Since daughters of single moms tend to be like their moms and have the highest crime rates, should men avoid marrying daughters of single moms?

[Kelley1]

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Since daughters of single moms tend to be like their moms and have the highest crime rates, should men avoid marrying daughters of single moms?

[worldscolide]

Probably a good idea. A massive red flag when dating for men is if the woman has no relationship or a bad relationship with their father.

That doesn't mean she can't come from a divorced home, but it does mean that if the parents didn't share 50/50 custody, she's best avoided. Unless the reason the father wasn't there was due to abuse.

The gender most likely to alienate the father, even if women didn't end up with the children 80% of the time, if it were 50% women and 50% men, women are the gender most likely to alienate the father, and the least likely gender to pay support, this is especially true, when they get a new boyfriend, and when they get married. They are also the gender most likely to strip away visitation when their ex starts dating again.

It's almost as if a lot of women can't be expected to behave as adults when divorce happens.. Combine that with the fact that mother's alone are responsible for 70% of child abuse, 73% of child death, and 72% of child neglect, and it paints a pretty damning picture of single mothers.

[worldscolide]

The requisite, this is not all women, comment so I don't get hate. But the stats don't lie.

[SolitarySolace]

Absolutely. Men should avoid these women unless she has a positive male role model or father figure in her life.

[Summeroflove]

I think men should be careful as well as women in general who they marry. I would be very careful about judging someone based off of something they cannot control most people would not want somebody doing this to them so it really isn’t fair. I mean you can pick and choose who you don’t date but at the same time be careful with that.

Everyone has something called free will so look at someone’s life choices. If they seem promiscuous, posting provocative photos online, their friends are like that, and they seem to be jumping from partner to partner. Just avoid that individual unless you’re that kind of person yourself then you kind of deserve it.

Who somebody is is who they choose to be I don’t care what excuses someone throws out there. If they’re making excuses then they know why they have a problem and refuse to fix it that makes it worse.

Even single mothers it’s a case by case basis it depends on WHY she’s a single mom. But even if her mom was a skank she can choose not to be one.

[purplepoppy]

Following the logic of the photograph. If the father dies we should step in and remove the child before it becomes a danger to society. Perhaps we should go down the old irish route of sticking them in workhouses to be used as slaves. Also if a wife is the victim of domestic abuse she should bear the beatings because her daughter will turn out a low achieving criminal if she doesn't.

Crap like this only ever comes from far right nutjobs who want to beat their wives with impunity and the government's blessing.

[AviatorTom]

@purplepoppy The old school rule is that if the husband dies, his unmarried brother is supposed to step in, marry her, and take care of her and the kids. Similar if the wife dies. Her unmarried sister steps in.

[WindAtMyBack]

You should marry someone for who they are. How they got there is not really relevant.

While I do believe that someone is far better off being raised in a traditional two parent household, I would not want to automatically eliminate someone because they were not. That is just not a good reason to avoid someone.

When I grew up, I did not know a single kid who was not raised in a traditional two-parent household. Single parents and divorce were unheard of. Some of those people turned out great, and some became total garbage.

You also have to be very careful assuming cause and effect. Is it simply because their parent was a single mom? Or is it because an irresponsible person with numerous issues is more likely to become a single parent? I'm sure it is both. But I think the second reason is a larger factor.

It all boils down to who the person is now.

[MisterWack]

No men should not avoid them, same if it were a man raised by a single parent. You just have to choose based on priorities, character, personality, and the individual like you do with every person you date to try to find the right one for one in this lifetime.

It isn’t about dodging women as a whole, it is about raising our children to be charismatic, strong, independent, empathetic, smart, and free thinking adult who can accomplish anything. These is just a bunch of hatred wanting to hold that child back for a situation they didn’t ask for….

[blueonblack22]

There is a “trust but verify” approach to dating people who could be a problem.

There are plenty of successful hard working people who come from single parent families. There are plenty of screwed up people who were raised in decent families. It really depends.

The best thing to do is proceed with caution. Don’t rush in. Take the time to get to know the person and avoid doing something stupid (having unprotected sex and having an unwanted pregnancy).

[Kelley1]

That is fine if you don't have options. However, if you have options and most people do, you should go with the odds and avoid likely problem women.

[blueonblack22]

Not everything is always black and white.

But as for “options” yes it’s true that young people (especially young attractive women) have tons of options. But many of them self sabotage themselves but judging and rejecting way too fast OR they jump in way too fast for a guy who “checks all their boxes”.

It’s not that simple. Never that simple.

[Kelley1]

It take time an effort to get to know someone. Moreover, there are more people than you have time. Therefore, it is best to not waste you time getting to know people that likely will prove to be unsatisfactory.

The problem with most young women is they fail to realize that men dates down for sex but they marry equals. Therefore, all too often, young women chase after the hottest guy that will f**k them and reject, guys within their league that would marry them. I am fully aware of that so, I am trying to maintain realistic standards.

