It's not something that's anywhere near normal in Sweden unless you're comitted religiously to a tradition where you're 'supposed' to be a housewife, which is uncommon yet still present.
But I believe in support in learning the skills required to do that too. Usually it's better to support in their interests to make sure they can thrive with their identity or life-choices, it makes for good family-relations. I'm sure if she changes her mind then there is some useful lessons there too.
I'd recommend her to take cooking lessons, household-economy, psychology and like other basic courses that would make her well rounded to fit into a healthy support-role.
And if she decides to go another direction later, you know there are lesser workplaces where those skills are useful too, minimum pay is still something to survive on here and can be a 'good enough' compliment to her partner.
Here in Sweden, college or "further education" is payed by the government as an investmen for the general good of the nation, skilled labour is always needed. So she can always start getting another education if need be, with minimal loans for rent and food, or just have a summerjob.
It's great to hear how other countries live and thanks for the insight. Eduction in things that would be useful for a home maker is a great idea and like you said are skills that can useful in the workforce to.
I think America has a lot of things wrong and it's leading us in a bad direction with far too much division. We go into debt for education and it often takes decades to pay it off, and in some cases don't even use the eduction for decent paying jobs nor the good of society.
While I hear a lot of thing going on in America, Sweden is not perfect though, we are spoiled to hell and social media with the echochambers and polarization, it's not good for democracy.
The system is so beneficial to us and we have so many safety-nets that we're losing our solidarity and people that would actually put in real work.
We are being naive right now, as soon as my parents and their generation goes.. I hope someone will step in to do it right, because I don't have all that much faith in my generation. We didn't have to work really, we have so much to do that ain't being done.
It's like, people assume that the system will keep taking care of them, that it won't stop, that they can keep exploiting without there being consequences.
We've been idealists for too long, now we need to grow up and become doers.
But on the topic of housewives, I mean it's a support-role, if there's going to be a person staying home I'd want that person to be smart about it. So like, think about the economy, about child psychology and be proffessional about it. No point being ignorant about the responsabilities of being at home🙂.
But I'm not really promoting housewives generally, like said It's not the general way here. We usually share the load, both mom and dad has payed parent-leave for 10weeks eacj I think.. they can choose when to invest those.
Both work, both raise.
It's not always greener, just different shades of green right. Each country has is issues but some make it harder then others. You have some great words of wisdom!
Yes, exactly. Yet, through-out time there have been and will be many times when some countries does better than others, for a while. Mindsets, way of life and politics swing like a pendulum back and forth looking for the sweet-spot.
Hopefully the system don't break to accomodate corruption along the way, but it just isn't perfect and it always comes back to who is willing to stand up for their values and put in the work while staying openminded. Or let those who are just in it for power and money exploit it into the ground.
Thanks, I just overthink a lot and over-analyse things, then edit what I write, it's rarely a spontaineously good comment.
But it always it's much more fulfilling to look for the deeper meanings in things.
Alongside supporting, I would encourage her to be a housewife.
Really! How come?
I strongly agree!
Yes and she must also have other useful skills to past on to her future children.
stay at home moms jobs are much more important and not being paid.
1. cook 2. clean 3. Know how to manage finances for the household to become better than the current or past 4. Teach kids manners. 5. Be an emotional support to the husband. 6. Be a good communicator to the kids and the husband 7. Be able to kow how to entertain the family and friends. 8. teach kids cooking, cleaning skills … it’s a job that’s worth $500k a year.…
those I don’t enougar are girls want to grow up and be stay home moms and have the tv on all day for the kids
put kids on the iPads. House a mess, She has no clue how to manage bills, gets the family into debts…etc…
so men… Becareful when picking out that woman to be your kids mom.
no. be your own person. your whole life doesn't depend on taking care of your husband who is more than able to do so himself. get your own job. make your own money. you don't want to be stuck with no money if things go south. seriously. that's the worst mistake you can make is just staying at home all day with no job, no experience, no path in life, no real purpose...
i'm surprised and scared for the future that that many people said they'd support that... awful...
I will have to disagree. A housewife is raising the future. She is definatly showing huge purpose if you ask me. But I understand its not for everyone
you can also be a housewife without children tho
Yeah there I agree its no purpose. I meant with kids. I could have been more clear
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What a child or even a teenager sets as a goal usually doesn't indicate what they will do as an adult, career-wise. I would listen politely and forget about it.
