Just got back from Wonder Woman and I thought of this question.
Ps, i thought it was a good movie :D
Fuck no, let a dog save my life. Let an aomeba pull me from drowning, whatever makes me live. I never gave a shit about other peoples' sense of masculinity. It does not follow to me that even the manliest of men are never going to be put into a position where they might need the help of a hand that may or may not have painted nails. Gravity exists, raging violent animals exist & so do guns, volcanic eruptions & helicopters exist. If one of these fucks with your ability to survive and you feel like less of a man because a woman uses the other to rescue you, I think survival might not be as For you.
Definitely would not be emasculated, would I ever be able to properly thank a person who saved my life. Probably not. Ironically one time when I was working out after school in my high school weight room I was benching and my arms gave out and the two girls in front of me (they were about to do squats) looked at me briefly and sort of chuckled to themselves while I was struggling to get the weight of my chest and away from my neck, luckily a couple buddy's of mine from fitness class came in time to help me get the bar back up to it's rest. Didn't Bench Press for nearly a year.
My biggest complaint about this post is that you have ruined part of the movie for me. Next time you post something with a new movie put a freaking spoiler alert at the beginning of the question!
@Goldie757 thank you
I don't watch trailers. So for me this ruined a key plot point, don't assume that just because you do something that everyone does.
And the point you ruined was full on pointing out that she saves the character in question in the photo you posted. So the suspense that would have been established in that scene is ruined.
Yes and still will but it is common courtesy to give people a heads up to something like this that I wouldn't have clicked on had it said spoiler.
@Goldie757 You keep telling yourself that. I hope it makes you feel good. A simple Spoiler at the beginning of the question wouldn't have hurt.
@Justacatlady, but you see, this is as much a spoiler as saying: "Hey, Bruce Wayne's parents are killed in the next Batman movie". It's a core element of Wonder Woman's storyline. I remember being a kid watching this scene even in cartoons.
@ChocEyes1 again, not everyone has followed this storyline like you have. I don't know her story so everything about this movie would be brand new to me.
This will be the last time I look at this thread.
@Justacatlady Couldn't agree more.
If you are spoiled by this image about the movie then apparently you didn't know Wonder Woman to begin with.
If a guy is still thinking about his masculinity after a near death experience, I would throw him back under the bus
meanie
ariel saved eric in a little mermaid! it was alright in like 1992. should be alright now lol.
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No... What would I? Haven't watched it yet, but I think I will.
Wasn't very excited for it after "Batman vs. Superman", which is one of the worst films I have ever seen, but people are saying nice things about "Wonder Woman".
Imagine masculinity so fragile that you'd rather DIE than a woman save your life.
We call that a strong sense of masculinity, not a fragile one 😂😂
Well think about it this way, your sense of your manhood is so great that you would rather die than be saved (esp saved by a woman).
And if a guy wouldn't mind being saved i would argue his sense of masculinity and pride is lower than the first guy
Well thats just how a lot of guys are. And in this case its kinda stupid, but that same mentality is pretty attractive to women, in other situations, from what i see. Well , i guess you can't have ot both ways.
However nowadays most guys aren't really that much prideful, about these things
i spot a feminist
na, its my power to spot nonsense
feminism is cancer and never logical
but about the women saving part... i dont have a answer for that
I've never been in that situation so yes i don't have a answer
I feel like you don't have to be in the situation to decide whether or not you'd rather DIE than someone help you because they have a vagina but OK lmao. I sincerely hope you live a healthy, cautious lifestyle because usually when you are in those situations you dont have too many minutes to think about it.
ok only if she's hot
guys I know this fight is over... and useless... when we are in a tough situation , human as a group doesn't care much about pride when in a near death situation... so no need to fight over it... all men will be Willing to accept a ladies help in such a situation...
men prefer to be saved by a hot girl... like in fantasy movies.. lol...( actually me too will like to be saved by a cute girl... not much into hot stuff )
I think you mean wife or girlfriend... by saying loved ones... probably I won't date them... so the question won't rise...
this does not represent the male population. They are probably trolls. No sane person really would die with ''pride'' opposed to getting saved by a girl, thats just stupid on any level possible
Lol okay i dont agree with the hot woman part. If im gonna be saved, i dont care who does it. And im not complaining, like i said in my own comment, id be feeling very grateful , but later i may just have a little ego struggle that i needed help to survive
ha-ha crazy... believe me women need men , more for safety purposes then men needs women for.. so if everyman started to ignore a lady when she is in need then... what will happen...
who me... are you calling me a stupid
ha-ha... what can I say , you didn't mention anyone and mine was the last comment so... it is Normal to misunderstand bro
oh.. now don't blame your dumb on me... lol
oh...
