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8-19% body fat is considered healthy, so I don't get your point about health. Some people can get abs really easily, others can't. It is largely based on genetics. I agree that it is unrealistic for most men, but it is not unhealthy, assuming done right.
I think your natural resting body fat % is healthiest for each person. That varies per individual.
Usually that will be about 'skinny-fat' 🤷🏻♂️.
with a thin layer of fat all over the body. Covering the chest, abs and back.
They're supposed to be promoting something? Shit.. I must live under a rock. If fitness levels change anything in a man... It's the testosterone which then leads to other mental issues, more notably anger and/or aggressiveness.
Personally I haven't been 15-20% body fat since I was maybe 8 years old. Around that time my body began its hyper metabolism.
are you a medical person?
can i see your doctors degree in sports science?
mens health (and shape for women) was actually started by the weider bros in Canada. (YES those weider brothers) they dedicated their lives to mens & womens health. the movie was called bigger. you should watch it everybody should watch it.
I think its horrid that they allow both men and women to starve themselves to get to these weights and end up photoshopping them in the end anyway
Yes, but when it comes to sexual attraction many people still favor this look. So it's something that your generation could actually work on changing.
My generation is into eboys and vsco girls so I'm pretty sure fashion standards will widely change bu my late 20s
Why would you have to starve yourself? They eat healthy balanced diet.
I got ultra lean twice, and both times I did dunk tank and caliper testing. At 10% boyfriend I felt like a god. At 7% I felt like warmed-over death. Low boyfriend is either drug-aided or a certain way to push your body into extreme stress.
Ironic that this site translates boyfriend to "boyfriend."
Yeah my bodyfat dipped pretty low recently as well and I felt like shit. horrible. After Christmas it went up significantly, but I'm tweaking my meals to stay right about the 15% mark or so.
For me getting carbs from quinoa and fats from salmon is the only way I know how to stay actually lean.
Eating rice or avacados literally causes bodyfat increases overnight. But I can lose it overnight by not eating those fooda as well. My metabolism is wild fast.
ha "bf" to "boyfriend"
Tell us about your boyfriend ;)
Metabolism is the real indicator of how well your body is handling the state you've put it in. Metabolic damage is real. I've read a few accounts of people who've caused themselves long-term metabolic issues with restrictive diets and maintained low body fat. Female IFBB competitors seem to have this issue a lot, because they'll try to maintain low body fat to do multiple shows in succession. The result is that hormones that regulate hunger and fullness get so far out of balance that their stasis state is permanently altered. Some people are lucky and are blessed with bodies that naturally want to be lean, but for the rest of us, it's easy to see how dieting can cause a significant slowdown in the metabolism.
The fact of the matter is, a visible 6 pack is more aesthetically pleasing. And although you can have a high percent of body fat and still be strong, it's still not the ideal look. When someone sees a 6 pack they assume the person is strong, which is generally true as the person usually has to workout and diet to attain that form.
I've seen a correlation that thicker people tend to be attracted to thicker bodies and that's fine. We're attracted to similarities and familiarities. It still doesn't change what the general population finds attractive.
Lazy butthurt people can cry about it more.
I'm not sure how you and I grew up in the same generation and have vastly different opinions.
Wait you're telling me that everyone in our generation have the same opinions? You really need to get some common sense lol. People have differing views regardless of age, culture, etc. I'm sure I disagree with you on more than one matter.
The 18-20% guy is passable. Anything less looks sickly.
Fourteen to 17 looks great. That 18-20 guy looks a bit soft around the middle. 13 percent and lower is overdone... The only reason to get that lean would be if you're a competitive marathon or other Olympic level athlete.
Or if you wanna be on the cover of a magazine, or if you wanna be a male model.
Or if you want to have a shirtless scene in a romantic or action movie.
@Boppy There's no need to go below 13 percent, even for an action flick like the Avengers series. That guy is cut up enough. And actually male models are not ripped. They're usually naturally thin guys who don't have much muscle development. Fitness models might get to that 10 percent. Weight lifters in competition get low too. But those guys are practically fainting because they have no body fat. It's absurd.
Oh, yeah, it's not needed for sure. I think it's considered necessary for those industries, though. Hugh Jackman talked a lot about his four-day fast before the shirtless scene in the latest Wolverine movie.
He did talk a lot about it, though, so maybe it was actually uncommon and he was just bragging...
"Male models are not ripped. They're usually naturally thin guys...", I think this statement is very insensitive. Tbh it's the same as me saying "female models aren't that beautiful, they are usually naturally thin women who wear a lot of makeup.", this completely discounts the work these people have done to make their body look that way. Male and female models alike have to work for their body, sometimes that means working out, sometimes that means starving yourself, that goes for both genders. In my opinion, summarizing the modelling industry to "naturally thin people" is not only insensitive, it's incorrect.
by the way Chris Evans, aka captain america, has a body fat of 8% he was 12.5% before working for Marvel
Robert downey jr. Has a regiment he follows for gaining and losing weight because he was expected to be thinner in Sherlock and more muscular in iron man.
www.coachmag.co.uk/.../captain-america-s-heroic-legs-workout
It's true that under 10% isn't really healthy for extended periods of time. I've done it. And my face looked like Skelator when I did. This is just more pressure we guys get from the media. I doo workout all the time though. I stay now in the 12-14% range and I'm content with that.
