@Mesonfielde they're stuck inside when they're like that. They have nurse home visits too. Some can't even move. They aren't like those "fattest in the world" people, but they can't really move. And it's getting worse. And the kids... some are in a terrible situation. And day to day, look on any typical high Street and there will be lots and lots of fat, chubby or getting fat people. Lots. We are not a slim continent. I am in the UK, predicted to be the fattest in Europe within a decade, so maybe my perception is skewed because I think we have more here, but I do also regularly visit Germany (a few times a year) and go to France and Spain sometimes and also see lots of fat people. I don't know why anybody would think Europeans are "slim and pretty" when it's really not the case. It's just on TV. Just like all Americans have huge houses, but it's just on TV.
They eat healthy food not junk and exercise a lot, at least where I live in Germany they do this. Park is full of woman running, gyms too they don't eat fast food and junk
The sugar industry has been DESPERATELY trying to fund studies that actually find adverse effects of artificial sweeteners on health... and, still, after almost 40 years, NO such adverse effects have EVER been found.
jacquesvol - I know how much "more" sugar we're consuming in regular ones. But some studies say, even "no sugar" products have adverse effects. Like, they spike up insulin levels making your body to store fat.
@redeyemindtricks So, the studies claiming the adverse effects are false? I've discussed this with a bodybuilder here and he said he takes diet soda and he has the best abs here. End of the discussion lol
@YourFutureEx They don't spike insulin. Click on my link -- I actually specifically addressed that.
For *some* unfortunate people, artificial sweeteners can increase cravings for actual sugar (this seems to be caused by neurotransmitters in the pleasure/reward centers of the brain, not by anything having to do with metabolism/digestion/storage). But, even those people will be fine, as long as they don't *actually* start consuming actual sugar.
Bodybuilders can get away with consuming tons of sugar, especially in the immediate post-workout period. But yes, they can *cut* on artificial sweeteners. I work with plenty of fitness models who knock down 10+ Diet Cokes a day when they're cutting for a photo shoot.
@redeyemindtricks thanks! :) So, I worked very hard to cut my sugar intake. And I used to consume 300-500 ml regular soda daily. But now, I'm fine without soda or sugar in particular. So, what would you recommend? Should I take diet soda (to give my body some sweet rewards and mental boosts) or to not to consume it at all as I can live without it?
@YourFutureEx The point of the artificially sweetened drinks is to take care of that sort of taste craving, in a way that doesn't involve actual sugar.
The other good reason is to help people stay hydrated. (Some people simply won't drink enough, if water is the only fluid they allow themselves.)
If you have neither of these issues, then there's no real reason to *introduce* artificial sweeteners into yr diet.
Could it also be because the culture is not filled with instant gratification and people like to cook their own food rather than picking it up at fast food places?
When I visited US everything was super sweet, even the bread. In Europe we dont eat so much sweet suff, we drink more water than soda and a lot of european people live outside big cities and have small gardens etc where they spend a lot of their energy. Healthy people usualy dont use wheelchairs for handicapped people (or whatever you call those scooters) and we rather walk.
@BubbleBoy69 Agreed, that's why I said genetics and hard work. Americans have the genetics, but many don't put the hard work. I still think American women are the hottest though.
When I lived in Milan (and traveled all over Europe), I literally *never* met ANY European woman who exercised for the sake of health, or for the sake of exercising itself.
@BubbleBoy69 They basically didn't, other than the day-to-day walking and "active" stuff.
Men didn't, really, either. It's just not a thing, in the culture. Things are changing a LITTLE bit now, but, for the most part, the idea of "going to the gym" or "going for a run" seems literally insane over there.
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They eat slow and eating is for socializing not to just eat. They eat and talk for three hours and focus more on the topic than the food
Lol.. How many times have you been to Europe? Not a ton I'm guessing.
Once
There are tons of fat people.
But the fat people generally aren't nearly as fat as the obese in America.
I don't know of anyone here who needs a butt buddy to wipe their own ass.
@Mesonfielde they're stuck inside when they're like that. They have nurse home visits too. Some can't even move. They aren't like those "fattest in the world" people, but they can't really move. And it's getting worse. And the kids... some are in a terrible situation.
And day to day, look on any typical high Street and there will be lots and lots of fat, chubby or getting fat people. Lots. We are not a slim continent. I am in the UK, predicted to be the fattest in Europe within a decade, so maybe my perception is skewed because I think we have more here, but I do also regularly visit Germany (a few times a year) and go to France and Spain sometimes and also see lots of fat people.
I don't know why anybody would think Europeans are "slim and pretty" when it's really not the case. It's just on TV. Just like all Americans have huge houses, but it's just on TV.
Not having to Live in the USA where Obesity is a Problem with High Cal foods.
Good luck and Love Europe!! xx
Thank you for the Like, hun. xxoo
In general, less junk food and maybe more gym addicted
Most Europeans still regard "going to the gym" as a **literally crazy** thing to do.
