Should Mariah Carey be legally allowed to trademark herself, for profit, as the "Queen of Christmas"?

[AmandaYVR]

Mariah filed the trademark bid with the U. S. Trademark Office in March 2021, it was made public in July, but has only recently come under scrutiny, as many of her entertainer peers take exception to her attempting to control the phrase.

She hopes to claim myriad merch rights exclusively for herself. "According to the application that was filed, the term would cover a large range of items like lotions, fragrances, jewelry, mugs, clothes, food, ornaments, and of course, music." “She’s trying to trademark this in every imaginable way-clothing, liquor products, masks, dog collars-it’s all over the map,” she said."

Singers have come forward showing their resistance to the trademark claim. Singer Elizabeth Chan officially filed against Carey. Darlene Love and Elizabeth Chan have gone to court to try to stop Carey from monopolizing it. "Christmas has come way before any of us on earth, and hopefully will be around way after any of us on earth,” Chan told Variety. “That’s just not the right thing to do. Christmas is for everyone. It’s meant to be shared; it’s not meant to be owned.”

The trademark is still under legal consideration.

Carey's 1994 album, Merry Christmas, is one of the best-selling Christmas albums of all time. “All I Want for Christmas Is You,” has become one of the biggest songs of the holiday season.

https://nypost.com/2022/08/18/mariah-careys-queen-of-christmas-trademark-upsets-singers/

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62564327

https://variety.com/2022/music/news/mariah-carey-trademark-queen-christmas-darlene-love-elizabeth-chan-1235341993/

Carey’s song “All I Want for Christmas Is You” was released in 1994 and is on the charts each year. It's a very good song, very happy and festive. I always listen to it every year.

But I prefer this one a bit more:

Whose version of 'All I Want For Christmas Is You' do you like better?

No. This is nonsense. No one should be allowed to legally own this title.

Sure. She thought of it first and this is what a capitalist society is about.

No, because someone else deserves it more. (Name that person below.)

Updates

1 y

News Update: "Mariah Carey loses 'Queen of Christmas' trademark dispute. It was rejected after the singer's company did not have a response to another singer's opposition. 'Q of C' and 'Princess of Christmas' were also rejected."

[Lliam]

Self proclaimed Queen? How pathetic. "Look how 'alpha' I am." What an ego!
It's different if someone else refers to you as the queen of something. I mean, Elvis was called the King of Rock and Roll, but he didn't trade mark the title.

And "Queen of Christmas" is just wrong. Wow, she recorded a hit Christmas song once. Get over it.
She's doing it for commercial reasons which are antithetical to the spirit of Christmas. She may as well call herself the Queen of shallow Commercialism.
She can call herself whatever she wants, but she shouldn't be allowed to trademark the title. She didn't invent, nor does she own the rights, to Christmas.

Any regard I had for her just plummeted.

[AmandaYVR]

Yesssssss! My thoughts exactly. Disgusting.

[DermalPunch]

Well Christmas is pretty much shallow commercialism so... it fits.

[pers0n]

Christmas is the celebration of sacrificial castration.
Is Christmas a grotesque practice? ↗
And Elvis Presley was an occult androgyne tranny 100000%. Elvis was the queen.
Mariah Carey on the other hand, appears to be a straight woman. That's a rare exception for a celebrity as most of them are from the elite gender inverted hatchery.
All I know is whatever she does, I have more respect for than some baphomet androgyne like elvis or elvis's husband.

[pers0n]

Know what? I just heard of this Mariah the first time. Might as well be a tranny MTF with fat implants. Doesn't look like a human woman either.

[John1972]

Sure, and since we are at it let's go ahead and get a few more. We can trademark Dolly Pardon as the Queen of Titties, Larry Flint as the King Of Titties, and I'll grab the crown for the Emperor of Sarcasm my son he can be the Prince of Bad Jokes

[Bethany22]

Someone else older than her should be the Queen of Christmas.

[Belgie]

If it annoys the christians, go for it.

[Valso]

Knowing the sheep, they'll most likely accept her. Whether it's a king of queen of Sexmas, they long to be ruled bc they can't make a single decision on their own - even when it's about their own lives. Let's not forget that in the bullshit book the deity is often referred to as "lord" which is another word for "master" or "king".

[Valso]

* "king OR queen" in the second sentence.

[NewtoTheSouth]

Why do you like to annoy people?

[Belgie]

@NewtoTheSouth I don't. I just don't care if someone else annoys Christians.

[bayoubomber]

@Belgie We know who you voted for!!! LOLZ.

[Belgie]

@bayoubomber No you don't.

[bayoubomber]

@Belgie Yes I do. You didn't vote for Orangeman Rad. If you can show any respect to saying I don't know. You voted 3rd party or NOT AT ALL!!! Weee doggies. But you wanted to oust the Orangeman Rad. Did you not? Or well you rock out and tell me you didn't do such a thing?

