This take is great man. #1 is sooooo true, women have no idea what the hell theyre talking about when they give advice about other women cuz they themself have no idea what they want. Every girls life is a movie starring them, directed by them, edited by them so how can they really give advice about another girls movie. 4 is true no matter how many girls say they don’t want a player. Would u trust the food in a restaurant that was always packed or empty all the time?
That's the thing that is amazing. When I found this out, it was so simple, I could not understand why I did not think of it before. Men and women are totally different here. A man would not want a woman who is dating a lot of other men. Maybe we might want a woman who is desired by other men, but not actively dating. Women want men who actually courting other women. And when he chooses them, then they feel so special that he choose them out of a sea of eligible women.
Women want the guy that other women want. Well, at least initially. After you get to know each other, then she can start to appreciate your special uniqueness.
Then of course, the one in a million girl, doesn't need this whole ritual. She can see right through to the type of man she wants.
I mean I hope he's had a few attempts at dating, enough to know what he wants from a relationship, but too many will make me feel like he's a player. And definitely not more than one girl at a time, that will make him seem unfaithful.
I definitely agree with no. 1 and that's what got me interested to read this take because it was so true and a pretty difficult one to discover. I do admit that a lot of people are shallow when it comes to dating, women included. But even shallow women would kind of feel uncomfortable with no. 4. It's too much competition. Some other girls posted the same thing on this take too. In another light, if a guy has lots of girls it could also mean that he probably knows very well what girls want, or he has great social skills. Either way it would mean he will be very likely to get any girl he wants, because he is very good at it, which would naturally make it difficult to avoid being friends with him. And I do admit many a time I've been attracted to those kinds of guys, which made me really annoyed with myself, because in my head I knew it would only end in heartbreak. But I managed to steer clear of them and married the exact opposite type of guy.
I AM possessive and I don't want other women drooling over my guy all the time. It just increses the risk of betrayal in a weak moment of our relationship.
And that's the thing. Women are attracted to charming guys. That's why those guys are considered to be "charming". Most of these guys who are complaining never took time to realize that simple fact. They fall into this rut of trying to be nice and trying to please. But they don't realize that these women want a guy who is wanted by other women. It makes no sense to get the guy that no one else is talking to, dating, or recognizing. Even I am shallow when it comes to this. I like having a woman on my arm that I am "proud" of.
And that's what these guys have to learn. They need to become "worthy" of female attention. You seem to know a bit about the friendzone from a female perspective. I think we understand each other.
From a guy's perspective, these guys get attracted to a beautiful woman, and make her the center of their world. But they already know things will end badly, that's why they think so negatively and send out that negative vibe.
Hey guys do the same thing. I am just talking specifically about the guys who claim they have no luck in the dating scene.
They have the opportunity to date. And if they dated more often, they would start attracting the type of women they want. But not everyone has the same tastes. This is all about doing what it takes to find happiness. This goes both ways. Most of us are insecure and lack confidence. We cannot let it stop us from being happy.
But while the visual is charming, the caption is what really makes an impact. In it, she recalls being sent a direct message wondering how Jenna could land a guy as beautiful as Drew. She went on to reveal, “Part of my insecurity with my body has stemmed from being married to Mr. Six-Pack himself. Why should I, a curvy girl, get him? I feel unworthy, and when I write narratives in my head that because I am not thin, I don’t deserve him.”
If women are only attracted to men who attract lots of women, what incentive does a man like that have to pass up all but one of his opportunities? He could do threesomes and shit lol. If a woman's #1 priority is a longterm partner, they're digging their own graves by letting other women choose their men for them.
Women are women dude. No one claims they are logical. If they were, we wouldn't need to create forums dedicated to figuring out how to date. It would simply be a logical calculus to get one to like you.
If it helps, I don't get it either. I just know what works.
