Should the HPV vaccine be required for school?

[Anonymous]

I dont think it should be🤷‍♀️ but I also never got the shots and don't think they are important.

[sejla]

I grew up during a period of time that most of us were vaccinated after the preschool years at school. I'm not sure if the HPV should be required for school because the HPV vaccine has a 10 year window.

What doctors have done is recommended vaccinating teenagers and young adults when they think they will be most active which might be different for different people. Say someone is active very young early teen vaccination might be best for them whereas some people wait until their early 20s before they become sexually active. Vaccinating the later group at 12 would mean the vaccination might be inactive when they really need it when they are 20 something.

It is tricky though because not vaccinating in the teen years only works if your kid is going to come to the parent and say I"m going to be sexually active which isn't always the case.

I'm would assume that people would have to keep revaccinating every 10 years if they remained single and dating. It's important for men too because HPV has been linked to prostate cancer.

Supposedly after 50/menopause women can't catch HPV but my doctor and I agreed since I never tested positive for the major cancer producing HPVs strains that I should get vaccinated before I started dating which I did as well as Hep A and B since I've never been vaccinated for those and Hep B can be transmitted by sex.

[sejla]

I forgot HPV can cause oral cancer in both women and men contracted through oral sex.

[btbc92]

No. Forcing somebody to vaccinate for something that shouldn't concern anybody else other than the parents and the those who are sexually interested or involved is against the rights of any human being or citizen. If you don't want HPV, don't have sex. My late mother had it and died from cancer from it because somebody lied to her about being affected.

The vaccine cannot protect you from getting cancer from it. It is only designed to prevent certain strains that MAY lead to cancer and there are millions of them that can still lead to cancer or other health problems. HPV is HPV. Cancer can still happen from other factors. Diet, sexual health and lifestyle is key to either prevention or lowering the risk. Human parasites are the root cause of most cancers that are sexually transmitted and called STDs. Kids should be taught to wait for marriage and marry early. Not being taught how to have sex so-called safely. There is no such thing. One can still get some form of STDs even without sharing nettles, having sex or being raped.

[AL1994ind]

Ahh they are important in general but I dont think they should be made necessary for school.
They just protect you from cervical cancer if you have multiple sex partners, cervical infection which could lead to infertility , so yeah they're important

[Asker]

Such a good answer

[AL1994ind]

thanks !

[Anonymous]

I had an HPV infection five years ago and I was completely horrified at the time. I found out on my bday and I had just been dumped three weeks prior. I confronted my ex about it. She told me she was vaccinated before we met and literally told me “tough luck you are an ex”. It was by far one the worst dating experience I ever had in my life. It still haunts me to this day. However I’ve no infections since.

Also to my relief I found that most women are now vaccinated for that. I bring it up right before sex and it’s always been a non issue (thank God)

Point being is please please ABSOLUTELY mandate HPV vaccinations. I’m hate all these moron anti vaxxers and all their stupid ass conspiracy theories. I wish I was vaccinated but I’m too old and male for it to happen.

This can help eradicate HPV cancers and GWs from society for good. They are also working on a vaccination for genital herpes (I don’t have that). That disease brings suffering to tens of millions of people worldwide. It also puts you at much higher risk of getting HIV. Find a vaccination for it! And fuck you anti vaxxers for blocking this.

[Asker]

Almost all Americans have had Hpv at some point in their life. It clears up on it's own and usually isn't a big problem. The shot doesn't prevent all warts or cancer, only certain strains

[Fuentes]

Here's w food fir thought old bones next time wear a condom 🤷🤦

[Boppy]

Males can get the HPV vaccination as well. I've had it done.

[Opinion Owner]

@Fuentes get educated you dumb fuck. HPV is a SKIN TO SKIN transmitted disease. A condom only gives you partial protection. If you had sex you probably have it too. It’s just a very small percentage of people who have symptoms.

The level of ignorance about this disease is absolutely incredible. And at 27 you aren’t exactly a spring chicken either. You are not too far behind me. Get your head out of your ass.

[Opinion Owner]

@Boppy good. That gives you a peace of mind

I wouldn’t wish my HPV experience on my worst enemy. It was absolutely horrifyinng and depressing. Then we got uneducated anti vaccination morons like @fuentes thinking that a condom is all you need. I always wore condoms and I still got it.

[Opinion Owner]

Still though the benefits outweigh the risks.

