How dangerous is taking weight loss pills?

[Anonymous]

I'm desperate trying to lose weight.

I eat healthily

I exercise regularly and for one hour and a half - 2 hours at a time at the gym 3 days a week

I have an active job

I am fine medically

And here's the clincher.

I used to eat under 1,500 kcal's a day, and the doctor told me I'm just one of those people who has a slow metabolism and doesn't need much food per day.

I'm now eating under 1,000.

AND I'M STILL NOT LOSING WEIGHT.

I'm really started to despair and I'm turning to weight loss pills instead. I found one called "Firestorm" link

If I took this, how bad would it be? It says everything amazing but nothing bad...

[chinizo]

Its not how much you eat, its when you eat. Eating less food will only slow your metabolism down further, you need to speed it up.

So what you need to do is, eat regularly (every 2 - 2.5 hours) while keeping your meals between 8am and 5-6pm (don't eat after 6pm).

When you eat, make sure to eat a small-to-medium amount of healthy food (including the vitamin's you need), this will speed up your metabolism, and help you lose that weight.

(eat plenty of vegetables and stick to white meats. Note: Olive oil will help your body absorb the nutrients.)

Also, Do not drink anything other than water, and drink plenty of it (around 1.5 - 2 litres a day).

Pills will only damage your health, and empty your pocket's, so try to avoid buying/taking them.

[MartinMarsh]

This guy hit it on the nail

[Asker]

No lies here.

I eat 3 times a day, but I don't eat crap. one slice of toast for breakfast, yogurt for lunch and salad and meat for dinner.

I drink a lot of squash (cause too much water I just can't face drinking it, so if I have dilute squash I know I'll drink it)

I have been trying to avoid them but I'm beginning to despair!

[chinizo]

What ? You are not eating enough !

Your schedule should look something like this:

Breakfast = 8am. Snack = 11am. lunch = 1pm. Snack = 3pm. Dinner = 6pm.

Breakfast(Piece of fruit, toast and a drink), Lunch(Salad/sandwich, drink), Dinner(Pasta/Rice, chicken, Veg). Snacks should be light, so a piece of fruit and a drink, or half a sandwich or a yoghurt. Have a drink of water every hour.

Diluted drinks are basically 100% Sugar, so only have one drink of that or fresh Juice a day.

[Asker]

Thank you, I'm going to try and do this. I do shift work as a job so it can be difficult but I'm going to give it a go. Thank you for the advice, I appreciate it so much.

[kheserthorpe]

How much do you weigh, and how tall are you?

What's your morning body temperature?

What's your resting heart rate? How high is it after a few minutes on a treadmill?

If you can't (or won't ) check into those answers, do not f*** around with drugs.

[kheserthorpe]

As a side note, they look overpriced for what's in them. Seriously.

I can't remember yohimbine dosing off hand but I wouldn't be taking it and ephedra at the same time.

The basic way supplement world works is, nothing is proprietary. So what most companies do is grab a bunch of sh*t that might work, throw it in tiny dosages unlikely to cause negative symptoms, build around one or two things with a small benefit, then add a 400% markup and claim they have a unique blend.

[Asker]

I weigh 210 pounds. I am 5ft 6.

I do not know my morning body temperature, I didn't know it was important or how to take it, nobodies ever told me to.

My resting heart rate is between 72-85, depending on how stressed I am that day etc. On the treadmill, the highest I've got to was 175, but I was going for it. My usual tick over workout heart rate is 140.

Trust me, I have looked into it.

[Asker]

Also, I am very muscular. At the gym doing leg weights I can take about 60kg on my legs.

[kheserthorpe]

Okay. Interested in body temp when you can check. I'm trying to see signs of metabolic slow down due to dieting - not seeing glaring ones tbh. The best use of an EC stack (and what you're looking at is basically an EC stack with some other marginal stuff lobbed in to jack price) is to offset slowdown from dieting.

Few other ideas. If you message me I can suggest - but fair warning I'm not a professional!

[Asker]

I will find out my morning temp for you. When I was a teenager I struggled with eating disorders, I used to be a lot bigger than I am now, and someone told me that if you have had eating disorders your metabolism is screwed? My dad and my brother have really slow ones as well..

[Anonymous]

There is simply NO WAY for you to be exercising 6 hours a week, and eating under 1000 calories a day, and not be losing weight.

That is just not possible.

NOT POSSIBLE.

There is obviously something else going on here, which you're not telling us.

Example - your metabolism is already f***ed from years of abuse.

- you're 4' 6" and weigh less than 40kg.

- your Doctor is Doctor Nick Riviera from The Simpsons

- you can't count calories worth a damn

- you're highly anorexic and just don't think you're losing weight

Seriously, what you describe is simply not physically possible. You might as well say you jumped out of a window and flapped your arms and flew. It is just not possible.

[jacquesvol]

You're buying it on the internet, from a company which seems to be in Asia link

KEEP AWAY from that kind of poison.

[jacquesvol]

It contains ephedra: link

[jacquesvol]

Status

2/6/04 Ephedra banned

Serious Side Effects

Heart Attack

Stroke

Tachycardia

Psychosis

Coma

Respiratory depression

[kheserthorpe]

During its heyday, it was prescribed to almost 10 million people in denmark. It was discontinued in 2002 as other countries reported ephedrine related problems.

A 2008 study looked back at the danish data and found no elevated risk of cardiovascular events.

link

I'd be interested to see better data then that study.

Can ephedra be dangerous when abused? Yup. And some people do abuse it since the stimulant impact fades with tolerance.

[kheserthorpe]

Of course, ephedrine is cheap, so no big drug companies fight for its use ...

This isn't to defind this online 'firestorm' product though ... only referring to ephedrine.