They're not the least attractive. But you're talking about a predominantly white nation having a preference towards predominantly white women.
It's interesting all the generalizations about black women. A lot of such generalization, like the attitude or the weight, come from how black Americans are socialized by each other and the media. They are still recovering from a past so traumatic is sends ripples through the entire race.
But it's rather ironic to generalize blacks: Nearly all of the genetic variety in the human species is in Africa and in blacks around the world. Europe, for instance, is the most genetically-homogeneous continent on the planet. The Germanic nations even more so.
So you can expect that white people would have a preference for white features. And TBH, the stereotypical black woman (Loud-mouthed, KFC-eating, finger-waving, generously-sized woman.) repulses me to no end. But since when were all black women like that?
To finish it off, I have a question for women, then. What do WOMEN have against Asian men? Asian men seem to be viewed as the least desirable men.
I've heard enough times "How did that Asian guy end up with a white girl? Like THAT can ever happen." To which I reply "Okay, sure...but they get Asian women!"
I PERSONALLY DO NOT have a problem with Asian men. In fact, I am absolutely crazy for them!!! From personal experiences, I have been ridiculed for obsessing with Asian men, from women of different backgrounds. Basically, the stereotypes fall into place. It's sickening... It's from the same women that say, "Men don't like me because I'm too fat, I'm too ugly..." But you just did the same external thinking to that Asian man that could have been amazing, etc. I don't get it. I want my future husband to be Asian, I don't want to talk a lot, but my heart is in Korea; both North and South and I plan I marrying someone from there too <3
Asian men are super sexy, it's just that most of them cannot date outside of their race because of their heritage, so I just assume he's unavailable. It's hard for me to find an Asian boyfriend, and believe me... I want one!
I know this is an old post but people are still finding and reading it so here:
Black women are some of the most desirable women in the world. That is why we have been mixed with so many races, French, Spanish, Dutch, etc. Why did so many Slave Masters visit the black woman's coveted vagina? Even in her raw beauty of uncombed hair and ragged cloths made from hemp men of all races found her irresistible. Just take a look at history, not His -Story.
Did white mother raise her little white children? No sir, guess who raise her little white babies? Mamie. You want to know why? Not only was the black woman most desirable for her beauty and sexuality but she was also thought to be better suited as mother to young offspring's of little white children. I could go on and on but I don't have the time. I'm sure I'm going to get a lot of hate but just look at history, it tells it's own story. No hot irons, no make up, in some cases not even a bath! so how did some of us get light and damn near white is she is so undesirable.
It's a part of mental slavery and mental bondage that we need to break away from and recognize the black woman for everything she was, everything she is, and everything she will be. Big Dre
As a black woman, even I have to say that is NOT true; black women are NOT the most desirable women in the world. There is no evidence of this. The most desirable women are Latinas and white women. Period.
I'm white, and I've seen many black girls whose beauty I envied. But any man who would not date a woman based on her appearances alone is shallow.
I've noticed something about the black community, however, and I don't mean to generalize--many times, it seems that black women are viewed in a more demeaning and less respectful way by their own families and communities, with young girls being raised with the mentality that they have to catch a man and keep him happy. This is somewhat less true for whites. Again, I'm generalizing, and correct me if I'm wrong. But I'm a salesclerk and I see and deal with all kinds of people. I've seen black men treat their girlfriends like they were lucky to have any kind of male attention at all. This is as much her problem as it is his. Her acceptance of his treatment of her just perpetuates it.
For an intelligent, educated, and pretty black woman such as you seem to be, you should not have any problem finding someone who values you for who you are.
One last thing--for every rule, there is an exception. For instance, it's thought that most men prefer women with big breasts. And maybe they do, but that isn't stopping the millions of small-breasted women in the world from finding people who love them and value their beauty. So even though you may think that many men find black women unattractive, there are just as many men who think they're beautiful--or who, most importantly, judge women on an individual basis rather than as a group.
I don't know if this has to do with anything. But for instance black woman's hair is curly and look like metal sponges (sorry I don't know the right word). Black woman's hair is not naturally straight like other races. Also think about it, the most appealing colors are always light and brilliant colors, NO dark colors. That's why diamonds are more eye catchy than lets say cold or something of that sort. In metals is the same thing. Gold is more appealing than bronc and other dark colors of metals. Actually for the most part black woman have very strong face features, like really string jaws, big noses and they like. If you see this with white women who for the most part have softer face features, are white skinned or at least much lighter like skin, usually have light color eyes and light color hair then you might see why black girls are not considered as more good looking. That doesn't mean though that girls with dark hair and dark eyes are ugly or average because that;s not true, there is some very good looking dark hair and eyes girls. same for black girls. But if you ask me its mostly their hair, their face features, and the dark color of their skin, its not as eye catchy as white skin, since its less bright. I am not racist, but you asked a very controversial question so I am giving you a very honest answer. Remember the media influences as well, the women that are considered the most are not black women, the media also reinforces that.
I guess it comes down to biology. We are just socializing mammals, and for most of human existence, we’ve only lived in small groups. It’s only been in the last 10,000 years or so (a mere blink of the eye in geological timescales) that we’ve started to live in gatherings of more than a few hundred. Back then every group was competing for the same resources, so it made evolutionary sense to be wary of strangers. If somebody wandered into your village, who looked different from your people, they were considered a threat.
So we are genetically predisposed to be attracted to people who look somewhat like us. And to fear those who are different.
In more recent times we’ve been forced to live in bigger and bigger groups and during the last hundred years, in far more diverse groups. Which means that a lot of us have managed to overcome that predisposition,
Personally, I am a white guy living in a very multi-cultural city. I consider myself to be very liberal, and have friends from all races. I have seen plenty of beautiful Black women, Asian women, Mediterranean women, Arabic women... And I recognise their beauty. But I’m not sexually attracted to it.
But there’s absolutely no denying that deep down inside my brain, that I find girls who look like me more attractive than girls who don’t.
I’m sure that black guys find black girls hotter than others
And Asian dudes dig on Asian chicks.
That’s not to say that some people can’t overcome this programming –thank goodness they do. It makes the world a far more interesting place.
ooh BULLSHIT. If you fear those who are different why do you love gingers? I don't see brunettes having issues with blond folk? Bc incase you haven't noticed; many white dudes bitch about Latinas being sexy. So why is that not the same for black women? They are all sick and you are all twisted
Yes, it's true. They are the least desirable people. They have big lips, act all ghetto (that included stupidity and laziness), they make 10+ babies on welfare, big asses, large rolls of fat, pitch dark skin, yellow eyes, flat ugly noses, and they have pubes on their head that they use cholesterol to straighten out their nappy pube-like hair. If they meet any of the criteria above, they're out of here.
I would look for girls with class, intelligence, sense of humor, etc. Black girls hardly meet any of these criteria. Most black girls hang out with wankstas, a type of people whom I despise for their utter stupidity and despicable behavior, who forgo their education just so they can be 'well liked' by their wanksta peers.
In essence, these are my preferences and dislikes. They would sound racist and it could be, but not many people would want a girl with any of those disgusting features like nappy hair or yellow eyes.
Plus, I get plenty of heat from my old fashioned parents. I don't want more of it by bringing a black girl home and then my parents freak out and disown me. The same thing happens if I 'become gay', which will never happen.
No, I am not a racist. If I were, then I wouldn't be friends with black people. I'm not white, and I have many friends from all different races and ethnicities. I may have black friends, I wouldn't date them cause they're just platonic friends even whey they like me. Things just don't click with them.
I know you're trolling but in the case that you arent...
Big lips are undesirable? Since when did only black people have big lips? Last time I checked, fuller lips were attractive to straight males(if you gay then nevermind). See collagen lip injections.
Acting ghetto is due to the ghetto environement. Which is white people that grew up in a "ghetto" environment act ghetto also. It's not a black thing.
Stupidity? Says the guy that believes all of these stereotypes.
If all or most black people were having 10+ kids the birthrate for blacks would be steadily increasing, but according to the US Census there are just enough births to replace the deaths. Which is why the black people are still around 18% of the population of the US.
Once again, since when are big butts undesirable. Straight guys are attracted to curvy women because they are more fertile (again, if you are gay then nevermind).
Americans in general are fat (disregard if you are not American, but I'm sure you are).
I'm not understanding the yellow eyes thing. I'm black, and the sclera of my eyes are white. They're white for all of black people I'm close to except for my aunt, she's a smoker so they're not quite as white as mine. Smokers=yellow eyes, not race.
Asians are more known for having the flatter noses, or lower nose bridges rather (that doesn't make it ugly).
Cholesterol is used to conditioning not straightening, and not only black people use it. Black people do not grow pubic hair on their heads. Pubic hair grows in the pubic region.