Do you see an issue with aspiring to be a housewife? Is that in your opinion, a lowly goal?
@Slingshot69: It's not realistic in today's world to aspire to it. If she and her future husband can afford to do that, great, but she needs to ensure she can support herself and help support her family if necessary.
It's sad that it takes two incomes to raise a family, when it wasn't that long ago that one full time job could support a large family, get a brand new home with land, vehicles, and not experience the trials of poverty. We had that life once, we can have it again
@Slingshot69 yes! I hope this generation opens their eyes to it because now people are working so hard and barely living.
Of course, as a parent, I want my children to be who and what they want to be.
u Absolutely! More women need to accept that challenge and accept the reality that it is the most meaningful thing they can accomplish in their lives!
If I'd had a daughter I'd support what ever she wanted to do. There is nothing wrong with a woman wanting to be a housewife, no matter what Feminists would have you believe it can be one of the toughest jobs on the planet, especially when there are children in the household, on top of the housework, paying bills, etc, she is also is the primary teacher for those children getting them started with the basics of manners, writing and maths long before they get to a school, and add cooking & baking, If it was not for my mother and grandmothers I would not have been as independent as I turned out to be.
Thank you! Seams like more men understand this than women!
I'm from a time when women did not have ideas forced upon them by the current wave of feminists. I know one woman who drive those feminists round the bend, she and her husband have nine children, they run a Hill Farm with around 500 head of sheep, on top of that she is a published writer and photographer, and one of the happiest people I know.
that's amazing! Didn't evan know that was possible!
She can do what she'd prefer, but I admit I'd be a little disappointed.
I have one daughter and two on the way (twins), and I'm already seeing them as doctors, politicians, lawyers or working in the family company - we are already setting up trust funds and accounts for their future education.
However they choose, I'll always put my personal feelings aside and support them - I just hope that at least one of them will become the heir I look for, otherwise I'll pick my half-brother.
It’s funny you said that. My sisters boss has 3 daughter and one son (youngest). When the some finally got married and having first grand kid…the grandfather was prsrussing the doctor to make sure it’s a boy!! Turns out…a grand daughter. They were so disappointed. They are still very old fashion and want their funds to be pass to their male heir.
Your twin are girls?
@midnightmoon05 yes, it's confirmed they'll be two girls.
It's not an issue for me, I don't really care if it's a boy or a girl, but I want at least one of them to stand out and follow the path to be my heir.
Are you looking to adopt? Haha
You would be totally fine with a daughter taking over the family business yes? Once your twins come we'll be in the same boat. It's neat seeing each personality develop and each is very different.
@Soldieronmission I would be fine, if she's ready for it and I think It will all be in good hands.
My sister currently has a bigger role than me in the family business (I'm in politics at the moment) and she's doing well, but I received nearly half of my father's estate.
My father hasn't been equal in the inheritance but with good reason, he left everyone what he thought was appropriate, and I will do the same for my children - I won't favor a son over a daughter as my heir if said daughter is more adequate.
Depends on what you call 'support'. If she is really young it would be nothing more than just playing pretend with her (not much more you can do at that point). If she sticks with it for a while and is a bit older the support will become legit. That's also the point where I will give her some important information, just so she can make sure it's what she wants. It's no different from most other ambitions really.
I get the vibe that the asker here is again that christian dude on the pink account.
Who asked this: Why do girls force Christian guys to have sex before marriage? ↗
I guess he needs those guided meditation sessions to stop using a pink anonymous account.
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@RoosterBreast thats not me and im woman. Im simply just asking. I dont think it should be forced at all. Im working myself and im planning to start my company but I would happily be a housewife for the first few years of my future kids life. Cause I've worked in kindergartens and its not a good place for kids.
@reds-noro that would be very nice and helpful of you!
My best friend @wilmareportu is an admin on here so it doesn't matter how many times I'm reported. Haha.
It’s not as cut and dry as you make it seem. My grandfather told my mom (back in the early 70s) she needed to be able to support herself because one never can predict the future; death, divorce, etc. My dad was a police officer and there were many times his life was put in jeopardy. If she had no skills, nothing marketable, she could be destitute. Always ensure you can support yourself no matter the situation. I’ve echoed these same things to my daughter but she doesn’t want to be a mom or a housewife. Still applies though.
