Why are nurses killing people?

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Why are people, who are supposed to help us get better, do the opposite and kill us? This isn't the first case I have read in the news about this happening, with nurses administering fatal doses of drugs to patients. Even if it is to get them out of their misery, it is not up to them to decide this. Some states do allow assisted suicide to terminal patients. But that is still not up to these nurses to decide this and act on their own.

Officials in North Carolina announced first-degree murder charges against a registered nurse accused of administering lethal doses of insulin to two patients.

Johnathan Hayes, 47, was arrested on two counts of murder and one count of attempted murder.
Hayes is accused of administering a deadly dose of insulin to Gwen Crawford on Jan. 5 at the Atrium Health Wake Forest Baptist Medical Center in Winston-Salem, North Carolina. Crawford died three days later. Officials said he gave another lethal insulin dose to another patient, Vickie Lingerfelt, on Jan. 22, who died five days later.

Hayes also gave a near-fatal insulin dose to patient Pamela Little on Dec. 1, 2021, O’Neill said.

Hospital staff first tipped investigators with the Winston-Salem Police Department off to Hayes’ alleged wrongdoings in March following an internal investigation. On March 18, the hospital fired Hayes, who had worked there “at various times” over the last 15 years, according to hospital spokesperson Joe McCloskey.

ObscuredBeyond · Accepted Answer

Medical boards are now ruled entirely by greed and fear. If their political buddies decide killing someone is preferable to letting them live, the board doesn't want a sudden loss of certain funds, or certain bands of bused-in rioters destroying a hospital, to be a thing. So they decide it's more profitable that X live and Y die. Nurses then have to choose between obeying their conscience to save Y as well, and lose their everything for having the audacity, or taking the money, and killing Y.

Many choose the money, because they have no faith that God or anyone else will protect them or their families. They're not willing to be martyrs for Y, so they become executioners via blackmail.

This happened in 2020 to all Huntington's patients across the US, as the psychopaths in the WEF all decided that Huntington's patients would all be better off dead, than draining funds needed for Ukraine and bioweapons.

My one ex-girlfriend was sacrificed on the altar of all that BS. It remains a huge regret of mine that I couldn't save her. Even if there was little chance of getting back with her officially, or marrying her, I still wanted her to have a fulfilling life. She was denied that at every opportunity. It was only as she was dying that she understood how much I loved her. And then she was remorseful for having taken me for granted years earlier. Because she could no longer do anything to correct her past mistakes.

I only wish I'd been allowed in, to hold her hand as she passed, foreheads pressed together. But with all the lockdown horseshit going on, not even her own mother would've been allowed in to see her!

They didn't even keep her properly hydrated! They Terri Schiavo'd her to death, and used fear of covid as an excuse for their cruelty!

And now that thousands are dying from Gray Goo Cyborg Venom in their veins, but millions took the transhumanist jab, entities like Witchmer slightly dialed back their tyranny. And because of the dial back, the sheep still believe that "following protocol" led them to "salvation"!

Most of Michigan that way is stuck on stupid. And so long as that continues, killer nurses will continue to go unpunished, while the good ones face dismissal and public disgrace. The ones who study the work, and admit to the boards and their corruption, are dismissed as "conspiracy theorists," when they heard and saw an actual conspiracy with their own eyes and ears! But no tolerance for those who don't fall in lockstep with the narrative.

zeitgeist057 · Accepted Answer

Humans kill other humans for a multitude of reasons. Nurses are known for being compassionate and caring, so why would they kill? Here are some theories:

1. God complex: A nurse might see a lot of patients come in with a lot of suffering. Motorcycle accidents, diabetic patients losing their limbs and lives, patients with dementia or Alzheimer's, MS, or people on dialysis. Just to name a half a dozen out of literally thousands of possibilities. The nurse could decide they have the power to decide what is best for these people and/or the planet. This nurse was giving lethal insulin doses (it's a medicine for diabetics). Maybe he thought he was helping them avoid suffering. Or maybe he thought they deserved to die for some other reason? Many diabetics are diabetic due to obesity, and obesity is often judged and hated on, so maybe he was murdering them for that reason?

2. Compassionate suicide assistance: The famous Dr. Kevorvkian would be an example of this ethic.

3. Just for kicks: Some people kill just for the pleasure of killing. It's possible this man got a power kick out of getting away with murder. Some people are kleptomaniacs, or they shoplift from stores even though they are rich, just for the thrill of committing a crime and getting away with it.

