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I’ve had the same exact experience with my parents… They don’t seem to be aware of how much times are changing even though I’ve explained and even showed them my experiences. Dating nowadays is a nightmare, it’s “hookup culture”.
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@PhenomenalQueen I know married men in their 40s or older wondering why I haven't gotten laid, in so many years. They tell me how back decades ago before they got in a romantic relationship with their current wife, they got laid a good amount of times. And they tell me how they were always average or ugly and still didn't struggle with hookups. I told them times changed. Nowadays it is mostly the good looking and tall men that have it super easy with hookups. Nearly all average and ugly guys have it EXTREMELY HARD for like the past 15 years to get sex when not in a romantic relationship. For women, hookups have always been easy for them but now it is even easier for them due to all the apps, sites, etc. on the internet. For dating it was easier for both men and women in the past. Now a days it is harder for both, but women still have it easier with dating despite it being harder for them now. What do you think of what I just said? Talk about what those men said to me how getting laid and also talk about the other stuff I said please.
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I agree with you that women have it easier.. However, I did not know that it’s been like this for the past 15 years (for men), I didn’t realize that when it came to sex men have it that bad.. I figured there’s so many women that are open and down for that type of relationship it seems like there would be enough people for everyone. What I have found is many people lie about it what they’re truly looking for and they’re taking advantage of people.. I also know that there’s women who use men way more than they did back in the last 20 years. It’s gotten very sad how bad dating has become. I have noticed a rise in prostate cancer (which I’ve been told by many doctors can be caused by men not having sex regularly or enough). I believe people are afraid of getting into any types of relationships one because of STDs and STIs, but also because cheating has become so regular that people are afraid of going through it. I also feel like a lot of it has to do with how normalized hookups have become and the fact that we don’t know men from women anymore, I honestly feel very bad for heterosexual men because they are being tricked into relationships. (I won’t go too far into that because I get tired of being accused of being Anti lbgtq) I have seen that good looking men have the top pick of women and I’ve heard that they take account for 90% of the women on dating apps, so that does leave the others at a disadvantage. I feel like life was much easier 20-40 years ago because social media wasn’t as complicated as it is now. I also feel like because we can connect to 100 people in 30 mins, that’s what has caused relationships/dating to fail. Do you feel like serious relationships/ marriages have come to an end due to social media?
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@PhenomenalQueen The thing is since the use of the internet exploded with a lot more people using it about 10-15 years. ago, and also with the huge increase of many apps, etc., women started to get bombarded with message. from guys telling them they are cute. This caused many women to start thinking they are hot. So that caused so many of them to not date or hookup with certain guys that they knew in person or online, that they would have likely dated or hooked up with prior to the explosion of the internet. It started getting worse for average&ugly guys, with dating&hookups with women of all look ranges each year that passed. When it comes to hookups, prior to 2007/2008, guys that are average, ugly, fat, etc. didn't have a nearly impossible time hooking up with a chick of any look range from a bar, club, party, etc. Many older guys don't get it. They only had sex with their girlfriend/wife for decades. With dating, they don't get it either since they haven't dated another person for decades. For the past decade,95 percent of the guys that have it easy with hookups&dating are the good looking guys. For other guys it is hard. Hookup culture mainly exists for the hot guys&women of all look ranges. It hardly exists for nearly all average&ugly guys. If the end of romantic relationships occur, it would be mostly due to the good looking guys&women of all look ranges having so many options with dating&hookups. Tons of good looking guys are getting in romantic relationships&hookups with many women at a time. I am 30 and back when it was easier for ugly guys like me with dating and hookups, I was super shy. I am almost certain I would of had at least a couple of gfs.& a good amount of lays if I wasn't so shy back then. Since 2019, I started to become a lot less shy but that obviously doesn't make a difference for average&ugly guys when it comes to dating &hookups, in the past decade. I got laid ONCE in 2017. I haven't gotten laid since. I never had a girlfriend in my life.
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You’re not ugly Steven, there’s women who would be very attracted to you. I agree with everything that you said and it makes perfect sense. That’s very true that we get messages from guys who being honest wouldn’t give us the time of day. I think what we’re doing now (piggy backing off what you just said) is the guys that we’re truly interested in we now see them as “ugly” because like you mentioned we’re letting compliments get to our heads and we’re dating out of our ranges. Average people date average people, pretty people stick with themselves, etc… So, it makes a lot of sense that we’ve became full of ourselves. Most of us are getting played left and right.
