Why is there fat acceptance but not "short acceptance"?

[Anonymous]

Men are suppose to put up with fat women even though almost all of them can slim down if they want to

But it's OK for women to discriminate against short men even though short men can't help it at all
(I'm not short by the way)

Why the double standard?

Basically women's desires are OK but men's desires are not?

[Outofthegrey]

Well I am short, and that's not all that true.

1.) Fat acceptance is mostly pushed in the United States, where 1/3 of Americans are overweight, and the average American male over the age of 30 is considered obese. This is simply good business to promote songs, models, and causes that push being happy with who you are even though it is unhealthy. On a business sense it is better to have people happily being unhealthy and continuing to eat processed food all the time thanks to all the movements about how being overweight is perfectly fine and sexy, instead of people getting upset about who they are and making a change to fix it.

2.) This is both fat men and women, you simply see this focused more towards women due to the higher perceived value in body image for females.

3.) At 5'6'', you would be surprised how little height really matters for the average girl. Yes, there are ideals. But an ideal is quite a bit different from the only acceptable option. It is my experience that women do not necessarily want a tall man, just a man who is taller than them. Even being 3-4 inches shorter than the average male, I'm still 2 inches above the average female height, so it isn't all that big of a deal.

4.) You act as if I would want to be with a girl who says "only 6'' or taller". Even if a relationship with that girl was possible, it wouldn't be viable. We all have our own particular shallow checklist, and that isn't a bad thing. I want to be with someone who finds me attractive, just as I want to be with someone I find attractive.

5.) The last sentence has is actually backwards. Men are allowed to want what they want with minimal backlash. But, as is clear with this question, should a woman say what she wants - there's a shitstorm.

[Asker]

No a fat guy is just fat. A fat girl is curvy even if she has no curves lol

True some girls only want guys taller than them not necessarily taller than average. But that still cuts off a lot of girls for a short guy

Discriminating against short guys is 100% shallow tho. Weight reflects personality for almost everyone (yeah there's a small number that genuinely can't control it). So it's not all shallow to discriminate by weight

Minimal backlash? LOL. But you admit there is fat acceptance movement. So there is backlash

[Outofthegrey]

I wasn't aware fat was a gender.

[Asker]

Didn't say it was

[normalice]

well, the fat acceptance thing is because if people continued to shame fat people, they might eat healthier, and all the fast food restaurants and crap food suppliers would go out of business. But, no one profits off of short people, so no one in the media is going to stand up for them.

[CHARismatic110]

The "fat acceptance" movement is less about wanting guys to "put up with fat women" and more about wanting society to stop making bigger people feel like shit and allowing them to still love themselves even if they aren't a size 2.

I don't feel like these 2 things are on the same level. And I personally don't have issues with short men. And I don't know many women that do. I think that short males have more of a problem accepting their height than women do. Most of them have complexes that they deflect onto to everyone else.

[Asker]

They are not on the same level. True.

Almost all fat people can control their weight. Can't control height.

And lots of fat girls can get men. But short men have a serious problem in dating

If being rejected by some people for being fat makes you feel like shit imagine what a short guy must go thru: being rejected by almost every girl

[CHARismatic110]

I see short guys in relationships all the time. But then what is you definition of a short guy?

And just to address something I saw you to someone else, there is absolutely rudeness when it comes to "fat" women.

[Asker]

I'm talking about shorter than average men especially if he is also shorter than the girl he wants

Where? When was the last time you heard someone be rude to a fat woman?

[CHARismatic110]

Have you just joined this site?

And like I said, I personally don't have a problem with short guys.

[Asker]

Have you just joined this site? Almost every girl has a height requirement

[CHARismatic110]

No, I think that girls are asked what they prefer and it's mostly tall guys. But just because they prefer a taller guy doesn't mean that they won't date a short one. I answer "tall" on those questions and polls too but guess what? I have yet to actually date a guy taller than me.

[Artistic_Soul]

@Asker I'm taller than my boyfriend and I'm 5ft 4in. I think he's adorable and I call him my minion. :-) And I'm not the perfect body lol So acceptance does exist for both. And I can't 100% control my weight. I have a medical problem which makes it hard to. Not impossible but hard. Everyone should just accept that people come in all shapes and sizes. Everyone needs to love themselves. And worrying about people who don't like you because of appearances is just a waste of time :-) I honestly don't care if you think I'm too big and he's to short we're perfect imperfectly. (Did not mean YOU just using the word in general.)

[Asker]

Doesn't change the fact that the height requirement exists. Might be lower than height PREFERENCE. But it still exists and almost every girl has one

[Asker]

Never said there aren't exceptions

[Aleera]

Well you don't have to accept being with a girl who is overweight, you just don't have to be rude and hurtful. EventhoughI'm not fat or tall ( just 1,68). I for instance think I'm shallow enough to don't like short guys. I know it's bad and I can't explain it... But I've never been rude to them. there are girls who like short guys as well so they'll find someone.

