It's not an issue if you're not at risk for communicable diseases. I would have been a virgin going into college if a classmate decided she wanted to be with another virgin her first time and wanted to have sex before college. I had a sexual fwb-like relationship early on in college, but as both girls were virgins I knew I wasn't at risk.
Children get the vaccine at age 11 or 12 before being sexually active and exposed to the virus. If you wait until later it could be too late. Once exposed, the shot doesn't work. You can get the shot until age 26, I think. So, it's actually the parents' choice. I got it for my son. It can also be passed from hands to genitals and hand to hand... People have warts on their hands. So children can be exposed in nonsexual ways. There were 7 deaths out of 29 million vaccines from 2014 to 2017. Before 1963 and the MMR vaccine for measles, mumps and ruebella, an estimated 600000 measles cases occurred per year, and 500 deaths were associated with those cases. Immunocompromised children may rarely die due to MMR vaccines, but no healthy children have. 20 million people have not had the illness and 32000 have not died from it, exrapolating from those (1955) figures. The HPV protects from infections and cancers. It does far more good than imposes risk.
Why understand that science develops over time! I'm guessing your kids shouldn't use new technologies either, because you didn't have them in the past?
-_- Really? Millions of people die of terminal diseases every year. And many of them are preventable. For the diseases that have nearly disappeared, vaccines are completely responsible.
Except that men can be carriers, never know they're carriers, and accidentally give their partners cancer. Getting inoculated is a social responsibility at that point.
@Shamalien There are millions of cases of vaccines causing mild fevers and rashes, fainting spells from people being stuck by needles and falling and hitting their heads. There are not millions of deaths or irreparable injuries from vaccines. No autism. Vaccines have saved hundreds of millions of lives. The smallpox vaccine has wiped out the disease worldwide period. In 1952 polio infected 58000 people in the US and killed 3000. Since vaccinations began in the mid 50s, the disease has been virtually wiped out in the US since 1979. Smallpox was considered wiped out worldwide in 1980. The deaths FROM these worldwide illnesses have always exceeded the tiny number of people who had medical adverse reactions, from them. They have never numbered in the millions. Deaths are tiny percentages. There is always a small risk a few people are allergic or immunocompromised from ingredients in vaccines. But the risk from the illness is usually greater than from any vaccine. It is always your choice to not have yourself or your children vaccinated against illnesses that can be life threatening like pneumonia, the flu. or German and common measles. My son never had measles or mumps which made me miss 10 days of school each and made me so sick I still remember having them. The chief reason so few people get the measles, mumps or ruebella is that more than 80 percent of the population is immunized. The reason no one has smallpox and practically no one has polio and no one dies of them is immunization. You can't argue with those successes.
@Shamalien You're right. If you believe no risk is worth taking to protect yourself and children from a communicable illness, then you shouldn't get vaccinations. You're also right about cleanliness being the primary reason food and waterborne illnesses rarely happen in first world countries. However, communicable illnesses like MMR, flu, TB, polio, smallpox are not food or waterborne. Only eradicating the viruses or bacterium stops the spread. Over the lifetime of live vaccines like smallpox there have been millions of deaths. But a few million deaths since the 1700s is weighed against the billions saved through preventive vaccinations. The only reasons there are measles outbreaks today are because of uninoculated people. Smallpox, TB, polio and measles are virtually unheard of in the US since 1980. Smallpox has been wiped out worldwide. So have billions of deaths and lifetimes of disfiguring scars, crippled limbs and slow "Doc Holiday" demises. If you want to quote history, yes, millions have died due to side affects of innoculations. But disease death, illness risk and illness spread is far greater than vaccine risks. A one in 29 million risk of an adverse effect is not statistically measurable: the Gardasil risk factor. Prophylaxis protects us all with extremely low risk levels.
Yes basic hygiene prevent a lot of sickness as do modern water treatment and modern sewage treatment in keeping bacteria and other harmful pathogens to low manageable levels. In regards to vaccines it's should be a choice but also big pharma needs to be open with full disclosure of side affects and dangers as well as benifits so people can make a informed decision of what's right for them and their families. Yes big pharma has done a lot of good but they have also done a lot of harm.