4. Sociopathic tendencies/serial killer: Some people are detached from humanity, and see other humans as less. The way some humans view cows or ants; as a lesser life form that there is no reason to have any compassion or loyalty to. If this nurse felt this way, he could have been killing just out of curiosity or on a whim. Or a combination of this plus something from the above list.

5. Revenge/justice: There may have been some trauma in the nurse's life that caused him to seek revenge or justice for that trauma. It's a bit of a stretch, but something could have caused him to associate his victims with that trauma. Because they were diabetic, or perhaps because they were women, or as previously mentioned, they may have all been obese. Or some other factor that tied them together, such as race or religion.

Haha456 · Accepted Answer

I'm a nursing student. I'm going to give you some insight.

Here is the real deal:

Nurses are extremely understaffed, overworked, underpaid, underappreciated, over stressed. They have to work with very unsafe nurse to patient ratios which may endanger lives of patients. As few as 5 nurses working to serve 40-45 patients. This means they're are running around all day , so busy that they barely have any time to use the bathroom or take lunch breaks, just to serve people like you. The more patients they get and the less the nurses = the higher the chance of mistakes / errors. We are people , just like you. You make mistakes. We make mistakes too. Except that when we make mistakes , we lose our livelihood and get sent to prison for it. You don't.

Secondly, nurses are often the scapegoats for everything that is wrong with the hospital or healthcare system. The nurse, Radonda, was blamed for something that was inherently wrong with the hospital's system of protocols for the medication ejection, which killed the patient. Apparently, the hospital had a terrible system of overriding system protocols for certain medications. It was something that the hospital did wrong, but the hospital tried keeping their reputation by shoving the nurse under the bus. There were many important details that were left out of the newspapers.

Thirdly, hospital purposefully understaff nurses in order to save money. Nurses are the hospitals biggest expense. It eats away at their profits. The reason why we always never have enough nurses is because few nurses are willing to work under such stressful conditions where they're putting their hard-earned licenses at risk by working in dangerous nurse to patient ratios. When hospitals are not hiring enough staff members to serve people, the risk of error increases. Your quality of care will also decrease. Bad things are more likely to happen. And when it does occur, nurses lose their livelihood over it.

They're not killing you on purpose. Its the health care system that is broken.

There was another example of how a doctor had written the incorrect dosage on a prescription. The nurse followed the prescription and administered the incorrect dose to an infant. Infant dies and the nurses loses her job. Nothing happened to the doctor. why? because doctors rake in revenue for the hospital. Nurses are just an expense.

The health care system is not built to save you or help you, its entire purpose is to bill you and rake in profits.

whirled_up_girl · Accepted Answer

I realize I can only speak for myself but as a nurse I strive to always do what's best for my patients. I would never intentionally cause any my patient's harm. That's one reason I along with my fellow nurses work with our union to try and improve conditions such as safe staffing. When nurses have too many patients they could easity miss dangerous signs and symptoms just simply from not being able to be present in the room. That's one of many reasons why I actually appreciate family, visitors and all other staff memers that meet with the patient, sometime we can use all the help we can get. And on rare occasion when doctor orders the wrong medication or misses an allergy we can catch that too. That being said every profession as going to have people with sociopathic tendencies, there was a story about a doctor tampering with IV bags and making patients sick.

Finchie40 · Answer

Because those nurses aren’t really nurses , they just took the job for a paycheck and think since they have a license that automatically makes them a nurse or a doctor , it takes more than that to be a doctor or. Nurse , they really don’t have the care in them and the care for the patients what so ever all they care about is themselves and their paycheck , I witnessed so many times in hospitals the lack of care that a lot of these nurses and doctors perform that just made me shake my head as to why are they even working this job, I noticed the ones that actually had a heart and cared about the patients care and they are amazing people compared to the ones that didn’t , I witnessed so much neglect of patient care that a lot of these nurses and doctors need to be fired , I know being a doctor and a nurse is a very stressful job and it is a demanding job I worked security in a hospital and it was the worse job I ever had , but if you don’t have the care in you , you shouldn’t be working with patients , find another profession cuz they are not cut out to be a doctor or nurse , All they care about is who they are going to hook up with and what they are going to buy and what they are going to eat while the call bells are being pushed for long periods of time and neglecting the patient , I have witnessed neglected patients covered in shit and piss , and patients almost falling out of the bed holding on for their dear life and the nurses are just sitting there behind their station talking about what they are going to do on their time off, I have motherfucked nurses and doctors so many times to the point I told them straight to their faces that they should not be working in this line of work that you are not cut out for this job , So admit to yourself that you are wrong because that patients call bell has been pushed for the last 25 minutes and you are just sitting here talking about what you are going to do this weekend , Nobody gives a fuck do your job , they would say oh I didn’t notice it as going off, I said yea because you are more
Concerned about yourself , Find a new job!!! I was pissed lol