You're spot on, too many men feel sorry for themselves and do nothing to change their situation. I think most men have been in a similar situation where they're frustrated with women. Most successful men aren't successful on accident.
i think this is super solid all the way around, great take
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Haha 😂 @number1!!! Hilarious 😂!!! And number 4! 🤨!!! Date women you don’t even like? To attract the one you DO like? Wtf? How sad!!! Now I’ll be more skeptical about accepting any guy at all just as to avoid being one of those baits they wanna date to get the “real”girl they want... bleh! 👀 🤨!!! ill just reject more guys now. Thanks! Lol 😂
I agree with everything but 7 we all know that ugly dude in the photo with the babe is rich. Good take most male takes on GAG tend to bow down to the drown of gynocracy but this surprised me.
Why does it matter if he is rich? Was he born rich? Or did he work on himself, educate himself, become a leader, a speaker, and someone with a compelling story to tell.
Do you think she would have fell in love with a rich guy who stayed at home in the bed, whining about how he couldn't get a woman?
Of course it matters. And it also matters the attitude and image you project. The thing is, only you can change your world. It is easy to pretend you don't have the power. That way you can keep blaming external forces.
We are men, we like this whole pity party thing. Self-hatred is an easy thing for men. It comes naturally. Because in order to find happiness, you would have to have hope. And having your hopes dashed hurts very badly.
I studied with a Buddhist for a time. He made it plain to me, that I had to live life as hard and as fully as I could. Through both the good and bad.
Years from now, you will understand. That you only wasted precious time, while you could have in happiness and in love.
There is a anime series called "Darkstalkers". In it there is a character like you. His name is Donovan. Have you ever seen it before?
Na I've only watched dragonball and sailor moon when I was younger. But I'm serious I went to gym , picked up that pua scam played a lot of money. And no results came.
Well, yeah, that's a scam. Do you know how many men I had to counsel who were scammed?
But anyway Donovan, in one scene is torturing himself, because of the impurity he sees within himself. His master enters his chamber and asks, "Young one why do you torture yourself? Do you not see the good heart within you?"
Donovan answers, "I cannot possibly be good".
The Master says something like, "You have been with us for a long time. Had you been evil, I would have known. Your heart is a good heart. Can you not come to love it?"
It is a simple question that you have to answer for yourself.
The thing is, 20 years from now, you will think much differently about this time in your life. You will look back and know you were just being silly.
So. . . why not take some advice from your future self. And do what you have to do to be happy?
No, you have simply given up. You want people to agree that you have exhausted all avenues.
Of course you haven't.
I have counseled so many men like you. Some woke up and start making positive changes.
Others wallowed in despair. And guess what. The world did not change one single bit. You have to choose to win, in order to win. The world simply doesn't care.
So did Robert Hoge change his looks? I don't understand anything you are saying as an excuse. You have given up. Not because you can't win. It is because it is easier. You don't want to admit that simple truth. So you have told yourself this lie. You can't find love because that isn't an option.
It is an easy lie to believe.
“Your mind will believe comforting lies while also knowing the painful truths that make those lies necessary. And your mind will punish you for believing both.” ― Patrick Ness, A Monster Calls
I believe you have misunderstood my point. The point is i can't find what doesn't exist. Romantic love does not exist. I can do 100 more approaches and the outcome will be the same. Did I tell you I've approach over 100 women?
Yawn. . . yeah now it doesn't exist. Well whatever that is that doesn't exist that you are trying to get. . . you can get. You just have to work for it.
I read it was a good one. But I stated a fact and you brushed over it. Love has never existed bro that's just how it is. Once you realise that you will finally be at peace. but we can move on it's fine.
I'm not asking for pity. I am asking you to see the truth for what it is. Leave me out of the equation pretend I don't exist. Look at the facts that I just said. Then you'll be free.
See, the truth? Dude, I don't know you from Wilma Flintstone. And what is already established is that you don't want to be known. You want to come to anonymously internet pages and wallow in despair hoping for pity.
I don't do pity.
Not for man whom is perfectly capable of changing his fate.
I will save my pity for the refugees of Syria. Or the villagers of the Congo.
I mean actually being friends. Anytime i try to make a female friend they always get weird and awkward. Girls take my kindness for flirting and thats what makes them shy.
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This take is great man.