The immune system fights off infections. But once you have it, you always have it. I think the shock and depression of the break up lowered my immunity at the time causing the infection.

[Asker]

How long did you guys date?

[Fuentes]

Look old man i look 22 and you probably look 50 so idc lol plus maybe i do got something but it must've went away by its self cause yes even with a condom that pussy still dripping all over the end of my dick but i must be lucky because i dont wife thots

[Opinion Owner]

We dated for a year which during the time she incessantly told me how lucky she was to have me, how good looking I was, how she loved who I was “good to the core”. Etc.

But I wasn’t ready to be in a LT relationship at the time. I didn’t cheat but acted disconnected. She eventually broke up with me and I accepted it without getting angry or trying to talk her out of it. Just sad at the time.

But after a break up you are supposed to improve yourself, see new people, etc. Then I got that nasty HPV surprise. I debated for 3 weeks to say something or not. I knew bringing it up would make the chances of reconciling go from slim to zero. But I brought it up out of concern for her health. And she did the most callous, nasty, insidious thing she could do.

Point being ALL of that pain and depression could have been avoided if I was vaccinated.

[cavmanier]

Having visible hpv warts are totally different than the types that cause cancer. You wouldn't even know if you have those.

[Opinion Owner]

@cavmanier they aren't life threatening. But I felt like a lepor.

[RegularTK421]

It should. All girls should be forced to receive the HPV vaccination because public health is more important. Girls should only be exempt from the vaccine for medically acceptable reasons. If we can reduce the prevalence of STD's in our society, then we should.

[Asker]

What about the boys?

[RegularTK421]

For boys as well. I forgot that boys can get the shot now.

[Waffles731]

Yes even boys.

I used to cry when recieving a shot until I was 15 because I was a FUCKING PANSY

[Wharvey98]

I think vaccines for all communicable diseases that cannot be cured should be required in school. Children have to go to school unless their parents can homeschool them. Children aren’t old enough to decide wether or not they’re willing to risk getting a disease. Just because they’re parents are dumbasses doesn’t mean the children should have to suffer the consequences of their parents ineptitude.

[cavmanier]

If we do this though, we are saying the government knows better than the individual. And why would the gov stop at vaccines?

"Children aren’t old enough to decide wether or not they’re willing to risk getting a disease"

We would have to consider banning certain foods and forcing exercise to really stay true to that. I mean look at our number one killer in America--heart disease--and then look at our escalating obese children rates. We would really had to turn that control over to the government i m o.

Even though vaccines make sense, I'm not convinced at giving the government that power.

[Wharvey98]

We actually already do those things in the public school system.
Banning foods, many schools strictly control what children can and cannot have access to for meals in school.
Forcing exercise, there’s an entire class that every child has to take dedicated to exercise. Gym class.

[cavmanier]

It's not nearly the same. They don't come into our homes forcing diets and kids can bring any lunch they want to school. I agree with vaccines but I think we should be able to disagree with the government when it comes to our bodies.

The hpv vaccine went through clinical trails which implies that vaccines can possibly have side effects. Maybe a religious couple having a child doesn't want those antibodies in their kid that they are going to raise to not have casual sex. The kid wouldn't need the vaccine in that situation.

Forced vaccines have stronger arguments against airborne viruses. I still don't like the idea of the parents not having input, even if they are dumb. Dying from not having a vaccine is rare. If rates got high, then it would also be a stronger argument.

[call_me_scar]

All vaccines should be required for school if the idiotic parents don't like it I'll gladly put them in a room with a disease they're not vaccinated for and wait for them to start dropping sense they're willing to do it to their kids

[Asker]

But hpv is very treatable and almost never ends in death🤷‍♀️

[stardust101]

@Apple1996? Where are you getting your information? HPV is NOT treatable, however, you can treat the symptoms and sometimes it can go away on its own but not in all cases

[stardust101]

@Apple1996 and it can lead to death if it develops into cervical cancer

[Asker]

@stardust101 it goes away on it's own and if they get cancer it is treatable

[sejla]

HPV is not treatable except if they catch the cancerous cells early enough to laser them off. I've met a 20 year who had cancer because her doctor chose not to laser off the precancerous cells the year before. A lot of doctors do let's wait and see. I had precancerous cells which were not linked to HPV and my doctor did one treatment and they went away but when I tested positive again he removed the cells with a laser.