If you haven't met a single black girl with class, intelligence, or sense of humor, where you live then you have got to move out asap. Move to the suburbs. Theres's less "wankstas".
At least you acknowledge that you may be racist. Round of applause.
I'm with you, yellow eyes due to smoking are not attractive.
As for the hair thing, black people can get straight hair. My hair is what you may consider "nappy", but it's long and when it's straightened (with a flat iron) it looks just like asian hair. "Nappy" hair is a good thing. It prevented my ancestors from overheating in the sun in Africa. Just like how my asian ancestors have monolids/epicanthic folds to block blowing sand, snow, and the glare of the sun.
I think its hilarious (and all too ironic) when someone this ignorant has the nerve to say he wants an intelligent girl with class. on top of all this he thinks having black friends means he isn't racist. silly rabbit. lol oh well. I love my (beautiful) kinky-nappy-pube-like hair thank you very much! haha
I think that's ridiculous to say an entire group of people are ugly. Everyone looks different. Of course there are similarities. Black women have their assets just like any other race. Full lips, dark eyes, curvy figure. That sounds like today's ideal beauty to me. And I wouldn't worry about fitting in with the ideal beauty anyway, we all know they are impossible standards. What's more ideal is to accept our own beauty, no matter what.
I've not experienced this thing about black women not being as beautiful. Partly because I'm white, so I'm just oblivious to it. But maybe being in a predominately white area they see you as different and unfamiliar and are afraid. When you are at a point in your life to move, look for a place with lots of diversity, you will find accepting people that won't think being black is so different.
My best friend in college was a black girl and she preferred white men. And we noticed that typically white men see black women as "exotic". And she had many dates and boyfriends, but rarely long term relationships because these men were looking to get to have sex with "the black girl".
I really have no clue why all this is, but I wanted to give my most honest answer. I'm sorry you have to experience this, I think black women do have a hard role to play in life, and it makes them stronger and more independent and perhaps superior women.
I also forgot to add my friend is currently in a serious long-term relationship with a white man. So, while in her youth she had more trouble, as she got older men weren't so superficial I guess.
First off, you're young and once you move out of your town, if you decide to you'll see a difference. I grew up in a predominately black neighborhood. I had white friends but never white boyfriends. I wasn't all that sure if white guys found me attractive but I figured it was their loss if they didn't.
I went into the military and found out that they did. Some white guys like black girls but they do not voice it. I had a white boyfriend and had just as many white and Asian guys hit on me as black guys. Some liked me as a novelty; others liked me because of their personal preference. Most of them liked me for me.
When you describe guys that you like, do you describe their skin tone as dark, pale or tanned. You are stating a preference just like most of us do. The fact that you ask about your question about your Asian half is astounding and racist in itself. Please just deal with the fact that people have preferences and the American media does not do much for African and African American females' self esteem; let alone any women's . Love yourself. Clothes and music choice don't make you white or black and the fact that you will not date a white man because he embraces "urban culture" is a preference and slightly racist as well.
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Guys that I like come in various skin tones. I'm not exclusive to just one. I do have preferences in guys but my preferences aren't "racial preferences". I could say 'oh I love brown hair" but brown hair can apply to all races.
And I think you misconstrued a lot of what I said. What was racist about me talking about my asian half? I can and have dealt with people having preferences, I just think that it's a totally illogical way of thinking, but that's just my opinion on it.
Besides, my question isn't even about racial preference, and I really wanted to avoid that because I have a strong disagreement with it. I just wanted deeper reasons behind their so called preference because their reason for their preference is indeed something deeper.
What I meant on the thing about me not liking a white guy that is (I didn't say "embraces" please don't twist my words) *heavily* influenced by hip hop is that a lot of the white guys like that have a preference for black girls.
I obviously don't want to be a preference (or as a "novelty" as you stated above) because not only does that go against what I stand for, but mostly from the fact that I don't want to be his "black" girlfriend, I just want to be his girlfriend. By all means, please tell me how that's racist? Biased maybe but not racist because I like white guys. Now if I had wrote off all (or most) white guys as being undesirable then you could tell me I'm a racist.
I made the statement because yyou attribute the fact that the white guys that you have been around don't want to date you because your part black. Did it ever occur to you that that may not be all there is to it? Preferences are not all illogical. They are a way of continuing the human race regardless of your ethnicity or cultural background. A fiar number of preferences are actualy based on perceptions and markers of fertility in humans i.e. big boobs, curvy hips, broad shoulders, deep voice.
Some of the preferences are pushed by the media to the detriment of certain races i.e. fiar skin, blue eyes. You question is about racial preference because, the fact is most people desire people of their own race first. There is nothing racist about talking about your asian half but there is some underlying self hatred when you basically have nothing positive to say about your black half either.
Most of the white guys I've been around have made it very clear that they don't like black girls, which has nothing to do with me because they won't date any black girl whether it's me or another black girl. Once again, I didn't say preferences are illogical, I said that "racial: preferences are illogical. I could even argue that there is no such thing as race, only culture (which anyone can belong to). Okay if they desire thair own race first I think that is fair enough for me.
But so many non-black (and even a lot black guys) put black women on the bottom of their list of "preferences". Some guys will even say "everything except black". I am not making this up. Look around the web, youtube, televisions shows such as tyra banks, or even pay a visit to where I live and you'd see why I'm saying this. I could say a lot of good things about being black & black people as a whole, & I could say a lot of bad about being asian, but this topic is specifically about black girls.
What I've noticed is that when people find/realize I'm 1/2 asian they want to be my friend, and my non-black friends always have something nice to say about me being asian, but I never get any compliments about being black ever. I think black women are extremely beautiful (that might be a bit of bias since I am considered black), but the whole reason why I ask this question is because most people don't seem to think the same.
Im being honest here and I beleive that black girls light skin or dark are just as attractive as any other race of women. I think statistically black women marry less because in general which I may be wrong on, they are the most likely to remain dating only within their race without wantign to branch out and explore other races of men. I'm guessing you live in the U.S. where people are much more heaviliy influeneced by media then most other foreign countries. where I live in england. its not reallyso much of a big deal we do have influence from america here but not so much. I'm part brazilian and part italian which stereotypically says I like black women, I guess that holds true for me as all flavours of sugar are just as sweet, but from man to man it varies, maybe the guys where you lvie are a little nervous to be different and branch out from what is the norm. I'm sure a lot of the guys where you lvie find youvery attractive but they may feel a little held back. just show them that you are not the generalised type of black girl that is portrayed in media, just be yoruself and they will love you
Good Luck, God Bless
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Do you think it's because black women from England are different than American black women? What do you think non-black men in America have against black women?
All of the black girls at my college (though they are few in number), are very feminine, mild-mannered, intelligent, and quirky. I have never met a black girl that fits the stereotype. Sure I've met some black girls that love to laugh and talk loudly but how is being happy and vivacious a bad thing?
Maybe that is sorta true as england and america do have their cultural differences so we tend to act and think of things a little different I guess. where I live in the UK there are black girls but every single one I have met and know does not fit into the stereotype whatsoever, actually the only one who even remotely fits in with it is a biracial girl but she is nothing bad. so I guess guys are less put off by the black girls. the men in england that don't like black girls, although they may
Not want to go out with the, they don't tend to put them down either and it doesn't stop them being freinds with them. I think the guys in america who are non black have somethingn against black girls because unless someone knows the truth, they are usually going to go with what they hear. as these non black guys hear a lot of general stereotypes about black girls put out, they tend to most likely beleive they are true unless given the chance to be proven otherwise.
So I think it may just be bad judgement of character as the reason they choose to have somethign against them and also there is a beleif that white guys are likely to stick to white women while black women are likely to stick to black men while the opposite is not true. so I think black girls are put off into thinkin a white guy won't like them and a white guy is put of into thinking that a black girl won't like them as it is not generally as publicised. :)
I would like to start by stating I am not racist. I find beauty in various women of all ethnic backgrounds. However, I cannot deny that some races have a higher percentage of attractive women than others.
Although I do agree that black women are generally not as attractive as other women, I don't think its a simple matter of skin color. In fact, dark skin is a turn on for me. I've noticed generally ugliness is determined more by body type and facial structure. If you compare faces of people from different countries, there are undeniable differences in placement and size of various bones in the face.
For me, the aesthetic traits most common in the faces of black women are less appealing then those from other races. Another major factor to take into consideration is stereotypes. I'm sure you know what I mean. Big butts, loud demanding attitudes, uneducated, etc.. I realize that not every black women fits the stereotypes, but there are a lot who do.
There are plenty of black women who don't fit the stereotypes and are quite beautiful. I'm pretty sure most people can agree on this. If you are "pretty compared to most black girls" as you say, I'm sure you're pretty compared to anyone else. If you don't fit the stereotypes, are pretty, and have trouble finding a boyfriend... You might try being a little big more aggressive. Show that guy you like that you are not like all those black women who give you a bad name.