[Asker]

There is no rudeness to fat women

Hardly any girls like short guys even tho they can't control it. Many guys like or will put up with fat girls

[Aleera]

Yeah. But girls like or put up with overweight guys as well. Besides there are guys who don't like short girls as well. Don't you all want models? :-P

[Artistic_Soul]

@Asker There is rudeness EVERYWHERE for bigger women. They get called "fatties" or "blobs" etc.. And those people don't put up with them. And I love my short guy. I plan on being with him forever. It us stupid to think that everyone "puts up" with bigger women... when I get called a fat ass by some of my own family members and I'm not even that big AND they know its hard for me to lose the weight. I rarely hear girls or people in general speak illy of short guys. And who cares if someone doesn't like short guys? Its their preference. Just like some guys don't like bigger girls. But it is STUPID to say fat women are toloerated when most feel shitty because of the mean ass people in this world.

[Asker]

most women dont say it to short guys faces. But ask them yourself. Most women have height requirements

Most guys will put up with fat women.

Fat woman: "Some guys don't like me because I'm fat" =/= Short guy: "Almost no girls like me because I'm short"

[Aleera]

Yeah but shouldn't you put it like?:fat woman "some guys don't like me because I'm fat " =fat guys "some girls don't like me because I'm fat " and short girls "some guys don't like me because I'm short "=short guys "some girls don't like me because I'm short "

[Anonymous]

Thats the power of women. Jk. I dont really care bout guys height. As long as he is taller then me its fine. I am small so that wouldn't be too hard lol. There was this guy who used to work with me. He was so hot. All the girls were talking bout him. He wasn't that tall either. Its just personal taste. Not all guys like fat girls..

[Anonymous]

"But it's OK for women to discriminate against short men even though short men can't help it at all"

Sorry, but I've never encountered this in real life. I only ever hear short arsed insecure men bitching about it. Never heard women even bring it up.

[Asker]

So women are lying when they say they won't date a guy below a particular height?

[Asker]

Even the girls answering here don't go that far lol!

[Opinion Owner]

Out of the 4 answers you got so far, only one said she wouldn't date below a certain height.
So yeah, I think this is a mental dude issue. Not a real issue.

[Asker]

But I didn't ask that specific question. Thats why. But if they thought I was lying about girls discriminating against short men they would say so wouldn't they. Only one girl said so and she isn't even very clear about it.

If you really think what you say you think ask the question on this site. Cause it's pretty common knowledge! Surprised that any one would deny it

[Opinion Owner]

I don't doubt I'd find plenty of short arse guys on this site who would claim it's a problem.
I'm saying I've never come across that problem in the real world. Never met a short man who couldn't find a date, never met a girl who wouldn't date someone based on their height.

No post on GAG is going to change 40 years of experience for me.

[Asker]

Ah ok. but that's different. How many women have you asked if they have height requirements? And Men don't generally tell other people every single rejection they have had and even if they did they don't usually have the reason given to them by the rejecting women

[UberTroll]

"I only ever hear short arsed insecure men bitching about it. Never heard women even bring it up." lol that's very true, I'm surprised I didn't notice that before.

[Opinion Owner]

@UberTroll There is no reason you should notice what some internet short arse has to say.

[UberTroll]

You're kind of stretching the "fat acceptance" thing. Like someone else said, it's about not shaming people for being fat. If you don't want to date fat girls that's fine, just don't make fun of them for being fat. There's no double standard there.

[Findesemana]

some forms of discrimniation have more weight (no pun intended) behind them... it's just how it is.

If taking the USA into account, then racism and sexism are worse, because people were enslaved, killed, denied teh right to vote, etc. on their race/gender.

Nobody deserves to be bullied, however if being denied dates or being laughed at by women for being short are the extent of this, then i think society should pay more attention to racism or sexism than fat acceptance...

[why_ask_me]

Hahah calling it out like is I like that.. Imma average height guy and I feel bad for the shorties you guys got it rough well some do to me anything below 5'10" is short

[kheserthorpe]

Because men don't get sympathy.

Joking.

Except...

I'm not.

[TedStar]

L😞L

[rthomas43]

Double standard? Since when can I not discriminate against overweight women when it comes to dating?

[Asker]

By law you can. But now there is a movement to make it seem wrong. But the fat acceptance movement doesn't say anything about short acceptance

[rthomas43]

That movement is losing steam.
Nobody will fault you for not be attracted to someone. Just like you can't fault them for not being attracted to you.

[Asker]

Losing steam? It is getting stronger

[rthomas43]

The pro fat movement is facing backlash from the get healthy movement.

[TedStar]

Because guys don't, t have feeling. Society as well as partriachy wasn't all good to men. Some guys got the short end of the stick

[linkywinky]

Every man I've ever met / spoken to is taller than me so...

[atomique]

@linkywinky You are 155cm...

[linkywinky]

@atomique correct...

[Asker]

Doesn't really answer the question but OK

And I'm not just talking about women wanting guys taller than them. I'm talking about women wanting taller than average guys

[Klaatu51]

i thought fat girls were the ones who are made fun of mostly, than short guys.

[Akari]

Because society sucks that's why. Standards should NOT exist

[lordAlex818]

Fat acceptance is not shaming people who are fat. It has nothing to do with being attracted to them

[bubbletrouble]

What are you talking about? Fat people still get bullied.

[Error_204]

Poor lifestyle choices =/= Biological realities