[sejla]

Yes you are right it can go away on its own if the person's body fights it off but it doesn't happen to everyone.

[xesadd007]

The HPV vaccine helps protect you against certain types of HPV that can lead to cancer or genital warts. Also known by the brand name Gardasil 9, the HPV vaccine protects against: HPV types 16 and 18 — the 2 types that cause 80% of cervical cancer cases. HPV types 6 and 11, which cause 90% of genital warts cases.

[Asker]

Yes but is that really important for kids going to school

[xesadd007]

Vaccine is used for whole life purpose.

[Asker]

Okay so you think shots shouldn't be important to go to school but overall in life

[Keith469]

HPV causes cervical cancer as well as oral and throat (ahem) cancers in both men and women.

I don't think it should be required, but I think it should be offered to all children upon a parent's consent, and from age 14 and up I think all unvaccinated children should receive an annual educational briefing followed by a no pressure opportunity to opt in.

[Waffles731]

The HPV vaccine also protects against cervical cancer, would you rather your kid die of cancer in a part of her body that can be embarrassing to talk about?

[Asker]

I'm really not that concerned about it. If they get cancer then we will deal with it and get them help

[Waffles731]

The HPV vaccine is a LOT less traumatic and even with treatment a mortality rate exists

[Asker]

Because cancer is part of life, I disagree with people trying to prevent it. My mom has had cancer 3 times and said she would do it all over again because that's how her life was meant to be

[Waffles731]

There is liteeally NO downside to the HPV vaccine where some of the things it can prevent can kill someone even with treatment

[Waffles731]

My grandfather died in his fifties because of his lifestyle, he literally died before his first grandson, me, was born.

So whether its a 2 packs a day and greasy food combined with a bad family history or a preventivable with vaccine disease, forgive me if I think that's not a very smart decision

So excuse me

[Asker]

You do know 7 girls died from getting this shot. It would have been better for them to get cancer and fight it

[Waffles731]

Its not actually the vaccine and even if it was.

You said 7 women die a year?

4,210 women and girls die a year from Cervical Cancer, something preventable with the vaccine

[Waffles731]

And at least five times a week I think about my maternal grandfather.

We don't even know where he served, all that we know is he brought back an artillery shell back to use as an ash tray, we THINK he was in Korea but despite my mom's serving as well as he did, we simply haven't found a place that will let us know.

[Asker]

And I dont think there is any proof that the shot acutally works overtime for older women that get cervical cancer. So it is only protecting younger women who have a lower risk anyways of cervical cancer

[sejla]

And there is a link to prostate cancer in men too. As well as oral cancers.

[stardust101]

@Apple1996 it’s important to prevent cancer as much as a person can. Even with cervical cancer it’s treatable. There’s plenty of other types of cancer that isn’t preventable, why take the risk of getting a cancer that is?

[Waffles731]

@sejla prostate Cancer is literally inevitable if you live long enough.

If every man loved in to their 90s or their 100s then literally every man on earth would get prostate cancer

[stardust101]

@Apple1996 besides even though cervical cancer is treatable, a woman can’t have babies without a cervix and what if she wants babies?

[Asker]

@stardust101 oh no. Shell have to do it the same way that gays have babies 😯

[sejla]

Again that goes back to the HPV. Think about all the men that went to war and were having sex all over the place before they settled down with their wives. It takes years sometimes for women and men to develop cancer. You will see a lot of women in their 60s who only had one partner develop cancer then.

[Asker]

@stardust101 what's so wrong with cancer? I dont see why we need to prevent it. People get sick with cancer it's totally normal and part of life. If they die then that's their life

[stardust101]

@Apple1996 so you’re one of those people that just wait for life to happen to you instead of creating your own life?

[Asker]

@stardust101 I have no need to create my own. God has already chosen my path

[sejla]

We prevent as much as we can with all diseases.

[Keith469]

@Apple1996 "Because cancer is part of life, I disagree with people trying to prevent it"

I am undergoing cancer treatment now.

YOU HAVE NO FUCKING IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

[Asker]

@Keith469 I've never personally had it but my mom had breast cancer 3 different times and I had to take care of her so I do know a lot about it

[Asker]

@Keith469 and so sorry to hear that. What type of cancer do you have

[stardust101]

@Keith469 I just underwent cancer surgery. I have. MRI appointment coming up soon to determine if I need radiation. Undergoing cancer treatment is NOT fun. I had skin cancer and due to the doctors misdiagnosing me, I now have a 7 inch wide incision near my groin and half of my leg is numb. I sure hope Apple1996 rethinks things around here

[Keith469]

@Apple1996: "What type of cancer do you have."