My apologies if you find this offensive. I am just trying to be honest. Again, I am not racist and there are many black women who I find to be very sexy.
I'm glad you brought this up because some white women tan to a lighter black complexion and sometimes darker so I agree its not about the color believe it or not which is what I think most people jump to the conclusion it is. It is about the stereotypes, and I will admit some truths, about black women and black people in general and what you see for yourself in your future.
YOU are the only white guy here that sounds educated. You hit the nail on the head. Yiur answers are very well put together and make sense, not just some result of brainwashing and too much TV/racism. I'm a black girl . I don't have a thin pinocchio nose but its not huge I'm pretty and slim( most white girls are sloppy compared to me) My butt is bubbly not huge and I can't stop getting compliments from white guys eveyday on the train. I'm college educated and NOT loud I have no problems with guys
I have seen gorgeous black girls, and I am white. I suspect some of what you still run into is families would rather their child bring home mates of the same race and religion syndrome. I also beleive these trends are getting weaker for every generation. In my grandparents day, you would not have seen races mixing or playing, in my day there was more mixing. In the couple of generations after me there is far more mixing going on. I like this trend, but we are not completely there yet. In my case I went to a fairly unsegregated mixed school, if your school is predominantly white this will likely cause more issues for you.
But, perhaps you can help a bit, have you looked within. I am not accusing you of being raciest, but perhaps hurt by it and therefore sending out unintended messages. I don' t blame you for your feelings, but is it in part due to crutches, excuses, or self pity? We all have and will experience biases, whether its race, abilities, religion, physical characteristics, somewhere we will all experience it. . I find the best to pretend it does not exist, move on, and be better. Do whatever things you can to do to minimize the issues. You might have to extend yourself a bit more in social networks, I suspect things will come around for you better if you do this. .
Well,I think that the reason most white guys stick to a girl of their race is because they are more similiar.A lot of times,when you like someone its for the qualities that match your own.As for the black guys,I have no idea what is going on inside their heads and have no explanation for their actions.Black girls are most defidentally NOT ugly.I've seen many beautiful black women.Dont degrade yourself by comparing yourself to todays beauty standards because what they call 'beautiful' is sometimes mud ugly.If they said roadkill was beautiful people would believe them.And it is not just black girls that catch the crap,its anyone that looks different in general.It could be the way you dress,the color of your skin,facial shape,hell,it could even be your socks! But,people are shallow and judgemental,just ignore them.I know its hard,trust me,I know.You know what though? You are better off in the end.Its not just racism its shallow-ness(if that's a word).I am white and I know there is no excuse for what they are doing.Just remember we are not all like that.Boost your confidence up,girl,it'll get better!
I guess you're right about the similarities thing, but honestly most of the black girls in my neighborhood are like the white girls. We all grew up in the same environment so other that appearance, we are all the same.
Actually, I've moved on past this whole complex of mine. I still think about it sometimes but it's not a big deal to me anymore. My self-esteem is much better now even though nothing has really changed other than that (I still don't have a bf), but thanks so much for your answer
Well in my area it was predominantly white and I didn't really know much different. All I could really see what was on tv or what I was told (obnoxious, loud, ghetto, strongly opinionated). Eventually there were a few black kids went to my school K-8 ( I was in 6th or 7th grade when the first black kid came. He wasn't treated different then any other kid and was actually quite popular.
Anyway at my high school there was a small number of black people and they weren't once again treated any different. However they did play into the stereotypes that were given to most African Americans ( two guys played basketball and were good, were players with the ladies, etc.) and there was another few that actually rapped. They did it at one of our assemblies. The girls there were loud and strongly opinionated. I didn't know of any in my year in high school (actually one I lied) and only saw what the younger and older ones did and acted.
I'm in college and have a black friend. We hang out all the time.
Anyway in the dining hall every once in a while I will be eating when a ruckus starts and breaks the traditional dull roar of the dining complex. There is a table of black people who start pounding out a beat and start yelling and dancing and disrupting people's dinner (I think it is awesome and really funny, especially since people get so bugged by anything that breaks the ordinary) . Anyway so this is what I see to be the typical black girl. I am more of a shy guy and do not think that a loud, strong opinionated lady would fit me well. Therefore I prefer white girls I guess you could say. I don't think I am racist but there are trends that I have noticed. I try to give everyone a shot at being a friend before ruling them out. I feel it is only fair.
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Hmm, well what if it were a black girl that was equally shy as you? A lot of the black women in my family are very loud, but none of the black girls I know that are my age are like that. Hispanic women are loud and very opinionated as well. How come no one says anything about that? I think that a lot of times, if something is known for being a black thing (rapping. basketball, etc), people will turn it into a negative thing even if it's positive.
Well for me I don't really like the loud Hispanic girls as well. However you didn't ask about other races. I don't like white super loud girls. It isn't the race it is the personality or characteristics.
i actually wrote a paper on rap and hip hop music back in high school that I got an A+ on btw
black women get the bad rap that they get because these so called "new school" rappers like 50 cent, degrade women to make them look like sex objects and moneymakers... of course women are not like that, especially after the womens movement of the 70's. "old school" rap didn't do this. sugarhill gang, I mean come on I don't think you ever hear the B word in there, yet in songs like "get low" you hear the M------F--- word.
to white guys, black women just don't do it for us, I dk y really, its just got to do with how we are attracted to a specific thing for a long time and you can't change it just like that "snaps fingers" it'd be like taking an animal out of its territory and putting it somewhere unknown, its not gonna know how to act around that new territory.
thats not to say ALL white men don't like black women. I for one, would not mind at least trying it out, just to see what it'd be like. I mean afterall black women are just as equal as white women, they just have different tastes in different things, so maybe you're attracted to that black woman for her tastes/looks, ya know?
so yeah, don't get so down on yourself if you really would like to date a white guy, there are white guys out there who like and maybe even prefer black women.
thats my preach of the day
thanks for listening
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Yeah, there's some truth to what you said.
I hate [most] rappers.
Well I think if white guys were around black girls more, they'd start to like them. Social conditioning.
White guys don't even talk to me unless their gay or one of those white guys that are heavily influenced by hip hop (not that there's anything wrong with that), but normal white guys don't, even though I'm not even into hip hop.
The thing is, I don't want a white guy that "prefers" black girls. Racial preferences are stupid.
Yeah I see what you mean, cause if they say they don't prefer them, it makes them seem like theyre settling for less than the best, its not that I don't prefer them, its just I have more in common with white girls and such... besides there are good looking intelligent black women out there, theyre just hard to find
Well I am HORRIFIED that you want to hear a list of unattractive traits of black women.
I am one! and I don't give a f**k what other people could or do think of me. I know who I am, I love myself and people can or can't its that simple. I grew up in a small town and was the only black chick in my school. I didn't date a lot of men in my high school days for my own insecurities as well, but started to a lot more in my late teens. The midset that your thinking you will be one of those ladys. LOVE YOURSELF were all different, many men don't like pencil thin women some do etc. there was a post on here a few weeks ago about a black women who was affraid to go for another race of man and how white men don't like us, and how other black people will look down upon her for not being with one. I'm with a white male and we LOVe each other. Sure we get looks but I don't care they don't know me or him, or how he treats me and if they want to be simple minded than LET THEM. Just the other day I was talking with my boyfriend about rascism and he looked and me and said IT NEVER really occurs to me your black. That's how it should be I'm a person REGARDLESS of my apperience! Were the next generation and do you want our generation to repeat? CHANGE your midset and BE YOUR OWN PERSON. I'm half black and I remember in my teenage years feeling the urge to hang out with more black people, they TOTALLY insulted me callin me white and that the only black thing about me was my hair, and I thought to myself who do you think you are? Its sooo not true that were not desirable to other races because we are! after all a beautiful woman is a beautiful woman!
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Yeah, I wish people would judge me by who I am & not my race. I understand how you feel about black people insulting you because I'm actually mixed too. It's like I never really fit in with any group, but I tend to lean more to the black side because that's what most people perceive me as.
Well if we are desirable to other races, I'm really not seeing it. I mean, I see it on tv and stuff but I see so many black women where I live without husbands or boyfriends, my very own aunt is 38 & single.
i don't even think black girls should date outside their races! just stick to black guys or guys that are mixed with black! I'm black too and just reading these comments pretty much is the reason why you would neeever catch me with a nonblack or at least mixed guy. most people (typically whites and asians) believe everything the media says.
1. black women are ghetto. sure like there are no educated black women that are feminine and come from good homes. and there are no trailer trash white women, or barrio latin women.
2. black women are fat. yes in a country with a 60% obesity rate, only black women are fat. it's not like we come in all shapes and sizes or anything, nope all of us are fat.
