Is This Movie Ad Promoting Violence Against Women?

[Anonymous]

Actress Rose McGowan took to Facebook to complain about the above poster recently, saying:

There is a major problem when the men and women at 20th Century Fox think casual violence against women is the way to market a film. There is no context in the ad, just a woman getting strangled. The fact that no one flagged this is offensive and frankly, stupid. The geniuses behind this, and I use that term lightly, need to to take a long hard look at the mirror and see how they are contributing to society. Imagine if it were a black man being strangled by a white man, or a gay male being strangled by a hetero? The outcry would be enormous. So let’s right this wrong. 20th Century Fox, since you can’t manage to put any women directors on your slate for the next two years, how about you at least replace your ad...I’ll close with a text my friend sent, a conversation with his daughter. It follows: ‘My daughter and I were just having a deep discussion on the brutality of that hideous X-Men poster yesterday. Her words: ‘Dad, why is that monster man committing violence against a woman?’ This from a 9-year-old. If she can see it, why can’t Fox?”

And what did Fox do? Well, Fox apologized for the billboard saying:

“In our enthusiasm to show the villainy of the character Apocalypse we didn’t immediately recognize the upsetting connotation of this image in print form. Once we realized how insensitive it was, we quickly took steps to remove those materials. We apologize for our actions and would never condone violence against women.”

Sigh. Are we really at a point in life where certain people are deciding that we are not allowed to have fiction anymore because it might seem too much like something somewhere in life? Look, no decent person with a mother, wife, or young daughter is going to stand up and shout, hey we want to see some of that real violence against women...yes, more of that please. No, people aren't going to want to be a part of that except we aren't talking about that. These are fictional beings in a fictional universe that fight fictional battles. We've complained forever that the action industry was male centered and it basically has been for a lot of "societal" reasons," but now that more women are on the screen as action/fantasy/syfy characters, I'm not sure what we are expected to expect them to do exactly in these films: "hey, just yell at the boys ladies, and tell them to stop fighting while you knit on the sidelines!"

Hello, the whole point of having badass female characters in a villainous, and I might add, fictional world, is that they are ALSO expected to fight and save the world of their own accord without relying on some dude to always come running and save them and as such, it often involves them having to fight and defend themselves...just like the men in these films. I might also add there are several scenes in these types of movies where female characters are equally beating up on the men, but again YES, a million times, YES, violence against women or men is bad, but let's focus that to real violence in the real world. We should all put our focus on that as opposed to what is a fictional work involving non-human characters.

I mean honestly, if we continue on this train of thought, let's also prohibit movie posters with men being punched or choked by other men. Let's just prohibit fiction in fictional movies altogether. Trust me when I say, when a man, or woman for that matter, gets to the point where s/he's actually physically choking his/her child or significant other, it wasn't because they saw an X-men movie. Remember how the Matrix "caused" high schoolers to shoot their class mates. Do you know how many high schoolers saw the Matrix and continue to see the Matrix and never commit murder or crime. Anyway, Fox is taking steps to take it down, so it is what it is, but honestly, if we're going to rally hard behind something and get people involved, let's do it for REAL people who are in real danger and need help, not blowing up over two actors made to look like they are hurting one another in a fictional universe.

For some real ways to help end violence against women read, participate, and donate:

https://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs239/en/

https://www.care.org/work/womens-empowerment/violence-against-women

https://womenthrive.org/issues/violence-against-women?gclid=CMnB95iwj80CFQ4zaQodXAkLeQ

https://www.unwomen.org/en/trust-funds/un-trust-fund-to-end-violence-against-women/donate

[Anonymous]

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It's 2016, that's just the way it is these days. If he'd been hitting a plant they'd say it's subliminally promoting violence against vegans.

[RationalMale]

It is promoting violence against women the same way the movie is promoting mass murder/destroying the world.

[noneoftheabove]

oh dear...

[Phoenix98]

O for fucks sake no the billboard it isn't promoting violence against women and no it is not oppressing women, take your first world feminists bullshit somewhere else.