The potentially deadly kind.

So... I guess you're against condoms, too. I mean after all HIV is treatable and there'll probably be a cure pretty soon.

Or it's OK for people to smoke in bed, because sometimes they fall asleep and die in a fire. It's just a thing that happens, so they need not get out of bed to smoke.

I'm not trying to be snarky, but your logic iis as absurd as the cases I just cited.

[Keith469]

@stardust101 Sorry you have to go through that. I'm in a similar position. Feel free to privately message me for support.

[okeydoke]

With all due respect, what the fuck is wrong with you? You would rather your child die from a preventable disease then protect against it? Do you not wear seatbelts either?

[okeydoke]

@Apple1996

[Asker]

@okeydoke haha hey I only forgot the seatbelts once and that was thrilling for my son. Best two mintues till I pulled over and buckled him in

[okeydoke]

That's actually not funny or cute. If you ended up in an accident, your son could have died.

[Asker]

@okeydoke do you even have kids?

[Asker]

@okeydoke and it was a accident that I didn't buckle him. I didn't purposefully leave him like that.

[okeydoke]

I don't, and I don't see how that's relevant. I've been a teacher and I know enough about child welfare to know that your views on vaccines and car safety make you an irresponsible parent.

[Asker]

@okeydoke because everyone that isn't a parent gives too many fucks about these types of things. Most parents are chill about shots and things like car seats. And you know my kids are fully vaccinated? Just because I view vaccines a certain way doesn't mean that my kids dont have them

[cipher42]

@Apple1996 are you a troll or just crazy? You don't see why we should be preventing cancer? Because god chooses our paths? Like, you brush your teeth, right? Wash your hands? Obviously you're in favor of seatbelts. You probably do all sorts of other things to prevent injury/sickness, yeah? And generally, stuff to make sure your future self is healthy and taken care of? Sooooo, how is trying to lower your odds of getting cancer different from ant of that? Seriously, your logic here is pretty alarmingly inconsistent

[Screenwriter]

You have to get innoculated before you're exposed to HPV. It isn't given past age 26. And if given after exposure it's pretty much useless. Doesn't prevent anything.

[Felinegirl]

No, not getting it doesn't endanger your classmates.

Some of the vaccines kids get aren't for themselves, they're to protect younger kids and pregnant women. Those vaccines should be required I think, so pregnant women can safely drop off their older kids at school and young mothers can bring their baby along when picking up their school kids.

[Anonymous]

I think they are important and should be required to have while in school because the vaccine is used to help prevent genital warts, anal cancer, cervical cancer, vulvar cancer, and vaginal cancer caused by certain types of human papillomavirus (HPV). It is also used to prevent lesions that are caused by those viruses

[sejla]

Oral cancer too.

[Opinion Owner]

@sejla oh thank you

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

I heard their requiring both Females and Males to get these vaccines
yes i agree they should require these vaccines to be given to people
in October 2018, the FDA approved Gardasil9 for women and men
ages 27 to 45. HPV vaccines are extremely effective at preventing
infection by the HPV types they cover. Getting the HPV vaccine
reduces a woman's risk of cervical cancer and precancerous
growths substantially.

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

www.webmd.com/.../adult-hpv-vaccine-guidelines#1

[Holy_Ghost_Fire]

No. I am anti vaccine and against drugs. Making vaccines mandatory for public and private school admittance is absurd and barbaric. Governmental forcing to comply is bullying.

[okeydoke]

Or, you know, it's saving you and yours kids dying from preventable diseases.

[Holy_Ghost_Fire]

No it's not. No proof what we would get. I'm anti vaccine so I don't agree with it. Bully me all you know for having different views.

[okeydoke]

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5402432/

Yes, yes it is. What's your source for your opinion. I'm not bullying you, I'm engaging you because you are putting lives in danger.

[Asker]

I agree there isn't any proof that this shot acutally works

[okeydoke]

www.statnews.com/.../

www.cochrane.org/.../does-hpv-vaccination-prevent-development-cervical-cancer-are-there-harms-associated-being

There's lots of proof. Do y'all read?

[Asker]

@okeydoke that isn't proof tho

[okeydoke]

I literally posted academic articles. What would you consider proof?

