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Why should you care that gays now have marriage equality, if you're not gay? (Page 2)
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I care because I have male friends that are gay, and I will support their right to be treated equal. No one has the right to prevent them from getting married. I would also support black people, as the colour of your skin won't be judged by me.
Unfortunately in Australia we are still trying to tell our loser of a Prime Minister that it's time to legalise gay marriage.
That's very much part of it. Even if you aren't a part of the other side yourself, you can put yourself in their shoes much the way some whites did in the struggle for civil rights. Change, whether that be civil rights or gay rights, takes time. Sometimes it just takes seeing someone else go through it first, before changes can happen for your own country.
exactly my thoughts!
We should all have equal rights around the whole world. I don't need to be black or gay to know that these people have feelings too. We need to love one another more and ditch the hate. Unfortunately that will never happen because there are malicious people out there, but more people should strive to see past the sexual orientation or colour of a person and love them for who they are.
Yes you are right! It shouldn't bother us because such nonsense can never happen in any African country.
I only worry for the legacy we are passing to our younger generation. We can and should never blame them. Sometime ago it was regarded as a mental disorder now we say it id right. Well congratulations on this one.
I'm ready for your slunders and insults but that can never change me. I don't hate nor fear homosexuals. What I hate is what they do.
'What they do'? Can you clarify?
I owe no one clarification.
Because if I'm privilaged enough to be able to marry someone even tho I'm agnostic then anyone who wants to marry should.
The problem is not civil rights, it is an attack on the bible and God's teaching who first created the sacrament of marriage. Do you think man thought of this on his own. The maid of honor serves a role, the best man serves a role. As little as 50 years ago, gay did not exist and 80 years ago cars were rare. Federal highways did not exist 50 years ago, with this said, Marriage has existed over 3000 years and has always been between a man and woman. The easiest way to destroy a belief in God is to defile his sacrament of marriage first by destroying the vows, second take the 2nd worst sin, Adultry and make it a slap on the hand or now a hand shake, and take the words "in God we Trust", place this on the money with the eye of lucifer next to it showing which God the USA trust.
God said marriage is between a man and woman and now two same sex people are going to push and make it ok to destroy the church.
50 years ago? You might want to pick up a history book as the first documented knowledge of homosexuality is noted in Ancient Greece. I've never understood why biblical people feel as though someone who is gay is an attack on the church. You are going to believe what you believe no matter what, right. A gay person isn't going to make a church or a person who isn't gay, gay. The only people who "turn gay" are people who are already gay, so if you are heterosexual, you will remain so just as they are homosexual, and will remain so. You can wax on about how gays are the only problem with Christianity, but you have pedophiles, adulterers, fathers not in the home, babies out of wedlock, incest, rape, murder... walk on down the sin list. Christianity isn't perfect and neither are its people (the same for any other religion or people out there), so just because you're a Christian doesn't make you good or perfect.
Yes, let's make assumptions that gays are now going to destroy everything you hold dear.
You are the problem.
An attack on the Bible? So what, the Bible isn't part of the Constitution. (see the 1st Amendment, see art 11 of the Treaty of Trimpoli: avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/bar1796t.asp )
The Bible reflects the primitive age mentality. Back then, child mortality was high, the tribes were fighting all the time, needed new births to replace those who died and they couldn't like couples which were guaranteed , not to multiply.
@parkway see above /i\
Because they force it into churches, and if the church obeys the bible the church is sued and labeled as bigoted. People can do what they want but don't force it onto people that is against it. How many Christian businesses were damaged already due to not compromising the bible. Quite a few.
Damaged? They can run whatever business they like, but that does not give them the right to discriminate based on something completely irrelevant to the transaction, like age, race, gender, religion, or sexuality. If they discriminate based on completely irrelevant criteria, they should be sued and driven out of business. Imagine the uproar if a business started rejecting women and black people.
Churches ARE bigoted by definition.
Christian bakery forced to bake for a homosexual wedding or sued so its forced to close? www.foxnews.com/.../...itivity-training-after.html
First, religion is protected under the 1st Amendment. Churches cannot be forced to preform gay marriages. They can be sued all they want, but the other party will lose because religious right in this country is protected. Second, know your history. There have been several incidents throughout this countries history, the most notable one being the Stonewall riots, that rose up because police were targeting gay bars and gay businesses, performing illegal searches, humiliating and arresting gays, and shutting down their businesses for simply being gay... and these are places that were specifically for gay persons to hang out with other gay persons, i. e., not in your face, not "flaunting" as some say, their gayness to you. So let's make that distinction as well.
Read my original post. I did not say they flaunt it in your face. But note gay pride parades all over the world. If it recommends demographics why isn't there 10 times more straight pride parades.
I agree 100%, a group of people finally have their natural rights they have been entilted to since birth, this isn't a "liberal victory" or "conservative loss" Its an American victory, that all groups now have equal rights. This is a well deserved victory for the gay couples and another triumph in the American way
I'm personally straight and I do support gay rights and gay peo however MARRIAGE is a religions bond between a man and a woman in many different religions. I can understand allowing gays to sign legal documents for economic reasons (ie: mortgage, credit card etc) but to be married before a priest man on man or woman on woman just totally goes against the religion altogether. I'm not even a religious person either. It doesn't bother me to be honest but it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
A gay couple does not require a religious wedding. They only require a government issued marriage license to be considered legally married.
I am Catholic, and I know the Church will take another lifetime to resolve this issue. Fortunately we live by civil laws that make the difference.
You should care because one of the founding principles of this country is equal rights for everyone and as a citizen it is your duty to up hold the principles this country was founded on.