This is honestly question/statement about this billboard is just about as stupid as this ridiculous incident with this billboard where feminists were being offended.

https://youtu.be/uOetVDqjwVM?list=PLACHuve7G7Up0dnT9AEnVU1GcbuB-EPXM

Honestly it's just a movie it's hero's vs villains, and you know what? they are going to beat the shit out of each other, do you know what I do when I fight a woman in a sparring or tournament match? I punch, kick, grapple, hold and beat them to the ground and win, why? because it's a fight. The movie is the same thing, people fighting to win, the strongest survive and the weakest lose, they are not going to make women hero's or women villains win simply because they are women it's stupid and it's ridiculous and yes the women fighting in the movie are going to get their asses handed to them, why? because they are fighting far more and powerful and experienced fighters. But movies do not equal reality and sound minded people are not going to watch this or look at the billboard and then all of a sudden feel the urge to beat up or hurt women, that's not how the world works.

And yes I did read the second part of your take and yes we should help women in 3rd world nations or in Europe who are getting raped, assaulted and kidnapped but these things act of violence and terror have nothing to do with movies, actresses or billboards these issues have to do with criminals, money, terrorists and traditions and ideals going back thousands of years.

And if you don't want people to misread the context of what your trying to say then take out all the nonsense about the movies, billboards and actresses and feminism and just be clear and to the point you want to help people in third world countries specifically women who are being hurt and tormented so just say that, there is no need for all this BS about billboards and movies portraying ideas and being offensive.

[myTake Owner]

Actually if you write a take, one would hope people would actually read it and understand it. My point is very clear that I did not feel as if this was an ad promoting violence against women and in fact, if people do actually want to do something about violence against women or men for that matter, here are ways to do it RATHER THEN BULLSH*T complaining about a piece of fiction. This was something posted up all over the web today and I thought someone, especially a woman, should respond to the stupidity of it all whilst actually also talking about what we should be worried about if anything. Do I think they are one in the same... obviously if you read the take which you said you did, you know I do not... but that's my point. If you are going to get a giant stick up your butt over a movie poster that means nothing... why don't you stop pissing over nothing and do something that actually helps people in the real world. Is that perfectly clear and agenda free enough for you?

[Phoenix98]

Obviously you point isn't clear or half the people on here wouldn't have misunderstood it and got it wrong. Myself included and wit that being said I recant what I said about you, now that I read your comment to my opinion. But because of the way you have it written it actually paints quite the opposite picture of the one you are trying say so please for the sake of everyone, try to write your point more clearly next time.

And yes it is clear now that you have actually explain it in way that is understandable, also you will have to excuse my attitude I've been through like 3 to 4 feminists nonsense posters about meaningless things that have nothing to do with the movement or what it "used" to stand for.

[myTake Owner]

Apology accepted. It's funny how it seems any time a woman has an opinion on this website about gender issues, her own or the other, she must automatically be some crazy feminist. It's the new "racist."

[Phoenix98]

It's because the internet especially social media is a place were feminists go because they are powerful in groups and they are able to overwhelm people with pure shit because their ideals and ideology can't stand up to logical and rational thinking or argument. I've seen it about a 100 times no joke on this site among many others, the internet is a place were the crazy, radical and idiotic flourish.

[loveisbeautiful]

You know, I find it ironic when people are outraged by things they did once themselves. So, here's a little look into Roses career

Devil in the Flesh, she was evil and tried to kill someone
en.wikipedia.org/.../Devil_in_the_Flesh_(1998_film)
Jawbreaker, she was the leader of a high school clique and they killed someone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jawbreaker_(film)
Charmed, she was in that show from seasons 4-8 and her and her sisters fought demons every week and most of them were men and being evil demons they weren't polite when they tried to kill the Charmed ones
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charmed
Law & Order: SVU, she guest starred on that show and I believe in that episode she was playing a woman who was sleeping with her own brother
en.wikipedia.org/.../Law_%26_Order:_Special_Victims_Unit
The Pastors Wife, this Lifetime movie is based on a true story of women who was married to a pastor and then shot him dead and went on the run with her kids.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pastor%27s_Wife_(film)

I'm sure you are wondering if I have a point, well my point is that as long as she's getting paid violence of any sort doesn't bother her but if she's not getting paid it's apparently a problem.