@redeyemindtricks not where I live. Gyms are full, people are jogging, other sports explode, ...
They eat healthy food not junk and exercise a lot, at least where I live in Germany they do this. Park is full of woman running, gyms too they don't eat fast food and junk
Not eating at McDonald or KFC and drinking zero sugar soda helps.
Does diet soda REALLY help?
@YourFutureEx look at the quantities of sugar in normal sodas in France:
framasphere.org/.../...ll_0667ada6da79e634f9ba.jpg
I don't know if American sodas have more or less. Diet soda certainly has less.
I found this:
https://www.sugarstacks.com/beverages.htm
@YourFutureEx read my opinion here (it's the girl mho)
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q2009342-are-sugar-substitutes-bad-for-your-health
The sugar industry has been DESPERATELY trying to fund studies that actually find adverse effects of artificial sweeteners on health... and, still, after almost 40 years, NO such adverse effects have EVER been found.
jacquesvol - I know how much "more" sugar we're consuming in regular ones. But some studies say, even "no sugar" products have adverse effects. Like, they spike up insulin levels making your body to store fat.
@redeyemindtricks
So, the studies claiming the adverse effects are false? I've discussed this with a bodybuilder here and he said he takes diet soda and he has the best abs here. End of the discussion lol
@YourFutureEx They don't spike insulin. Click on my link -- I actually specifically addressed that.
For *some* unfortunate people, artificial sweeteners can increase cravings for actual sugar (this seems to be caused by neurotransmitters in the pleasure/reward centers of the brain, not by anything having to do with metabolism/digestion/storage).
But, even those people will be fine, as long as they don't *actually* start consuming actual sugar.
Bodybuilders can get away with consuming tons of sugar, especially in the immediate post-workout period. But yes, they can *cut* on artificial sweeteners. I work with plenty of fitness models who knock down 10+ Diet Cokes a day when they're cutting for a photo shoot.
@redeyemindtricks thanks! :)
So, I worked very hard to cut my sugar intake. And I used to consume 300-500 ml regular soda daily. But now, I'm fine without soda or sugar in particular. So, what would you recommend? Should I take diet soda (to give my body some sweet rewards and mental boosts) or to not to consume it at all as I can live without it?
@YourFutureEx The point of the artificially sweetened drinks is to take care of that sort of taste craving, in a way that doesn't involve actual sugar.
The other good reason is to help people stay hydrated. (Some people simply won't drink enough, if water is the only fluid they allow themselves.)
If you have neither of these issues, then there's no real reason to *introduce* artificial sweeteners into yr diet.
Because we dont have a mcdonalds on every block, the closest fast food place for me is about 10km away from me.
Could it also be because the culture is not filled with instant gratification and people like to cook their own food rather than picking it up at fast food places?
@BubbleBoy69 yeah, homecooked meals here are standard and kids take food from home to school too.
They exercise and don't live of mcdonalds.
Okay good point.😊
When I visited US everything was super sweet, even the bread. In Europe we dont eat so much sweet suff, we drink more water than soda and a lot of european people live outside big cities and have small gardens etc where they spend a lot of their energy. Healthy people usualy dont use wheelchairs for handicapped people (or whatever you call those scooters) and we rather walk.
They haven't been swallowed up by the food conglomerates yet. Just wait, they'll be taken over soon. Capitalism baby!
They smoke instead of eat. And drink coffee instead of eat.
I think they walk more and eat a little less of the junk/fat food that people seem to love in U. S.
Different eating habits and foods, on the Continent, especially.
They eat less shit. In particular, less processed food, and less sugar.
They also walk more.
meal sizes are thrice as small as yours (north americans)
Because most European food is SHIT except for Italian and french other than that it's shit , well it's the truth 😛
why do they have some of the best restaurants in the world then?
@HonestWhiteGuy I don't know but it's shit
Alright, thats your opinion though not "truth". I might think your food is shit too lol
@HonestWhiteGuy $100 you won't , and I have tasted European food nit just saying that
I think their shit food is in smaller portions, so that you don't over-eat
Starvation from the Euro Crisis.
Genetics and hard work.
It's more about American diet. Unhealthy and filled up with too much shit that causes you to put on weight.
@BubbleBoy69 Agreed, that's why I said genetics and hard work. Americans have the genetics, but many don't put the hard work.
I still think American women are the hottest though.
"Hard work" lol... what hard work?
When I lived in Milan (and traveled all over Europe), I literally *never* met ANY European woman who exercised for the sake of health, or for the sake of exercising itself.
@redeyemindtricks What did they exercise for then?
@redeyemindtricks Hard work isn't just about exercising.
@BubbleBoy69 They basically didn't, other than the day-to-day walking and "active" stuff.
Men didn't, really, either. It's just not a thing, in the culture. Things are changing a LITTLE bit now, but, for the most part, the idea of "going to the gym" or "going for a run" seems literally insane over there.
Organic is the way here.