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Woo! Let's all turn into robots by making us emotionless with chemical substances! Hooray for science!
No all kidding aside, it's not JUST the emotional side, it's also a form of betrayal which is in essense wrong. There is no excuse for being a dick/bitch.
It's only betrayal if we define it that way. If we call swimming morally wrong, then all fish would be sinners. Rather unfair and arbitrary, isn't it?
Sure I guess that if a relationship in which it is normal to have sex with other people, cheating wouldn't even be a thing, it would just be called sex. But most relationships are based on an agreement that you don't have sex with somebody else. And to break such an agreement is morally wrong, no matter how you define it. It's not about the act itself, it's about the breaking of trust and the betrayal that comes with it.
Also, your example is a bit flawed, since fish have no choice in swimming whatsoever, they'd die if they didn't. Cheating is a choice you make. So since it's a choice, it can be judged.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion doesn't mean I will agree. This is such a derp take no offense but your take is not cool. I don't believe it is okay to cheat, period. I legit don't see how you think it is okay, clouded judgment huh? Anyway you must possess no feels.
I assume she is cheating too. Cheating is no different than masturbating, the only difference is that she has someone inside her. I'm not jealous or possessive, so why should that bother me if she does that? Can't you see how I'd be selfish if I felt that way?
How the heck is it cheating if you masterbate? xD Yo! Get out of here that is whack no no no bro you know nothing about cheating then but whatever. hahaha
I didn't say she was masturbating--I fully meant that she was having sex with another person. I simply don't view it as any different. Why is it a big deal? Can't she have sex with whom she pleases? It would be rather possessive of me to place demands on her, no?
If u think its ok, you should get into an OPEN relationship. Cheating is bad because it's a breach of mutual agreement. If it's an open relationship, it's what ur promoting. Cheating in the relationship is dysfunction. Why don't we just live like morals dont exist? Because our psyche and the design of life. Stds allow nature to kill off the weak ones in society but modern medicine allows them to live longer.
In an open relationship, it wouldn't be cheating. I am talking about actual cheating. Actual cheating isn't a big deal.
There are people out there that wouldn't be fulfilled in an open relationship because they need to cheat on others, which makes what you pointed out at the end even more troublesome.
Well I get ur starting to see it as evening out the playing field believing 70 percent of women cheat, but we're given brains like no other animal to control to a degree our destiny. .. U can choose to date certain types and dramatically decrease your risks instead of changing ur fundamentals and becoming undatable/unmmariable yourself. It's better to separate urself from the fallen majority and belong to the non cheating minority in my opinion.
It goes against the initial agreement. When two people are in a relationship they have agreed to be exclusive to eachother so when someone cheats they are breaking the agreement/terms of the relationship. I wouldn't do buisness with someone who goes back on their word and dishonors our agreement so I also wouldn't continue to date someone who cheats. If you are going to cheat I see no reason to even enter a relationship in the first place.
Actually, that really isn't the case. Marital vows where they pledge fidelity are an explicit agreement not to cheat, but there are other vows as well, are there not? "Until death do us apart" being one of them. However, where 50% of marriages end in divorce, it is clear that we as a culture have agreed that marital vows are symbolic and not enforceable. In which case, it's clear that cheating is likewise permissible based upon those same cultural agreements.
Cheating IS a big deal. When cheating happens, It voids the trust of the other. The other person is always going to be wondering, Where is he / she? Are they where they told me they would be? Who is he / she with? What are they doing? What is the next thing they are going to lie to me about? Secrets are never good in straight forward and honest relationships. Me personally, If I choose to share my life with someone, It is largely, because they have been able to withstand the test of time without having the need to go behind my back. Bottom line, If I cannot trust the person I am with for reasons such as cheating, Then it's a deal breaker for me. If you don't have trust, You don't have anything.
First you say cheating isn't anything more than chemical releases in your brain, and that it really isn't a big deal overall. Then you go on to say that if your partner doesn't forgive you, it's basically a failed test of the relationship.
My question is: if it's no big deal and just something to not get so worked up about, why would your partner need to "forgive" you for such a natural occurrence?
It's a problem because they are being irrational about the matter, not because of the emotion. And the reason they need to "forgive" is purely because of cultural conditioning. We can choose to move beyond that childishness and embrace our nature.
Ok, so why are you suggesting the reaction is to not stress it and forgive your partner, otherwise that's how you can tell they're being irrational?