[Asker]

@okeydoke it would have to be shown far in the future to see if it works throughout a women life

[Asker]

They can't even test hpv in men so that's a even bigger problem. There is no way to show that it will work in men unless they can test it in men

[okeydoke]

I think you missed the point. It prevents cancer in those who take it. I honestly don't understand why you're against something that keeps you healthy. Even if it only does until you're elderly.

[okeydoke]

That's exactly why it's recommended that men take the vaccine. So that they don't pass it on to partners.

[Asker]

@okeydoke I just dont see hpv as dangerous 🤷‍♀️

[okeydoke]

How is getting cancer not dangerous?

[okeydoke]

That is an objectively incorrect opinion. That's like saying you don't believe in dinosaurs. It's not an opinion, it's just incorrect.

[Asker]

@okeydoke because almost everyone gets it

[Asker]

@okeydoke my mom had breast cancer 3 times and fought it. Even if she ended up dying I would have been okay with it because it is part of life and that is how some people are meant to die

[okeydoke]

And in the 1300s almost everyone had the Plague. And a huge chunk of the population died. With all due respect, that opinion is obtuse and incredibly ignorant.

[Asker]

@okeydoke that's not a fact. If I dont want to believe in dinosaurs then I dont have to

[Asker]

@okeydoke I'm just not scared of death. It's totally normal and natural

[okeydoke]

No one is meant to die in any particular way. I've had young friends who died from rare and incredibly painful forms of cancer. Cancer is not inherently a part of life.
And wait: do you actually not believe in the existence of dinosaurs?

[okeydoke]

I'm not talking about death, I'm talking about cancer.

[Asker]

@okeydoke I dont see anything wrong with cancer

[okeydoke]

You're alone then. Cancer is a terrible and painful disease, I've watched people close to me die painfully due to it, and I'm looking forward to it being cured.

[okeydoke]

And seriously, do you not believe in dinosaurs?

[Asker]

@okeydoke my whole family thinks it's not bad. When my mom got cancer we decided to stay extremely positive and think of it as a blessing that she got it. So she could show her true strength

[okeydoke]

With all due respect, your family sounds nuts. Lots of children get cancer. But you wouldn't cure them because death is a part of life?

And I'm still waiting on the dinosaur thing. I really want to know.

[Asker]

@okeydoke no I believe in them. I just dont believe what they say about them. Like how they died and all that

[COMMODOREII]

They should just be apart of your normal boosters. Stop trying to make it always a school thing.

[Asker]

I'm pretty sure some parents only get their kids shots so they can go to school

[COMMODOREII]

I do like vodka and whiskey.

[Asker]

I like jello shots the best

[COMMODOREII]

Ooo yeah. We gotta go out together and hit up the scene. Lol😎

[Anonymous]

I think teens should be given the option and I don't think they should require parental consent if under medical supervision.

[Asker]

That sounds like a good idea

[BrittBratt2416]

mmm I suppose cause one time I a saw and old class mate of mine, and he had a wart on his hand I high fived him not thinking about it, then ended up getting a wart on my scalp.. it was weird. But after that I never got one again thankfully.

[BlueberrySnap]

Yes they should unless you have some condition like an especially weak immune system

[Asker]

But hpv isn't dangerous to other unless you are having sex with eachother

[BlueberrySnap]

HPV can lead to a lot of different cancers from cervix, to oral, to anal. While those strains do spread from sex, it's better to vaccinate them as soon as you can. After all, you can't vaccinate someone from a disease they already have

[Asker]

I cannot see how that would be important for school

[wankiam]

@asker because here in the uk and Europe and possibly america too many schoolkids have sexual experiences and hpv can be passed by having sex just once

[just_a_potato]

I don't think it has to be REQUIRED but it should definitely be recommended in schools, and even be free in schools as well. I just think a shot to prevent something you can avoid if you aren't careless shouldn't be mandatory

[MsShy87]

I think that they should be required at a certain age, before the person becomes sexually active. You don't realize how dangerous HPV can be until you end up with cervical cancer. I did. Back when I was younger there was no such thing as an HPV vaccine.

[Daniel3035]

HPV is very common its dangerous in anal sex ie gay men. Beyond that it's common on the face and it's not an issue it's basically harmless on the body right now so there really is no need it's there and exists and does nothing except in the colon.

