Women are fickle, I don't trust any to be capable of leading an everlasting relationship. That, plus I find people whose goal in life is to "get married and have kids" as astoundingly unattractive.
And I don't blame those women, it is just not how I see my future like. I see marriage and having kids as something you can do after you have achieved everything you wanted in your life rather than the thing you want to "achieve".
@Transigence I mean we worry much and we don't take responsibilities... And fear of losing some values in our lifes hinder us from marriage but I do believe we need to take risks to catch peace with her :)
I guess I have to disagree. We don't have to take more risks, because we don't have to get married. Marriage isn't for men -- it doesn't benefit men in any way. Marriage (post "no-fault divorce," and post "tender years doctrine," anyway) only benefits women, so by not getting married you have successfully managed your risks.
Men realize that their "hand" or a "fleshlight" is soooo cheap or affordable than a real pussy. And a pussy becomes more expensive when it vomits a baby.
Prenups get thrown out in court all the time. They really don't offer as much protection as people think. Even if the guy does get the prenup up held, it can cost him more in legal fees than it would have to just let the woman take what she wanted in the first place.
How do you get married and not mix the money together? Have two different houses? In many marriages it takes two paychecks just to pay for the house now. There are also marriages where one might not work at all, or not make nearly as much. You can't expect one partner to be left with nothing, because they agreed to stay home and take care of the house like their spouse wanted. There are too many variables to not mix the money. Even then children will legally tie their financial obligations to each other. In addition to this alimony is still a possibility, even if both people make their own money, simply because of the way the laws are still written in some places.
Children is normally what hurts most guys in divorce. Divorces where there are no children, men are just as likely to file for divorce as women. I forget the exact number, but women are nearly the only ones filing for divorce when they have children, because the courts are very unfair to men, on the issue of child custody. This is why women more often file for divorce on average than men are.
What makes it worse the more custody he loses the more money he has to pay. So if the woman wants more money, all she has to do is take more time from his kid. Some women even make it as hard as possible for the guy to see his kid, by placing them in schools, and daycare on the other side of town, so he might not be able to pick them up after work. Then when the mother proves the guy isn't seeing his kid enough, he loses more custody, and she has an excuse to take more money. It is a corrupt system that claims to be for the benefit of the child, when it is clearly not.
heavensgift2girls oh yeah, of course the bills would be mixed together. I meant separate property that wasn't added to the martial funds. and divorce can be so complicated... but there's really nothing else someone can do otherwise?
Love the take, I agree with a lot of it in some parts of the west a women can still cheat on you and take your but to the bank in court and lets be honest no body wants that.
I know a military guy that went overseas. His wife cheated on him with multiple men. When he came back, she divorced him. He now pays 50% in child support/alimony (she got the kids and house of course.) She moved her boyfriend into the house. So this guy is paying to support his horrible ex wife and her new boyfriend. Not only that, he has to pay her alimony until she remarries or dies. Anyone else feeling the urge to rush to the alter to sign up for that?
That falls under the header of "divorce court." I don't think that most women set out just to take a man's money in marriage. I think at the end of a marriage, both parties are generally pissed at each other and it's the woman that holds all the means to put the screws to the man via divorce court.
In the example I gave, I don't necessarily think she cheated to come out on top financially, but she did and she's also a horrible person for being ok with putting someone in that position. Especially the father (hopefully) of her children.
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I never had a choice in the matter but the whole court, lossing your kids and child support are spot on
It has been sais before here but I think imma say it now. There just isn't anything that marriage has that most men would want.
I am married and I swore I would never marry but my wife is such a sweetheart.
Women are fickle, I don't trust any to be capable of leading an everlasting relationship.
That, plus I find people whose goal in life is to "get married and have kids" as astoundingly unattractive.
Some women want to be defined by their relationship status but we are all not the same
And I don't blame those women, it is just not how I see my future like. I see marriage and having kids as something you can do after you have achieved everything you wanted in your life rather than the thing you want to "achieve".
completely agree
I can take any risk to marry;the problem is there isn't any suitable candidate lol...
Nice take :) Men must take more risks ;)
Why must we take such risks?