I get open relationships and whatnot, but they don't imply apologizing or "forgiving" each other because it's a consensual thing in the relationship. But you're suggesting something entirely different by saying it's the determining factor in whether or not to can them.
It sounds like you're trying to mix "rules" from an open relationship into a 'normal' relationship where having other partners ISN'T consensual.
I'm saying throw out the antiquated notion of "fidelity." It doesn't exist. The vast majority of men and women cheat. It's our natural behavior. Why be angry at a fish for swimming, or a bird for flying?
I realize that. What I'M saying is why are you suggesting apologies are in order for something you don't consider is wrong to begin with?
It doesn't add up.
A natural reaction because of cultural conditioning. We actually shouldn't have to apologize.
So why are you using it as a basis of whether or not to break up with a girl? lol
To determine her level of selfishness, jealousy, and possessiveness. Why date someone with such poor character?
So just so I'm reading you right, if she DOES accept your apology (for nothing you did wrong, according to your article) then she's a keeper?
And if she flies off the handle, then it's her fault for being too selfish, jealous, and possessive? Do I have it nailed down right?
You're getting there.
Where am I off?
You aren't really, just an imprecise expression.
I'm just going off of what you gave in the article. It's something that is natural and shouldn't be seen as wrong or taboo, but it warrants an apology (which suggest it's wrong).
I'm not sure if you worded it correctly or if you know what it is you believe about this. That, or this was just a stab at being edgy for whatever reason?
No, I was referring to my expression just now, it was imprecise.
Ah, gotcha
This Take was quite depressing to read, it's just the reason why relationships go to shit nowadays. Cheating is NOT okay, you can write a million articles about it. I don't buy it. Your use of the word "selfish" to describe a person who's been cheated on and hurt made me wanna vomit in my mouth. No, just no.
Marital vows where they pledge fidelity are an explicit agreement not to cheat, but there are other vows as well, are there not? "Until death do us apart" being one of them. However, where 50% of marriages end in divorce, it is clear that we as a culture have agreed that marital vows are symbolic and not enforceable. In which case, it's clear that cheating is likewise permissible based upon those same cultural agreements.
72% of men cheat, 70% of women cheat. Overwhelmingly, people approve of cheating because they engage in the behavior. It's like judging people on p*rn or reading romance novels--except everyone is doing the same thing! It's silly, and we should just embrace the activity of multiple sexual partners rather than play this charade.
If we got rid of our childish, vestigial Puritanism and embraced our actual inclinations and nature, we'd all be better off.
Well, if the couple agrees with it ex.(swinging, open relationships, etc .) that's totally different. If you had written a Take with the emphasis of polygamy and it being acceptable in some relationships to be with more than one person then that's COMPLETELY different. However, traditional relationships/marriages are not based around this concept. It's one man for one woman and vice versa. Coming from someone who HAS been cheated on I tell you it's selfish on the part of the cheater. He exposed me to various STDs aside from heartache, thankfully I did not catch anything but that was VERY selfish on his part NOT mine. I did nothing wrong! It didn't help our relationship, it made it worse! This applies to both genders who cheat. Unless cheating is consented or the person would just be honest from the get-go, there probably wouldn't be these issues.
In other words, I'm not AGAINST people who choose to be in a relationship and have multiple partners, if it works for you than ok. However, if the couple didn't come to that agreement, then it's wrong. Watching p*rn and reading sexual novels is not the same man. In fact, I feel it's relatively normal to do that. We all do, but under no means is cheating OKAY when both parties don't agree to it.
Bull shit, cheating means there is no real relationship... there are no good to cheating and cheaters suck big time.
All human relation is about emotions, incl. relationships, cheating break the benefit of a relationship and put you in a words situation then not being in one.
Emotions are fleeting, they change like the wind. If emotions are the only reason a person has for objecting to cheating, it seems like really flimsy ground to stand on. Do you hear how selfish you sound?
Life is about emotions, you are clearly underestimation the importance of emotions.
"selfish" that your emotion talking as well... there are many other reasons for being against cheating, but emotions as a reason alone is enough.
Stopped reading this bs after " Emotions are just chemical releases in the brain. We could design a medicine to make us not care about the feeling of cheating, or to make us feel happy when a kid dies, or anything. We just have to give the body the right chemicals."
Lets torture people and just give everyone medicine to feel indifferent to it, including the torturee.
Lets all just not get into relationships, because it's chemicals that make us want a relationship.
Exactly, I also stopped reading from that point.