Its not one in 29 million when it comes to adverse effects, with the mmr vaccine one in 10k kids gad adverse immune response resulting in harm. The autism link is so undeniable I won’t even waste my time arguing, its way higher than one in 10k, and I’m raising my kids out of the city, in nature, away from the airports and filth that comes here from disease ridden lands, they will be natural and healthy without vaccines as nature intended
HPV is sexually transmitted so I wouldn't say it should be required for schools, other vaccines like the measles and polio vaccines etc. should be though
If that is the flu vaccine then I say yes. To many times the flu is deadly. How fair would it be for an unvaccinated child to give it to another unvaccinated child. By doing this the flu can mutate and infect more.
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I think so, yeah. You inoculate as many as you can, as quickly as you can. That's how vaccines work...
No because HPV is mostly transmitted by intimate contact.
Absolutely they should be required. Cervical cancer is a huge deal
Of course not. It isn´t against any socially transmittable disease.
I think I saw a article showing the Japanese cracking down on illnesses that happened from said vaccine.
I think basic shots should be done cuz of spread of things like measles
I would like to see it that universal, but requiring it for school seems a step too far.
I'm A-OK with requiring vaccinations for diseases that are comunicable in school situations.
It's not an issue if you're not at risk for communicable diseases. I would have been a virgin going into college if a classmate decided she wanted to be with another virgin her first time and wanted to have sex before college. I had a sexual fwb-like relationship early on in college, but as both girls were virgins I knew I wasn't at risk.
Yes a vaccine never hurt nobody (except for that prick) and viruses are dangerous so better to be protected and prepared.
Vaccines have hurt many and even the companies that make them acknowledge that
Your body, your choice? Or does that only apply when someone wants to destroy a genetically distinct human entity?
what's a genetically distinct human entity? give an example
Children get the vaccine at age 11 or 12 before being sexually active and exposed to the virus. If you wait until later it could be too late. Once exposed, the shot doesn't work. You can get the shot until age 26, I think. So, it's actually the parents' choice. I got it for my son. It can also be passed from hands to genitals and hand to hand... People have warts on their hands. So children can be exposed in nonsexual ways. There were 7 deaths out of 29 million vaccines from 2014 to 2017. Before 1963 and the MMR vaccine for measles, mumps and ruebella, an estimated 600000 measles cases occurred per year, and 500 deaths were associated with those cases. Immunocompromised children may rarely die due to MMR vaccines, but no healthy children have. 20 million people have not had the illness and 32000 have not died from it, exrapolating from those (1955) figures. The HPV protects from infections and cancers. It does far more good than imposes risk.
There's an HPV vaccine? Does it work for both oral and genital?
People get it orally from oral sex. That's an interesting question though. It probably does.
Any shots i don't have none of my kids should have lol
Why understand that science develops over time! I'm guessing your kids shouldn't use new technologies either, because you didn't have them in the past?
@okeydoke yeah you believe anything Humans have been healthy for years
-_- Really? Millions of people die of terminal diseases every year. And many of them are preventable. For the diseases that have nearly disappeared, vaccines are completely responsible.
@okeydoke HPV isn't causing death or terminal illness
Except for cancer. That's the entire reason to prevent it.
www.who.int/.../human-papillomavirus-(hpv)-and-cervical-cancer
@okeydoke im not a women i don't need to worry about cervical cancer
Except that men can be carriers, never know they're carriers, and accidentally give their partners cancer. Getting inoculated is a social responsibility at that point.
Its paid for by the social security system in my country, also for boys, or thats coming in the future.
It has a lot of consumer complaints, I would say that it's a rare miss in the vaccine world and shouldn't be mandatory.
No. As people have died from it and it's caused reproductive problems
This is a myth. The vaccine does not cause infertility problems. HPV infections cause infertility problems.
