Do you think the Corona virus can be defeated with self isolation and good hygiene?

[Victor1212]

[cunnilinguist]

No. It can be defeated when people start reading science and start taking their own health into their own hands instead of giving away their power to drug companies and doctors that make a licing on people staying sick.

It will be defeated when people start practising methods that science has shown to work, like conscious control of your own immune system for example. A good place to start would be the Wim Hof Method.

Wim Hof was the first person in human history known to have an immune system that was able to resist Escherichia coli endotoxin without getting sick. (Just so you know, according to the World Health Organisation, it is estimated that up to 10% of patients with STEC (Shiga toxin-producing E. coli) infection may develop HUS, with a case-fatality rate ranging from 3 to 5%. https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/e-coli) The next known cases were the 12 volunteers that he trained. Think about it. Before him no human, ever, no matter how strong immune system they had, whether they had a healthy diet, trained, exercised, meditated, took vitamins, NO ONE, EVER beat E-coli before him. You don't have to be a genius to understand what that means. Practising a simple breathing technique gives you MUCH better chances of survival. How? It is simpler than washing your hands with sanitizer:

Wim's breathing technique makes your body release Epinephrine, which in turn leads to increased production of Interleukin-10 and other anti-inflammatory agents in the body while at the same time it dampens the pro-inflammatory Cytokine response. Also the accompanying hyperventilation floods the blood with oxygen and also results in a higher number of white blood cells. The white blood cells fight disease and the oxygen ensures faster recovery.

So as a net effect, you don't get sick; if you do have some mild symptoms you recover much faster. And more importantly, you do not get inflamed lungs and you don't DIE from pneumonia when you have Coronavirus!

Sources of the Wim Hof study:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4034215/
https://www.pnas.org/content/111/20/7379

In video format:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6jqaALpEFMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YficBlvPwWQ

Finally, the technique only takes 10 minutes a day to practise, and Wim shares the technique with the whole world FOR FREE:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tybOi4hjZFQ

Also he has the free app available for download on his official website:
https://www.wimhofmethod.com/wim-hof-method-mobile-app
He travels the world teaching people how to never be sick, at no charge. Please consider supporting him.

Interviews:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM6WKeZ43s4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9zS94x2nd8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woxjutWVuj4

[Teyfet]

You can't defeat a virus. This one will almost certainly return in another wave in fall, perhaps even more after that.
The steps that we are taking our less about protecting us & more about protecting the First Responders and the Hospitals, because they are being overwhelmed. If we lose the First Responders and especially the Hospitals, society will collapse. They cannot take much more than they have already taken and continue to function. Therefore, we are isolating, in an effort not to get sick, not to have to call them, not to have to go to the hospital. Because the hospitals are already packed.

That said, the things that will be most helpful in fighting this pestilence (long-term) are testing, herd immunity and vaccination. We have tests now, just not enough - because the administration was totally incompetent & unprepared. They're working on the vaccine now, and should have it within 6-18mos. We'll be miserable until then. We would have been so much better off if the president gave a damn & listened to the warnings, if the administration had just followed the Pandemic Playbook, but instead, they threw it out, along with the pandemic team. The economy would not have shut down, we would not be isolated now.

(The good hygiene was always a good idea; proper handwashing will protect you from many things.)

[PeacefulRainDrop]

No but slows the spread and the scary thing is if we dont go out walking abd build immunity to different things we could end up having weak immune systems cause we stayed in our houses too much.. personal thoughts driving and walking on trails isn't encouraged but walking the sidewalks is what im doing why ban trails? Makes no sense but hey not doing it since people have already had $1000 fines

[Emilia_45]

In a utopian world, yes, everyone would stay in their homes and wash their hands and the coronavirus would disappear fast. But we unfortunately live in a world where people think that their selfish motives for going outside during quarantine due to a global pandemic trump the elderly and people with preexisting condition’s health.

[Anonymous]

Yes, but what I don't get is why are certain health officials, politicians and WHO (World Health Organization) stating the second outbreak will be deadlier that's what seems fishy. That is not based on "conspiracy theories" this was openly said by many representatives in the health industry. How do they know it will be deadlier? That's why part of me thinks was this biological warfare? Economists warned of an economic collapse a few years ago and even in 2019 leading into 2020. Lo and behold it happens so who knows maybe there are things we don't know.

I could be wrong but there are two sides to the coin and everyone will have their own input. I see people walking outside with masks, I see people walking outside without masks. I do believe covid-19 should be taken seriously but the common flu kills hundreds of thousands of people every year. In terms of maintaining ourselves in isolation, practicing social distancing and washing their hands. But if this virus ends and things drastically improve in the weeks ahead which I am hoping for apparently these organizations are saying the second outbreak will be worse.

[Opinion Owner]

I love how people dislike my comment because it does not fit their narrative, it's just an opinion, I even said I could be wrong. But those who don't prepare are going to be one's who lack faith in God, believe anything the media dishes out and in reality many people are mindless sheep.

[gotc147]

No, that isn't even the point of "social distancing" in the first place. The point was to slow, not stop, the spread so as not to overwhelm the healthcare system. Of course here in the United States we're over prepared for this and as such over 200 hospitals in 41 states are actually laying staff off because they just aren't needed.

