Is MGTOW the fastest growing club in the West?

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In Japan, 70% of young men are already herbivores which means they don't want anything to do with girls sexually and are quite content with porn. Their numbers are growing. They have feminist laws, but they are not brainwashed by feminism. In Asian countries like India and China the patriarchy is still somewhat strong, and particularly strong outside cities which is why they don't have all these problems. In Saudi Arabia and muslim countries, women are still not allowed to leave the house without a permission of a man, and they still have many restrictions placed on them.

Poor western men are extensively brainwashed and are becoming mentally ill. Scandinavian people lie about being happy, and their countries are the biggest buyers of anti-depressants by far. But nature seems to be on our side and MGTOW seems to be the fastest growing club here.

NO WOMEN ALLOWED for once... since women's invasion of the man's world

Watermelonoma · Accepted Answer

"In Asian countries like India and China the patriarchy is still somewhat strong, and particularly strong outside cities which is why they don't have all these problems. "

except in these countries, you have the opposite extreme, where women are the ones clearly subjugated under unfair laws and attitudes, and men enjoy most of the benefits. Unlike the USA in my opinion, India is a real example of what a rape culture looks like... where rapists aren't prosecuted as seriously as they should be. In the USA, if a guy is accused of rape, his life is already over before he's even proven guilty of the crime. In india, its pretty much the opposite. So in place of having problems for men, they have huge problems for women. I think you're coming at this from a biased perspective.

As I've said in the past MGTOW can be a good thing for young men who want to focus on their careers, as women are often a distraction for them. But i don't believe mgtow is a good thing for society as a whole to adopt as sort of a permanent measure. Japan atm has a population crisis due to a lack of relationships starting, and its cited as one of the fastest shrinking populations in the western world, which has huge implications on their society, especially considering how xenophobic they still are, which is why they hardly have any non japanese immigrants living in the country on a permanent basis. The future doesn't look great for them.

Maverickj · Accepted Answer

It's pretty fast-growing, yes. Just a natural response to sexist laws.

Hell, some 95 year old farmer was just forced to pay alimony by the courts, despite prenuptial agreements. The amount of alimony is higher than his income, so he will either have to sell his farm or rot in jail.

It's not even the woman doing this, the courts are doing this themselves. Divorced men are disposable walking ATM's. No wonder MGTOW is growing.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

More and more women are siding with more reasonable divorce and family laws. I think we're in a weird place now legally where a big chunk of the older female population agreed to stay home to raise kids and was financially powerless (a 50 year old with no outside skills won't find a job) but a big chunk of the younger generation has more financial power. As the generations turn over, laws will change.

Men don't need to dominate and possess women to be happy. I don't buy into the male superiority complex worldview. I don't believe that keeping women subservient is the key to societal success.

I know plenty of "modern" guys who are happy having a true partner and not a dependent in his wife. Likewise, many love getting to spend more time with their kids and not working 80 hours a week to make ends meet. Some say they resented not having their dad in their lives and find more balanced roles relieving. Others say they enjoy that their wife understands them and they can talk about the pressures they feel.

Meanwhile, nobody is stopping people from having "traditional" marriages.

It's not so black and white as a lot of the interwebz suggest. There are many facets.

JulyAndrews · Accepted Answer

I can't answer your question as there are no hard figures on this. If it wasn't for the internet I would have not known about this whole MGTOW thing.

But I applaud men for stop obsessing about women and doing their own thing. I don't think women have issues with that. If it makes you happy go for it! I don't obsess about men and women, I do my own thing and have casual sexual encounters with both men and women. I focus on myself, my own development and 'hang out' casually with men and women. If someone comes along that I fall in love with.. great.. if not.. also great because I'm still enjoying myself.

But maybe MGTOW is about something else and I've got the purpose wrong?

GirlScoutsRevenge · Accepted Answer

Maybe you should stop relating all your disappointments and failings to women. I think men, like women, need to find their own worth and place within this world without attaching that worth to another human. Stop buying into all the stereotypical bullshit of mainstream society. Mainstream society is shit and that's why I try and have as little to do with it as I can manage, while still being a working member of society and paying my dues. Stop buying the shit they sell people, stop thinking women want this shit too, they want what they are told to want. This isn't a gender thing, this is a social thing. Society is fucking lame.

BuchitaBuchys · Accepted Answer

Oh damn. You're not another bitter guy who can't get laid so he's become desperate and pathetic to the point where he finds women's suffering and subjugation pleasurable?
There are wayyyyy too many of y'all on the internet.

I say good riddance to guys like that. If someone is that bitter and condescending to the opposite sex (if they're straight), then let their asses be bitter and single and alone.

Grisbosque · Answer

MGTOW is not about hating, its about getting beyond all that, and just being yourself, and being a realist...

we learn how not to care what anybody thinks, so, enjoy your own opinions, they are meaningless to us other than as discussion points of why we dont go there any more...

and its not about being self centered, its more about just avoiding problems and enjoying the benefits of doing that...

most get to MGTOW via experiences like divorces or seeing patterns like women playing head games...

women think guys are too stupid to see the games, not so, we just realize that women are not going to change unless the society crashes and they have to eat what crawls under rocks, and have to lift the rocks themselves to get the running munchies...

its not a hate group, its a dispassionate group... (a fart in your general direction)

all relationships are based on trust...
we dont have any.. how did that happen?

mirror, mirror, on the wall, who's the most wonderful of them all?