[blueonblack22]

“ Therefore, all too often, young women chase after the hottest guy that will f**k them and reject, guys within their league that would marry them.”

Yep. You are definitely ahead of the curve on this.

The problem is modern women are constantly being told they are “special just for existing” nowadays. Told they should have higher standards for the men they want to date then they have for themselves. So that leads to that exact dynamic you provided above.

But I am seeing even more twisted and strange things happening recently times. In the last few months I’ve encountered two women (both late 20s) who went through all their mishaps chasing men who are out of their league in their early 20s.

Now they are saying they want to date another woman instead despite both of them never doing anything remotely like that (or even having an inclination to) when they were younger.

Both these women are obviously liberal (no surprise). But some women will go that far to avoid “settling” for their equal male counterpart. It’s insane.

[Kelley1]

Rebecca Lynn Pope quit matching because the women have unrealistic standards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZYXtHAiMoA&t=517s

[blueonblack22]

She is 100% spot on with this.

Women have always fantasized about “dating app”. You think of all the hordes of female groupies that started fawning over famous musicians like Elvis and the beetles.

But did you see hordes of men chasing Marilyn Monroe or modern day Taylor Swift around? Heck no. We know it’s impossible. Why waste our time? Even if we are extremely good looking it’s extremely unlikely she would a famous woman would pluck us out of obscurity. Men know women only value men mainly for AGENCY. What we are able to do and accomplish.

Anyway modern technology is part of the problem. Women are constantly bombarded by fantasy. But they can make a CHOICE to indulge those ridiculous standards or not.

[blueonblack22]

“Dating up”. Silly autocorrect

[blueonblack22]

*she would as a famous woman pluck us out of obscurity*.

[Kelley1]

@blueonblack22 That is because a pretty 8, such as a college pom-pom girl, might attract the attention of a 10 guy who will be happy to spend a few hours banging her. Therefore, women chase after famous men. However, an 8 guy has zero change of attracting the attention of a ten girl and by the time a guy is in his upper teens, he learns it is a waste of his time to try. Experience taught him he will be rejected.

[blueonblack22]

@Kelley1 again you are so ahead of the curve on this. Whatever man you settle down with is going to be a very lucky man.

Anyway the biggest discrepancy is between 7/8 guys and 7/8 girls. There are a lot of semi attractive men and women out there.

A 7 looking guy will be completely ignored by most 7 looking women UNLESS he’s got some additional skillset or something else to make him stand out (he’s really funny).

But most 7 looking women are looking to “date up” to 8+ guys. Not all but a lot. And it’s all because they are told “they are special” just for existing.

[blueonblack22]

At the end of the day you are entitled to your equivalent. Nothing more. The magic question to ask “would you date yourself”. Women (and men) need to seriously contemplate that question.

Ask it honestly by accessing their assets and flaws. That’s not easy to do because most people either over or under estimate themselves when it comes to all that. Need easy to self access.

Personally I’ve gotten better at self accessing myself as I’ve gotten older

[Vegasrunner]

Sons of single moms have a higher crime rate too. in my opinion no one should marry a single mom, they are for recreation use only.

[Kelley1]

At the very least, they need to be exceptional.

[Vegasrunner]

@Kelley1 Being a single mom instantly disqualifies them from being exceptional.

[Kelley1]

Single mom or not, most men would find this girl acceptable.

[Vegasrunner]

@Kelley1 For sex proably, however what women fail to understand is that threshold for sex and the threshold for a relationship is way different for men. As long as a woman is a biological women most guys will bang her, however taking on someone else's child isn't a burden HV men are likely to accept. The type of men who will are typically not the type of men woman are attracted to anyways.

[Kelley1]

High value men have options. Most men don't have good options. Therefore, it is a trade off--a pretty single mom or an unattractive single girls. Most men will choose the aforementioned pretty single mom over this single girl.

[Kelley1]

@JamesﾠTheﾠFοοԁie Fat is not curvy. Curvy is an hour-glass figure.

Nevertheless, some plus size women have hour-glass figures.

I can understand why men might consider her beautiful

[Vegasrunner]

@Kelley1 You make some good points, which is why it's important for men to increase their status which opens up options. The part that you fail to understand, like most women do, is that sex is more important to women than men. Most men will bang almost anything and be happy. It's women that need all these boxes checked. Personally, I would bang both of the women you showed, however I wouldn't commit to either and that's the part women struggle to understand. We as men don't have nearly as few options as you want to believe. Some men do, but that's only because they don't know their worth, but most men understand that we have 20, 30, 40 plus years to bang chicks, it's you who had the short shelf life to get the guy you want.

[Kelley1]

@JamesﾠTheﾠFοοԁie I never hear of tren dick so I Goggled: Tren Dick refers to the phenomenon of temporary erectile dysfunction (ED) that can occur after taking the drug Trenbolone steroid. It is characterized by a loss of libido and erectile dysfunction.