Socialized healthcare systems like the NHS however, are at the breaking point, to the surprise of only idiots.

You're going to get the virus if you haven't already, there is no stopping it. Luckily it isn't a big deal, a fever and a cough, maybe shortness of breath for a couple weeks and that's it, unless you have multiple underlying medical conditions.

[Anonymous]

Solely? Probably not. The idea, I think, is more to significantly slow the spread and over time significantly reduce the amount of cases per day. Which is in fact what we're seeing in countries with a lockdown.

Theoretically if every single person in a country was able to stay inside for 14-30 days and if there was sufficient testing the virus would probably be gone by the end of it. Because everyone who was infected would've gotten sick by then and could be identified and continue their isolation until they recover or, unfortunately, die. Of course, that's not going to happen. You're never going to get a situation where every single person in the country stays inside for 14-30 days. Not necessarily just because of economic consequences, but also because there will always be people who go out anyway.

[front2back]

The virus can't be defeated. Until an effective vaccine is developed, which may take years, it will continue to spread through countries like wildfire. The virus is the perfect storm of many asymptomatic carries, a long incubation period while still being able to spread while incubating, and the ability to infect much more rapidly than the flu.
At this point, you're either someone who HAS had it, or WILL have it.
Your chances of infection are significantly reduced with good hygiene, however.

[Daniel3035]

The reality is no it can't it is possible but everyone would have to do just that and the likelihood of that is very low people will do what they want. It takes one asymptotic person among a group of 50 and thats it back to square 1. And let's assume everyone does that and we eradicate it there is no telling if the virus will come back with the flu next winter. USA has detected a gene that is similar to the flu and that gene is apparently responsible for the flu coming back every winter although it doesn't confirm it does highten the probability.
Vaccine is the only way and according to astrazeneca it will take the end of this year assuming it works well and is "safe" it will only be used for emergencies let alone regular use. I estimate it will take us 2 years as in 2023 will be free.
MChem PhD Chemistry and Biochemistry.

[lightbulb27]

nope and we slow down it's spread so we have it longer. The benefit is it is delayed to have time to find some solutions and understand it better. unless it morphs to something else like the flu and we end up chasing our tails decades.

They figured out AIDS/HIV, so maybe they can figure this out.

So much confusing information floating around. I trust the Dr.'s when they say... we don't know:)

[serious]

No, it is not a way to defeat it as it is not a cure but simply a prevention method. Prevention is not equal to a cure. Hence by following isolation and good hygiene, one can prevent getting the virus on to themselves.

The cure, which is the vaccine or an equivalent medicine is the only way to actually defeat and kill the virus.

[dantheman1118]

I don't think it's meant to defeat it. The social distancing was put into place to attempt to slow it down I believe. This method would never defeat it unless we all did it at 100% and did it for months and months and months. Everything would be effed by the end of it and I mean everything.

[purplepoppy]

Ask any farmer what the key to avoiding viruses or any disease and the answer is hygiene and isolation. Ok we'll also say extermination but lets not go that far.

[DiscomfortZone]

No. I mean, it would have been had people not been so goddamn stupid, but they are. Self isolation and hygene will only work if we start shooting the quarantine breakers, all of them (I don't mind using gas or napalm or whatever if you wanna save up on bullets).

[Akshayjosh]

I think medical science has still not grown to its still potential.

There's been research in warfare,
There's been research in science,
there's research in astronomy,
Nothing can match the research and development of computer science the pace and highs its reaching everyday.

But why the hell not medical science?
There's so many viruses out there,
HIV, Ebola, Mers, SARS and now Corona.
What are you guys doing so these years!!!
You medical experts?

[xcentric]

Creating disease and cure it with medication that has more side effects than effects.

[Akshayjosh]

Agreed.. but its not yesterday that these viruses have made it in this world.
And am pretty sure there are algorithms and patterns similar in them, cracking that one simple way of route seems to be very difficult,
There's got to be done bottle neck. That needs to be solved.
Maybe it works after that..

[AdithyaR]

It can't be defeated like that but it can be slowed. That's the main aim, we need to reduce the number of infections.
That way, we give time for scientists to find a vaccine or a cure.
If the infections increase, hospitals will soon get overrun and then it all goes to hell.

[Anonymous]

Herd immunity is the way to go. The common cold is a virus, 99.9% of people will catch it some way or another.

Covid19, 97% chance you will survive, 3% death chance. It isn’t really as bad as the other scary viruses. Ebola 10% survival rate, Rabies 10 survival rate..

[vannefftor]

Most experts are presicting it to be an annual thing. The slowing of the spread is key now but its oir governement who was sepling off their stocks and pretending it was fake news with early information of the virus until people started dying. China is just as much to blame as the Trump admin

[burlen]

In the short-term, C19 can be defeated with lockdown, physical distancing, and self-quarantine. A sustainable success against C19 would require a vaccine, larger immunised population, and tracking of mutated strains of C19.

[CubsterShura]

We are definitely more likely to defeat it that way than sneezing on our palms and then shaking hands with people.