I don't think there's one person in the world that thinks abuse of any kind, toward anyone is okay. I don't think there's anyone that would advocate it as a good thing, because it's not. But, this is a movie poster that's advertising for a movie. It's not meant as how to guide for life, it's entertainment. I mean, people watch boxing and no one bats an eye when one guy punches the other guy and he's bleeding all over the place, people just sit in a chair and cheer their favorite fighter on. And, that's actual hand to hand combat, this is just a movie with actors. There's a difference and the fact that not many people no the difference between reality and fiction is sad to me.

[myTake Owner]

Ugh! Yessss, let's talk about Charmed and Planet Terror. You can't go on a rant about fictional violence when half your notable career is filled with tv and film roles in which she is doing the same. Call it magical on charmed and what not, but she was fighting and killing men who were trying to hurt her, so what's the difference now? Because it wasn't on a poster it's more okay... and as you said, she made the buck, so doubly okay. It's hypocrisy.

[loveisbeautiful]

Yes, it is hypocrisy. Let's not forget she was in the movie scream and got killed in the movie, the killer was a man. So, logically speaking if we go with her logic that means she 's advocating violence towards women? It honestly doesn't make sense Also, who really looks at billboards anyway? I live in a small town, so we don't have any. So, the only way I could see them is if I was on a very busy high way or in the city and most people on the high way or in the city are busy with work and stuff. So, in the grander scheme, does it really matter what's on the billboard?

[myTake Owner]

YES! (adds... to her it does).

[Murie]

The discussion started because the ad is *normalizing* violence against women, not *promoting*. There is a difference. We do not *promote* gun violence, but current tv and movie and video game culture does normalize it. The argument was if you are in a culture that is saturated with images of women as objects to be dominated or abused, that can affect the way that culture treats women and how people react to violence against women when it occurs.

Think of it this way: if our culture was extremely peaceful, physical violence in media and real life was very rare, this image would be jarring, shocking, outstanding in our minds. There would be a visceral reaction of "omg this is NOT right" and it would make the image that more effective if the point was to say "this is how dangerous Apocalypse is to everything you know!" However, you see this image and think nothing of it. Why? We see images of casual violence *all the time*. Now, in this case you have Mystique - she is not a powerful mutant. She is dangerous and clever, but she isn't a physical powerhouse that can go toe to toe with the toughies. Therefor there is no reason for this image to shock us. We aren't going "Wow, he is strangling the Hulk!!! This guy is a badass!" It is gratuitous and just shows another female being manhandled by some big violent dude. Since we have an epidemic on this *planet* of physical violence, rape, partner abuse against women, showing images like this when they aren't germane to the story just further normalize and deaden us to these images. Next time you hear your neighbors arguing or see a couple struggling outside a nightclub, you might be more likely to shrug it off or think she did something to deserve it because you are so used to these images, they don't shock you anymore. Megan Fox made her comment to point out that when you have images like this around a lot, you see higher instances of violence against women. It is statistically proven, everywhere. So having a movie billboard with this image and it isn't telling an important part of the story is adding to the problem and it didn't need to.

So promoting? No. No one said that. Fox studios and Marvel aren't trying to encourage violence against women. But they are so deadened to those images that they slapped this up there and think it's normal and ok. And next time some guy gets really drunk and angry, he might remember how cathartic this image seemed and decide to grab his girl this way and throttle her and voila.

[myTake Owner]

How little you think of hummanity. Not two months ago, I was in a grocery store parking lot and a man literally jumped out with a crow bar from his trunk in the car next to me and went round and started yelling at his girlfriend or wife. Did I "shrug it off," and say, oh she deserved it. No... because I'm a woman, and this clearly wasn't another woman who deserved it, so I ran in the store and got the manager and called the police. Do I watch violent movies and films and video games, sure do. It's really patronizing when people think that just because you for example watch 50 shades of grey, you're going to be swinging from the rafters next week, or you watch the Matrix, it's going to make you gun someone down. People who are abusers did not get that way from watching television or movies or seeing dozens of images. These are people often with years of first hand neglect, and experiences with real violence that translates into their adult lives when they do the same.