3. we have big noses and big lips. I'm guessing they have never seen too many asian people because a lot of them have large wide noses and lips too. also I didn't know all black women look alike and have the same facial features. I guess I must be mixed then because my nose is pointy and my lips are pouty, not oversized.
4. we're all loud. um OK yeah there are no quiet black girls out there. and all white girls are docile and quiet, never obnoxious
seriously with this kinda sh*t I don't even know why black people even date outside their race unless they hate themselves or something. black folks need to stick together because most of the world is biased against us whether they want to admit it or not. also why would you wanna date someone who doesn't have the intelligence to think beyond stereotypes? I don't have to prove myself to anyone. I know who I am and I love black men, other races aren't even on my radar (well maybe except for a few puerto ricans and swirl babies) but other than that no thanks..
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I'm a white guy who hasn't ever been attracted to a black female. I live in the suburbs of a major city which has many black people. As a result, I've grown up with them, and I'm not a racist. Thus, you needn't label me a racist or somebody who is isolated from society. I'm a liberal, and I'm open to all types of people.
Judging from personal experience alone, many, though not all, of the black girls I've encountered have really irritated me. More often than not they're selfish, boisterous, masculine, and ignorant. Virtually all of the black girls who don't fit that stereotype that I know are devout, close-minded Christians. As an atheist, this degree of close-mindedness is a big turn-off.
Personality generalizations aside, there are still some traits that aren't attractive to me. I don't find the hair of most black girls to be attractive. Ebonics, ubiquitous among black people especially around the huge city I live in, is a major turnoff.
Lastly, I find it to be humorous that you ask answers to be honest, but then immediately tell them not to state an idea. I find it highly likely that some people have a natural, non-racist preference when it comes to women; some people like tall women, some people like short women, some people like big breasts/butts, some like those things smaller, some like white women, some like black women. In fact, I bet it's harder for a tall but pretty white girl to get some than an attractive, normal black girl.
My advice: don't think too hard about it. It's actually less of an issue that you're making it out to be. Each person has his own preferences, and there's not really any way you can change that. Work hard to be the best person you can; when people get in your way, keep treading, despite how difficult it can be. Pouting won't get you anywhere.
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I just find it odd how someone can like all other races excluding black women. I can somewhat understand someone having a preference for their own race, but if it's a white guy that likes White, Asian, and Hispanic, that does seem racist to me. When a guy prefers all races except one there usually is some underlying racism there. I don't see what you guys don't understand what's racist about thinking every race is superior to the black women.
I don't understand what is so masculine and selfish about black women. I think black women are the least selfish. Most black girls aren't as privileged as other races of girls, so often times if we have something to spare we will give, and if someone is being mistreated we will stand up for them. I'm totally lost on the masculine thing though. There is some truth to black women being boisterous, but we're not the only one's that are like that.
I don't have the space to discuss ebonics and slang but I will comment about it in one of the answers above.
I never told anyone not to state their ideas. Just because I may not completely agree with it doesn't mean I don't want them to share their opinion. I just want people to own up to their racism instead of trying to be so politically correct. It's just really annoying when a person won't own up to it. Having a racial preference does make you racist (at least when it comes to relationships
Don't tell me it isn't less of an issue than I'm making it. Of course you wouldn't think it's a big issue because it have any effect on you. I'm a black girl (and not even fully black), and my best is not good enough. People are still going to have their twisted perceptions about black girls. I can't even get angry because the minute I do people are going to be like "oh no, the loud angry black girl is at it again being her usual ghetto black self".
There's no way of knowing that your race is the reason that you can't get a man, you're merely assuming. I'm a white, decently attractive man with 99th percentile SAT scores and I can't find a girl. There isn't a logical reason for everything, unfortunate as it is.
Your racial assumptions are "racist" by the way (they're the least selfish you claim).
You distorted my statements or misread completely. I didn't say I found other non-white girls to be more attractive than black women.
Additionally, with regard to the masculinity I attributed to some of the black girls I've met, it's masculinity with regard to attitude, not physical figure. The boisterous, in-your-face attitude is what gives the masculine vibe to me.
Again, as with all the stuff I said, I'm just making generalizations based on personal experience, not laws that apply to all black folk.
You're making sexist, racist assumptions. Why is "loud" masculine?? And are women supposed to walk around in hushed tones, to please your preferences? Why can't girls be just as loud as guys?
Anonymous, you don't seem to like yourself or your race. There are plenty of beautiful black women out there. You just don't see them. Your looking out a small window than the big one. You go to hollywood or other big towns and cities and you will see how beautiful we are. But in small towns and local cities, you won't see too many because your mostly around whites who have a little more money than most black ppl. Just the way it is. So they can up keep themselves better but that's just a small view. ANd the media plays a lot in why people think there's not enough pretty black girls out cause they show the negative sides of black ppl's life. Poor and in the hood. That's not reality at all. And remember if your around whites, your gonna feel that way cause your forced to compare. We are all brainwashed by society to what society say is standard beauty. White skin, straight hair, blues eyes and skinny bodies. That has been programed in our minds through TV and our enviroment that we believe it now.
It is true that most black women have attitudes. y? because of what black women have gone through back in slavery. We were raped by white slaveowners in fron t of our children and inslaved for years that there is pain in a lot of our bloodstreams that have gone down through generations. We were left to raise many children on our own while our man were taking away to do slave work. You see? white people have had it easy when it comes to there ancestors who didn't go through what blks have. Not all blck women but most esp from the ghetto. Some Blk men show there pain through drugs and jail. let it go? Not easy after 400 years of slavery.
Hello, I am a black guy. No matter what black men say, they love black women and find you attractive, certainly physically. In fact many black men who date white women look for white women with the physical attributes of black women. However, beauty is only skin deep.
Many black men, including me, can never seemingly find desirable black women with both kind dispositions and physical attractiveness who will give us the time of day. So the attractiveness issue is personality driven. In general, YOUNG black women make very poor choices in men, presumably due to peer pressure to only date highly sought after black athletes. Most of these alpha guys date 5 women at once and are irresponsible. After getting dumped or divorced from the perfect guy, many black women generalize there poor choice by projecting negativity to every black man. When the next nice guy asks you out, he is typically rejected, ignored, or raked over the coals with some insane questionnaire. A segment of black women are cynical and date only for money. Yet another boatload of black women display self hatred by seeking out white men only for skin color or perceived traits associated with color, and ignore the great black guys all around them. Tamron Hall is an example.
Yet another issue that often arise is the selfish nature of many black women who focus so completely on there education and career. Other groups of women date their men in school and work with them cooperatively towards a future while in school. Black women do not.
That's not fair Tamron Hall is a product of her environment. She is an educated black woman who lived around mostly whites. So who do you think she would date my brother :)
Black people have strong personalities. They are confident and outspoken. I think its because black people have to deal with coming from poor backgrounds than the other race counterparts and thus have to have a stronger personality to deal with difficulties in life. Things are not handed to them on a silver platter. They have to work hard to get out of the hood, get an education and a job and build life for themselves. Nothing is given to them or is made easy for them.
They also have to face racism and preference being shown to others who are white or have naturally strait hair and fair skin. This is genetic for them but black people have to work for all of that by putting on relaxers and weaves.
People should understand that's why black people have strong personality. Because of economic reasons caused by history and genetically they have course hair, dark skin, are curvy and have thick lips.
Even if they are not beautiful in society's standards they are the ones with the most HEART and are SOULFUL. Black people are REAL. Sharing a black persons life journey can only make you more compassionate and appreciate life more. Live life to the fullest and savour every moment.
Black people are beautiful and have beautiful souls! That's why they are rappers, poets and they are emotionally deep.. They have a lot to tell about life. They are gorgeous and magnificent. I should know I am black, intelligent, kind and just too beautiful.
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They're not the least attractive. But you're talking about a predominantly white nation having a preference towards predominantly white women.
It's interesting all the generalizations about black women. A lot of such generalization, like the attitude or the weight, come from how black Americans are socialized by each other and the media. They are still recovering from a past so traumatic is sends ripples through the entire race.
But it's rather ironic to generalize blacks: Nearly all of the genetic variety in the human species is in Africa and in blacks around the world. Europe, for instance, is the most genetically-homogeneous continent on the planet. The Germanic nations even more so.
So you can expect that white people would have a preference for white features. And TBH, the stereotypical black woman (Loud-mouthed, KFC-eating, finger-waving, generously-sized woman.) repulses me to no end. But since when were all black women like that?
Here are some women I find quite attractive:
Aisha Tyler:
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Halle Berry:
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Michelle Obama:
Not as much physically, but I think she's awesome.
Esperanza Spalding:
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To finish it off, I have a question for women, then. What do WOMEN have against Asian men? Asian men seem to be viewed as the least desirable men.