The trick to abs is low bf% but it doesn't have to be sub 10%. The other half is having big ab muscles to poke through the fat. If you aren't doing high volume weighted ab exercises you are flat. Im at like 18% boyfriend but my abs look way more like the other pics. Im usually around 14% stable but I've been injured and put on a little weight.
Body image issues affect everyone.
Bullying affects everyone. Unrealistic standards and perfectionsim affect everyone.
So why do feminists so often pretend that these issues are women's issues? They complain about women on magazine covers and pretend the same thing doesn't happen to men.
@devilman666 which "feminists"? Thats like asking why do christians all hate gay people, they dont. Some do, and some are very vocal about it, but they represent only themselves.
Preach it! Men's Health mags need to get their shit together and have a look at the reality of things.
Abs do not define you. Your health does.
Thanks, but things like this are still the normal: https://youtu.be/IOCOEU5etf4
And so are the girls' reactions. And nobody has said that in these responses yet.
So, and to be clear, I'm a big fan of Conner. I know his story and he really got into fitness because he was an awkward geeky kid who was bad with women. He learned that by lifting weights girls would like him more and he dedicated his life to that end and now has a fitness channel and that's how he makes money. But it's really extreme.
Connor*
The cut girl with the long hair and the black long sleeve shirt was the nicest. Less is more sometimes. She only asked to see a little.
@sejla I guess so. I don't want to say the girls in this video are bad people because I don't think they're even close to that. They all seem like regular girls, and actually I've seen way worse attitudes IRL mostly with respect to being snobbish.
But, a lot of what they're doing, if a guy did it, would not be acceptable. Like the snack on the ass, the liking the arm, the touching the stomach.
Imagine a random guy runs up on the sidewalk smacking a hot girl's ass and then just shaking it off with giggles. Or sneaking up to lick her from behind. Ir just putting a hand on her stomach. I mean, 🤷🏻♂️lol right? That's like straight to jail territory.
So I mean it's really two things. It's because he has this style of body and accompanying meal plans that he gets this attention, which drives other guys to run calorie deficits, and also it's the reactions to this behavior.
I still feel like there is a middle ground in there. I wonder most, biologically, why a starving male is sexually appealing -- that's the big question number one for me right now. Answering that would help answer all the other things.
Also I don't hate this, I like that it gives men the ability to become sexual objects if they want to. It's just a catch 22 for different reasons.
the licking was way over the top. I don't like women to do stuff and then complain how men are slime.
It's ok to have a noticeable 6 pack if the rest of the body is in shape. But all too often they just look like they need a square meal
Yeah that's because it requires a calorie deficit to achieve which causes the starving look. Because they actually are starving.
That's why I question the healthiness of visible abs.
It's not realistic to have a full on set of abs and huge muscles.. And there is a lot of discipline and sacrifice involved in body building.
To be honest, it's not even a turn on..
What's a turn on?
Not telling you... Still running 🏃
Come on goddess! Tell me what will make you stop running?
Hmmm 🤔 good question!
Maybe if you answer my 22 questions, then I'll think about stopping..
Okay! Ask me whatever you want.
Ouch. Believe it or not, with a simple diet and exercise routine fitness is possibe. The Mary Mcmeth diet works too.
Not a turn on for you. You don't speak for all women. They usually love my 8 pack on <12% body fat.
They also dehydrate themselves to take off water weaght a lot of the time. I don't want abs and I'm not interested in changing my look to please others but i want to be skinnier and i think that's ok.
Overly executed -emm- body fitness and 'mental health' don't go well together.
Nothing wrong with keeping an eye on a healthy and functioning body.
But to shape it to other versions than 'natural' is stupid vanity.
That's why I like to see that natural body builders who don't look frightening. Their look appears achieveable and attractive.
Apparently, to make muscles really ‘pop out’, people also dehydrate themselves. Like Henry Cavill mentioned that for some scenes he’d go for 4 days with very little water so that the muscles stand out a bit more. Obviously unhealthy.
Some folks are mesomorphs: heavily muscled, and they can get the fit look more easily. Some are smoother muscled... Everybody can't do it like the photos.
They look good but I agree with the health concerns.
10-15% looks best to me and it is not hard to maintain. It is like 20-25% for women and I as a woman have no issues in staying in that range...
From the guys above the 14-17 is what I prefer, but I doubt he is above 15% anyway.
You think 10% isn't hard to maintain?
Aha, cool story. 20-25 is too low for women anyways, I mean some are into bones and stuff but most aren't.
20-25% isn't low for women. 25% is average... most young slim women would fit into that range
And I didn't say 10%, I gave you a range.
If you are not motivated to look that way don't get mad I say i prefer that. The way the second guy looks is maintainable.
I don't care
Besides... girls want something to grab onto too sometimes. My guy is strong but has some chub. He is slightly insecure about it because his friends are like 10-13%, but I prefer my man any day