[myTake Owner]

There will always and forever, even in the best of societies be some level of crime and the people who do them. I mean how do you even explain a so called peaceful society that still has even the slightest bit of crime or for that matter a society rife with violent images where the majority do not commit any sort of violent crimes or abuse. There is a point in life where we've got to stop blaming the external for our own actions. Tv does not make you do it, you do it. An image on a billboard might be jarring to you, yes, but it doesn't make you pick up a gun or choke someone.

[Murie]

How little you think of *me* that you assume I think little of society. I do not. But I have took a lot of anthro/sociology and psychology courses in college and have kept up with my reading since graduating and the fact is studies have shown, repeatedly, that saturation of images of a certain type cause desensitization to the seriousness of some criminal or anti social behaviors. Obviously there are people that will not just blindly ignore someone in trouble, and we still have many stories that get told that encourage bravery, selflessness and a willingness to help others. I applaud those. But we need every single one to counteract seeing a lot of images that dehumanize people. Sometime take a look at "Hollywood's Headless Women". Or something similar in title. It's an interesting look at the trend in movie posters and billboards over decades showing faceless or headless women in sexualized positions to advertise movies. And then we have a lot of sexual assault and rape in our culture

[Murie]

If you are repeatedly exposed to visual stimuli, audio stimuli (words, pejoratives for example) or story archetypes that are negative over and over, it WILL affect if not your behavior, how abnormal you might view those behaviors or words in others. That is human nature. You can want to be a snowflake completely impervious to the outside world, a fortress unto yourself but you are a social animal. It's called behavioral conditioning and you can find so many studies you will lose count showing that cultures where media depict images (even when shown as acts from "bad" guys) of sexual violence against women, that real life violence against women also increases. It's not happening because no one tells those boys to rape girls. They're being raised in the same culture, but the stuff they see all the time has a subliminal effect that alters their view of women. Just do some research on behavioral condition, media materials and rape. 1000 char doesn't let me go into nearly the detail I would

[Anonymous]

Watch
Yuri Bezmenov - KGB Defector on "Useful Idiots" and the True Face of Communism
or
Yuri Bezmenov: Deception Was My Job (Complete)

Of course no, but it's a communist strategy of hate, identity politics, division, to the pay to fake actors, create fake things, videos, promtoe more chaos, division, and they are making everything to vote their communist presidents who pretend to be the "good boys" but are the most violent people, are the peopel who promote hate, race baiting, manipulation, division, try to feed some group of bad people, I'm talking about the liberal communist of America, and I'm not in the side of republicans because they always looks at least in the last 40 years a controlled opposition of the liberal communist establishment (In other countries the word liberal means good things but in America it's related to far leftists, communists, and dumb people, but the same communist with their strategy of promote hate in society, feed the hate groups like Black lives matter based in artificial leftist media manipulation to defend criminals, americans are so dumb to fall for communist, socialism and marxism.

I'm not American, but your society are sick because of sick liberals who are just communist in the power, and the republicans looks like controlled opposition and all the hate, division, increase racism, are communist politics of liberals for years and they have the lobby of 95% of American media and American news, in other countries liberal where to be a good thing but in America represent leftist poison. Your whole country is damaged, your schools are poisoned by communist and hate studies of brainwashing and lies, bias. Your people are so brain damaged, have the peopel who are submissive and naive, have the other people who become brain damaged and become what the liberal communist manipulation wanted to portray them. Look at the lobby of communist for Hillary Clinton and Liberal party (Liberal where to be considered a good thing, but in the case of America liberal = leftists, communist, marxist and socialism) They even tried to brainwash the people with staged videos, controll and lobby over the media and news, tried to use their own movies with paid actors, race baiting, everything for the communist try to remove the guns of the people and make them weaker against the state, they exploit every kind of evil strategy, race baiting, lies, manipulation, chosen news, bias, narrative, propaganda, and take advantage of own controlled oppositio