[bayoubomber]

If you are real respectable, you did indeed Vote Orangeman Rad!!!

[Belgie]

@bayoubomber you dumbfuck. Like I said, you don't know who I voted for. You don't even know what parties I support...

[bayoubomber]

@Belgie You want to annoy Christians. What have they done to you? I'm not religious at all. A lot of my best friends are religious, and they damn well know I'm agnostic at best. They don't care. I respect the fact they are Christian. It's called Freedom. Not only that, they are indeed some of the best people that I know. There is a reason why Europeans that visit our Country respect the religious here. It's far more of a community. If you lived here, you would see that. How many times have I visited funerals, or weddings, or simply doing the community thing, where you can join them and do a hundred other things that pertains not to religion at all? I did the stupid thing of assuming you were American. Why do you all give a damn about anything that does not pertain to your own Country?

[Belgie]

@bayoubomber "You want to annoy Christians. What have they done to you?"

Shove their beliefs down peoples throats, for starters? Promote bigotry hatred and child abuse?

"Why do you all give a damn about anything that does not pertain to your own Country?"

Fuck me for caring about people in another country. I'm such an asshole. Didn't Jesus himself say Care about others unless they are foreigners, right? Wasn't that it?

I should just be a pure Nationalist and Christian, right? A good old Nat-C like Trump, Taylor, Green, De Santis, Cruz et al. I mean, it's not like ignoring Nat-Cs hasn't worked out badly for the rest of the world in the past.

Twit.

[bayoubomber]

@Belgie I agree on the premise of Missionaries. They shouldn't be shoving anything down anyone's throat. I really don't care if they do it in our own Country. If they try to do it elsewhere in the World? Then they must entertain the fact that indigenous tribes will kill them. Here in my Country? You can ignore them. Just like a Jehova's Witness comes to my door? I say NO THANK YOU. They go on their merry way.

[bayoubomber]

Mormons in Utah can do what they will. Fantastic. They can visit Georgia and try to instill their livelihoods. They can have many wives. I don't care. If they want the Culthood I don't care. So, many people say it's wrong, so many people have died as a result. If you are that damn stupid to be brainwashed, that is upon YOU! To say, that you can't have a mind of your own is dumb.

[bayoubomber]

I would argue that you are brainwashed. What America is and foremost about is freedom. It's kind of why we exist, especially in the realm of religion. We also have a law that says "The first amendment to the US Constitution states "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." It's precisely why Gay's can be married. Upon other things. Yes, we aren't perfect. But, we strive to get better every day. Separation of State and Church.

[nolabels]

Legally allowed to make a bid to trademark herself? Whatever the law allows is fair game. If successful, she'll reap what she has sown.

in my opinion, those kinds of titles are never to be self-claimed, only bestowed upon individuals by appreciative fans.

Carey's bidding for that title only reinforces the image that I associate with her diva behavior.

Regardless of my opinion, I'm glad for you that you enjoy her song!

My first thought for a fan-bestowed title of Queen of Christmas would be Martina McBride. I think that her Christmas album and Christmas duets are the best there are to be heard.

I saw her Christmas show live back in the early 2000s. Opening her performance, she stumbled a bit as she descended a staircase while singing. She stopped singing, the band stopped playing, she said, "I'm such a klutz", then started over. The audience loved her for her 'I'm a human being just like everyone else' humility. Later in the show she invited all of the little kids in the audience to come up front for a few songs, taking several minutes to do so, entertaining the audience with small talk as the group of kids formed. It was magical.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/zFxpWtVRUMkhttps://www.youtube.com/embed/3KK6sMo8NBYhttps://www.youtube.com/embed/-y6F75TBi2A

Happy Holidays to all!

[NathanDavis]

yes... if she wants to start a brand under such a tacky trademark, then yes... she does have to file for the proper copyright trademarks, under that tacky name for her brand

she is not claiming ownership of the title, and she certainly is not attempting to OWN THE WHOLE Christmas season either

she just wants to sell stuff under a tacky name, which, has to be properly registered

now, if any other celebrity thinks that they are "Queener" than Mariah Carey, then, well... good luck in court with that, just get the good and right lawyers to make a case for it and that is it, lol

[NathanDavis]

lost the dispute without even responding to it in the first place... lmao, that just points to yet another marketing move, free advertising

just make it viral and make people talk about it, and it works lmao... high chances that without this post here at G@G I would have not found out about this at all

[AmandaYVR]

I completely disagree.
She wanted it to go through, because she's a f'ing diva and thinks very highly of herself, and values money. More money. She doesn't have enough already?
They evidently did not respond because there IS no response/justification for such a ridiculous request/claim.

[NathanDavis]

you just see things differently and from a personal point of view, and it is fine

I just see things from a practical point of view, and aligned with many other attempts like these, people make noise to get attention, this is "free" advertising, much more cheaper than any actual marketing campaign for whatever she is going to sell yet again, another Christmas

[Moose304]

She may get the trademark, but most likely be unable to enforce it. The Trademark Office and the US District courts are 100% different. I remember a trademark case about 30 years ago that was something like this. The person was attempting to enforce a cease and desist order, the Federal Judge tossed the case. It will be interesting to watch this play out.