@taybae717 That is very true. And it doesn't look like we're catching up at all hahahahaha
lol, hey, its guys like that why people still exist
*its because of guys like that, that people still exist
@lord_chilled I pulled it out of my ass but to some extent it is true.
@lumos since you want to take it there I guess the women who get dragged down with men are just easily manipulated. Like the same case where the women keeps going back to the abusive man, or the fact that there are countless stories where serial killers have convinced girls to do their bidding because they were so dumb founded by the guys presence and trusted in their cause, even if it was to that extent of murder. Women are not primitive too.
women are not primitive too? the question mark was missing
the same people who point fingers at others are usually overlooking their own gender. Stop being self righteous.
the topic was not about men dying at alarming rates, I did not change the topic so dont try and blame me. She took that route, not me..
she is the one who brought women dying at the hands of risky males.
if thats all you got from it then you missed my point. There is a reason why I mentioned her being self righteous and that is for the sole reason that women are not any less primitive than men. Men are risky, women are manipulated by risky men.
yeah, I guess it is ''fantastic'' lol but no, her point was a bit one dimensional and vague. It only gave 1 perspective to it and not both sides
''so I think y'all should take a look at yourselves first ''
this is what I meant by one sided. This was not ''proving her point'' in fact, my point is nothing like hers. Im not pointing my finger at one gender, this is why I called her self righteous. both are primitive, that wasn't where she was going with that reply at all
Im not to sure about that. Maybe from one sided people. But its possible to not overlook things when debating. it means you aren't biased
When you debate, you pick a side and argue that point. You can't be on the fence or prove two differing opinions as right. I see what your comment was in regards to and I dont disagree at all because there's countless forms of supporting evidence that while men may be boneheaded, women allow themselves to be lead into it. However, self righteous or not, you did still prove her point that men get women into trouble and thats probably all that concerns her 😘
no, thats not all that concerns here. she told men to ''look at themselves'' her point was to point a finger, and thats why she brought up the topic in the first place. Also, it is possible to be on the fence with a debate when you have experienced both sides of the spectrum you can understand where someone is going with something. you shouldn't just debate people with while covering your ears you should at least hear them out and try to find some middle ground to what you agree with because a lot of the time, you will have something in common.
like for example, im on the fence with a lot of debates as I usually use skepticism with almost anything.
I did not prove her point because mines was not going in the same direction. What she is basically doing is the equivalent to someone who gets in a car with people who know they will do something bad, stick around and get charged with a crime and then telling the people who she chose to hang with to ''look at themselves'' when she was also involved. My point actually talked about both sides, and putting equal responsibility, not telling one gender to ''look at yourself''
@lumos ''About 85 to 90 percent of sexual assaults reported by college women are perpetrated by someone known to the victim'' half of those victims are have been so manipulated that they dont even consider it to be rape. www.nij.gov/.../know-attacker.aspx The same with women being abused, a large portion of them never leave, and even put their children in these horrible conditions. you can go on a tangent and talk about the women who dont know the guy, but majority of victims know the offender, and a lot of the time they convince themselves that they are wrong and are easily manipulated. Besides that, you act like women are the only ones who are victims of male crime. Guess who suffers the most under male crime? males. This doesn't concern you though, does it? you are to one sided
Trust me, if all men choose to run, and live to fight another day, then we wouldn't have survived. Yes those guys were necessary too to reproduce , for example if all the brave (or stupid, if thats what you prefer) men died.
In ancient times, when humans were sometimes the hunted ones ( by our arch enemy wolves, or bigger threats like sabretooths and other big cats , bears etc, you would need that one or maybe 2-3 knuckleheads who tought they could take em, while the rest of the tribe/family escaped.
Even if you are the hunter, say you get a big animal that could feed the teibe for quite some time, but would take a risky blow to take it out, the careful (or cowardly as i call em) guys wouldn't do that, it would be the risk taker to do it. The guy with the ego. The guy with the overblown sense of manliness.