RavVid · Answer

Also in the UK a nurse is on trial for killing babies with insulin and injecting air into them. It will quite a long trial but we do know that hospital had an abnormal increase in infant deaths. In Australia one nurse has be convicted of killing two patients with insulin and anther is accused of doing the same. So it is not just a rogue nurse in the US only. Indeed it could be argued there is an international trend.

So why? The pattern seems to be elderly people and possibly premature sickly babies. That would seem to fall into the category of mercy killing.

It is fairly common for it to be decided not to do interventions to prolong a patients life and to palliate them instead. Usually the family makes that decision.

Sometimes a nurse or doctor might make a mistake. I know one case where a nurse did make a fatal mistake but the patient died from another cause first.

As you point out though it is not for a nurse to decide it is time to terminate a patients life even when a patient is suffering greatly. Such a nurse might be motivated by compassion but we don't need to say how wrong that is.

What can be done to prevent this? Well that is hard. There are checks in administration of some drugs were a mistake in dosage could cause death. One nurse checks out the drugs with another and confirms the dosage and possibly the administration of the drug. Deadly drugs are locked up and require two nurses to access.

In the case of insulin, diabetics routinely self administer insulin and would die if they couldn't. It is necessarily widely available in a hospital setting and is not a deadly drug. If a diabetic patient is unable to self administer than the nurse would routinely do so.

The only possibility I see is that if insulin is the 'mercy drug' then it needs to be in the deadly drug category and require two nurses. As insulin is needed at every meal that would be a heavy burden of course. Perhaps with vulnerable patients there needs to be a two nurse sign off on every drug administration.

Red_Arrow · Answer

You will find people who will do wrong in any profession and any place. Of course when it is medical people killing people, that is pretty bad. However, my personal contacts with medical people, and the reading I have done on those people is completely different. I have found them to be dedicated to helping people. When my daughter was fighting a brain tumor, her doctors were very caring, concerned, and helpful. Her oncologist actually cried with us during a particularly bad spell.

My wife was a nurse and spent years working at nursing homes because she was able to care for people more closely and give more care than if she was at a hospital. She was an RN so she certainly could have taken many better paying jobs. When my daughter had her tumor, my wife stayed home with her since my insurance covered more so I continued working. When my daughter was well enough that my wife could return to work, she then entered hospital because that was what was available. Thruogh her I met may doctors and nurses and all of them were extremely caring. With all the different doctors and nurses checking the patients it would have been impossible for a patient to have been murdered without it having been found out.

So a few people can actually do that in some places, but it is not at all common or acceptable. Nurses spend more time with the patients than the doctors and often find mistakes that doctors have made in the charts (nurses are always checking the charts for each patient), and many of those finds save the patients.

dragoblack · Answer

I try to use hospitals as a last resort due to a couple of reasons but i start with herbal medicines & medicinal teas, then pills, then if that doesn't work I go to the hospital. But even growing up i have dealt with doctors that will misdiagnose, keep upping my medication and adding on more without taking me off of the previousones (that ended up with me going homicidal and in the medical psyche ward removing all medicines. And amazingly those doctors still have their licenses), and doing medical malpractice and sketchy shite. But with some doctors it's just guess work based on some symptoms (which is why i go to the national library of midicine archive to find it out myself to help narrow it down and find options to help.) As i go through the years i have realized... just like how normal people forget most of their pubic school knowledge, Doctors do the exact same with their medical schooling, and though it is unnerving for them to forget which causes complications and sometimes death they are still flawed humans with forgeful brains.
But at the same time there are some people who should never be working in the medical field.

Jay3344 · Answer

Medical professionals deprived my brother of oxygen after he was born and gave him cerebral palsy. My grandmother was almost starved to death by a misplaced feeding tube/ colostomy bag. My other brother almost lost use of a finger because a doctor didn’t know what a torn ligament was. My grandfather waited in a hospital waiting room for over 8 hours waiting for a bed to open up just 2 weeks before he died…the US is bought and sold by big pharma and the big insurance companies so helping people is just a by product of making money. So focus tends to sway towards to the money and less towards not killing or harming sick people. Good things happen too but the negatives definitely stand out

SecretsofKB · Answer

Nurse here. It has been said here already by @Red_Arrow, but I'll say it again because I agree with it...