#1 is sooooo true, women have no idea what the hell theyre talking about when they give advice about other women cuz they themself have no idea what they want. Every girls life is a movie starring them, directed by them, edited by them so how can they really give advice about another girls movie.
4 is true no matter how many girls say they don’t want a player. Would u trust the food in a restaurant that was always packed or empty all the time?
That's the thing that is amazing. When I found this out, it was so simple, I could not understand why I did not think of it before. Men and women are totally different here. A man would not want a woman who is dating a lot of other men. Maybe we might want a woman who is desired by other men, but not actively dating. Women want men who actually courting other women. And when he chooses them, then they feel so special that he choose them out of a sea of eligible women.
Women want the guy that other women want. Well, at least initially. After you get to know each other, then she can start to appreciate your special uniqueness.
Then of course, the one in a million girl, doesn't need this whole ritual. She can see right through to the type of man she wants.
I don't agree with no. 4. But the rest was great. I will even take some of it as advice for growing my circle of friends.
Most women would disagree with 1 or 4. I won't argue because most women wouldn't not admit to being shallow.
I mean I hope he's had a few attempts at dating, enough to know what he wants from a relationship, but too many will make me feel like he's a player. And definitely not more than one girl at a time, that will make him seem unfaithful.
I just don't see this as something most women are concerned about.
Maybe you are the exception?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEuCa01iKZg
I definitely agree with no. 1 and that's what got me interested to read this take because it was so true and a pretty difficult one to discover.
I do admit that a lot of people are shallow when it comes to dating, women included. But even shallow women would kind of feel uncomfortable with no. 4. It's too much competition. Some other girls posted the same thing on this take too.
In another light, if a guy has lots of girls it could also mean that he probably knows very well what girls want, or he has great social skills. Either way it would mean he will be very likely to get any girl he wants, because he is very good at it, which would naturally make it difficult to avoid being friends with him.
And I do admit many a time I've been attracted to those kinds of guys, which made me really annoyed with myself, because in my head I knew it would only end in heartbreak. But I managed to steer clear of them and married the exact opposite type of guy.
I AM possessive and I don't want other women drooling over my guy all the time. It just increses the risk of betrayal in a weak moment of our relationship.
And that's the thing. Women are attracted to charming guys. That's why those guys are considered to be "charming". Most of these guys who are complaining never took time to realize that simple fact. They fall into this rut of trying to be nice and trying to please. But they don't realize that these women want a guy who is wanted by other women. It makes no sense to get the guy that no one else is talking to, dating, or recognizing. Even I am shallow when it comes to this. I like having a woman on my arm that I am "proud" of.
And that's what these guys have to learn. They need to become "worthy" of female attention. You seem to know a bit about the friendzone from a female perspective. I think we understand each other.
From a guy's perspective, these guys get attracted to a beautiful woman, and make her the center of their world. But they already know things will end badly, that's why they think so negatively and send out that negative vibe.
Oh, after you are with the guy sure. Every woman is possessive then.
Women are actually nice to guys by friendzoning them. You should see what they do to girls when they dislike them, total boycott.
Hey guys do the same thing. I am just talking specifically about the guys who claim they have no luck in the dating scene.
They have the opportunity to date. And if they dated more often, they would start attracting the type of women they want. But not everyone has the same tastes. This is all about doing what it takes to find happiness. This goes both ways. Most of us are insecure and lack confidence. We cannot let it stop us from being happy.
Jenna Kutcher's husband looks pretty happy to me.
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But while the visual is charming, the caption is what really makes an impact. In it, she recalls being sent a direct message wondering how Jenna could land a guy as beautiful as Drew. She went on to reveal, “Part of my insecurity with my body has stemmed from being married to Mr. Six-Pack himself. Why should I, a curvy girl, get him? I feel unworthy, and when I write narratives in my head that because I am not thin, I don’t deserve him.”
Women are actually nice to guys by friendzoning them. You should see what they do to girls when they dislike them, total boycott.
No they are not.
All good advice, and a lot of this is frequently overlooked, especially #8.