[Flower7]

I think it can be AVOIDED that way, but not defeated. There's a difference.

[Sevenpointfive]

NO. there is no cure for influenza as of now or it's mutations. i don't see it going away. unfortunately, if no vaccine is found then those that have been infected and recovered are the only ones that can combat the virus and go on with daily life

[bxtterflytattoo]

I wouldn't say it could be defeated just by self isolation and good hygiene. But to some extent it can be slowed down, and that's what is happening right now. So stay home and safe.

[Jaximus-Lion]

Not defeated, it never can be defeated , even when they gonna find vaccine. But you can minimize the numbers and put it under control till they find vaccine

[Hamsteroids]

PREVENTED through good hygiene
DEFEATED through vaccine

[Commander_Red]

I think it's a temporary solution but it's definitely not the cure to the Coronavirus. That's why countries are racing to develop a finished vaccine.

[Drumlin2001]

No. It's not about defeating it. It's about reducing new cases and delaying it till we can develop a vacinne.

[LiamSawyer]

Defeated maybe not, but yes, slowed down to a controllable rate until hopefully we have a vaccine or effective drug to treat those that have been infected.

[jarofawesome]

With summer coming up don't forget to do your daily sanitization tanning too kiddos

Front and behind, keep it sunshined

[AmberGreen]

That's the Truth Good Job 👍

[Deadwolf83]

no, cuz its a zootic pathogen. as long as it can live in animals, it will be around for the foreseeable future. if it was just a human virus, then yes.

[Listenhear]

I’m not sure what the answer is but I have found it interesting to see the numbers of cases without feeling ill.

[ChiTown33]

Not so long as you have 10% of the population not giving a damn ans continuing to spread it.

[Guanfei]

No. This is just made to lower the number of serious cases so the hospitals can treat them, and the risk of spreading. The virus in itself will stay until we find a vaccine. And even then, it will be like the flu, a seasonal vaccine.

[Twalli]

Yes, but it needs to be everyone doing it. Can we call stay inside or in our yard (for those of us that have animals in need of peeing and pooping outside) for 14 days straight. Yes, but people won't do that. At least not enough.

[Madhatter920]

Yes. If it has no one to spread to, it dies. That's how viruses work.

[Gedaria]

YES.. If you are still alive after 14 days isolation. and keep your hands clean you have beaten it. You just have to wait for everyone else to do the same...

[BlackWidow93]

No Haha but it definitely helps keep it under control

[jakeofalltrades]

isolation is more about slowing than stopping. slowing the spread so the hospitals aren't flooded and over exerted and slowing the spread long enough to make a vaccine

[najekim]

Nope. It really won't be defeated until after it's run it's course. I don't care how isolation you get or how many gallons of water you use, if you're going to get a virus you're going to get it.

[xcentric]

I think it can be defeated in starting to believe in the truth that each our bodies is a wonder and it's own doctor. So stop taking a those medications of the pharma industries because it would be bad for their business if you'd be healthy.

[Anonymous]

Sure. Don’t forget Clorox injections per President dumbass

[dandee55]

You're the dumb one. He never said that - or even implied it.

[Opinion Owner]

@dandee55 thanks for your reply

[crazy8000]

Be little careful with how often since we have bacteria that protect us from all kind of diseases and infections.

[JCT666]

It will slow down the transmission, but it will NOT defeat the whole virus.

[reptocarl2]

Yes in theory but it’s very hard to put in practice

[John_Doesnt]

No, the coronavirus can only be defeated by injecting ourselves with disinfectant and sunlight.

[blazillarex]

I guess vaccines or herd immunity shouldn't be discarded

[sum_ting]

Those measures are good enough to prevent mass contamination and hospitals from flooding with patients. We need to build collective immunity to defeat the virus tho.

[AustColombiangirl]

Yes seems to be working in Australia and New Zealand

[MrTaboo]

No. All that does it slows spread. We will still get it. And most have already and dont know it.

[Anonymous]

you get it from other people and touching things sick people have touched, so yeah.

[Anonymous]

This virus can be defeated by enacting national laws against abortion, and against same-sex-marriage, and against Satan's LGBT agenda in the govt schools.

[Anonymous]

What if the U. S is trying to make everyone positive so that way once this is all done we have an incentive to go to war with China? Man I’m on some shrooms.

[msc545]

NO. It will take a lot more than those things. And now... enter the conspiracy theorists...

[Dinosaursandanime65]

No, it can be defeated with the power of dank memes!

[Anonymous]

Only if you combine it with an injection of disinfectant. (I’m joking. Don’t do that.)

[Cryptic-Game]

It can be slowed down but doubtful it will be completely stopped.

[Anonymous]

With less smart phone usage and social distancing 😉

[coffeewithcream]

Defeated? No.
Managed? Yes.

[Anonymous]

That and good cardio to monitor your change should you catch it

[Numbnuts89]

until they find the vaccine, that's all we can do

[BeachMaster]

If soaps kills it so should mouthwash right.

[theChineseWASP]

The true weapon is something something antibodies.

[beldath]

No. The flu comes back every year... so will this.

[meeso13]

Shouldn't good hygiene just be there anyway?