Very much real. I have seen and witness both sides of those places. It is not what some would expect because one, heaven is breathtaking, and two, hell is not where anybody really wants to go. People who say they don't, that's okay. Because we're all going to pass away one day. Somebody has to go somewhere. And hell is not the place I want to go to. Enough hell down here and its practically nothing compared to a real hell.
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It's cringy that some liberals trying to sound cool say that they will party and have lots of sex in Hell. And hang with gays and atheists. I guess that iis how some people become satanists. Many celebrities too.
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I believe I will probably going to heaven but I believe there are different degrees of reward in heaven and different types of worship in heaven so I still have to work on being a good person - and if I don't work on myself - I might not end up there at all.
I don't believe it. Suppose there is a God who created heaven and hell. Why is he testing us? Shouldn't he be all knowing anyways? Even if God wasn't testing us, then why do we live for about 80 years on Earth then spend eternity in another dimension? Seems like a waste of time spent on Earth if you ask me because that just makes things pointless here.
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He has given us this life to see where we deserve to go. We all have FREE WILL.
I follow a different way, and there is no Hell, or damnation, or punishment!! How sad is a 'belief' system that has something that is eternal pain and punishment? I was raised with Christianity, and God was about LOVE, and Forgiveness!! Why are so many, here asking about Hell, unless they are Evil, at heart, and fearing that belief?
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Are you saying Satan is not real? If Hell doesn't exist then why are ther commandments?
The commandments were written words, to tell people how to act, and have integrity, in a time of sin, and idol worship. Just because there were Commandments given, does not lead to the need for Hell and damnation! That was something some angry men made up, to try to control the people who could not read, and understand the Word, themselves!!
I believe there is a creative will that created the universe and all that is in it. So far I have not come across any other rational explanation of how such a universe and its properties have come to existence. There are really no satisfactory models for the inception of the universe. And at best it's all conjecture and guess work. The idea that there is a creative force out there which has the properties of being eternal and omnipotent... is really the simplest and most acceptable model for the inception of our universe. Not only did it suffice for those people who lived 10,000 years ago... but it still suffices for us even till today. At its core the rational behind such an explanation can't be disputed.
So now the question is... if such a creative force was able to create the universe... what really stops it from creating other dimensions/destinations such as Heaven and Hell? I mean is there really any logic in me as a finite being doubting the creative capacity of an infinitely creative being? Can't such a creative being create Heaven and Hell if He wanted to? there really is no logic in doubting such an outcome...
In my opinion.. people who doubt the existence of Heaven and Hell really do so for specific motives. Either they don't want to acknowledge that there is a Creator and they have a moral obligation to follow His will... and therefore they dismiss Him and the idea that there will be any consequences... OR... they simply want to enjoy their life as much as they can by following their whims and desires and they don't want to face any consequences for such actions... so they pursue these desires in the false hope that when they die that's it.. it's the end... there is no more...
But for people who are truly morally driven they cannot accept that we can do as we want and just get away with it... this is why concepts of Heaven and Hell are so integral to the essence of true moral thought. End of the day True Justice has to prevail. However, this is more than just petty arguments of who is going to Heaven vs who is going to Hell. We should all want the best for each other. But the point is simple... what good is something if it doesn't serve the purpose for which it was created? This is really the essence of the argument... something that does not serve its function or purpose is going to be displeasing to the creator... this displeasure has consequences for the creation.
I voted A, yes, but I believe that they are yet to be created. Furthermore: The idea of a Hell whereby beings are endlessly tortured, is so monstrous and unpalatable, skeptics use it to justify unbelief and reject Christianity. Therefore I have a radical, sensible, alternative. As a Christian I completely reject that absolutely repugnant concept of infinite punishment, yet also thoroughly reject the concept of universal salvation.
Concepts of Hell pervading ancient mythology suggests that this concept is common sense, rather than being fictitious. Rejecting the idea of hell altogether disregards justice, having people sinning limitlessly without ever facing God. Hell is not only the grave; Christian scripture has two hells. Sometimes the Greek word Hades, denoting the grave or departed state, is translated into the English word hell. Other times the Greek word Gehenna is translated "hell." Gehenna was originally a valley where children were burned alive as sacrifices to the idol Moloch. Since this place was abhorred, it later became a garbage dump for dead bodies, where fires continually burned to quell the ongoing putrefaction.
