this saying came from an alcoholic "gentleman" of old, kind of on the same level as people who self-identify as incels. Why in the world would a guy self-identify as that...

I've spent a lot of time with a lot of different patients in an ambulance / hospitals and it really goes both ways.

I've seen 30 year olds who look like they're 70. 80 year olds who look 40. I even had a 12 year old patient who looked like a late 20s fashion model, though that was more of a mother trying to live through her daughter type situation. She had a lot of mental health problems. The older males that didn't age well tended to be sour about many things. Probably why they identify as wine.

It doesn't take a whole lot of effort to figure out a look / style that brings out your qualities as you age but a lot of guys these days opt for the "Me-Angy-Hate-Women" approach instead. I will never understand that mentality as a straight man.

Purpleronnie · Answer

Personally I thought it was common knowledge that as ‘barrelled’wine ages it improves or in other words “improves with age” . The harsh tannins present in grape-must break down when aged in barrel’s as well as in bottles. Additionally , it’s a well known fact that milk , on the other hand does not. You don’t even have to taste old milk to know it’s past date

The original saying has origins in the 1800’s and has been misquoted here for humor. “ some men age like a fine wine , while others turn to vinegar “ . It has nothing to do with the taste of the wine, If you don’t like the taste of wine you’re not going to appreciate the difference in an aged or fine wine.

Also , saying that old milk turns to cheese that is only half true. Cheese is the controlled spoilage of milk , plus bacteria … generally speaking. I’m no cheesemand but letting milk spoil in a house and then spreading the lumpy bits on bread isn’t going to be tasty 😋 😂

Bricealan · Answer

@apple1996 Damn, Apple, your logic is irrefutable ! LOL I see it every day... men age like shit... balding, pot belly, no teeth, or bad teeth, can't see, can't hear, and no glasses and no hearing aids...(Maybe a bit exaggerated, but mostly true) Women age just fine, and I know SEVERAL of them.

Agape93 · Answer

It's just another way to shit on women as lesser beings.

Lynx122 · Answer

I didn't come up with it XD  I'll be 35 in a month what do you think? :)

TCredo · Answer

lol funny thoughts and images here :) I do not think I've ever said that - and maybe it's because I do not like wine... but I do love and drink lots of milk :)

I know many folks (including myself and my wife) who are "aging" well. And I also know many who are not - and it's more men who aren't. Maybe because they are drinking too much wine :)

LiamJHayden · Answer

People who take care of themselves generally age well. Those who don't generally do not. I often see women of 50+ out running in the morning who look great and I see women 25 and under who look rough from too much partying. Same goes for guys. I see guys in their 50's in the gym working it and I see guys younger than I am who look old from too much drinking, junk food, and laziness.

Stevepro68 · Answer

I'm sorry so men say this. I've not really heard any mane say this to me. Is this a pop culture thing I'm missing?

HawkPerception · Answer

Some people age well and some don't. It applies to both men and women... not just men. Genetics are a large factor. And working out consistently is another large factor.

Women do tend to look best when they're younger though (in their 20s). That is an undeniable fact proven through statistics.

convo_king89 · Answer

I never liked wine either, but I guess when wine ages in the bottle you get more complex devolved flavors as it marinates. I think I saw they recovered wine from the titanic and everyone said it i great. I mean guys don’t have to worrry about the looks as much but just make sure get $$.

Mark987 · Answer

I think it's just a quote that sounds classy lol. I don't like wine... I remember seeing a girl I graduated from High School randomly in a club and she was always very attractive but she looked phenomenal that night, and she used that line. I was like isn't fine wine bitter lol.

ChicoFromThe305 · Answer

Is this really what you are stressing about apples 😂

berrytired · Answer

Balding for one is a more common and severe problem for men. When it comes to wrinkles, it has very little to do with gender and more with the structure of your face plus health stuff. I don't care for alcohol and comparing women to food, drinks, objects is weird. I can take a random object and compare it to men, doesn't make my observations true automatically.

fish5505_87 · Answer

If it's fine, it wouldn't be disgusting! Actually, Wine and Cheese go well together. See, Men and woman were meant for each other!