The fact that those characteristics still exist basically imply that they were necessary for human survival.
They may seem stupid now, but i dont see a shortage of women for those guys
@lumos yeah well , i see you jad quite the discussion about it as well, but im just gonna say that a lot of guys die due to women too. You may not kill is directyly, but you sure do have the habit of egging us on to get into some sort of drama. A lot of guys have killed each other over a woman. Now you can't tell me the woman had no part in that, she obviously influenced them.
Yup, its not always the guys who kill each other and women. It goes for women too
@lord_chilled lol
ha-ha guys killing for a lady... lol I hope all guys aren't idiot... to kill each other for a lady...
and the lady who said about using women as sex slaves , and rape... how many women has ever reported rape cases... nearly 90% of ladies keep quiet with such stuff.. and that leads to letting the criminal go loose... and he will rape another one... now you can even blame me by saying that I am supporting a rapist... but it isn't true...
ha-ha... if I say that... I will have to kill you... lol ( I don't know it was a guess work...)
lol...
You would have to be very insecure to be anything but thankful when someone else saves your life.
I would like to do this, it sounds so romantic... except for male feelings, sorry if hurt, but let girls show love by saving you ❤
*btw *idk the movie yet, watching this week, pretty pretty please no spoilers or will cry... my eyes can't have more tears today...
I feel like Wonder Woman is just more cake, after being forced fed similar cake with Ghostbusters, The Force Awakens, Rogue One, Dead Men Tell No Tales, Frozen, etc, etc, etc...
Right now I couldn't give a shit if a woman or man saved my life. I just want off this boat.
If someone saved my life I wouldn't care who it was. To be honest right now if I'm willing to jump in and save a women I expect the same in return (assuming they are able anyway). The days where only men are expected to act have passed. Now it's just human decency to do what you can.
If my life is in need of saving, I be happy if a pink teddy bear blowing glitter out his ass saved me.
... let's hope it doesn't come to that...
I guess not depending on the circumstances... But I do feel like if five guys were beating me to a pulp, and then some girl steeped in and kicked their ass, i'd be grateful but it would still be very weird lmao. If it's a case where she pushes me so I don't get hit by a truck or something similar to that I wouldn't be emasculated no
I'm fine with it because in order for me to lose in the first place, the person would have to have a gun or be really fucking strong or skilled. And if a woman comes by that happens to be a more skilled warrior then me well then go for it.
Besides it's the skill not the gender that saves me at the end of the day.
But lets be honest about 80-90% of the time it's going to be the other way around. Life isn't a comic book after all.
I think if you did your not secure in your masculinity. It's your life who cares who saves it, it's saved. Right
Nope, I wouldn't feel emasculated. I would feel disappointed in myself because I couldn't save myself. I would say thank you but I would feel retarded at the same time. I would feel like a failure. Oh yeah, there is NOTHING emasculating or romantic about a woman saving a man's life...
I'd feel obliged! Women save men's lives everyday, surgeons, er nurses, firefighters, cops etc. I wouldn't even trip, but definitely tell her thank you!
And mothers (good ones) too.
Yup, I don't know how I forgot mom's, I'm glad mine don't go on the internet, lol.
I don't care who saves my life. Is there actually guys who think like this? lol.
I'd feel just the same if a guy were to have saved me; grateful -- gender wouldn't even come into play and I don't see why it would in the first place.
I would just be thankful that I am still alive... i mean there really are some girls out there that really would save a random man's life... thats the type of girl I would want to be with lol... And omg YES Wonder Woman was soooo good I LOVED it.
As a guy who grew up with comics and with shows with kick ass female heroes I wouldn't feel bad about it at all. Also being raised by a single mother I know how strong a woman can be
have a woman physician. she saved my life last year. she's the best there is, in the field she's in.. she just so happens to be a woman..
she saved my life dude. she's a doctor, she saved my life. girl or guy, she saved my life!
nah... id think she's the one... I can always count on her and that would then make me do anything for her... loyalty is strong in this one.. one you save this pup... you are a friend for life till death
Yea totally, I would much rather die than to have to live with the embarrassment of having been saved by a woman...
But in all seriousness of course not.
Think about the alternative and then you have your answer.
Furthermore, think about it: They give you life.
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