I've heard enough times "How did that Asian guy end up with a white girl? Like THAT can ever happen." To which I reply "Okay, sure...but they get Asian women!"
I PERSONALLY DO NOT have a problem with Asian men. In fact, I am absolutely crazy for them!!! From personal experiences, I have been ridiculed for obsessing with Asian men, from women of different backgrounds. Basically, the stereotypes fall into place. It's sickening... It's from the same women that say, "Men don't like me because I'm too fat, I'm too ugly..." But you just did the same external thinking to that Asian man that could have been amazing, etc. I don't get it. I want my future husband to be Asian, I don't want to talk a lot, but my heart is in Korea; both North and South and I plan I marrying someone from there too <3
Asian men are super sexy, it's just that most of them cannot date outside of their race because of their heritage, so I just assume he's unavailable. It's hard for me to find an Asian boyfriend, and believe me... I want one!
Hah michelle is an intersex person and she's got a penis
I know this is an old post but people are still finding and reading it so here:
Black women are some of the most desirable women in the world. That is why we have been mixed with so many races, French, Spanish, Dutch, etc. Why did so many Slave Masters visit the black woman's coveted vagina? Even in her raw beauty of uncombed hair and ragged cloths made from hemp men of all races found her irresistible. Just take a look at history, not His -Story.
Did white mother raise her little white children? No sir, guess who raise her little white babies? Mamie. You want to know why? Not only was the black woman most desirable for her beauty and sexuality but she was also thought to be better suited as mother to young offspring's of little white children. I could go on and on but I don't have the time. I'm sure I'm going to get a lot of hate but just look at history, it tells it's own story. No hot irons, no make up, in some cases not even a bath! so how did some of us get light and damn near white is she is so undesirable.
It's a part of mental slavery and mental bondage that we need to break away from and recognize the black woman for everything she was, everything she is, and everything she will be. Big Dre
As a black woman, even I have to say that is NOT true; black women are NOT the most desirable women in the world. There is no evidence of this. The most desirable women are Latinas and white women. Period.
I'm white, and I've seen many black girls whose beauty I envied. But any man who would not date a woman based on her appearances alone is shallow.
I've noticed something about the black community, however, and I don't mean to generalize--many times, it seems that black women are viewed in a more demeaning and less respectful way by their own families and communities, with young girls being raised with the mentality that they have to catch a man and keep him happy. This is somewhat less true for whites. Again, I'm generalizing, and correct me if I'm wrong. But I'm a salesclerk and I see and deal with all kinds of people. I've seen black men treat their girlfriends like they were lucky to have any kind of male attention at all. This is as much her problem as it is his. Her acceptance of his treatment of her just perpetuates it.
For an intelligent, educated, and pretty black woman such as you seem to be, you should not have any problem finding someone who values you for who you are.
One last thing--for every rule, there is an exception. For instance, it's thought that most men prefer women with big breasts. And maybe they do, but that isn't stopping the millions of small-breasted women in the world from finding people who love them and value their beauty. So even though you may think that many men find black women unattractive, there are just as many men who think they're beautiful--or who, most importantly, judge women on an individual basis rather than as a group.
VERY insightful...good job :)
I don't know if this has to do with anything. But for instance black woman's hair is curly and look like metal sponges (sorry I don't know the right word). Black woman's hair is not naturally straight like other races. Also think about it, the most appealing colors are always light and brilliant colors, NO dark colors. That's why diamonds are more eye catchy than lets say cold or something of that sort. In metals is the same thing. Gold is more appealing than bronc and other dark colors of metals. Actually for the most part black woman have very strong face features, like really string jaws, big noses and they like. If you see this with white women who for the most part have softer face features, are white skinned or at least much lighter like skin, usually have light color eyes and light color hair then you might see why black girls are not considered as more good looking. That doesn't mean though that girls with dark hair and dark eyes are ugly or average because that;s not true, there is some very good looking dark hair and eyes girls. same for black girls. But if you ask me its mostly their hair, their face features, and the dark color of their skin, its not as eye catchy as white skin, since its less bright. I am not racist, but you asked a very controversial question so I am giving you a very honest answer. Remember the media influences as well, the women that are considered the most are not black women, the media also reinforces that.
That’s a fascinating question.
I guess it comes down to biology. We are just socializing mammals, and for most of human existence, we’ve only lived in small groups. It’s only been in the last 10,000 years or so (a mere blink of the eye in geological timescales) that we’ve started to live in gatherings of more than a few hundred. Back then every group was competing for the same resources, so it made evolutionary sense to be wary of strangers. If somebody wandered into your village, who looked different from your people, they were considered a threat.
So we are genetically predisposed to be attracted to people who look somewhat like us. And to fear those who are different.
In more recent times we’ve been forced to live in bigger and bigger groups and during the last hundred years, in far more diverse groups. Which means that a lot of us have managed to overcome that predisposition,
Personally, I am a white guy living in a very multi-cultural city. I consider myself to be very liberal, and have friends from all races. I have seen plenty of beautiful Black women, Asian women, Mediterranean women, Arabic women... And I recognise their beauty. But I’m not sexually attracted to it.
But there’s absolutely no denying that deep down inside my brain, that I find girls who look like me more attractive than girls who don’t.
I’m sure that black guys find black girls hotter than others
And Asian dudes dig on Asian chicks.
That’s not to say that some people can’t overcome this programming –thank goodness they do. It makes the world a far more interesting place.
ooh BULLSHIT. If you fear those who are different why do you love gingers? I don't see brunettes having issues with blond folk? Bc incase you haven't noticed; many white dudes bitch about Latinas being sexy. So why is that not the same for black women? They are all sick and you are all twisted
Yes, it's true. They are the least desirable people. They have big lips, act all ghetto (that included stupidity and laziness), they make 10+ babies on welfare, big asses, large rolls of fat, pitch dark skin, yellow eyes, flat ugly noses, and they have pubes on their head that they use cholesterol to straighten out their nappy pube-like hair. If they meet any of the criteria above, they're out of here.
I would look for girls with class, intelligence, sense of humor, etc. Black girls hardly meet any of these criteria. Most black girls hang out with wankstas, a type of people whom I despise for their utter stupidity and despicable behavior, who forgo their education just so they can be 'well liked' by their wanksta peers.
In essence, these are my preferences and dislikes. They would sound racist and it could be, but not many people would want a girl with any of those disgusting features like nappy hair or yellow eyes.
Plus, I get plenty of heat from my old fashioned parents. I don't want more of it by bringing a black girl home and then my parents freak out and disown me. The same thing happens if I 'become gay', which will never happen.
Dude you are just way beyond racist.... I could even feel your hatred when I was reading your comment...... poor you ...
Sorry, I can't take your answer seriously.
Your people are nothing more than an inferior hunter-gatherer race. By the way, this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4AcgPHJrUU cracks me up.
Wow too racist!!
Im not racist, I don't know if he is, but damn, that man is completely right. It's just not attractive.
To racists, he is right.
No, I am not a racist. If I were, then I wouldn't be friends with black people. I'm not white, and I have many friends from all different races and ethnicities. I may have black friends, I wouldn't date them cause they're just platonic friends even whey they like me. Things just don't click with them.
Wow you're a horrible person
Yeah I could tell you weren't white.
I know you're trolling but in the case that you arent...
Big lips are undesirable? Since when did only black people have big lips? Last time I checked, fuller lips were attractive to straight males(if you gay then nevermind). See collagen lip injections.
Acting ghetto is due to the ghetto environement. Which is white people that grew up in a "ghetto" environment act ghetto also. It's not a black thing.
Stupidity? Says the guy that believes all of these stereotypes.
If all or most black people were having 10+ kids the birthrate for blacks would be steadily increasing, but according to the US Census there are just enough births to replace the deaths. Which is why the black people are still around 18% of the population of the US.
Once again, since when are big butts undesirable. Straight guys are attracted to curvy women because they are more fertile (again, if you are gay then nevermind).
Americans in general are fat (disregard if you are not American, but I'm sure you are).
I'm not understanding the yellow eyes thing. I'm black, and the sclera of my eyes are white. They're white for all of black people I'm close to except for my aunt, she's a smoker so they're not quite as white as mine. Smokers=yellow eyes, not race.
Asians are more known for having the flatter noses, or lower nose bridges rather (that doesn't make it ugly).
Cholesterol is used to conditioning not straightening, and not only black people use it. Black people do not grow pubic hair on their heads. Pubic hair grows in the pubic region.
If you haven't met a single black girl with class, intelligence, or sense of humor, where you live then you have got to move out asap. Move to the suburbs. Theres's less "wankstas".
At least you acknowledge that you may be racist. Round of applause.
I'm with you, yellow eyes due to smoking are not attractive.
