Opening door for woman/elder/child
Letting woman/elder/child drink or eat first
Paying for your date/child
Like not only showing it on dates but in everyday life too.
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I'm not pulling a girl's chair. I'm not opening their door. And we're going 50/50 on dates. Women fought for equality, so they deserve it. It's funny how women will cry about equality until the bill comes. Then they suddenly want you to man up and treat them like a princess.
The traditional dynamic of men paying for women came from times where women were not allowed to work or if they did, it was a fraction of what men made. The man paying the bill made sense in those times. Yet now that we have equality, with women having equal pay, how is it the man still has to pay for the woman? Is a woman's time more valuable? Is she not also interested in the man?
I can tell you right now if a girl isn't willing to go 50/50 with me, then good. She saved me from wasting my time with her.
HOWEVER, if she wants a traditional dynamic in the relationship where the man in the breadwinner and she's a stay at home wife, then I'd be happy to pay for everything. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
You only discussed what you'd do with romantic partner. How do you feel about chivalry in just everyday life too? Like with small children, weaker men and elderly?
I'm the type that holds the door for EVERYONE. If ANYONE needs help, I'm happy to give it if it's within my capability. If I'm on public transit, I always give my seat up for an elderly person or small children. I can only hope that when I'm older people treat me the same..
@Yoursweetgirl I'll hold a door open for anyone - good public relations for me - however and be polite enough in social situations - yet I'm one who aims to be a modern man, up myself I may sound, 😋👌🏻🙂 so I'm not very much a gentleman 🤠 🎩 neither am I a bottom-dweller sloth lol 🦥😆 I try to be a mix of qualities that a woman would appreciate
I wouldn't say I 'like it' as much as I do it for a multitude of reasons.
For beginners, it's the right thing to do, I mean c'mon why would I the better otherwise?
Second, it's easier to be nice toward women than mean.. my old go-to comparison is that it's so much easier to hold the door than force it shut on someone for any reason.
Next, I treat every woman as I treat my mother.. I know that's not the same for all, si I guess that's a personal thing in my eyes.
Lastly, it's fitting in my views of how life should be, where nature or nurture I'm not sure, but it fits in with my religious views, to seal the bow at the end.
Yea we do. It makes us feel like we're fulfilling our obligations as a good partner because in my opinion one of the traits of a good man is a sense of chivalry and honor. Never date a guy who doesn't back up his words and principles with actions or he'll take you for granted inevitably.
No. It's not a choice. It's not a matter of liking it or not. It's just how I was raised. It's just courtesy. Every time I leave my house I represent my family name. And as my father used to say, "I had that name long before you and you WILL represent that name well".
If I hold a door open for someone, it is only because the alternative is closing it in their face, which is widely frowned upon. It has nothing to do with gender nor age.
If I pay for any sort of a shared experience, it is either because it is my round... or because they earn less than I do and I want to keep things proportional.
I don't consider it a manner of "chivalry or gentleman manners" because I don't give a toss about either of those things.
My gentrification is just a normal part of me. I wouldn’t say I like or dislike it. I mean, women from time to hold doors for me as well. Along with other things mentioned in your post. I think it is just polite society and not exclusively directed towards women but with other men as well. People gain a lot more traction with others with a measure of civility. This goes for online as well.
For elderly, needy, disabled - yes.
But not for women. It makes me feel like a servant/butler. I am against that. I do not believe men should be treated as a worse subhuman species only because they were born males.
Chivalry has gone to the same place women belonging in the kitchen went, and it was women who sent both to that place. I try to treat everyone with respect and kindness. But I don't go out of my way to treat women as if they are special just because they are women. Women have lost the right to be treated as special, because they are no longer special. They worked very hard to NOT be special. Such is the world women have created for all of us.
Couldn't have said it better
Maybe 20 years ago I was at a hipster bar in Philadelphia and they had one unisex bathroom. It was late and I found myself in line. I struck up a great conversation with a woman behind me. When it came to my turn I said "ladies first" and told ger to go before me
She said she didn't belive in that. But I did. So we played morals chicken. Letting everyone go ahead of us, because I wasn't going to pee before her. They closed the bar and I pissed in the ally. She was so fucki g mad...
Omg 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yes, it's just how I was raised, it feels weird/strange or wrong, if I didn't hold the door open, paying on the date, and many others. Now that I am married certain things have changed between my wife and I, but I still hold doors open, let woman go first!
Yes. It's the right thing to do and I like helping people feel appreciated.
I often open and hold the door for a lady, including my wife. I also pull the chair out for my wife. It's just something I naturally do. I'm guessing my father taught me that when I was young, since he did those things for my mother
No, that's lazy. I am only kind to people with limiting conditions; pregnant women, the elderly, children, people with disabilities, etc.
Acts like giving up a seat on public transportation or also holding the door open; for someone who has no difficulties they can manage by themselves, unless they are my loved ones
Depends on my mood and location as well as the reception it's likely to have, as in will it be respected and acknowledged otherwise it's almost normal to keep the door open if they're near but not only for women. I'd do it for anyone.
I'm into mutual chivalry, if we have to name it like that, though it's just mutual courtesy to me. If it's not mutual, it feels fake and lonely to me
It's not so much that I like it, I just do it to be nice.
That's always been the kind of guy I am, yes. Although less and less women are worth it, nowadays.
I do it, not because I derive some immense joy from those practices, but simply because they have been engrained in me.
Yes because I was raised that way. But especially for women, the elderly, children, or any one else whose weaker I like to be a sweet heart for.
Yes all the time , it's how I grew up , so it's just natural for me.
I do.
Because sometimes you do get a nice smile at the very least.
Yes I do, to create my good impression on them.
I like being polite and civilized in general. I like the idea of civilization.
Of course. Respect must be earned and not expected. To earn respect one must give it.
Yes I do this all the time. My father raised me right
I practise manners. If a woman dislikes that, it was never going to happen. I hold up class.
Yes because I was taught that is how I should treat a woman.
It's one of the best parts of being a man for me. All of those things make me feel fantastic.
So women want traditional men but men can't wish traditional women.
How do you feel about showing chivalrous manners to children and elderly too? My question is not only about treating women this way.
I like doing that because I believe that's what should be done when you are with a woman especially if she gave you the chance to get to know her on a date
I was raised that way. Modern feminists believe it is degrading to women.
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