There are bad people in every profession. Unfortunately, that means they make it into medical professions also.

But the thing is, nurses (a many other Healthcare workers) are put in a position where the patient's life is in their hands. I work in an ICU. In my regular 12 hour shift, I could kill my one patient more times than I can count in more ways than I can count.

Nurses are simply put into a position where we have a greater ability to kill someone. While these stories are insanely tragic, there are hundreds of thousands of nurses that make it through there shift without killing their patient.

And that's because most people in this world are good people and not murderous assholes.

Apple1996 · Answer

Nurses/doctors have always been killing people. They tend not to have any ethical bones in their bodies. It's all about money and just getting through the day for them. I've had many many issues with doctors so I just don't trust them anymore.

Summeroflove · Answer

The same reason someone in any profession kills people. Maybe they are serial killers and their way to get to people is through nursing.

Many nurses are wonderful people who wouldn’t kill someone intentionally at least. But. I could go off into a whole other subject.

Hopefully anyone whose a evil doctor or nurse gets arrested.

I mean you could take Dr. Fauci for example. I know he’s a doctor. Same category there are doctors who kill sometimes too.

Some people are pure evil

xJeremyx · Answer

Because they have... dubious intentions?

Ok but jokes aside, there are always bad apples, you will find them every once in awhile. These are the people who were not taught proper emotional management, to manage negative emotions such as anger and frustration. It is also possible that they have undiagnosed psychiatric issues.

I would think that the unfortunate patients or their families may have been arseholes to the nurses. It does not excuse the behaviour, but it may be a contributing factor. Add to that the toxic, high-stress environment nurses are subjected to, and it just compounds the issue. If there is a mental issue, it may be psychopathic, schizophrenic, bipolaric, or disillusionistic in nature. So please, seek help if you need to. Do not wait until it is too late.

Chris_u006 · Answer

Maybe those nurses get paid by big pharma to do that?
Crazier stuff have happened before.
The fact that I could think about that right on the spot from the top of my head, is only evidence enough that I am probably not alone thinking like that.
How can I think like that in the first place?
Ask Doctor Robert Malone, he talked about doctors and nurses who have gotten paid extra by big pharma to treat and test sars-cov-2 cases, he claimed that he have seen that type of paperwork.
Totally different topic I know, but how do we as humans know that it is not like that with ending lives?
Palliative health care is not something new or even controversial or uncommon.

DryGermanGuy · Answer

I'm not sure if you followed the case of German serial killer Niels Högel, who was a nurse murdering patients. He is supposed to be the most prolific murderer in healthcare and was convicted of 88 murders, with an additional 244 potential cases. He admitted the reasons for his doings were a mixture of God-complex, craving for recognition of his resuscitation skills and boredom.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niels_H%C3%B6gel

BlueScorpio · Answer

Cause they're crazy and evil, that's what murderers do. Plus it's the perfect cover up, the patient is sick/dying so they adsume no one is going to notice any foul play.

Anonymous · Answer

That event has recently been brought to my attention. As a medical student, I am absolutely appalled by this and I do NOT want anyone like that to consider working in healthcare.

Before you become a student, you have to take an oath that you would adhere to your moral responsibilities and strictly follow the ethical code. That principle follows you into residency training and eventually practice. Nursing students also have to take an oath, as they are also responsible for people's lives.

I'm not yet in my clinical years, but I have had summer training programs where I had seen people at their worst, and that thought had never crossed my mind. The fact that someone can take another's life in their most vulnerable state is another form of evil.

I hope that the third woman who survived makes a complete recovery, and I hope that that bastard loses his nursing license and is NEVER released from prison alive.

Anonymous · Answer

so some people are killing others happen to work in healthcare. Is there something special about it that i'm missing?

For one I've never had any medical workers trying to harm me. And i saw like 20 of those including surgeons.

Secondly my grandpa died years ago from a disease caused by his heavy smoking addiction and supposedly i heard from my grandma the medical workers weren't doing much and offered her to sign some sort of "death contract" that she herself did not understand and could not explain what it was and she refused to sign it. Do people really expect medics to have magical healing hands and wands to cure a deadly terminal disease free of charge? I think they foolishly do.

Anonymous · Answer

Why are mothers killing all their children?

Why are people, who are supposed to love and protect their own children, do the opposite and kill them? This isn't the first case I have read in the news about this happening.