The wonderful opposite Heaven would be eternal intimacy with God according to Christianity. Perhaps there will be different degrees of Heaven. Consider the following analogy: If God was a star, those who did a splendid job of doing His will throughout their lives might be like an inner planet orbiting the star and receiving its maximum radiance. Those with a passion for God but whose lives were somewhat lacking could be like a planet at an average distance, still receiving a healthy amount of radiance. Those whose lives were seriously disordered and whose loyalties were ambivalent, yet whom God still forgives may be likened to a distant planet that receives minimal radiance but is still within the star's gravitational range. The lost would be like space debris outside the star's gravitational pull; hence they float away into outer darkness. This is just a sample of my writing on this subject from Chapter IX (9) on my website: www.thezap.net
No, I don’t believe in either heaven or hell because the logic and evidence for both is poor at best. The idea of an eternal damnation for the world’s wrongdoers is hard for anyone of this world to wrap their heads around, which obviously includes me. As much as I despise and hate certain individuals on this planet, I’m hesitant to damn them to ETERNAL hell. NO ONE can comprehend the idea of ANYTHING being ETERNAL; it’s just a foreign idea beyond humans’ comprehension. I don’t want to live with a being/god watching my every move, like being under a magnifying glass. I don’t even know if this being/god is good or what his/her intentions are. The idea of heaven and hell seem to have been created by humans which is partially why the evidence for such things is nonexistent.
Lol you not that dumb look when someone doesn't study properly and on the day of the exam they blank out and hate themselves for not knowing the truth? That's what many non-believers will shit their pants when God breaks open the universe of heaven and hell with over 60,000 angels watching. God is great, God is real, God is the magnificent, he is the creator of the earth, the universe and the heavens. Do people honestly think you can commit adultery, murder, and the oppression of others (what the West does to kids in 3rd world countries)
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Do people honestly think you can commit adultery, murder, and the oppression of others (what the West does to kids in 3rd world countries) and get away with it, even if the police or judicial system doesn't catch you? God will punish those on the day of judgment, mark my words. I'll put every mother fucking dollar I make in this world on the line if I am wrong about this and this goes to the stupid GaGGer's who are self-absorbed and ignorant about this world or the hereafter.
"Do people honestly think you can commit adultery, murder, and the oppression of others (what the West does to kids in 3rd world countries) and get away with it, even if the police or judicial system doesn't catch you?" THIS!
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There is Heaven and Hell. This one Man took sick one time he was living a wild life and he died , well the paramedics brought him back to life and he was sent to Hell and he told his story of all the screeches, cries , screaming , he smelled burning he went to these huge thick black Gates and they were the Gates to Hell. This one Christian Woman told me no one lives to see what Heaven looks like you must go through the Son Jesus to get to God to see what Heaven looks like. But i believe there is in between called Purgatory where you are stuck roaming the Earth and you must walk into the Light to go to Heaven.
I will tell you a story about my mother and her grandfather you see recently my grandfather passed away. My mother had a dream of my grandfather they talked and stuff and at one point he looked at his clothing and said "i'm wet" there was a small splash of water on his top. Later on my mum phoned my aunt who visited my grandfathers grave and she asked him did you put water on his grave? She said no and went to ask my uncle (her husband) and he said yes "We bought some flowers and in the bag it had water to keep the petals fresh I laid the flowers down sprinkled the flowers and his grave with a little bit of water." Never seen my mother so happy. The dead are still watching over you in the afterlife may not be heaven or hell but is somewhere there is a somewhere "Energy can neither be created nor destroyed only transferred"
Yes and no. I believe Heaven is real, but I do not believe most everyone is going. I believe only a select few are going, but the rest of us will remain on Earth with the coming of Christ as that's what it says in Revelations. Of course, most 'Christians' these days do not think that because they go to the church to be lectured, but they do not read the Bible themselves to really understand it.
I also believe in Hell, but in the Bible, it's referred to as a deep sleep multiple times. The 'eternal fire' that's referred to is once the Devil is cast out with his fallen angels and Christ has returned because that signifies Satan is no longer the ruler of all things. Currently, if we were to die today, no one's soul would be burning. You'd be in a deep slumber.
Heaven is considered spending eternity with God and hell is spending eternity in separation from God. So, if God doesn't exist then we all, technically, go to hell. I don't believe in the man made thought of heaven being the pearly gates in the clouds and hell being an existence of fiery torment.
Pain is subjective. Regardless if it's physical, emotional or cognitive pain. Knowing you're separated from God for eternity could be the most painful thing in the universe.