[Opinion Owner]

I don't have hope, i would prefer america removed of the earth and all the european countries damaged by American communist influence don't support them

The worse thing is that the communist of America use their globalist influence to destroy western Europe too in the countries who have communists, marxist and socialism similar to the americans in the power. America have a evil horrible group in the power, the worse thing is that people don't get that Liberals are the most racist, race baiting, hate promotion group of America and republicans being controlled oppostion od this group, imagine this group of liberals using the schools, the media, the news to manipulate everything, is horrible, i think the 3 presidents of America are horrible but Trump is the less worse choice for Americans because even the controlled opposition of republicans were against him, if the state is against someone, at least you can have hope of something less worse than the horrible group in the power of Americ

[hellionthesage]

Well, one thats utter bullshit. If it was a male character it would be just fine so why is it okay to promote violence against men. Two since its a man doing the violence isn't that propagating the sterotype that males are abusive? Three technicly violence against women is the least likely thing to occur since 80% of all violent crime victims are male plus men are actually more likely to be victims of domestic violence then women: www.saveservices.org/.../
On top of which we have multiple laws that are specificly aimed to protect women (none for men) so her statements are wrong on so many levels that its just idioticly stupid, more so that no one called her out on being so stupid. Fox should not have apologized because if this is a fair and equal society then in a fiction action movie where their are "strong and independent" female protaganist then they should also be able to be subjected to the same level of violence as the male characters are subjected to not just as artistic freedom but in the name of equality and fairness. Otherwise we just have the (far more common) occurence of men being the victims of violence, something society seems pretty okay with. Funny that she ignored all of that. Just another example of society continueing to indulge stupid. Thank you for giving me on more thing to be pissed off about. GOD ITS SO STUPID!

[katherine_91]

Let's also point out that if that ad had of been apocalypse strangling a man, no one would have thought twice about it. No one would have said "This is promoting violence towards men." Why when it's a woman? It's a comic book character in a fight. I'm all for being against abuse of any kind but jesus this is a movie... with fighting scenes that involve both men and women. We should be happy that there are strong female roles in super hero movies.

[SweetHomicidalQueen]

It's promoting their own damn movie.

Mystique is a "good guy" while he is a "villian", so of course it'll show them in duel together. I find this to be dumb as shit. It'd be okay if it was a dude, but it isn't okay because she's female?

This is a part of double standards.

"We'd never promote violence against women..."

But it's okay to promote violence against men?

I don't find it OK to "promote" violence to anyone, regardless of gender, but it's a fucking movie. A movie where a good guy happens to be a female. A movie where the villian happens to be a male.

I'm strongly against men hitting women, women hitting men or people hitting people in general. I'd still watch this movie, because this advertisement is promoting *their own damn movie*

[Blonde401]

The thing is that billboard is for anyone to see. You're minding your own business and then bam, you see that. It's completely different to going to watch a movie with violence in it of your own volition. I loved the movie but I don't think you should force images like that upon people who don't want to see it. Nobody is saying you can have that violence in the movie, just don't shove it in the faces of people who may have experienced things like domestic violence. I don't think they should put violence on movie posters, it's different when you choose to watch or read something.

[Blonde401]

*cant have

[myTake Owner]

I know online at least several people have made the point that these posters were in subways as well where their children were able to see it, and as a non parent, I could see perhaps my little nieces and nephews being a little wary of it but one explains such things like one would a dog suddenly jumping out and barking at them and making them cry. I mean the comments about this being akin to real life abuse is where I have to stop and say... the reality is this is pure fiction and they are definitely not the same thing, and as I point out, if people want to complain about abuse, do something about REAL abuse (links below). As to your second point, a lot of things may trigger others, but then you get into issues of puritanical censorship. It's a slippery slope b/c who decides who can or should be able to handle what at what time? Anyway tis all a moot point b/c the billboards and posters are coming down.