Naturally I'd support her , but I would also run though all the positives and negatives with her , fortunately there is zero chance of that actually happening , as neither of them looks like even giving birth.
Oh I'm sorry to hear you won't have grandkids!
But I like the way you would handle it
I see, why dont they want kids?
@Asker Kids are physically and mentally exhausting to raise. If you don’t have that energy or patience, it’s best not to have any. I know I don’t have either and that’s why I’m not going to have kids. Besides, I’m not mentally stable to raise any kids. It could be the same for them. But, I’m sure they have their reasons.
@molonski2 I hope you’re not one of those parents who go out of their way and guilt trip your kids to have kids of their own.
@Sasha0426 i know its okay not to have kids Im just asking him why they dont want or have any
@Sasha0426 Hell NO !
I'm all about lifestyle , I apply ZERO pressure , Im just saying if it did happy I'd be happy , if it doesn't I'll still be really happy , both are incredible women , if they dont want to be mothers , I couldnt care less , I want them to live FULL lives , and they are both incredibly busy , too busy for motherhood.
@molonski2 Awesome 👍 Not too many parents are like you who are supportive.
@molonski2 Thankfully, no. I just heard so many stories about parents not being supportive. They’ll go as far as sabotaging their daughter (s) birth control.
Yes & like anything u support her on, I'd try and help her be prepared, and safe, and have a backup plan. Unfortunately being a housewife is far from the safest lifestyle a woman can choose, especially if she turns out to be straight. But I know the appeal myself, and I understand why she'd want to anyway.
Of course I would! As long as her and her partner had made an agreement and the partner makes plenty of money to handle the bills and living costs, I see no issue. If they've made an agreement and the partner is fine with being the provider, who am I to judge?
Of course I would support her. I would support whatever my children wanted to do as long as they were happy and not hurting anyone!
It’s not what I would choose for my life at the moment but everyone is different
To add to this though…I would probably advise her to think about making her own money first so she has savings backed up in case anything goes wrong. I would also of course want her to know how to live independently in case again anything happened and she needed to do that in the future. I do think it’s important not to rely 100% on someone else’s income/someone else in general
Well said!:)
Yes. I don’t have children but if I had a daughter I would support her choice. The whole point of women’s liberation is for women to make their own choices so if my prospective daughter, my nieces, friend’s daughters, the young women at my church or any other woman makes the decision to become a stay at home tradwife, I would support her.
She's not even lived her own life under her own power and she's giving it up for a hypothetical man?
Yeah, she's getting therapy, I'm getting therapy, we're all getting therapy and she's gonna get a job.
It's not normal or healthy.
Its normal and healthy. But not everyone wants to do it. Its not that commen in the western world tho and its seen as bad by feminism
It isn't bad, it's just really limited and it's weird to encourage that before your kid has a chance to even try living for herself.
It's disingenuous.
If she experiences independence, voting, working, and being able to own her own power - and STILL wants to be a housewife - then that's her won't. She can choose.
But she ain't trying nothing and giving up. That isn't how I'd raise a child, no matter their gender.
*won't, not won't.
I would tell my kid, fine but she will know to never depend on anyone and to make her money on the side.
People will change on you and nothing in life often goes as expected so she will know how to look out after herself as an adult.
Since your mom is a dentist did she recommended you to do something in the medical field?
@Alwayreckles93: No..
I'd support her but hope that she eventually chooses to be something more than just a housewife. Coming from being one myself it's not a easy life. Lots of stress and depression. Definitely don't recommend it especially for my own kids
i would support their decision of course. im not real sure why that is looked down upon these days- yet onlyfans is seen as being normal and celebrated?
Yes but I would be very severe about the importance of the amount of income that her partner should earn. I want her to live her life and be in financial stability. I would encourage her to study and obtain a degree and if she wants to be a house wife I will support her with all my heart
I would support her decision but I would also explain to her that she has other options. Oh and I would tell her that a lot of times homemakers get screwed in the divorce process, especially if she marries a really rich guy and the divorce goes badly. I’ve seen it happen to some of my mom’s friends.