[Waffles731]

The HPV Vaccine prevents Cervical Cancer which kills 4,210 women and girls a year

[Twalli]

@Waffles731 You don't even know if a guy has it, it can't be tested in guys.

[Daniel3035]

@Waffles731 That too but it won't stop all of those cancers unfortunately.

[Waffles731]

That's a really fucking stupid statement, that's like a soldier saying well this body armor will protect me from an assault rifle but it won't do a thing against Semtex so might as well not wear body armor

[Daniel3035]

@Waffles731 Well you know what they say a stupid statement comes from a stupid perception. Where did I say so you might as well not have it? No where you should think before you speak and not make such rude accusations and your 24 too.

[Waffles731]

Okay what translator should I get because those look like English words but read like nonsense

[Daniel3035]

@Waffles731 Google translate might help lmao. And well you see that's exactly why I said "a stupid statement comes from a stupid perception" if your mind reads my factual statement as nonsense who's fault is that? Yup the brain of that person all I said was it doesn't stop all cervical cancers which you somehow took as me saying no need for the vaccine? And you were then retarded enough to to call it a stupid statement when you can't read my mind?

[okeydoke]

Absolutely. It can prevent cancer. There's no good reason not to get it.

[Asker]

Hpv is that dangerous tho. To me it's a waste considering almost all Americans get HPV at some point in their lives

[okeydoke]

And people die of cancer due to it. It's obtuse not to prevent suffering if you can.

[Asker]

Cervical cancer is very treatable

[okeydoke]

"The mortality rate was 2.4 deaths per 100,000 women per year. In 2010, an estimated 12,200 women in the United States will be diagnosed with cervical cancer, and an estimated 4,210 will die of the disease. ... Virtually all cases of cervical cancer are caused by specific types of human papillomavirus (HPV)."

And thousands of people still die every year. You know what's better than something maybe being treatable? Not having to treat it at all.

[Asker]

Most of those women are older and they have no idea if the shot still works when women get older

[okeydoke]

So? If it prevents cancer in younger women then it's still worth it.

[cavmanier]

Gardisil mainly only prevents 2 strains known to be related to most cervical cancer. There are over a hundred strains of that virus though which are more often benign.

[okeydoke]

@cavmanier

Right, which is the point. It protects against cancer causing strains. There's really no need to protect against strains that have no effect on health or quality of life.

[Inexpensivefurniture]

I would say no since HVP is sexually transmitted so it's not the same as a kid who hasn't had a measles vaccine.

[wankiam]

its aimed at teens though and just at the time many are starting to experiment as much as we all think thats wrong

[alexia18]

No no no no no this pissed me off look at the stats on hw many people get it talk about bubble wrapping people

[wankiam]

yes and already is for girls in the uk but also now talk of giving it to boys too which can only be a good thing

[Kelnius]

I think so, yeah. You inoculate as many as you can, as quickly as you can. That's how vaccines work...

[R_Cakes91]

Absolutely they should be required. Cervical cancer is a huge deal

[slatyb]

No because HPV is mostly transmitted by intimate contact.

[Taylor_C]

Of course not. It isn´t against any socially transmittable disease.

[AngelLily]

I think I saw a article showing the Japanese cracking down on illnesses that happened from said vaccine.

[pizzalovershouse]

I think basic shots should be done cuz of spread of things like measles

[Walrus_au]

I would like to see it that universal, but requiring it for school seems a step too far.

[Walrus_au]

I'm A-OK with requiring vaccinations for diseases that are comunicable in school situations.

[Anonymous]

It's not an issue if you're not at risk for communicable diseases. I would have been a virgin going into college if a classmate decided she wanted to be with another virgin her first time and wanted to have sex before college. I had a sexual fwb-like relationship early on in college, but as both girls were virgins I knew I wasn't at risk.

[Kezzz]

Yes a vaccine never hurt nobody (except for that prick) and viruses are dangerous so better to be protected and prepared.

[Shamalien]

Vaccines have hurt many and even the companies that make them acknowledge that

[Liam_Hayden]

Your body, your choice? Or does that only apply when someone wants to destroy a genetically distinct human entity?