[TroyDT2]

Exactly. In this case she's also have to contend with Liz Chan, who was called that by The New Yorker in 2018 and Darlene Love was called that like 30 years ago.

www.newyorker.com/.../the-queen-of-christmas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zug9oYygMOQ

[TroyDT2]

she''ll not she's

[PamelaRivers]

How can you be "Queen" of a holiday that is world wide? No one person should be able to claim something that equally belongs to everyone on Earth.

[SnowedIn]

I voted A but C is equally appropriate. What about Bing Crosby? Or the Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree singer? Or the Boston pops? This is sad and absurd. No one should get such a title.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

I mean, if coca cola tried to do that 15 years ago, everyone would have thought it was great.

But when Mariah Kerry decides she wants to make money off a title that let's be honest, suits her better than probably anyone else alive today, it's evil and selfish.

This is why people suck.

[Kaytiee]

I mean I don't really care personally, but I guess at most it does come off as a bit self absorbed.

[Somoneelse]

She can try but I don't really see the need to get such a title. It feels a bit like a scream for attention.

[TroyDT2]

Nope. Liz Chan released a CD almost a decade ago with basically that name.

[Lynx122]

I think she's repulsive. The most significant thing she did in her life is almost have sex with eminem and then get destroyed by him on a song so hard she shut up about him for ever. Everything else about her is pretty gross.

[19magic]

I was about to type something but then I realise that mine was so Britney spears and Mariah Carey I think he's cute but he's married to Kim hehe so I can argue over who she gave head to first lol

[AmandaYVR]

Strange to think of them together. I can't imagine they would like each other at all.
I know she has the reputation of being a diva. I've never heard any specifics. I've never liked her, I only like that one song, that's it. She seems right on brand here though.

[Lynx122]

Yes lol it is strange

[Jamie05rhs]

Damn, Lynx. You're savage lol.

[HaveNoName]

In my view, the only badge she deserves is to be a designated tool to check the hearing of dogs and cats with those meaningless high pitch shrieking.

[AviatorTom]

Mary, the Mother of Jesus, is already the Queen of Christmas. Mariah is too late.

[Valso]

Sure. If she wants to be a laughing stock and known as Queen of the Bullshit, that's her business.

[Becky316]

Hell No! If I hear "ALL I WANT FOR Christmas" 1 more time I'll scream!!!

[Jamie05rhs]

Well, she kinda is...

But as far as legal trademarks, no.
No one owns Christmas. (Except Jesus. Lol)

[JPresidente]

Good grief these celebrities and their egos just get out of control sometimes. While this song only shares the same title, I prefer this one:

https://youtu.be/w8HWHd0EYJA

[misfittoy]

its silliness, but i have to give her credit she has milked that song for decades. she's no dummy.

[chocolatesinpockets]

Who's the trademarked King of Christmas then, if anyone? 🤨

[19magic]

Probably Lionel Richie did, I mean he did do ten Christmas songs in a row just so he can get a number one hit

[AmandaYVR]

Santa?

[PainusNdeeAnus]

More like Queen Of Thanksgiving Good lord!

Her chair turned around so slow on the voice

[Msputiton]

At first i was like seems fine. But when it covers almost everything that sells during Christmas, it seems pretty wrong.

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

Sure. She thought of it first and this is what a capitalist society is about.

[bayoubomber]

I'll tell you this much. The Vikings should be bitching. 7-1. Our record is not representative. We are the Queens of everything. The Vikings should have first rights for Queens of Christmas. Period.

[exitseven]

Queen of Soul, Queen of Christmas, Whats the difference.

[TroyDT2]

Aretha was proclaimed that by a famous DJ and even though I prefer Mavis Staples personally, I have never heard anyone really dispute it. Mariah is "self-proclaiming" a title that was bestowed upon Darlene Love three decades ago and which the New Yorker bestowed upon Elizabeth Chan in 2018.

[AdithyaR]

I honestly could not care less. It's not even a common topic in my area so it doesn't matter to me.

[AngryCarl]

It's a meaningless title, so I say let her have it. If she's not Queen of Christmas, who is?

[DermalPunch]

It really makes sense.

[AmandaYVR]

lol. How so?

[DermalPunch]

Baby all I want for Christmas is practically a hymn at this point.

[Bellona]

This is disrespectful to me as a Catholic

[Andres77]

Still a selfish diva

[legalboxers]

well she is technically

[AmandaYVR]

Technically? Uh, no.

[dustybiker]

Wow. Ego.

[AmandaYVR]

Indeed. It's blowing the roof off.

[Anonymous]

Sure. She's a narcissist anyway.

[panamared1]

I really dislike this, but it is legal