This would make a lot of difference to some of the guys on here if they would but listen, and apply it.
If women are only attracted to men who attract lots of women, what incentive does a man like that have to pass up all but one of his opportunities? He could do threesomes and shit lol. If a woman's #1 priority is a longterm partner, they're digging their own graves by letting other women choose their men for them.
Women are women dude. No one claims they are logical. If they were, we wouldn't need to create forums dedicated to figuring out how to date. It would simply be a logical calculus to get one to like you.
If it helps, I don't get it either. I just know what works.
Even if a guy gets friendzoned the best next thing to do would be to move on. Good take
I think you need to treat her with respect and disrespect at the same time? But ehat do I know. I am here for xper
Haha!
You're spot on, too many men feel sorry for themselves and do nothing to change their situation. I think most men have been in a similar situation where they're frustrated with women. Most successful men aren't successful on accident.
This is great, good stuff its very positive and good for everyone.
i think this is super solid all the way around, great take
Haha 😂 @number1!!! Hilarious 😂!!!
And number 4! 🤨!!! Date women you don’t even like? To attract the one you DO like? Wtf? How sad!!! Now I’ll be more skeptical about accepting any guy at all just as to avoid being one of those baits they wanna date to get the “real”girl they want... bleh! 👀 🤨!!! ill just reject more guys now. Thanks! Lol 😂
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Thanks for the downnvote and for then-gorgeous Christian awkward stare! 😍!😁!!!
women are sexually attracted to their friends so friend zone doesn't exist
Haha! Now that is hilarious!
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It's insulting as hell ! I've walked away from hot women who said this tripe !
Thanks.
Dissed and dismissed for me all the time.
Too much indirectness and passive aggressive mindgames for me man.
Fabulous! Well done, a lot of truths. I should print this out and give it to people
Now I agree with you on this one... good take and very helpful for guys unsure of themselfs.
Not exactly confidence help, but it seems pretty good.
A surprisingly good list, unusually for its high accuracy and lack of anti-masculinity.
I agree with everything but 7 we all know that ugly dude in the photo with the babe is rich. Good take most male takes on GAG tend to bow down to the drown of gynocracy but this surprised me.
Everyone says that.
Why does it matter if he is rich? Was he born rich? Or did he work on himself, educate himself, become a leader, a speaker, and someone with a compelling story to tell.
Do you think she would have fell in love with a rich guy who stayed at home in the bed, whining about how he couldn't get a woman?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbxinUJcLGg
But the point is that some men are simply too ugly for women me being one of them.
And from one ugly fat guy to another. . .
https://i.imgur.com/YxhCJAR.jpg
Have I ever lied to you? I'm not the average guy. I'm far below it.
Can we talk offline? We are both "brothers", right? We are both nerdy, fat, and have a history of not fitting in.
Do I got that right?
Oh. . . here is the greatest facebook group known to mankind.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/adventuresingeek/
https://twitter.com/PLANETEJOBN
I'm not fat😂. And we arents brothers😂
Okay well, like I said then,
https://i.imgur.com/YxhCJAR.jpg
If I was fat I wouldn't be on this site
Yeah, because people could see your belly, like mine.
That's crazy that you could be fit but claim you are too ugly to find a woman.
Fitness doesn't matter to women just be good looking.
Of course it matters. And it also matters the attitude and image you project. The thing is, only you can change your world. It is easy to pretend you don't have the power. That way you can keep blaming external forces.
I got a question. Do you like Japanese Anime?
Yeah I like those cartoons. I've tried "working on my self" I've done all I could.
Of course you haven't done all you can.
We are men, we like this whole pity party thing. Self-hatred is an easy thing for men. It comes naturally. Because in order to find happiness, you would have to have hope. And having your hopes dashed hurts very badly.
I studied with a Buddhist for a time. He made it plain to me, that I had to live life as hard and as fully as I could. Through both the good and bad.
Years from now, you will understand. That you only wasted precious time, while you could have in happiness and in love.
There is a anime series called "Darkstalkers". In it there is a character like you. His name is Donovan. Have you ever seen it before?