[NatalieKeller95]

what's a genetically distinct human entity? give an example

[Screenwriter]

Children get the vaccine at age 11 or 12 before being sexually active and exposed to the virus. If you wait until later it could be too late. Once exposed, the shot doesn't work. You can get the shot until age 26, I think. So, it's actually the parents' choice. I got it for my son. It can also be passed from hands to genitals and hand to hand... People have warts on their hands. So children can be exposed in nonsexual ways. There were 7 deaths out of 29 million vaccines from 2014 to 2017. Before 1963 and the MMR vaccine for measles, mumps and ruebella, an estimated 600000 measles cases occurred per year, and 500 deaths were associated with those cases. Immunocompromised children may rarely die due to MMR vaccines, but no healthy children have. 20 million people have not had the illness and 32000 have not died from it, exrapolating from those (1955) figures. The HPV protects from infections and cancers. It does far more good than imposes risk.

[DAikman]

There's an HPV vaccine? Does it work for both oral and genital?

[cavmanier]

People get it orally from oral sex. That's an interesting question though. It probably does.

[Fuentes]

Any shots i don't have none of my kids should have lol

[okeydoke]

Why understand that science develops over time! I'm guessing your kids shouldn't use new technologies either, because you didn't have them in the past?

[Fuentes]

@okeydoke yeah you believe anything Humans have been healthy for years

[okeydoke]

-_- Really? Millions of people die of terminal diseases every year. And many of them are preventable. For the diseases that have nearly disappeared, vaccines are completely responsible.

[Fuentes]

@okeydoke HPV isn't causing death or terminal illness

[okeydoke]

Except for cancer. That's the entire reason to prevent it.

[okeydoke]

www.who.int/.../human-papillomavirus-(hpv)-and-cervical-cancer

[Fuentes]

@okeydoke im not a women i don't need to worry about cervical cancer

[okeydoke]

Except that men can be carriers, never know they're carriers, and accidentally give their partners cancer. Getting inoculated is a social responsibility at that point.

[esotericstory]

Its paid for by the social security system in my country, also for boys, or thats coming in the future.

[DanOh2018]

It has a lot of consumer complaints, I would say that it's a rare miss in the vaccine world and shouldn't be mandatory.

[Chadnelson1973]

No. As people have died from it and it's caused reproductive problems

[Screenwriter]

This is a myth. The vaccine does not cause infertility problems. HPV infections cause infertility problems.

[Screenwriter]

@Shamalien There are millions of cases of vaccines causing mild fevers and rashes, fainting spells from people being stuck by needles and falling and hitting their heads. There are not millions of deaths or irreparable injuries from vaccines. No autism. Vaccines have saved hundreds of millions of lives. The smallpox vaccine has wiped out the disease worldwide period. In 1952 polio infected 58000 people in the US and killed 3000. Since vaccinations began in the mid 50s, the disease has been virtually wiped out in the US since 1979. Smallpox was considered wiped out worldwide in 1980. The deaths FROM these worldwide illnesses have always exceeded the tiny number of people who had medical adverse reactions, from them. They have never numbered in the millions. Deaths are tiny percentages. There is always a small risk a few people are allergic or immunocompromised from ingredients in vaccines. But the risk from the illness is usually greater than from any vaccine. It is always your choice to not have yourself or your children vaccinated against illnesses that can be life threatening like pneumonia, the flu. or German and common measles. My son never had measles or mumps which made me miss 10 days of school each and made me so sick I still remember having them. The chief reason so few people get the measles, mumps or ruebella is that more than 80 percent of the population is immunized. The reason no one has smallpox and practically no one has polio and no one dies of them is immunization. You can't argue with those successes.

[Shamalien]

No autism my ass gtfo you have no idea the PR machines and the money spent for you to have that opinion and be arguing it to me now

Investment really paid off for them didn't it

[Shamalien]

The #1 reason we have less disease is cleanliness, chlorine and soap

[Screenwriter]

@Shamalien You're right. If you believe no risk is worth taking to protect yourself and children from a communicable illness, then you shouldn't get vaccinations. You're also right about cleanliness being the primary reason food and waterborne illnesses rarely happen in first world countries. However, communicable illnesses like MMR, flu, TB, polio, smallpox are not food or waterborne. Only eradicating the viruses or bacterium stops the spread. Over the lifetime of live vaccines like smallpox there have been millions of deaths. But a few million deaths since the 1700s is weighed against the billions saved through preventive vaccinations. The only reasons there are measles outbreaks today are because of uninoculated people. Smallpox, TB, polio and measles are virtually unheard of in the US since 1980. Smallpox has been wiped out worldwide. So have billions of deaths and lifetimes of disfiguring scars, crippled limbs and slow "Doc Holiday" demises. If you want to quote history, yes, millions have died due to side affects of innoculations. But disease death, illness risk and illness spread is far greater than vaccine risks. A one in 29 million risk of an adverse effect is not statistically measurable: the Gardasil risk factor. Prophylaxis protects us all with extremely low risk levels.