@Transigence I mean we worry much and we don't take responsibilities... And fear of losing some values in our lifes hinder us from marriage but I do believe we need to take risks to catch peace with her :)
I guess I have to disagree. We don't have to take more risks, because we don't have to get married. Marriage isn't for men -- it doesn't benefit men in any way. Marriage (post "no-fault divorce," and post "tender years doctrine," anyway) only benefits women, so by not getting married you have successfully managed your risks.
I still do believe in love...
You can be in love and NOT get married. The two are not mutually exclusive.
Men realize that their "hand" or a "fleshlight" is soooo cheap or affordable than a real pussy. And a pussy becomes more expensive when it vomits a baby.
People need to get off the Fleshlight thing. Fleshlights are junk. Get a Vibratex Maven Male Sex Sleeve.
For me I won't ever get married because the risk far outways the benifits of getting married.
When something pays off less, you will get less of it.
Makes me think of "Dear Future Husband" by Meaghan Trainor :D
Lol, I see those points and some are understandable.
This makes me feel better about being a bachelorette.
I think we should embrace sex with as many clean partners as we can, someday the world may count on us.
I thought the prenup thing solved all of the legal stuff?
To an extent. It protects what you had before getting married.
Prenups get thrown out in court all the time. They really don't offer as much protection as people think. Even if the guy does get the prenup up held, it can cost him more in legal fees than it would have to just let the woman take what she wanted in the first place.
@heavensgift2girls so there's literally nothing someone can do? what about just not mixing the $ together?
How do you get married and not mix the money together? Have two different houses? In many marriages it takes two paychecks just to pay for the house now. There are also marriages where one might not work at all, or not make nearly as much. You can't expect one partner to be left with nothing, because they agreed to stay home and take care of the house like their spouse wanted. There are too many variables to not mix the money. Even then children will legally tie their financial obligations to each other. In addition to this alimony is still a possibility, even if both people make their own money, simply because of the way the laws are still written in some places.
Children is normally what hurts most guys in divorce. Divorces where there are no children, men are just as likely to file for divorce as women. I forget the exact number, but women are nearly the only ones filing for divorce when they have children, because the courts are very unfair to men, on the issue of child custody. This is why women more often file for divorce on average than men are.
What makes it worse the more custody he loses the more money he has to pay. So if the woman wants more money, all she has to do is take more time from his kid. Some women even make it as hard as possible for the guy to see his kid, by placing them in schools, and daycare on the other side of town, so he might not be able to pick them up after work. Then when the mother proves the guy isn't seeing his kid enough, he loses more custody, and she has an excuse to take more money. It is a corrupt system that claims to be for the benefit of the child, when it is clearly not.
heavensgift2girls oh yeah, of course the bills would be mixed together. I meant separate property that wasn't added to the martial funds. and divorce can be so complicated... but there's really nothing else someone can do otherwise?
9) Chicks would rather date a rotting cactus than me.
those are some pretty decent reasons i must say. it's up to the involved parties to make it not like that.
Love the take, I agree with a lot of it in some parts of the west a women can still cheat on you and take your but to the bank in court and lets be honest no body wants that.
I know a military guy that went overseas. His wife cheated on him with multiple men. When he came back, she divorced him. He now pays 50% in child support/alimony (she got the kids and house of course.) She moved her boyfriend into the house. So this guy is paying to support his horrible ex wife and her new boyfriend. Not only that, he has to pay her alimony until she remarries or dies. Anyone else feeling the urge to rush to the alter to sign up for that?
Hold up I never said anything about women cheating and taking men to court
That falls under the header of "divorce court." I don't think that most women set out just to take a man's money in marriage. I think at the end of a marriage, both parties are generally pissed at each other and it's the woman that holds all the means to put the screws to the man via divorce court.
In the example I gave, I don't necessarily think she cheated to come out on top financially, but she did and she's also a horrible person for being ok with putting someone in that position. Especially the father (hopefully) of her children.
"Dating is easy"
Almost made it all the way through this
Yup, very true. This is why I'm never proposing to my girlfriend.
thing is, none of this has to happen. this is completely reversed from how things should'a been.
wear a condom? get married in a jurisdiction with fair matrimony laws?
*says in sarcastic voice* nope you are asking too much lol
may be simple, but then people can choose to be fathers...