Na I've only watched dragonball and sailor moon when I was younger. But I'm serious I went to gym , picked up that pua scam played a lot of money. And no results came.
Well, yeah, that's a scam. Do you know how many men I had to counsel who were scammed?
But anyway Donovan, in one scene is torturing himself, because of the impurity he sees within himself. His master enters his chamber and asks, "Young one why do you torture yourself? Do you not see the good heart within you?"
Donovan answers, "I cannot possibly be good".
The Master says something like, "You have been with us for a long time. Had you been evil, I would have known. Your heart is a good heart. Can you not come to love it?"
It is a simple question that you have to answer for yourself.
The thing is, 20 years from now, you will think much differently about this time in your life. You will look back and know you were just being silly.
So. . . why not take some advice from your future self. And do what you have to do to be happy?
But im unable to i tried already
No, you have simply given up. You want people to agree that you have exhausted all avenues.
Of course you haven't.
I have counseled so many men like you. Some woke up and start making positive changes.
Others wallowed in despair. And guess what. The world did not change one single bit. You have to choose to win, in order to win. The world simply doesn't care.
But I cannot change my looks. That is something I am born with. The same way a black cannot change he or she's skin colour. You get what I mean?
So did Robert Hoge change his looks? I don't understand anything you are saying as an excuse. You have given up. Not because you can't win. It is because it is easier. You don't want to admit that simple truth. So you have told yourself this lie. You can't find love because that isn't an option.
It is an easy lie to believe.
“Your mind will believe comforting lies while also knowing the painful truths that make those lies necessary. And your mind will punish you for believing both.”
― Patrick Ness, A Monster Calls
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Kq2XmxiSQd0/movieposter.jpg
Romantic love does not exist. Also I'm ugly I'm arguable more ugly than that guy. He's rich so his attractiveness to women is over 9000
Yawn. . now romantic love does not exist. I am almost twice your age. Of course it exists.
If you want it, you will find it. If you don't want it, you won't find it.
It is just that simple.
Don't see it as giving up. See it as I've found the truth
No, you have a found a lie that is more comforting to believe than the truth. I mean what you say isn't even logical. And you know it.
In the entire world, you can't find love.
That doesn't even make sense in an insane asylum. It is just you having a pity party. And I won't pity you.
You don't have love because you refuse to work for it.
That is the one objective verifiable truth.
I believe you have misunderstood my point. The point is i can't find what doesn't exist. Romantic love does not exist. I can do 100 more approaches and the outcome will be the same. Did I tell you I've approach over 100 women?
Yawn. . . yeah now it doesn't exist. Well whatever that is that doesn't exist that you are trying to get. . . you can get. You just have to work for it.
We are talking meaningless word salad now.
My "take" is up above, did you read it?
I read it was a good one. But I stated a fact and you brushed over it. Love has never existed bro that's just how it is. Once you realise that you will finally be at peace. but we can move on it's fine.
Nah, I didn't brush over it. You are only lying to yourself.
You want something. You came here for pity.
I am all out of pity.
You can be happy. If you work for it and you will be.
I'm not asking for pity. I am asking you to see the truth for what it is. Leave me out of the equation pretend I don't exist. Look at the facts that I just said. Then you'll be free.
See, the truth? Dude, I don't know you from Wilma Flintstone. And what is already established is that you don't want to be known. You want to come to anonymously internet pages and wallow in despair hoping for pity.
I don't do pity.
Not for man whom is perfectly capable of changing his fate.
I will save my pity for the refugees of Syria. Or the villagers of the Congo.
Is a blind person capable of seeing?
You the man for # 1, and #5.. But you are right though.. Good take!..
I want to be friendzoned. Girls dont like friendzoning me due to shallow reasons
What do you mean by that? Women just dump you and refuse to talk to you anymore?
I mean actually being friends. Anytime i try to make a female friend they always get weird and awkward. Girls take my kindness for flirting and thats what makes them shy.
Oh, they probably think you are friendzoning them. I don't think you have much of an issue meeting women. You seem to be doing all right.
:D