As for the hair thing, black people can get straight hair. My hair is what you may consider "nappy", but it's long and when it's straightened (with a flat iron) it looks just like asian hair. "Nappy" hair is a good thing. It prevented my ancestors from overheating in the sun in Africa. Just like how my asian ancestors have monolids/epicanthic folds to block blowing sand, snow, and the glare of the sun.
What the HELL!! your so racist!! And I ebt you wouldn't dare say this around your friends. You are a f***ing sicko
Generalist...you're the reason why people don't give nice black girls like me a chance, shame on you
I think its hilarious (and all too ironic) when someone this ignorant has the nerve to say he wants an intelligent girl with class. on top of all this he thinks having black friends means he isn't racist. silly rabbit. lol oh well. I love my (beautiful) kinky-nappy-pube-like hair thank you very much! haha
I think that's ridiculous to say an entire group of people are ugly. Everyone looks different. Of course there are similarities. Black women have their assets just like any other race. Full lips, dark eyes, curvy figure. That sounds like today's ideal beauty to me. And I wouldn't worry about fitting in with the ideal beauty anyway, we all know they are impossible standards. What's more ideal is to accept our own beauty, no matter what.
I've not experienced this thing about black women not being as beautiful. Partly because I'm white, so I'm just oblivious to it. But maybe being in a predominately white area they see you as different and unfamiliar and are afraid. When you are at a point in your life to move, look for a place with lots of diversity, you will find accepting people that won't think being black is so different.
My best friend in college was a black girl and she preferred white men. And we noticed that typically white men see black women as "exotic". And she had many dates and boyfriends, but rarely long term relationships because these men were looking to get to have sex with "the black girl".
I really have no clue why all this is, but I wanted to give my most honest answer. I'm sorry you have to experience this, I think black women do have a hard role to play in life, and it makes them stronger and more independent and perhaps superior women.
I also forgot to add my friend is currently in a serious long-term relationship with a white man. So, while in her youth she had more trouble, as she got older men weren't so superficial I guess.
No...they are not afraid of me. They'll be nice to me and be my friend but they won't even consider me or another black girl for a girlfriend.
First off, you're young and once you move out of your town, if you decide to you'll see a difference. I grew up in a predominately black neighborhood. I had white friends but never white boyfriends. I wasn't all that sure if white guys found me attractive but I figured it was their loss if they didn't.
I went into the military and found out that they did. Some white guys like black girls but they do not voice it. I had a white boyfriend and had just as many white and Asian guys hit on me as black guys. Some liked me as a novelty; others liked me because of their personal preference. Most of them liked me for me.
When you describe guys that you like, do you describe their skin tone as dark, pale or tanned. You are stating a preference just like most of us do. The fact that you ask about your question about your Asian half is astounding and racist in itself. Please just deal with the fact that people have preferences and the American media does not do much for African and African American females' self esteem; let alone any women's . Love yourself. Clothes and music choice don't make you white or black and the fact that you will not date a white man because he embraces "urban culture" is a preference and slightly racist as well.
Guys that I like come in various skin tones. I'm not exclusive to just one. I do have preferences in guys but my preferences aren't "racial preferences". I could say 'oh I love brown hair" but brown hair can apply to all races.
And I think you misconstrued a lot of what I said. What was racist about me talking about my asian half? I can and have dealt with people having preferences, I just think that it's a totally illogical way of thinking, but that's just my opinion on it.
Besides, my question isn't even about racial preference, and I really wanted to avoid that because I have a strong disagreement with it. I just wanted deeper reasons behind their so called preference because their reason for their preference is indeed something deeper.
What I meant on the thing about me not liking a white guy that is (I didn't say "embraces" please don't twist my words) *heavily* influenced by hip hop is that a lot of the white guys like that have a preference for black girls.
I obviously don't want to be a preference (or as a "novelty" as you stated above) because not only does that go against what I stand for, but mostly from the fact that I don't want to be his "black" girlfriend, I just want to be his girlfriend. By all means, please tell me how that's racist? Biased maybe but not racist because I like white guys. Now if I had wrote off all (or most) white guys as being undesirable then you could tell me I'm a racist.
I made the statement because yyou attribute the fact that the white guys that you have been around don't want to date you because your part black. Did it ever occur to you that that may not be all there is to it? Preferences are not all illogical. They are a way of continuing the human race regardless of your ethnicity or cultural background. A fiar number of preferences are actualy based on perceptions and markers of fertility in humans i.e. big boobs, curvy hips, broad shoulders, deep voice.
Some of the preferences are pushed by the media to the detriment of certain races i.e. fiar skin, blue eyes. You question is about racial preference because, the fact is most people desire people of their own race first. There is nothing racist about talking about your asian half but there is some underlying self hatred when you basically have nothing positive to say about your black half either.
Most of the white guys I've been around have made it very clear that they don't like black girls, which has nothing to do with me because they won't date any black girl whether it's me or another black girl. Once again, I didn't say preferences are illogical, I said that "racial: preferences are illogical. I could even argue that there is no such thing as race, only culture (which anyone can belong to). Okay if they desire thair own race first I think that is fair enough for me.
But so many non-black (and even a lot black guys) put black women on the bottom of their list of "preferences". Some guys will even say "everything except black". I am not making this up. Look around the web, youtube, televisions shows such as tyra banks, or even pay a visit to where I live and you'd see why I'm saying this. I could say a lot of good things about being black & black people as a whole, & I could say a lot of bad about being asian, but this topic is specifically about black girls.
What I've noticed is that when people find/realize I'm 1/2 asian they want to be my friend, and my non-black friends always have something nice to say about me being asian, but I never get any compliments about being black ever. I think black women are extremely beautiful (that might be a bit of bias since I am considered black), but the whole reason why I ask this question is because most people don't seem to think the same.
Im being honest here and I beleive that black girls light skin or dark are just as attractive as any other race of women. I think statistically black women marry less because in general which I may be wrong on, they are the most likely to remain dating only within their race without wantign to branch out and explore other races of men. I'm guessing you live in the U.S. where people are much more heaviliy influeneced by media then most other foreign countries. where I live in england. its not reallyso much of a big deal we do have influence from america here but not so much. I'm part brazilian and part italian which stereotypically says I like black women, I guess that holds true for me as all flavours of sugar are just as sweet, but from man to man it varies, maybe the guys where you lvie are a little nervous to be different and branch out from what is the norm. I'm sure a lot of the guys where you lvie find youvery attractive but they may feel a little held back. just show them that you are not the generalised type of black girl that is portrayed in media, just be yoruself and they will love you
Good Luck, God Bless
Do you think it's because black women from England are different than American black women? What do you think non-black men in America have against black women?
All of the black girls at my college (though they are few in number), are very feminine, mild-mannered, intelligent, and quirky. I have never met a black girl that fits the stereotype. Sure I've met some black girls that love to laugh and talk loudly but how is being happy and vivacious a bad thing?
Maybe that is sorta true as england and america do have their cultural differences so we tend to act and think of things a little different I guess. where I live in the UK there are black girls but every single one I have met and know does not fit into the stereotype whatsoever, actually the only one who even remotely fits in with it is a biracial girl but she is nothing bad. so I guess guys are less put off by the black girls. the men in england that don't like black girls, although they may
Not want to go out with the, they don't tend to put them down either and it doesn't stop them being freinds with them. I think the guys in america who are non black have somethingn against black girls because unless someone knows the truth, they are usually going to go with what they hear. as these non black guys hear a lot of general stereotypes about black girls put out, they tend to most likely beleive they are true unless given the chance to be proven otherwise.
So I think it may just be bad judgement of character as the reason they choose to have somethign against them and also there is a beleif that white guys are likely to stick to white women while black women are likely to stick to black men while the opposite is not true. so I think black girls are put off into thinkin a white guy won't like them and a white guy is put of into thinking that a black girl won't like them as it is not generally as publicised. :)
I would like to start by stating I am not racist. I find beauty in various women of all ethnic backgrounds. However, I cannot deny that some races have a higher percentage of attractive women than others.
Although I do agree that black women are generally not as attractive as other women, I don't think its a simple matter of skin color. In fact, dark skin is a turn on for me. I've noticed generally ugliness is determined more by body type and facial structure. If you compare faces of people from different countries, there are undeniable differences in placement and size of various bones in the face.
For me, the aesthetic traits most common in the faces of black women are less appealing then those from other races. Another major factor to take into consideration is stereotypes. I'm sure you know what I mean. Big butts, loud demanding attitudes, uneducated, etc.. I realize that not every black women fits the stereotypes, but there are a lot who do.
There are plenty of black women who don't fit the stereotypes and are quite beautiful. I'm pretty sure most people can agree on this. If you are "pretty compared to most black girls" as you say, I'm sure you're pretty compared to anyone else. If you don't fit the stereotypes, are pretty, and have trouble finding a boyfriend... You might try being a little big more aggressive. Show that guy you like that you are not like all those black women who give you a bad name.