[Blonde401]

And so they should. I actually do something about abuse, I help run an advise blog that works with those suffering with mental health issues and we get lots of messages from abuse victims. I also speak as somone who's been assaulted before, there are some things that are appropriate for billboards and there are things that aren't. I agree that things that frighten children shouldn't be used as advertisements either. I know everyone want's to say everyone is super sensitive but it's fine if someone chooses to go and see these movies, I personally really like violent movies, I just see a difference between choosing to see something and having something forced upon me.

[myTake Owner]

I am sorry that has happened to you, but even you recognize that what happened to you did not happen simply b/c someone saw a movie poster. Violent movies or posters for that matter do not cause men or women to become violent nor do the root in children the seeds later on in life to become violent. They tried to say this was so with the Matrix movies. There are movie posters everywhere with guns and people shooting which could presumably trigger someone who's been a victim of gun violence or who wants to commit suicide, but when does that type of deciding and censorship become a North Korea where an entire government is deciding for you what is and isn't appropriate. If there was concrete evidence that movie violence or poster violence causes someone to do violent things, then you or the world would have a case, but it doesn't. The problems associated w/ violent individuals happen for many reasons but you know this already.

[Blonde401]

Oh no, I don't think seeing a movie poster will make someone commit a crime, I am more of the thinking of why should people have to be distressed by these images. I definitely don't think violent movies make violent people, people are already that way.

[Lynx122]

No context? He's the fucking villain in a superhero movie. It says X-Men there is that not context. Oh more context they're both blue. by the way if the female characters only fought each other then feminists would cry how women are not beeing shown as beeing capable enough to take on men etc. But when the male villain is fighting the female hero then it's violence against women. This is the problem with SJW's and movies where the fuck is the creativity gonna be if everything has to adhere to your fucking rules? You can see a feminist movie here if you like it's a fucking masterpiece I bet it's going to beat X-Men apocalypse at the box office just wait.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9bLFQqUiCM

[myTake Owner]

I hope you didn't just read the title of my take, but the context...

[Lynx122]

Too tired sry it's 1am. I didn't just read the title but I didn't read the whole thing. But I think you got where I stand from my answer. My general opinion when it comes to SJWs and entertainment is hat they can only bitch and complain about everything but not create anything positive. In a long forgotten time people who didn't like something just wouldn't buy the product. They'd say it's not for me and let other people who liked it enjoy it but today everybody has to comment on everything even if they don't cre about the medium or the genre or the specific movie, they just wanna comment because it makes them feel powerful or something. You know I'm so offended that Jennifer Lawrence is probably making more money than the guy playing the villain and she's not even good as Mystique in my opinion. It's so unfair OUIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNN T_T. I'm sorry I didn't read your whole mytake before commenting.

[Lynx122]

Something I would like to see though is more Asian actors and actresses. I think there's a ton of talented actors and actresses in Asia sadly a lot of them don't speak English. I've already watched a bunch of Kung Fu movies and Korean dramas with subtitles (some really good acting there) but more Asians in Hollywood would be cool. I think with Asia beeing a big market now we will see at least more chinese people in Hllywood movies but I don't know about Korea and Japan.

[Lynx122]

I'm gonna sleep nigh :P

[AleDeEurope]

If it was the other way around, no one would complain. It's a f*cking movie, it goes with the context of the movie. If you can't read what the picture means, then it's your fault you're fucking stupid. Goddammit, I'm tired of these people making everything about sex, like seriously, the world doesn't revolve around you, not everything is done to hate women... ffs -_-
The worst part, like you said, is that the media falls for this bullshit and apologizes. The worst thing you can do is apologize cause they'll keep on complaining about everything.
Next time, with an ad of a man holding a girl's hand, they'll say he's viciously grabbing her hand and dragging her to his cabin without her consent... -_-

[confusedapplepie]

wtf? the movie has absolutely nothing to do with violence against women. i mean look at what ra did to xavier or the others; he was violent towards anybody who was not on his side so its not gender specific so not sexist or whatever.
they probably just used a powerful picture and they sure could have used better ones but seeing mutants that could be manipulating and throwing bridges at each other in a simple fight IS interesting.
so yeah im totally against this ultrafeminist thing though i think we still need feminists.
and all the people saying she's not a female because she's a mutant: may i remind you that after all x-men are evolved human beings and human beings are (biologically) considered female if they have two x chromosomes/ no y chromosome. and as far as i can tell the mutation didn't change anything about that. just like a woman having a down syndrome isn't less female just because of (guess what) a mutation.