MannMitAntworten · Answer

Aged milk does not turn into cheese unless you add certain bacteria to it to begin the processes. Otherwise it just spoils.

Aged wine or wine in general isn’t everyone’s first choice. I love wine so it is different to me. I get the analogy.

SolitarySolace · Answer

The phrase ‘aging like fine wine’ is more about improving with time, gaining depth, wisdom, and refinement. It’s not really meant to be taken literally. The same goes for the ‘aging like milk’ comparison—though that one is definitely unfairly negative toward women. Aging is a complex thing, and everyone experiences it differently. - Eva ❤️

Miristheiss · Answer

Men age like Sean Connery.  And women age like... Sean Connery.  Because it is usually TRUE.

HungTexan · Answer

I think that’s a sexist comment/idea. Women are awesome at any age.

NathanDavis · Answer

again... these are not men...

Bklynbadboy12 · Answer

It's funny you brought this up cause in my experience mean don't age well at all. But women damn sure do. You can see a woman that 50 and she looks 32 as for men not so much

Zack-Bann · Answer

Difference between “aged” and “left to spoil in the sun” And trust me not all milk turns into cheese had to take a swig from an expired box to find that out (the hard way)

hahahmm · Answer

Probably because there's wine that is hundreds of years old.. even thousands of years old. Nobody has milk older than a month. And most doesn't even last that long.

KittygosMeoWW · Answer

Yeah, wine gets bitter and dry the older it gets cheese gets colorful and tasty

Cubus · Answer

Is "aging like milk" really bad? Sounds cool

Jay-_- · Answer

I don't know where to start, so it's best I don't start at all. 😂

Wiredone · Answer

They are trying to give themselves an ego boost by saying that

clampfan101 · Answer

Those winers aren’t not being scientific. Just cheesy. lol 😅

Shiprex · Answer

Fine wine might not be everyone's taste but you could say whisky instead for men while both are better than milk that's off

TrustOfWorthington · Answer

I don't know who came up with that nonsensical stupid comparison.

SixFootSexy · Answer

Aging with wealth, good genes and exercise makes all the difference. Look at celebrities of both genders.

verknallt · Answer

Because wine gets more expensive as it gets older.  However I don't agree with their statement, both men and women can age well.

oldpigg · Answer

Young people are more attractive in both sexes, however, an older woman is not attractive at all; at 30, a woman's beauty is a resounding zero.

Redstang88 · Answer

You know what the metaphor is, you’re just choosing to twist it

msc545 · Answer

Subtlety and metaphor are not your areas of strength, I take it?

RedInnocent69 · Answer

You’re just not a wineo! Because patriarchy. And girls like older guys, whereas guys like younger girls

Ladsin2 · Answer

Ever had old milk? I'd prefer old wine to old milk 99% of the time.

es20490446e · Answer

Then why do I have exponential more women interested in me in my 30s than in my 20s?

jamesgoldman · Answer

I've never said it but I've had fine wine before and it's great

Jerre · Answer

I never heard that before

itsannalee · Answer

I don’t know, i age like wine as well 😂

zagor · Answer

Milk doesn't cost $90 a bottle. Though with Trump it may soon.

dustybiker2 · Answer

Never heard a happy man say this.

Sunrising · Answer

I've never said that !

Aiko_E_Lara · Answer

That only means men's life isn't as easy as a lot of girls think it is.

Brendan824 · Answer

I don't drink so not sure what fine wine tastes like but fine milk ain't fine either

Manuelwe · Answer

Women that use too much make up when young and cold clean age worse than men.

Kelly6 · Answer

@apple1996 no one ages as fine wine.

On_cloud_wine · Answer

Do you. It understand metaphors?

Chargirllll · Answer

I love fine wine 🍷😊😍

PaleDale · Answer

Lol men age like vinegar

Why do men say they age like fine wine and women age like milk? Fine wine is disgusting so why do they wanna compare themselves to it?

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