My apologies if you find this offensive. I am just trying to be honest. Again, I am not racist and there are many black women who I find to be very sexy.
I'm glad you brought this up because some white women tan to a lighter black complexion and sometimes darker so I agree its not about the color believe it or not which is what I think most people jump to the conclusion it is. It is about the stereotypes, and I will admit some truths, about black women and black people in general and what you see for yourself in your future.
YOU are the only white guy here that sounds educated. You hit the nail on the head. Yiur answers are very well put together and make sense, not just some result of brainwashing and too much TV/racism. I'm a black girl . I don't have a thin pinocchio nose but its not huge I'm pretty and slim( most white girls are sloppy compared to me) My butt is bubbly not huge and I can't stop getting compliments from white guys eveyday on the train. I'm college educated and NOT loud I have no problems with guys
I have seen gorgeous black girls, and I am white. I suspect some of what you still run into is families would rather their child bring home mates of the same race and religion syndrome. I also beleive these trends are getting weaker for every generation. In my grandparents day, you would not have seen races mixing or playing, in my day there was more mixing. In the couple of generations after me there is far more mixing going on. I like this trend, but we are not completely there yet. In my case I went to a fairly unsegregated mixed school, if your school is predominantly white this will likely cause more issues for you.
But, perhaps you can help a bit, have you looked within. I am not accusing you of being raciest, but perhaps hurt by it and therefore sending out unintended messages. I don' t blame you for your feelings, but is it in part due to crutches, excuses, or self pity? We all have and will experience biases, whether its race, abilities, religion, physical characteristics, somewhere we will all experience it. . I find the best to pretend it does not exist, move on, and be better. Do whatever things you can to do to minimize the issues. You might have to extend yourself a bit more in social networks, I suspect things will come around for you better if you do this. .
Well,I think that the reason most white guys stick to a girl of their race is because they are more similiar.A lot of times,when you like someone its for the qualities that match your own.As for the black guys,I have no idea what is going on inside their heads and have no explanation for their actions.Black girls are most defidentally NOT ugly.I've seen many beautiful black women.Dont degrade yourself by comparing yourself to todays beauty standards because what they call 'beautiful' is sometimes mud ugly.If they said roadkill was beautiful people would believe them.And it is not just black girls that catch the crap,its anyone that looks different in general.It could be the way you dress,the color of your skin,facial shape,hell,it could even be your socks! But,people are shallow and judgemental,just ignore them.I know its hard,trust me,I know.You know what though? You are better off in the end.Its not just racism its shallow-ness(if that's a word).I am white and I know there is no excuse for what they are doing.Just remember we are not all like that.Boost your confidence up,girl,it'll get better!
I really hope I helped.
You are so nice.! :))
I guess you're right about the similarities thing, but honestly most of the black girls in my neighborhood are like the white girls. We all grew up in the same environment so other that appearance, we are all the same.
Actually, I've moved on past this whole complex of mine. I still think about it sometimes but it's not a big deal to me anymore. My self-esteem is much better now even though nothing has really changed other than that (I still don't have a bf), but thanks so much for your answer
No problem and I'm glad your self-esteem is better. =)
Well in my area it was predominantly white and I didn't really know much different. All I could really see what was on tv or what I was told (obnoxious, loud, ghetto, strongly opinionated). Eventually there were a few black kids went to my school K-8 ( I was in 6th or 7th grade when the first black kid came. He wasn't treated different then any other kid and was actually quite popular.
Anyway at my high school there was a small number of black people and they weren't once again treated any different. However they did play into the stereotypes that were given to most African Americans ( two guys played basketball and were good, were players with the ladies, etc.) and there was another few that actually rapped. They did it at one of our assemblies. The girls there were loud and strongly opinionated. I didn't know of any in my year in high school (actually one I lied) and only saw what the younger and older ones did and acted.
I'm in college and have a black friend. We hang out all the time.
Anyway in the dining hall every once in a while I will be eating when a ruckus starts and breaks the traditional dull roar of the dining complex. There is a table of black people who start pounding out a beat and start yelling and dancing and disrupting people's dinner (I think it is awesome and really funny, especially since people get so bugged by anything that breaks the ordinary) . Anyway so this is what I see to be the typical black girl. I am more of a shy guy and do not think that a loud, strong opinionated lady would fit me well. Therefore I prefer white girls I guess you could say. I don't think I am racist but there are trends that I have noticed. I try to give everyone a shot at being a friend before ruling them out. I feel it is only fair.
Hmm, well what if it were a black girl that was equally shy as you? A lot of the black women in my family are very loud, but none of the black girls I know that are my age are like that. Hispanic women are loud and very opinionated as well. How come no one says anything about that? I think that a lot of times, if something is known for being a black thing (rapping. basketball, etc), people will turn it into a negative thing even if it's positive.
Well for me I don't really like the loud Hispanic girls as well. However you didn't ask about other races. I don't like white super loud girls. It isn't the race it is the personality or characteristics.
i actually wrote a paper on rap and hip hop music back in high school that I got an A+ on btw
black women get the bad rap that they get because these so called "new school" rappers like 50 cent, degrade women to make them look like sex objects and moneymakers... of course women are not like that, especially after the womens movement of the 70's. "old school" rap didn't do this. sugarhill gang, I mean come on I don't think you ever hear the B word in there, yet in songs like "get low" you hear the M------F--- word.
to white guys, black women just don't do it for us, I dk y really, its just got to do with how we are attracted to a specific thing for a long time and you can't change it just like that "snaps fingers" it'd be like taking an animal out of its territory and putting it somewhere unknown, its not gonna know how to act around that new territory.
thats not to say ALL white men don't like black women. I for one, would not mind at least trying it out, just to see what it'd be like. I mean afterall black women are just as equal as white women, they just have different tastes in different things, so maybe you're attracted to that black woman for her tastes/looks, ya know?
so yeah, don't get so down on yourself if you really would like to date a white guy, there are white guys out there who like and maybe even prefer black women.
thats my preach of the day
thanks for listening
Yeah, there's some truth to what you said.
I hate [most] rappers.
Well I think if white guys were around black girls more, they'd start to like them. Social conditioning.
White guys don't even talk to me unless their gay or one of those white guys that are heavily influenced by hip hop (not that there's anything wrong with that), but normal white guys don't, even though I'm not even into hip hop.
The thing is, I don't want a white guy that "prefers" black girls. Racial preferences are stupid.
Yeah I see what you mean, cause if they say they don't prefer them, it makes them seem like theyre settling for less than the best, its not that I don't prefer them, its just I have more in common with white girls and such... besides there are good looking intelligent black women out there, theyre just hard to find
Yeah, I'll have to agree with you on that.
Rap music and TV brainwash many black girls, it just seems like the numbers are endless,
But if you really wanted to, you'll find us well-mannered black girls from time to time....we're around more than you think
Where can I find them, haha
Well for a start, look for the black girls sans blond or rainbow weave.....build off from there however you want
Yeah, I'd say that's a GREAT starting point....you're on the road to finding one of us...haha
(but DONT be mistaken...
Well I am HORRIFIED that you want to hear a list of unattractive traits of black women.
I am one! and I don't give a f**k what other people could or do think of me. I know who I am, I love myself and people can or can't its that simple. I grew up in a small town and was the only black chick in my school. I didn't date a lot of men in my high school days for my own insecurities as well, but started to a lot more in my late teens. The midset that your thinking you will be one of those ladys. LOVE YOURSELF were all different, many men don't like pencil thin women some do etc. there was a post on here a few weeks ago about a black women who was affraid to go for another race of man and how white men don't like us, and how other black people will look down upon her for not being with one. I'm with a white male and we LOVe each other. Sure we get looks but I don't care they don't know me or him, or how he treats me and if they want to be simple minded than LET THEM. Just the other day I was talking with my boyfriend about rascism and he looked and me and said IT NEVER really occurs to me your black. That's how it should be I'm a person REGARDLESS of my apperience! Were the next generation and do you want our generation to repeat? CHANGE your midset and BE YOUR OWN PERSON. I'm half black and I remember in my teenage years feeling the urge to hang out with more black people, they TOTALLY insulted me callin me white and that the only black thing about me was my hair, and I thought to myself who do you think you are? Its sooo not true that were not desirable to other races because we are! after all a beautiful woman is a beautiful woman!
Yeah, I wish people would judge me by who I am & not my race. I understand how you feel about black people insulting you because I'm actually mixed too. It's like I never really fit in with any group, but I tend to lean more to the black side because that's what most people perceive me as.
Well if we are desirable to other races, I'm really not seeing it. I mean, I see it on tv and stuff but I see so many black women where I live without husbands or boyfriends, my very own aunt is 38 & single.