Wow I can’t believe I never caught onto this until you mentioned it in your comments. I honestly also believe it depends on where you live, because I know out here where I live pretty privilege exists and most of the time you won’t be taken seriously unless you’re attractive and don’t have baggage like kids for example. Do you believe your location has anything to do with it? - +1 y
@PhenomenalQueen thanks but I am pretty sure I fit the general conception of ugly. I know there are some people who think I'm good looking or average, like you do, but I have so much proof of why I think I fit the general conception of ugly. George Clooney, Paul Walker, etc fit the general conception of good looking for example, but some people think they are ugly or average. At the same time I am not 100 percent sure, since people don't usually tell men, what their opinion is of how they look. The only men that get told a lot about their looks, are good looking men, but many average and ugly men are left wondering if they are conventionally ugly or average. By the way, when it comes to women that are average or ugly, and they are getting told by hot guys, they are cute, etc. most of the time, the hot guy just wants sex from them, but it seems most of these women don't realize. They believe the hot guy actually wants to date them. Of course some of them actually do want to date them, but I am talking about generally speaking. Guys of all look ranges tend to not care that much about looks when it comes to sex as compared to with dating. But there are also women who know he wants to fuck but assumes he also wants to date them just because he wants to fuck that average or ugly chick. That is why a huge percentage of average and ugly women out there think they are models because of the hot guys saying whatever to just get into her pants. While most of the average and ugly guys would usually be honest about their intentions with hooking up and dating. I get annoyed when people tell me to hook up with someone as ugly as me, if I'm struggling so bad with hookups because they are uninformed how most ugly women these present times know that hot guys would fuck them. They tell me the same about dating but that is dumb too, due to all the ugly chicks these days thinking they are models.
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@PhenomenalQueen I'm going to do a second message since not all of it can fit into one message. Lol. And there are people who say it depends on location when it comes to dating and hookups like you say. One guy from New York City, told me that dating and hookups are not that hard for average and ugly guys over there, whereas here in California it is like a needle in a haystack for average and ugly guys. And he is talking about these days too it is still easy with dating and hookups for average and ugly guys over there. He barely came to Cali a couple of years ago. He said the women over there are just different while women in Cali play too many games, are too picky, etc. with those two categories. It was different in Cali though twenty years ago. People out of Cali assume that just because there are a lot of people here, that it means dating and hookups would be easier. It is the opposite in these present times. That means the women feel they have a ton more options. I don't know why it is different in New York City if there are tons of people there too. I think it is because the number of women in New York City outnumber the number of men. Who knows.
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@PhenomenalQueen where in America are you at?
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I’m in California and I can agree with everything that you said.. I have seen that in NYC people seem to have better luck at dating… I’m not pretty, I guess I’m considered average and that would explain why I don’t get the attention that I feel I deserve.. What I mean by that is, I want to be respected, you know? Not looked at like a piece of meat… Most men who hit on me, I can tell that it’s only for a fuck.. I feel like while I’m average, other areas make up for it. But obviously, reality doesn’t lie.. it makes a lot of sense what you’re saying.. I’ve been called ugly before by lots of guys, but I’ve also been called beautiful, pretty, cute, gorgeous, etc… a number of times as well.. So I’m not too sure where I would stand, but I can humbly say I’m average. Anyways though, yes the girls here in California are VERY stuck on themselves.. I’ve seen many of them dress the same, talk the same, same makeup, same hair colors, etc… Yet they will claim that they’re different from the last girl, and they’re very rude to their bfs. (The ones that I’m talking about) So I find it very unfortunate, that the below average - average people aren’t given the relationship opportunity and given the chance to make someone happy.
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Where are you at?
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@PhenomenalQueen I'm in Southern California. Specifically the city of Buena Park. The city where Knott Berry Farm theme park is at. I'm in the county of Orange. How about yourself?
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Wow small world, lol I’m in Southern California too. I’m in la county. I live close to la mirada.
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@PhenomenalQueen no way. Lol. May I have your Snapchat, Facebook, etc where we can talk more? Somewhere where you are on more. You seem like a super chill person. If you don't want to give it to me, that is fine.
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Can I message you on here for awhile first?
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Yeah that is fine.
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You are referring to private messaging Im assuming. Lol.
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Yes lol, thank you.
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