Dear Men: Suck It The F%$k Up!

Kuraj

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Now replace the word "men" with "minorities" and see if you still like this take.

CHARismatic110

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Feel free to write whatever you're little heart desires.

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Kuraj

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Lol, figured.

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Felicia5567

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You know what makes a good joke? Punching up, not down. That's why black people making fun of white people is funny, vice versa it isn't. You don't joke about people who are in a less privileged position, and you don't pretend to be more of a victim than people in a less privileged position. You wouldn't go up to a homeless person and complain about not having cash.
So, as long as minorities aren't treated equally, you don't punch down. It's basic manners.

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Kuraj

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@Felicia5567 So you mean you don't do the thing OP did by posting this take that I posted this comment for to make her realize?

No shit.

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Felicia5567

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No. Cuz she's not punching down. Which is why this is ok, and switching the word men with minority would not be ok. Or are you claiming that men are a disadvantaged groups in society now? lol

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CHARismatic110

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@Felicia5567 that's pretty much what he's implying. Which is why I just didn't even bother. But thank you for putting it the way you did.

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Kuraj

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@Felicia5567 Punching either way is not ok, because as a third party you have no grasp of the subjective perception of injustice committed against another person and thus no right to dismiss it.

But I wouldn't expect an ignorant racist to understand.

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CHARismatic110

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You're the one that brought up the minority thing to begin with. It was irrelevant here. But I guess because you saw the color of my skin you figured it was ok to say. Figures.

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Kuraj

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I brought it up because it is something you can actually emphasize with, unlike this mytake.
You as a woman can't possibly know about the injustice the men you are whining about perceive to be subjected to.
Just the same way I as a white male can't possibly know about the injustice you face as a member of a minority group.

I could easily write a mytake about black people having to suck it up and go on about how they should stop blaming the white man for everything wrong in their life and maybe think whether they aren't the problem.
Reminds you of something?
Kind of sounds like an ignorant person thinking that because THEY don't consider something to a problem other people have no right to complain about it, doesn't it?

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CHARismatic110

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I get the point you're trying to make, but I don't feel like it's on the same level. The injustices that minorities face are not the same as the the injustices that guys face when it comes to dating. And guys are not the only ones that deal with these so called injustices. I'm a chubby, black woman so the odds are stacked against me.

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Felicia5567

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No, it's not the same. Because men, in general, around the world, are in a privileged position. You guys hold more social power, you hold most of the resources, etc. That does not mean individual men cannot struggle. But it does mean that men as a group are privileged. Whether someone says something bad about you or not will not have an actual impact on you, beyond your feelings. Meanwhile, if you promote stereotypes like "black people need to work more and stop blaming white people", you actually cause harm to people by upholding a status quo that is already hurting and hence you create an image of lazy people rather than recognizing the inherent social structures that led to differences in status, which prevents social programs to help people, it prevents resources from getting into communities, etc.

I'd understand the argument if you replaced men with white women or sth, because that gap is narrowing and it would be debatable. But not with minorities.

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sovetskii13 Follow
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Sounds like you are the one going on a rant.

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- CHARismatic110
  
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  For sure.
  
iFarted Follow
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But it's y'all, not me?

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- CHARismatic110
  
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  It's not you Philly.
  
HamAndCheese Follow
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Get the picks, boys. I've found a salt mine!

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- CHARismatic110
  
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  Lol good one, I'll have to use that.
  
Kuraj Follow
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Now replace the word "men" with "minorities" and see if you still like this take.

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- CHARismatic110
  
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  Feel free to write whatever you're little heart desires.
  
- Kuraj
  
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  Lol, figured.
  
- Felicia5567
  
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  You know what makes a good joke? Punching up, not down. That's why black people making fun of white people is funny, vice versa it isn't. You don't joke about people who are in a less privileged position, and you don't pretend to be more of a victim than people in a less privileged position. You wouldn't go up to a homeless person and complain about not having cash.
  So, as long as minorities aren't treated equally, you don't punch down. It's basic manners.
  
- Kuraj
  
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  @Felicia5567 So you mean you don't do the thing OP did by posting this take that I posted this comment for to make her realize?
  
  No shit.
  
- Felicia5567
  
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  No. Cuz she's not punching down. Which is why this is ok, and switching the word men with minority would not be ok. Or are you claiming that men are a disadvantaged groups in society now? lol
  
- CHARismatic110
  
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  @Felicia5567 that's pretty much what he's implying. Which is why I just didn't even bother. But thank you for putting it the way you did.
  
- Kuraj
  
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  @Felicia5567 Punching either way is not ok, because as a third party you have no grasp of the subjective perception of injustice committed against another person and thus no right to dismiss it.
  
  But I wouldn't expect an ignorant racist to understand.
  
- CHARismatic110
  
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  You're the one that brought up the minority thing to begin with. It was irrelevant here. But I guess because you saw the color of my skin you figured it was ok to say. Figures.
  
- Kuraj
  
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  I brought it up because it is something you can actually emphasize with, unlike this mytake.
  You as a woman can't possibly know about the injustice the men you are whining about perceive to be subjected to.
  Just the same way I as a white male can't possibly know about the injustice you face as a member of a minority group.
  
  I could easily write a mytake about black people having to suck it up and go on about how they should stop blaming the white man for everything wrong in their life and maybe think whether they aren't the problem.
  Reminds you of something?
  Kind of sounds like an ignorant person thinking that because THEY don't consider something to a problem other people have no right to complain about it, doesn't it?
  
- CHARismatic110
  
  +1 y
  I get the point you're trying to make, but I don't feel like it's on the same level. The injustices that minorities face are not the same as the the injustices that guys face when it comes to dating. And guys are not the only ones that deal with these so called injustices. I'm a chubby, black woman so the odds are stacked against me.
  
- Felicia5567
  
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  No, it's not the same. Because men, in general, around the world, are in a privileged position. You guys hold more social power, you hold most of the resources, etc. That does not mean individual men cannot struggle. But it does mean that men as a group are privileged. Whether someone says something bad about you or not will not have an actual impact on you, beyond your feelings. Meanwhile, if you promote stereotypes like "black people need to work more and stop blaming white people", you actually cause harm to people by upholding a status quo that is already hurting and hence you create an image of lazy people rather than recognizing the inherent social structures that led to differences in status, which prevents social programs to help people, it prevents resources from getting into communities, etc.
  
  I'd understand the argument if you replaced men with white women or sth, because that gap is narrowing and it would be debatable. But not with minorities.
  
Shaft50 Follow
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Nicely said

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  Thanks!
  
- Shaft50
  
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  A pleasure
  
legalboxers Follow
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wow.. yeah.. well.. wow...

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qwer3cdfsetg Follow
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relax brah

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- CHARismatic110
  
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  I'm relaxed bro
  
That2kKid21 Follow
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I blame women for this idiotic post lol.

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CT_CD Follow
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Interesting

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Huuuuuuuuurrrrrk Follow
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TL;DR

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- CHARismatic110
  
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  Too lame, don't respond? Ok, cool. 😁
  
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İntereting

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