If they are real, I'm not going to either. I cannot fathom either being a reality of any sort. Pretty sure neither exists as I don't believe in the "God" or the "Devil". They're both giant kids with no idea of how to run anything. Something so powerful yet, it cannot bend its own rules and preserve the life of what is near and dear to it. Heaven doesn't sound that great and hell sounds like parts of 🌎
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It's not up to you where to go. God will send you to where you deserve
I don't deserve anything. I'm a neutral entity. And I don't think it's right to only believe in 1 God nor do I think an afterlife of such a "reputation" should or does exist.
Regarding this issue, I'm like most -I'd love it if heaven were real. However, through life experiences, I'm not convinced in an afterlife.
I feel all religion springs from human ideation and has become widely accepted for various reasons. That stated, the saddest day of my life was when I critically evaluated my religious belief and found it to be a faulty house of cards.
I can't say I'm better for my 'new' understanding and feel ignorance, to some, can be bliss. Who wants to suffer, die and simply rot in a air-tight box when all's said and done?
I believe they're real, but I don't think we have a firm concept of what they really are deep down. Sort of like we know about other galaxies outside of ours, but we don't REALLY have a firm grasp of what this is in reality. Or how we know about blackholes, but don't really know what that something/nothing is. We have theories.
I don't believe in heaven and hell but I do know one thing. That the heavens refers to the sky or what is beyond our Earth. I know now that I am a complex form of living thing that lives on borrowed energy which was here before I existed, and will continue to be there when I am dead. When I die I will rot and be Inccooperated into the body of other living organisms like plants, worms etc but every thing about me will continue to transform. As for my consciousness, I do not know about that.
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Yes, real. Hell isn't a place bad people are in forever their bodies will be burned and will cease to exist forever. Heaven is a place good people will go when the rapture happens, but until then we sleep as Jesus/God says in the Holy King James Version Bible. After the sleep the dead shal rise from the grave, then the living... "us" ;) where we will remain for 1000 years then we will go to the new earth.
Revelation 20:15 - And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Matthew 13:50 ----And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Revelation 20:14 - And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. Matthew 10:28 ----And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
-Once the body and soul is destroyed, there is no more suffering.
here's the kicker though...
Revelation 20:7-10
7And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. 9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. 10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
That's saying everyone will be brought back to life. All the bad guys included, Adolf Hitler, your evil next door neighbor. Then they will burn.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
-The dead were the ones that didn't make it into heaven for the 1 thousand years. The ones that the Catholic church tells people that go to hell forever when you die.
Interesting. So you're saying that those who have not received Christ will go to hell, but they will eventually burn up and cease to exist? But Satan will be thrown into the lake of fire in Hell and stay there forever?
@Jamie05rhs Yes, but the people who didn't go to heaven for the 1st thousand years will be brought back to life and get a second chance, whether they take that second chance or not, that's another story.
Nobody can no for sure, but i dont believe there is a god at all. Anything can be explained with science so therefore i dont believe there's some person out here making miracles. Therefore since i believe there is no god i also believe there is no heaven or hell. We rot in the ground in my personal opinion.
Simple answer without trying to step on too many toes. Yes they are real. I have seen karma work too often to bet against it. So treat everyone how you wish to be treated and make the world a better place.
My own church teaches that "Heaven" and "Hell" are states of existence/experience. They are the same "place", but it is how we experience the situation that matters. It is a condition where all truths are stripped naked, and we cannot even lie to ourselves.
I can't say with 100% certainty both are real but according to my walks during life, I'm 99.95% sure Heaven exists and 96% sure Hell exists based on the encounters and visions I've had of the 2 red horses during an accident I had and a dream I had while my dream states were blurred.
don't distract from the question. if you can be "sure" heaven and hell are real without proof, then why can i not be "sure" that it doesn't exist without proof.
i can simply reject the fact that heaven and hell exist, cause they are clearly fiction. if i accepted them to be real, i would have to assume every fiction "might" be real and since that's obviously untrue, i can legitimately reject the claim of them existing untill you provide demonstrable evidence that shows it's not fiction. but since you claim to have that, go ahead. show me your proof.
I canb't show you what I hvae seen. And I clearly said it's up to you to believe or not. Do you think God is not real? Or you just don't believe in Heaven aand Hell?
by the way, if there's something that only you specifically could see and never show to anybody or demonstrate it, that's what we call "delusion" or "imagination".
It won't let me reply again in the comment but I was just going to say ok. Do you believe in dream time. Where dreams are us leaving our bodies and visiting places and talking to other people who are in dream time too?
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