I fail to see how that, in any way, is relevant to original post.

[Kelley1]

Men date down for sex but they marry equals. Since women can date up, they falsely believe they can marry. Therefore, they tend to reject guys in their league that would marry. So they keep chasing Chad while their sexual market value is dropping.

[Vegasrunner]

@Kelley1 If you're dating down it's difficult to marry an equal. However as said b4 you make some good points. This is why about 20% of the guys bang all the women.

[The_Confusion]

@Kelley1 foodie is correct. "Tren dick" is better defined by urban dictionaries, not whatever else showed up for you.

The dysfunctional steroid dick is better known as "deca dick".
Although nandrolone ("deca") and trenbolone are really similar in chemical structure, both being basically the only 19-nors that are used for fitness, tren is not a "wet" compound, it is very drying and even literally on the joints, it dries them, while deca is even prescribed medically to lubricate joints. So deca creates an estrogen-like effect, although tren can also spike prolactin it doesn't create the lubricating and bloating effect.

Tren jokes usually accompany these memes:

[joshjosh1156]

I wouldn’t say so no. Having a daughter and a failed relationship doesn’t disqualify anyone from having another chance at being happy with someone. If said mother did not treat her daughter well than that’s a different story

[Kelley1]

They may deserve the chance but that doesn't imply that men should take the risk.
Single Moms Are The Only Thing Worse Than Sluts: www.forums.red/.../single_moms_are_the_only_thing_worse_than_sluts

[Oncewildtwiceburned]

Of course you would say no 🤣

[Ariesman81]

Sluts end up married with a traditional man taking care of them

[Oncewildtwiceburned]

@Ariesman81 yep many do

[Kaneki05]

I mean other men can, but in most cases I doubt these factors would bother me regardless so I won't.

[Marathonmama]

🤔 this is a great question I wouldn’t say avoid but be very careful and set firm boundaries with her. Let her know what’s expected

[MasterKS]

@Marathonmama you got some point!

[Decoded93]

I think it all depends on the woman, there is no absolutes with statistics, only with truth

[Surely]

Unless the single mother is a life long welfare recipient. She is possibly a harder worker than a married mother. Working to provide for herself and her child/children.

[slatyb]

I don't date "daughters of single moms". I date one woman at a time.

[Juxtapose]

So are you going to avoid dating black people because they statistically commit more murders?

[Kelley1]

I am far more attracted to whites and Asians. The only blacks I would date are so far out of my league that they can date supermodels. Therefore, they wouldn't date me.

[Juxtapose]

Okay let's say white people and Asians statistically committed more murders hypothetically.
. Would you change your mind then?

[Kelley1]

That wouldn't change who I am attracted to. Moreover, certainly whites and probably do commit more murders that blacks The difference is whites murder on a massive scale in wars while blacks commit more individual murders.

[msc545]

I eould like to see some supporting data for these very broad statements.

[Kelley1]

www.forums.red/.../single_moms_are_the_only_thing_worse_than_sluts

[Jennz6]

Are you like your mom?

[Kelley1]

Yes, I am very much like my mother. She is a stay-at-home mother and that is what I choose to be.

[Jennz6]

I hope you find a great guy 🥰

[Kelley1]

I'm trying but if I am not engage by Christmas, I will lower my expectations and standards a bit--not a lot, just a bit.

[Jennz6]

@Kelley1🥰
Why do you want to rush into marriage? Have some fun, you’re still young 💃

[Vegasrunner]

@jennz6 That's destructive advice that keeps women perpetually single.

[Kelley1]

I want to get married while my sexual market value is near its peak. If I wait my sexual market value drops leaving me with fewer options. Moreover, for almost all of the 3 million years of human history, most women mated or married by my age.

[Jennz6]

@Kelley1 💕
I wish I could talk with you in private

[Ariesman81]

Well said @Kelley1... I think you have a bright future ahead.

[Ariesman81]

Do not corrupt her... she's a good one

[Jennz6]

@Ariesman81 who me?

[Ariesman81]

Yeah you... I've seen some of your other comments... stay away from her!

[Jennz6]

@Ariesman81 Are you her boyfriend?

[Ariesman81]

Nah. You want to feel innocent again... you come fuck me.

[Dibben61]

I am single father looking for someone what relationship

[LiamJHayden]

lol Some of the stuff on this site is pure comedy.

[Cheerfull009]

It doesn't apply to every daughter of single mom,4 fingers are not equal

[jimmy2]

No that not real we all have the chance to make it together

[exitseven]

It might be a good idea.

[XXTruthfulOgrexx]

like a plague

[Dongie]

Eeh, they need love too. Maybe more than others.

[MrGSpotHer]

Do people still marry of their kids these days?

[MasterKS]

First dont marry single moms! LOL!

[Slim57]

Sure. I'm glad I did.