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/mother-arrested-suspected-of-murder-after-3-kids-found-dead-in-west-hills-home/

Ok, jest aside, nurses don't kill people any more often than others kill their children. This is not an epidemic. A tiny handful of people are really fucked up, but they don't represent the vast majority.

Agape93 · Answer

You'll fine degenerates in every field. For every nurse killing people, I can find several cops killing people. For every cop killing people, I can find several warehouse workers killing people. Etc.

RangerBlue22 · Answer

The vast majority of nurses don’t “kill people”. Don’t take an anecdotal case and come up with a stupid headline like “why do nurses kill people”.

More often nurses sometimes tragically make mistakes i. e. prescribing patients the wrong dosage of a medicine which results in harming the patient or worse. It’s one of the reasons there is malpractice insurance which it turns skyrockets healthcare costs.

Luopio27 · Answer

This is the first direct kill I've heard. Psychiatrick wards, thats where the professional killers are. They push people to the point of suicide with their gaslighting and other methods.

I am a survivor of those horroble people and their treatments.

Guardian45 · Answer

Imagine you are ALWAYS overworked, underpaid, under recognized, under acknowledged add to that cursed or physically abused by patients and families. And STILL no matter what you do, your patients die and hospital administration don't give a shit or do anything to support you.

jimmy2 · Answer

It could be all the stress since March 2020 when the China virus hit and turn the hospitals upside down then 2 years later many nurses quit due to exhaustion and the left over nurses had to take many more beds of people than was safe then many more nurses quit due to safety and those nurse left are getting exhausted again. So in that climate I think understand you see a person that no hope is left then you compassion rises up

cryscrys1 · Answer

Sadly every profession has mentally I’ll people and psychopaths. Nurses who do this are eventually mentally I’ll and believe they are doing the patient a “favor”.

ArtemisSilver · Answer

I think it's because they aren't being psychologically screened for working with vulnerable people properly.

There's just as many female psychopaths as male ones and more subtle killing is generally how female murders operate.

Also vecause of the degree to which the feminist movement has devolved into idiotic misandry, women are rarely considered as potential violent offenders.

dustybiker · Answer

In my experience three doctors made lethal mistakes. The nurses caught them all three times.

glennos89 · Answer

Don't judge nurses like this please! 99% of people who are working in the medical industry are wonderfull people trying their best every day to help other people!

Don't blame a whole industry for s individuals mistakes pls!!

Sixgunsound · Answer

Nurses gave the clot shots too, how is this any different?

GoodGuyBreakingBad · Answer

Yes, I wonder about these Nursing Assistance at our Hospital I had one who took my sugar and it was high and she failed to report it to the Nurse I was the one who let the nurse know. I was so glad to get out of that place.

BigschlongEnergy · Answer

Didn’t you Hear Nurses Doctors the entire Medical System is Corrupted with psychopaths working in every hospital there infested with psychopaths like how Vampires are infested in movie Lost Boys.

Anonymous · Answer

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistic, there are 5.3 million nurses in the US. I don't think one sociopath in the lot is a significant public safety problem. Of course, even one is too many.

melanieeeB · Answer

I would say it's a power thing, in every profession is someone who is there for the wrong reasons... Sadly

Dinosaursandanime65 · Answer

They probably think it’s okay since mentally ill dudes are arranging appointments to get castrated so they can call themselves girls

CateM · Answer

Not all nurses are like this. Likewise, not just nurses are like this. Some people just have pure evil in their hearts

Jen_27 · Answer

I saw some nurses treat badly and they take their money

leahzrc · Answer

Did he say why he did it? Seems so wrong but did those patients really want that?

artsy_dragon · Answer

I understand, I really do. I am a trainee nurse and I would never harm my patients.

Blackcupcake · Answer

people do wrong in all professions, not just nurses and not all nurses are stupid and careless.

Fireguy17 · Answer

Other than they may think that they are playing God I have no clue.

Anonymous · Answer

They're overworked and under paid  Is it really such a mystery?

Jamie05rhs · Answer

Doctors and nurses are not necessarily moral people. #healthcareheroes 🙄

Anonymous · Answer

One person = all. Are you trying to trigger people?

Anonymous · Answer

I'm guessing it's because they let too many underqualified people nurse.

pizzalovershouse · Answer

Cuz theybetger are high or mentally ill

Twalli · Answer

Why do mass murders not constantly kill people?

TallAnon · Answer

Cuz people are fucked

_Just_A_girl_ · Answer

Sick world

CrisFantazyNFury · Answer

that is really scary

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