[Chadnelson1973]

Yes basic hygiene prevent a lot of sickness as do modern water treatment and modern sewage treatment in keeping bacteria and other harmful pathogens to low manageable levels. In regards to vaccines it's should be a choice but also big pharma needs to be open with full disclosure of side affects and dangers as well as benifits so people can make a informed decision of what's right for them and their families. Yes big pharma has done a lot of good but they have also done a lot of harm.

[Shamalien]

Its not one in 29 million when it comes to adverse effects, with the mmr vaccine one in 10k kids gad adverse immune response resulting in harm. The autism link is so undeniable I won’t even waste my time arguing, its way higher than one in 10k, and I’m raising my kids out of the city, in nature, away from the airports and filth that comes here from disease ridden lands, they will be natural and healthy without vaccines as nature intended

[Anonymous]

HPV is sexually transmitted so I wouldn't say it should be required for schools, other vaccines like the measles and polio vaccines etc. should be though

[Howard5069]

If that is the flu vaccine then I say yes. To many times the flu is deadly. How fair would it be for an unvaccinated child to give it to another unvaccinated child. By doing this the flu can mutate and infect more.

[Asker]

Omg no HPV is what causes genital warts and cervical and anal cancer. Had nothing to do with the flu

[Therisinghero12]

I think it's important to stay up to date on all your vaccines.

[CuriousMufuxka]

Sure.. Right after a legitimate test for diagnosing Pap is created/discovered.

[XenoXHu]

Would be better getting genital herpes isn't that funny I guess and it also could kill u :d

[Asker]

But is that really important for school?

[XenoXHu]

Yep you wouldn't want to spread other diseases right? So it would be good

[Asker]

It only becomes a issue because kids are having sex and spreading this disease

[XenoXHu]

Diseases in general are still bad why do you want to have a disease instead of doing something against it it's just dumb xD

[WolfsRoze]

I'm not a big fan of "requirement" in general...

[WolfsRoze]

I only say this because at what age can you be expected to make that decision?

[Asker]

For hpv it's for kids around 11

[cavmanier]

I largely agree because then you are at the mercy of the government in charge of your autonomy. Why would they not encroach onto sugared drinks? You also have no choice if they are somehow incorrect. There would have to be the possibility of massive lawsuits and giant government insurance plans.

[MissDawn7961]

everyone going to school and babies should be vaccinated when they are told or suggested to do so

[CoffeeWC]

Yes. I don't understand why people choose to not vaccinate their child. Sometimes I feel like they are just afraid of needles.

[Asker]

My kids get vaccinated, just some of the shots are not important to me and I dont agree with them.

[KrispyKrunch]

I think so. No one deserves to get cancer in their yaya zone

[MementoMori_]

Why not make the pill mandatory then?

[GreenGold1992]

I just looked up what HPV means, what the fuck?

[buttcrackjoe]

Why? Not everyone is sexually active.

[NatalieKeller95]

yeah them special ed kids will never be having sex

[buttcrackjoe]

@NatalieKeller95 i always question ulterior motives like financial kickbacks from big pharma america is pretty much the land of crony capitalism

[NatalieKeller95]

ok that has nothing to do with, spec ed kids and how they're sexually undesirable but ok

[buttcrackjoe]

@NatalieKeller95 i figured you comment was a complete thought and needed no response

[buttcrackjoe]

But yes i agree special ed kids are not going to be having sex most likely

[NatalieKeller95]

if only they could fix that, what makes them such duds?

[Grond21]

Now, I don't think so.

[jimmy2]

I would as volunteer but it is a very good idea

[Tim-loves-it]

Id have to read up on it first

[oldoldold]

No. It not like mèasels etc

[johnieohm]

yes, for college and high school

[Nachowedgie]

No it should be illegal

[bklynbadboy1]

Yes I think it definitely should

[1truekhaleesi]

It prevents cancer, so yes.

[TheWaterisFine]

Absolutely not.

[Agape93]

Yes.

[outside_Toronto]

no it should not

[blondfrog]

Yes it should

[saeyamazaki]

I think so yeah.