If she understood that being a housewife was just as much a commitment as working, and felt that she was going to be very critical in finding a good partner beyond just material wealth... Yea? I myself want to be a house husband, and take care of a wife and be there to support them emotionally, help them love themselves and be confident, and raise children and do the same for them. I have no reason to be against it if my children wanted to do the same.
She can definitely want to be a housewife when she grows up.
But she’s still going to learn how to be an independent adult.
I only have 1 friend who wants to be a housewife and it’s not really working out for her 😅
u I would. She'd have to marry a man who would be able to support the family though.
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I think the world is more complicated than that. And as far as housewiving goes, she wouldn't be able to be a housewife unless her husband is rich. Being an housewife to an average joe just means a lifetime of suffering especially if there are kids that need to be raised.
I disagree. We're not rich, make less then $100k a year with a few kids and she doesn't work. No debt but we did sell a house and pay everything off. When starting out yes it was tough but we've made it through.
@Soldieronmission
there is a difference between "making it through" via suffering and giving up a good life. VERSUS living a good life and being able to provide your children a decent education and upbringing.
I grew up in a family of 4 on just 25,000 a year. We survived. But life was hell.
I’m not sure, I think personally I would try and encourage her to do SOMETHING with her life, not because it wouldn’t be nice but because I’ve seen how pear shaped this kind of thing can go… many things can go wrong and if her husband and her were to divorce, she wouldn’t have anywhere to go… I Would say she should at least get a degree in case this kinda thing does happen and then she has a plan!!
I would not only support but encourage that decision because strong independent career women tend to be miserable and die alone.
that's nice to here, my dad would problaby disown me, actually my whole family would
I’d tell her until then, she's going to get a job and earn her keep as well as save up in case her little co-dependent plot backfires
I would want her to aspire to be more. She can do anything in life, why just live off someone else?
Every married woman is a housewife but most manage to work as well.
Yes, I would support her decision.
It's better than her turning into a street drug user
Yup that sure is true
I would tell that in that case she needs to be very careful on her choice of partnet because if the marriage ends she will have a difficult time supporting herself.
Absolutely! As long as she doesn't come to me saying she wants to be on OF or PornHub I'm fine with pretty much anything.
I would advise her that being a "housewife" or what American's picturesque view of that is like is quite boring & unfullfilling at least until you have kids and even then by the time your youngest turns 14 maybe 16 you've very little to do. I'm a stay at home mother right now but the majority of housework I've done well b4 12 O'clock. Dinner is easy, looking after babies is mostly easy. As long as you are organised. I've a lot of free time to read, exercise, even to masturbate.
I would be soo proud
If her husband had a good paying job then of course I would support it.
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Yes but I'd explain to her that her husband would need to be high quality.
Thats fair
Yes I will always be support of my children.
I would like to see her look forward to something better for herself than a housewife.
I would support any future child in that decision. However I would also want them to have something to fall on in case it either never happens, takes too long, or they do find it and get dumped.
I would like for her to experience getting her own apartment and paying her bills, so if she does decide to be a housewife she knows what her husband is going threw to pay the bills and support the family.
No. This would be very disappointing. A housekeeper can do that work. I want her to be a professional of some kind.
I’d support her but until she becomes one she needs to work on a career.
She can be whatever she wants to be. Not up to me to tell her yes or no. Just support her and encourage her.
Yes, but I'd educate her on how that would impact her financial situation (no, that doesn't mean I'd paint it in a negative light). That was much more viable many years ago, it's less (but still) viable now.
i would support her and try to help her be safe.
Why would I stand in the way of her happiness
Force her to do something that I want her to do she would be miserable and grow to resent me and that is the last place I want to be
So hell yeah I would support her 100%
The only way she’s gonna get to be a housewife is if she’s a ho first.
ho whats that?
I would support as I want this too
I hope you find a good husband that can support you and your future kids!🤗
No, her husband will have to support her if she can't support herself.
Yes, but she would need to find a job until she has a husband to take care of her.
Absolutely. There is no more important work than raising your own kids.
Sure. Especially if they are able to afford that type of household.
Yeah of course, that's what I did.
I would support it if she have picked a good guy.
Support her but i will guide her on this decision.
Nice
Most definitely. Heck, I want to be one. 😅
No. It's her hubby to support her :D
Yeap it's her choice
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This is ideal
Ofc I would support them
i dont want kids
How come?
Can't stand them
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Why wouldn't I?
My dad wouldn't
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