@Shamalien There are millions of cases of vaccines causing mild fevers and rashes, fainting spells from people being stuck by needles and falling and hitting their heads. There are not millions of deaths or irreparable injuries from vaccines. No autism. Vaccines have saved hundreds of millions of lives. The smallpox vaccine has wiped out the disease worldwide period. In 1952 polio infected 58000 people in the US and killed 3000. Since vaccinations began in the mid 50s, the disease has been virtually wiped out in the US since 1979. Smallpox was considered wiped out worldwide in 1980. The deaths FROM these worldwide illnesses have always exceeded the tiny number of people who had medical adverse reactions, from them. They have never numbered in the millions. Deaths are tiny percentages. There is always a small risk a few people are allergic or immunocompromised from ingredients in vaccines. But the risk from the illness is usually greater than from any vaccine. It is always your choice to not have yourself or your children vaccinated against illnesses that can be life threatening like pneumonia, the flu. or German and common measles. My son never had measles or mumps which made me miss 10 days of school each and made me so sick I still remember having them. The chief reason so few people get the measles, mumps or ruebella is that more than 80 percent of the population is immunized. The reason no one has smallpox and practically no one has polio and no one dies of them is immunization. You can't argue with those successes.
No autism my ass gtfo you have no idea the PR machines and the money spent for you to have that opinion and be arguing it to me now
Investment really paid off for them didn't it
The #1 reason we have less disease is cleanliness, chlorine and soap
@Shamalien You're right. If you believe no risk is worth taking to protect yourself and children from a communicable illness, then you shouldn't get vaccinations. You're also right about cleanliness being the primary reason food and waterborne illnesses rarely happen in first world countries. However, communicable illnesses like MMR, flu, TB, polio, smallpox are not food or waterborne. Only eradicating the viruses or bacterium stops the spread. Over the lifetime of live vaccines like smallpox there have been millions of deaths. But a few million deaths since the 1700s is weighed against the billions saved through preventive vaccinations. The only reasons there are measles outbreaks today are because of uninoculated people. Smallpox, TB, polio and measles are virtually unheard of in the US since 1980. Smallpox has been wiped out worldwide. So have billions of deaths and lifetimes of disfiguring scars, crippled limbs and slow "Doc Holiday" demises. If you want to quote history, yes, millions have died due to side affects of innoculations. But disease death, illness risk and illness spread is far greater than vaccine risks. A one in 29 million risk of an adverse effect is not statistically measurable: the Gardasil risk factor. Prophylaxis protects us all with extremely low risk levels.
Yes basic hygiene prevent a lot of sickness as do modern water treatment and modern sewage treatment in keeping bacteria and other harmful pathogens to low manageable levels. In regards to vaccines it's should be a choice but also big pharma needs to be open with full disclosure of side affects and dangers as well as benifits so people can make a informed decision of what's right for them and their families. Yes big pharma has done a lot of good but they have also done a lot of harm.
Its not one in 29 million when it comes to adverse effects, with the mmr vaccine one in 10k kids gad adverse immune response resulting in harm. The autism link is so undeniable I won’t even waste my time arguing, its way higher than one in 10k, and I’m raising my kids out of the city, in nature, away from the airports and filth that comes here from disease ridden lands, they will be natural and healthy without vaccines as nature intended
HPV is sexually transmitted so I wouldn't say it should be required for schools, other vaccines like the measles and polio vaccines etc. should be though
If that is the flu vaccine then I say yes. To many times the flu is deadly. How fair would it be for an unvaccinated child to give it to another unvaccinated child. By doing this the flu can mutate and infect more.
Omg no HPV is what causes genital warts and cervical and anal cancer. Had nothing to do with the flu
I think it's important to stay up to date on all your vaccines.
Sure.. Right after a legitimate test for diagnosing Pap is created/discovered.
Would be better getting genital herpes isn't that funny I guess and it also could kill u :d
But is that really important for school?
Yep you wouldn't want to spread other diseases right? So it would be good
It only becomes a issue because kids are having sex and spreading this disease
Diseases in general are still bad why do you want to have a disease instead of doing something against it it's just dumb xD