Be your own identity, you don't have to conform.
you considered travelling? that might broaden your perspective a bit.
You have to remember (Question Asker) that they are individuals.
They aren't single because of their race.
It had something to do with their personality.
They just happen to be black.
I'm sure every female that's not black in your town isn't married.
So why point out how the black women aren't married?
Some women period just aren't attractive or desired, not the whole race.
Those forums only have opinions.
Sincerely,
A Loving Black Man
i don't even think black girls should date outside their races! just stick to black guys or guys that are mixed with black! I'm black too and just reading these comments pretty much is the reason why you would neeever catch me with a nonblack or at least mixed guy. most people (typically whites and asians) believe everything the media says.
1. black women are ghetto. sure like there are no educated black women that are feminine and come from good homes. and there are no trailer trash white women, or barrio latin women.
2. black women are fat. yes in a country with a 60% obesity rate, only black women are fat. it's not like we come in all shapes and sizes or anything, nope all of us are fat.
3. we have big noses and big lips. I'm guessing they have never seen too many asian people because a lot of them have large wide noses and lips too. also I didn't know all black women look alike and have the same facial features. I guess I must be mixed then because my nose is pointy and my lips are pouty, not oversized.
4. we're all loud. um OK yeah there are no quiet black girls out there. and all white girls are docile and quiet, never obnoxious
seriously with this kinda sh*t I don't even know why black people even date outside their race unless they hate themselves or something. black folks need to stick together because most of the world is biased against us whether they want to admit it or not. also why would you wanna date someone who doesn't have the intelligence to think beyond stereotypes? I don't have to prove myself to anyone. I know who I am and I love black men, other races aren't even on my radar (well maybe except for a few puerto ricans and swirl babies) but other than that no thanks..
I'm a white guy who hasn't ever been attracted to a black female. I live in the suburbs of a major city which has many black people. As a result, I've grown up with them, and I'm not a racist. Thus, you needn't label me a racist or somebody who is isolated from society. I'm a liberal, and I'm open to all types of people.
Judging from personal experience alone, many, though not all, of the black girls I've encountered have really irritated me. More often than not they're selfish, boisterous, masculine, and ignorant. Virtually all of the black girls who don't fit that stereotype that I know are devout, close-minded Christians. As an atheist, this degree of close-mindedness is a big turn-off.
Personality generalizations aside, there are still some traits that aren't attractive to me. I don't find the hair of most black girls to be attractive. Ebonics, ubiquitous among black people especially around the huge city I live in, is a major turnoff.
Lastly, I find it to be humorous that you ask answers to be honest, but then immediately tell them not to state an idea. I find it highly likely that some people have a natural, non-racist preference when it comes to women; some people like tall women, some people like short women, some people like big breasts/butts, some like those things smaller, some like white women, some like black women. In fact, I bet it's harder for a tall but pretty white girl to get some than an attractive, normal black girl.
My advice: don't think too hard about it. It's actually less of an issue that you're making it out to be. Each person has his own preferences, and there's not really any way you can change that. Work hard to be the best person you can; when people get in your way, keep treading, despite how difficult it can be. Pouting won't get you anywhere.
I just find it odd how someone can like all other races excluding black women. I can somewhat understand someone having a preference for their own race, but if it's a white guy that likes White, Asian, and Hispanic, that does seem racist to me. When a guy prefers all races except one there usually is some underlying racism there. I don't see what you guys don't understand what's racist about thinking every race is superior to the black women.
I don't understand what is so masculine and selfish about black women. I think black women are the least selfish. Most black girls aren't as privileged as other races of girls, so often times if we have something to spare we will give, and if someone is being mistreated we will stand up for them. I'm totally lost on the masculine thing though. There is some truth to black women being boisterous, but we're not the only one's that are like that.
I don't have the space to discuss ebonics and slang but I will comment about it in one of the answers above.
I never told anyone not to state their ideas. Just because I may not completely agree with it doesn't mean I don't want them to share their opinion. I just want people to own up to their racism instead of trying to be so politically correct. It's just really annoying when a person won't own up to it. Having a racial preference does make you racist (at least when it comes to relationships
Don't tell me it isn't less of an issue than I'm making it. Of course you wouldn't think it's a big issue because it have any effect on you. I'm a black girl (and not even fully black), and my best is not good enough. People are still going to have their twisted perceptions about black girls. I can't even get angry because the minute I do people are going to be like "oh no, the loud angry black girl is at it again being her usual ghetto black self".
There's no way of knowing that your race is the reason that you can't get a man, you're merely assuming. I'm a white, decently attractive man with 99th percentile SAT scores and I can't find a girl. There isn't a logical reason for everything, unfortunate as it is.
Your racial assumptions are "racist" by the way (they're the least selfish you claim).
You distorted my statements or misread completely. I didn't say I found other non-white girls to be more attractive than black women.
Additionally, with regard to the masculinity I attributed to some of the black girls I've met, it's masculinity with regard to attitude, not physical figure. The boisterous, in-your-face attitude is what gives the masculine vibe to me.
Again, as with all the stuff I said, I'm just making generalizations based on personal experience, not laws that apply to all black folk.
You're making sexist, racist assumptions. Why is "loud" masculine?? And are women supposed to walk around in hushed tones, to please your preferences? Why can't girls be just as loud as guys?
Anonymous, you don't seem to like yourself or your race. There are plenty of beautiful black women out there. You just don't see them. Your looking out a small window than the big one. You go to hollywood or other big towns and cities and you will see how beautiful we are. But in small towns and local cities, you won't see too many because your mostly around whites who have a little more money than most black ppl. Just the way it is. So they can up keep themselves better but that's just a small view. ANd the media plays a lot in why people think there's not enough pretty black girls out cause they show the negative sides of black ppl's life. Poor and in the hood. That's not reality at all. And remember if your around whites, your gonna feel that way cause your forced to compare. We are all brainwashed by society to what society say is standard beauty. White skin, straight hair, blues eyes and skinny bodies. That has been programed in our minds through TV and our enviroment that we believe it now.
It is true that most black women have attitudes. y? because of what black women have gone through back in slavery. We were raped by white slaveowners in fron t of our children and inslaved for years that there is pain in a lot of our bloodstreams that have gone down through generations. We were left to raise many children on our own while our man were taking away to do slave work. You see? white people have had it easy when it comes to there ancestors who didn't go through what blks have. Not all blck women but most esp from the ghetto. Some Blk men show there pain through drugs and jail. let it go? Not easy after 400 years of slavery.
Hello, I am a black guy. No matter what black men say, they love black women and find you attractive, certainly physically. In fact many black men who date white women look for white women with the physical attributes of black women. However, beauty is only skin deep.
Many black men, including me, can never seemingly find desirable black women with both kind dispositions and physical attractiveness who will give us the time of day. So the attractiveness issue is personality driven. In general, YOUNG black women make very poor choices in men, presumably due to peer pressure to only date highly sought after black athletes. Most of these alpha guys date 5 women at once and are irresponsible. After getting dumped or divorced from the perfect guy, many black women generalize there poor choice by projecting negativity to every black man. When the next nice guy asks you out, he is typically rejected, ignored, or raked over the coals with some insane questionnaire. A segment of black women are cynical and date only for money. Yet another boatload of black women display self hatred by seeking out white men only for skin color or perceived traits associated with color, and ignore the great black guys all around them. Tamron Hall is an example.
Yet another issue that often arise is the selfish nature of many black women who focus so completely on there education and career. Other groups of women date their men in school and work with them cooperatively towards a future while in school. Black women do not.
That's not fair Tamron Hall is a product of her environment. She is an educated black woman who lived around mostly whites. So who do you think she would date my brother :)
As for the rest of what you said i agree.
Black people have strong personalities. They are confident and outspoken. I think its because black people have to deal with coming from poor backgrounds than the other race counterparts and thus have to have a stronger personality to deal with difficulties in life. Things are not handed to them on a silver platter. They have to work hard to get out of the hood, get an education and a job and build life for themselves. Nothing is given to them or is made easy for them.
They also have to face racism and preference being shown to others who are white or have naturally strait hair and fair skin. This is genetic for them but black people have to work for all of that by putting on relaxers and weaves.
People should understand that's why black people have strong personality. Because of economic reasons caused by history and genetically they have course hair, dark skin, are curvy and have thick lips.
Even if they are not beautiful in society's standards they are the ones with the most HEART and are SOULFUL. Black people are REAL. Sharing a black persons life journey can only make you more compassionate and appreciate life more. Live life to the fullest and savour every moment.
Black people are beautiful and have beautiful souls! That's why they are rappers, poets and they are emotionally deep.. They have a lot to tell about life. They are gorgeous and magnificent.
I should know I am black, intelligent, kind and just too beautiful.