ME! me! me!

fill in the mirror with your own face...

anyway, not much to discuss, your criticism is meaningless, we just consider the source, and go back to doing what we want...

boys will be boys, we were only temporarily distracted by your fake image beauty...

we soon realized it was magic; a fairy princess with a toad under the magic spell...

anyway, good luck without us!

dont go away mad, just go away...

oh! enjoy your job! and stock up on cat food.

creepycreeper · Answer

I like girls but yeah they have effectively scared the piss out of most men and sent them running for the hills. I'll explain how I think they did this.

- Generations of trashy women fuck up their kids and husbands lives
- A few men get sick of it eventually and decide to bitch about it on the internet
- Almost all women, even the good ones, side with the trashy women
- Men read these comments saying it's okay to let guys pull trains on you and shit and start to think ALL women are like that.

Good women, stop making excuses for the bad ones. Stop saying it's okay for them to sleep around and cheat and stuff. It makes you all look bad.

justanothergager · Answer

Because women are a huge risk. Unless u want kids they use men for money and resources without adding a whole lot to the value of his life.

Sex is cheap but committed sex from a girlfriend is very expensive. Women cause pain if ur not making money.

DodgersGM · Answer

No offense, but MGTOW sounds like a bunch of weenies that blame their problems with life (and more importantly, their problems with women) on women.

It's like the kid who threatens to take his ball home with him when things don't go his way at the playground. Super childish behavior.

Anonymous · Answer

You make it sound like MGTOW is anti-female. Is that true?

Going your own way and living by your own rules is one thing. But if it crosses over into gender hatred, isn't that just as bad as the radical feminism you're reacting to?

SheWhoShallNotBnamed · Answer

NO WOMEN ALLOWED... what is that? Big boys version of no girls in the tree house?

BertMacklinFBI · Answer

no women allowed? as in in this post? also, MGTOW.. hahaa. really don't know what to fucking think but if guys wanna live without pussy, that's cool, more for me.

Trayus · Answer

Yes. Yes it is.

Dandeus · Answer

I sure hope so. Chicks are great and if you self loathing fucks wanna go hang out with each other, more power to ya!

syncheart · Answer

I think MGTOW exists because women have gotten weird. They don't think they need a man anymore. They also think they can dress however they want and no man should look at them. I'm not a fan of MGTOW but I've had my fair share of problems with women. I got so frustrated that I finally had to give up.

Goldie757 · Answer

Dude are you serious?

CHARismatic110 · Answer

No women allowed? What's next? Boys rule, girls drool?

Strider90 · Answer

Japan is a crazy country generally speaking.
As for the MGTOW movement or way of life (call it what you want) I don't know how strong it is in Europe but it is obvious that most men avoid a serious long term relationship.

Nuqood · Answer

As stupid as MGTOW is, it's hilarious seeing all the angry women making passive-aggressive, sarcastic comments trying to act like 'Men Only' didn't actually make them mad.

madhatters4 · Answer

70% of men? no. 66% of japanese men by age 30 have not had a relationship they saw as having marriage prospects. only 1in4 (so 25% are unmarried by age 50.

fastest growing club in the west?

where are you getting your information

Neil_MGTOW101 · Answer

Hello there. I think you misunderstand MGTOW. All it means is no relationships and no marriage. Certainly no kids. Get a vasectomy is our first advice to any males out there. Also if you want to look at some videos about MGTOW and hate the idea of listening to men talk about it look up KAREN STRAUGHAN and some of her videos.
Needless to say, there are some elements in MGTOW which are misogynists. But even feminism has misandrist elements.

Anonymous · Answer

Personally I can't understand why a man should be bitter about not getting laid. There are always prostitutes to buy and since most women are whores anyway, It really doesn't matter if you buy it or get it for free. You give them power over you which is what the feminist society wants. Even jerking off is a better option than the abuse men have to subject themselves to in a matriarchal society. Let their cats give them offspring, better them than us.

KDA20 · Answer

It may be the fastest growing club in the west but I certainly have no desire to join it.

Jessicocoa · Answer

So mgtow's a club now? What do you do at the meetings? Sit in a circle and take turns bitching about your experiences with women?

tenofthepeaks · Answer

i don't care if women are equal. prove equality is so bad...

COCOCHANEL · Answer

i don't know about 70％ of japanese not wanting anything to do with women but maybe the 30% are just too active.

zell0is0my0name · Answer

Where did you read all this :D? Amazing really. But why aren't women allowed.. And what is MGTOW?

unicornsnrainbows · Answer

Just online, it's where guys who can't get girls meet up and whine. Personally I think they are closeted homosexuals.

MidnightCowboy · Answer

I never met someone who is part of MGTOW. What I heard is they're a bunch of whiny snowflakes.

Davethewaveslave81 · Answer

On the new Special K commercial, women say: "WE'RE WOMEN. WE EAT, AND WE OWN IT." What the fuck does that mean?

Bards · Answer

No not really Just on the internet

ThatBritishLad · Answer

Hehheh, hoo... Ha. ... Oh you're serious.

BellePepper · Answer

I heard it was Scientology.

hypno-trip · Answer

It should be balanced between men and women

Dbolen777 · Answer

Marriage is dead.

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