If both are real places, do you think you're more likely to end up in Heaven or Hell?

[Anonymous]

Heaven

Hell

[wolfcat87]

I actively choose hell. I don't want to spend an eternity singing some psycho's praises and running errands for him while my friends and family suffer somewhere else or living in some delusion of paradise.

Especially when I'd be in the awful company of a bunch of killers, abusers, racists, genocidal maniacs, and rapists who at least believed in god and repented so they got in. Fuuuudge that! It's always sounded like the real hell to me. Put me in eternal darkness or nothingness or sentence me to earth as punishment.

Even half the angels said hard pass and picked earth over "heaven". That should tell you everything you need to know about how much it sucks. People who were already there CHOSE to LEAVE. They said anywhere else was better than another moment there.

[wolfcat87]

Also, the irony is that good people don't make it to heaven no matter how good they are according to the bible unless they agree to be submissive slaves. Even the most submissive slaves were turned on and tortured... So, all the best people won't be there. The people who would not kill or maim children and won't follow orders just because they are told to in order to save their own hides.

[BCRanger10]

Don't you think that's a bit bleak?

[wolfcat87]

@BCRanger10 I think it's realistic instead of delusional based on what the Bible actually says happened. It's bizarre to me that people ignore those facts just hoping that if they ignore them things will turn out well for them somehow. Making most of them essentially non believers in their own faith when they have to ignore what it actually says to pretend to believe in it... Too weird and too much cognitive dissonance. Based on the Bible word for word, I want to be a far away from that god as possible. They are obviously pure evil. Even Jesus said kill anyone who doesn't bow down to me. Hard pass.

Personally, I think the universe just recycles us.

[BCRanger10]

I'll start with the last point first. When, where, how, and to whom did Jesus say that?

[wolfcat87]

@BCRanger10 In the gospel of Luke to his followers.

[BCRanger10]

Okay. What did He say?

[msmissydc]

Depends, I would say heaven if its not church that makes the rules e. G. Morality and humanity. If its like the rules church sees fit than probably hell. The thing is, if church has the real rules, than I am pretty sure hell is not that bad and heaven is kinda weird and boring.

[TheSpaceGnome]

They aren't real.

Souls also aren't real.

When you die, you cease to exist mentally, which is objectively worse than eternal reward or punishment, so people refuse to accept it, and make up nonsense about afterlife realms and souls.

But the proof exists, you need a body to feel or think, and it stays here when you're dead, and while alive, if damaged, it can stop being able to do those things at all or partially, meaning the body is needed for those.

Also basic principles in 3D space prove parallel realms aren't possible.

[normalice]

I think if they exist they are the same place and the difference is perspective and status, which is determined by the ruler of that domain and none of know anything, at all, about that entity - despite the wars fought and torture inflicted over our guesses.

[normalice]

*none of us know anything...

[normalice]

By the way, I wrote a story that illustrates this very idea, linked in my profile. I did no editing so I need to rewrite it, but at least it is whole.

[Phoenix98]

I've had a lot of spiritual experiences in my life so yes I believe in both how could I not after experiencing the following.

I've woken up shaky in pools of sweat right as people have died perfect timing every time down to the second.

I've felt individuals die, the life leaving their body, organs shutting down all of it

And I've felt only what I could describe/guess was Azrael or a demon of terrible power. Either way it was the most horrifying and scariest experience of my life.

I've had experiences with Demons

I've had experiences with God

I've seen Heaven for a moment

But thankfully I have never seen hell and I hope never to see it. I know a lot of people joke about going there treating it as a game. But if those people had any idea of what awaits them there they wouldn't be so enthusiastic and joking about it. It's honestly pretty heartbreaking.

[TheSpaceGnome]

Dreams/hallucinations or lies.

[Phoenix98]

@TheSpaceGnome None of the above but you are free to have your opinion regardless of whether it's right or wrong.

[TheSpaceGnome]

No I'm actually stating that those were in fact dreams/hallucinations, or that you're a liar, because evidence proves that it's actually impossible for any other option to be the case. Souls do not exist, nor do other realms, god/s, demons, angels, etc.

[TheSpaceGnome]

So yeah, not my opinion, I'm just calling you out on bs. 🤷🏻

I'd actually prefer that they did exist, but I'm not delusional.

[mooky06]

front row seats to hell, pretty sure the devil himself has had my ticket waiting for me in his pocket

[PrincelyGlove]

@mooky06 What did you do?

[jjj101010]

@mooky06 wow, u must have been really naughty !

[jennifer_bloom]

I believe I can go to either one depending on how I choose to live. There are parts of my life I believe God wants me to fix. There are also things I believe God is glad I'm improving on.

[NamerOfStars]

Hell is afraid I'll take over. Heaven is also afraid I'll take over, but knows they can better distract me, so...

[electromagnetic]

I wanna say I’m a good person but I’ve done some shady shit in my life. If I keep it up, 🔥

[FreyaRed]

I don't know how such a good girl like me is on the highway to hell. 😈

[Sparkie460]

I sure hope I'm going to heaven to be with the rest of my family, especially my son

[jahaims]

If both places are real 99% of people are going to hell

[Anonymous]

I trust that God is loving and just. So I don't concern myself with where I'm going.

[BCRanger10]

I certainly hope for Heaven.

[TrueConfection]

Jesus is my salvation ✝. I'll be in Heaven.

[Anonymous]

hell