No it wasn't. Our country was founded on the backs of slaves, and free workers that couldn't vote because they had to be land owners to vote.
equality for all? Obviously this is a lie and is misleading. You can't say equal until incest and many other relationships can receive equality.
Equality for all is a BS slogan. The gays supporters and gays only care about themselves. Everyone else doesn't matter.
i will never support this crap. If they have to be X'd out because of it so be it. Being gay is a choice. If not then the whole law of attraction is flawed.
The reason you should care is because you think the government's job is to enforce religious laws, and you think that something not being illegal is tantamount to endorsement and encouragement of said thing.
It's because you don't know why the church and state should be separate, and you're the only person who's reading the Bible correctly.
This is the biggest, dumbest, non-issue ever.
1. My church and others will now be forced to officiate gay weddings - which we do not support or recognize as an actual marriage
2. Public schools will begin teaching our children that same sex relationships are normal and ok, I personally don't agree with that and I won't raise my kids to think that.
3. My tax money will inevitably go to paying for homosexuals despite opposing their lifestyle and choiced, hell it probably already does honestly.
1) no your churches will not be forced to officiate gay weddings. This decision applies very specifically to the government and whether the government can pass laws that discriminate. It has nothing to do with religion.
2) there's been nothing preventing schools from doing so already, as being gay precedes the concept of gay marriage, yet there has been no widespread change in official curriculum to add classes about homosexuality. The change in public opinion has come socially, not from schools.
3) my tax money goes to support people like you even though I don't like your views. That's called democracy, bud.
this is so disgustingly bigoted.
1. where does a marriage equality law say that your church will have to officiate gay marriage? all the passing of the law said was that the US government will recognize homosexual marriages
2. schools will be teaching that same sex relationships is normal? again where in the law does it state that this will happen. since when do schools teach kids about marriage anyway? but since a school is a place for education don't you think they should inform kids of the reality of the world. yes gay people do exist and beating them up is not ok... ooooo that's just terrible
3. your tax money? your tax money goes to provide housing for convicts, goes towards welfare, medicare, social security... by your disgusting logic black people still shouldn't be allowed to legally get married because it may affect your taxes? since when to taxes trump civil rights?
Churches will inevitably be forced to officate gay marriages, don't act like its not going to happen. It is already happening other places.
It will never happen because the church controls the church not the government. And unless the church change their views they will never have to officiate same sex marriages.
" My church and others will now be forced to officiate gay weddings - which we do not support or recognize as an actual marriage"
That's really interesting and it never occured to me! Do you honestly know any churches where this happened?
No @CandyandPinkCats he doesn't. He thinks it will "inevitably" happen. Which it won't, because same sex marriage is only to do with the government, not the church, and the government cannot force the church to officiate gay marriages.
Funny, thelibertarianrepublic.com/.../
@DaddyRollingStone slippery slope fallacy: www.nizkor.org/.../slippery-slope.html
Does that make it untrue though?
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
They won't come for me! I'll be with them
@Dandeus the well known Niemoller text. :)
Quite a bit of peoples problems aren't religious in nature or bigotry towards Gays. Some people are worried about the fact the judicial system took legislative action. I'm for gay marriage but I don't think it was legalized the right way. It's nice that it's legal but peoples disdain for gay marriage is no less than it was 10 years ago. They just have to put up with it now. Changing laws doesn't change hearts.
Because it makes you popular to agree with everyone else on hot topic issues, and if you don't TELL them you agree and are just a good person in secret, what do you get out of it? (the mindset of every hypocritical asshole on the planet)
I care because the prohibition on same-sex marriage was causing a lot of people unnecessarily pain. I'm happy it's over and same-sex couples can be legally married.
I agree with @nov_284
Being Gay isn't something that should be considered healthy or normal, and we also shouldn't be celebrating homosexuality
The answer is simple. Being gay is against nature. God prohibits it. Its not right it's disgusting and it's simply not natural. There are women out there that god has created for us to have sexual intercourse and relations with. Indulging in such a vile sin is unacceptable.
you don't have to do it then
Get off your computer, it's unnatural and made by an atheist.
I thought humans were part of nature, or am I wrong? Hundreds of species of animals engage in homosexul behaviour too, explain how its not natural if its part of nature, Idiot
We are humans not animals. Why would you engage in sex with a male when there are plenty of beautiful females out there. Yes. There's a good reason why God has created females for us males. Don't compare humans to animals. And if you're going to say humans are mammals screw that so what--we have a brain we're superior--and the correct logic is not to have sex with males--but sure if you're gay go ahead. No one's stopping you. Also this isn't a scientific debate that was just my opinion.
As I recall, everything in the kingdom of animalia has a brain... And dolphins are nearly as intelligent as humans, as much as we can study of them. And other animals are fully capable of showing emotion, having memories, communicating in groups... Are you saying a vegetative, comatose person with little mental activity and being brain-dead isn't human and suddenly an animal because even house pets have a higher level of brain activity than them? Oh, and what about ALL great apes showing signs of homosexuality, and many, many, MANY more animals, in fact, basically every animal that has been observed for lengths of time to see how they behave as a society? So very against nature, and humans aren't nature, yeah... The correct logic is that animals are sexual beings, and only a couple thousand years ago did humans start being monogamous in the hopes of better chances to reproduce as a species and grow and populate. We were polygamous, bisexual animals just like everything else.
Meh. . . whatever.
Umm women and colored people are natural. Homosexuality is not.
my friend read this on the internet.
"If you watch lesbian porn at least twice in one day then you're not allowed to complain about gay marriage"
hahaa
Equality, and the banishment of discrimination, is good for society in general. it takes a certain person to be happy for others. :)