[PonyCar]

<>>>>>>>>

"Only the Strong will survive"

Ironically, only one of those 2 mutants pictured actually survives.

In all seriousness though:
- These are basically the 2 main characters in the movie (if a movie like that can even have "main" characters)
- Most of the scenes involving Apocalypse involve him disintegrating people at a distance, so there's not a lot of shots that actually have him in hand-to-hand/close-quarters combat with anyone else.

Point being, there's valid reasons for using this scene to promote the movie.

That actress is clearly one of those people that gives feminism a bad name. Sure, it COULD be interpreted that way (has she even seen the movie?), but this is obviously a case of grasping at straws. If every promo poster showed a male character beating up a female character, then yes, she'd definitely have a point, but ONE poster? Nah.

[vishna]

Hmmm I think it would have been badass if she was giving him angry eyes while she strangled him, that would make it look like more of a face off.

I don't think the words on the poster reflect the picture. The words seem like a face off. The picture is someone, who looks afraid, being strangled by a really strong person in heavy armor.

I don't think the ad is supporting violence against women. I just don't think it's a great poster.

I like the villain, he looks cool af. If they could have showed like a face off with him and Mystique, then the words would make more sense and to me, the suspense would be greater (even though all these prequel movies are just a LITTLE predictable on which big character will live and which will not)

[Righttobeararms83]

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An argument could be made that with thrse pics she is actually promoting dating a rock star to use his fame and that its ok for a woman to be objectified if she's advancing her career. How quickly celebs forget where they cam from and how much of their soul they sold off for their fame.

[myTake Owner]

she'd probably just say, she was promoting her freedom of sexuality, not objectifying herself.

[Righttobeararms83]

she'd probably believe that to. She's not the first Hollywood celeb to sleep her way to the top

[myTake Owner]

Um, I don't think that's accurate because 50% or more commenting have never even heard of her, plus you kind of have to sleep with powerful people to actual get to the top, so yeah, no, I just think when her acting jobs dried up, she took it upon herself to blame a lot of people for her lack of jobs. Granted some of it is true... I mean, its factual there are lack of female directors being hired and things like that, but acting itself has always been a tough profession to succeed in. For every job she has had, how many auditioned and didn't even get a call back? How many 'actors' have never had a paid gig male or female. And on top of that, its a business where you age out quickly, and one minute you're in and the next, no one even knows your name which is where I think she's desperately trying to avoid.

[Righttobeararms83]

acting is funny because a man really only makes it big after 30-35 where at that age a woman's career is winding down. I think with most careers such as directing you gotta look at how many females out there have the necessary qualifications and experience.

[myTake Owner]

See, and that's where you'll fall into trouble. It's like if I apply for all the jobs in my field and everyone keeps saying we need someone with more experience, how would you ever hope to get that. And if you are indeed a sexist HR firm, it would be all too easy to say we're not going to hire women, not because they are women, but b/c they have no or not enough experience... when really they mean, b/c they are women. It's really easy to cover those tracks up nicely and tie a bow on them without anything necessarily illegal, as in discrimination, taking place. We cannot pretend that Hollywood is any time of bastion for fairness and equality... which unfortunately makes this a sad case, the story I mean, because here we have a woman in a role where she's tearing down barriers, and on the outside, all of this.

[Righttobeararms83]

thats probably true though but when I used to work construction or as a lumberjack, or as a miner or at an oil rig there was few if no women there, the money was amazing but few women were willing to apply which is a shame.

[myTake Owner]

I think with any position where you are a first or the only when another gender is dominant in the field, whether male or female, it's going to be hard. Point blank, people aren't going to want you there. I became a manager years ago of some 80 employees and it was tough. A lot of the guys refused to give me any respect at first, whereas, the male manager would walk in, and everyone, male and female alike, never questioned him or back talked or ignored his orders completely even though we'd started around the same time. It was rough for a few months, but I did it for the same reason you mention about your own jobs... good money. Of course after I left, before the dust even settled, it was back to a male manager only situation. I guess I served my purpose as the token woman enough to get by any claims against the company that they have uneven hiring practices.

[UncagedAgent]

So since the ads starring her are being taken down, she will receive less in Ad Rev than if they stay up. Assuming her and Jackman have the same number of ads, but his don't get taken down, she will make less than him.

I don't want to live in a world where an actress isn't payed the same as an actor for the same work (same number of initial ads). If Fox actually listens to this dipshit, than they will, all hypothetical here, willingly pay a woman less than a man for equal work, that's a far larger injustice than posing.

Rose McGown should "take a long hard look at the mirror and see how [she is] contributing to society," you know, promoting unequal pay and all.

[UncagedAgent]

Didn't think about this till I already posted, but why does ROSE MCGOWN get to set the precedence? she's not in the movie or a Fox employee? Shouldn't Jennifer Lawrence get to decide, or at least get a say, if she thinks her ad promotes violence?

If people who aren't a part of a movie's production get a say in how its publicly handled, I want a written apology from Colombia for doing such a shitty trailer and even Considering a reboot for Ghostbusters. Lol, I want equality.

[DrTruth]

Aren't women strong, independent, and can do whatever a man can do in high heels? For every 1 ad you show where women are hurt, I can show you 10 more such as this one:

https://i.imgur.com/aHIumk2.jpg

Do men complain? Nope. When men get hit in the balls it's funny. However, when the genders are switched, it's offensive. Gotta love the double standards in PC Murica.

[myTake Owner]

I just don't get the outcry over the x-men movie poster. As I mentioned to someone else, we have female soldiers, police, firefighters, etc. who actually fight against real bad guys who can and do hurt people, women included... are we to tell them to just sit back and let the boys handle it because they might get hurt. Wouldn't that be setting us back? And we're not even talking real life... now we have to have female action characters who do what exactly in films, bat their eyelashes... these are bad guys and bad women who do bad things in a fictional universe, but both sides are fighting that. I view that as a positive message, and as in real life, yeah, you kind of have to get your hands dirty if you're going to do that male or female.

[Poppykate]

It's a movie! But I can see how it might upset some women who have experienced domestic violence. So maybe another clip from the movie would have been more appropriate. E. g. Like one man stabbing another man! Lol

[AllThatSweetJazz]

No, it should be obvious to people that it's not. God, people are so retarded. Even if it was specifically meant to be about violence against women it would still not be promoting it. In context Apocalypse doesn't give a shit about anyone or any identifier, including women. Misogyny is beneath him, he's *that* villainous.

And people trying to say it's promoting violence against women are implicitly revealing their own sexist attitudes, because if it's exactly what they say it is then that would mean that if the genders were reversed or it was only guys then it's all fine: It's promoting violence against men and that's ok (which would not be ok)

And Fox , omg wtf are you doing? Don't apologize, jeez. Not only are you giving into their BS attitudes and looking retarded, but now there's blood in the water.

[slimstiffy]

My daughter and I were just having a deep discussion on the brutality of that hideous X-Men poster yesterday. Her words: ‘Dad, why is that monster man committing violence against a woman?’
- this is everything thats wrong with our society. The fact that a nine yo sees a male looking blue monster choking a female looking blue creature and automatically thinks its violence against WOMEN. So its not violence against people, or animals or monsters or mutants or whatever. Apparentlt only violence against women is bad while all the other violence is normal!
Smh...
Then again.. I dont see much credibility in that statement anyway. Pretty sure its fabricated

[Anonymous]

I get the argument & find it sad that so many pretend not too. Its negative imagery/visuals. Google: movie billboards, click on images, & count how many show an act of violence. Read this link or do your own search on how your brain processes images of violence: www.psychologytoday.com/.../protect-your-brain-images-violence-and-cruelty & most importantly, follow up with a search of negative visuals/imagery & child development