This was either written by someone without a conscious, or someone really young who doesn't understands the complexities of relationships. A relationship is built on trust. Nothing makes us more human or vulunuble than placing trust and love in other person. As an adult, we have to treasure that love and trust that people place in us and not abuse it by cheating. If we abuse it, less people choose to trust and love. What a horrible world that would be!
We're there now. Why deny it? Let's embrace it and stop playing a charade. Let's accept our nature and develop a more expansive view of human sexuality.
You are quite clearly a man who is currently cheating (and trying to justify his own actions), or a man who has place his love and trust in another to only have this trust broken. Seek some help and guidance. If you ever need someone to chat to, feel free to message me, I am only happy to listen.
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This should be MHO. It's a perfect anwer.
Also, this guy is probably just trolling. Some people get paid to troll.
the statement to this face expression, is bruh? really?
They don't have MHO for myTakes @Noxifer626 lol i wish this guy was trolling although I doubt he is.
I don't know how this is a promoted take LOL funny-pictures-blog.com/.../MEME-Cute.jpg AND 4.bp.blogspot.com/.../sad-cat.gifmeant
It is a promoted take because it's like a Public Service Announcement. You have to challenge old ideas if you want new and better ones to supplant them. I appreciate that GaG is forward-thinking enough to recognize the validity of my views.
It's only because it's written well, he has nothing of importance to say. @mistninja314
@AshleyMD Oh so that's how it works MAKES sense... I got my 1st 1 promoted last week also ^^
Yeah I guess it's set up that way to avoid bias, but stupid takes like this get through. Congrats on getting yours promoted though!
@AshleyMD LOL @ the stupid takes get through LOLOL
If I really love you, you get one pass, but you will pay in" blood". Otherwise, fool me twice shame on me. I didn't want a repeat offender.
Why so jealous and possessive? It's natural behavior that almost all men and women engage in.
You misunderstand my opinion. Me dumping him isn't over jealously or being possessive. I'm dumping him, because he breached the conditional contract of going out with me twice. He also went behind my back again, even though he knew how much it hurt me the first time I found out.
I would rather never marry than be with someone who couldn't give me all of himself, because I give my entire heart when I love you. You get one more chance, because I believe in over coming obstacles, but I also have to make sure that I am alright.
Take owner, you have no right to say it's natural or to call me such unbecoming terms. I will not debate my view on relationships with you, because you are irrelevant in my life. You take care of your own relationship. God help your partner.
A load of tosh... as usual... carry on making people think it's alright to pick on others and be unloyal to others... as if we don't have enough cheaters in the world... if you cheat then you can't expect synpathy, stay loyal otherwise if you can't commit to anybody or be honest to yourself then don't bother being with someone, it's that simple.
www.washingtonpost.com/.../gIQANGdaBR_story.html
Marital vows where they pledge fidelity are an explicit agreement not to cheat, but there are other vows as well, are there not? "Until death do us apart" being one of them. However, where 50% of marriages end in divorce, it is clear that we as a culture have agreed that marital vows are symbolic and not enforceable. In which case, it's clear that cheating is likewise permissible based upon those same cultural agreements.
i don't care what you try to feed me lol we all go through different things in life and these days it's not easy we go through so much shit, i personally a lot of crap with everybody, so if someone cheated on me... sorry... but i explained everything i've gone through and then you go and cheat? HAA! not an idiot lol.
72% of men cheat, 70% of women cheat. Overwhelmingly, people approve of cheating because they engage in the behavior. It's like judging people on p*rn or reading romance novels--except everyone is doing the same thing! It's silly, and we should just embrace the activity of multiple sexual partners rather than play this sill charade.
Cheaters are douchebags, and this was a lame attempt to justify cheating. You should be ashamed of yourself.
www.washingtonpost.com/.../gIQANGdaBR_story.html
70% of women cheat, 72% of men. It's as natural as masturbation. Why deny it? Why condemn it? Why not embrace our natural sexuality?
I find this extremely sad. I don't think cheating is ok... but apparently its gonna be harder to find a loyal, loving partner than i thought 😪😰
@Take Owner
You do realize that this article could be fictional and inaccurate, right? Where exactly did Washington Post get this data? Did they truly get the correct results? Did people lie in the results?
Cheating is and will always be horrible. Only scum cheat. No matter what you say to try to convince me otherwise. Only horrible people cheat. And horrible people don't deserve relationships in the first place.
I won't even dignify this nonsense with a detailed response. You are simply wrong.
In which case, I too will be short. Read the other comments.
"I assume she's cheating on me too, since so many people do it. I have no problem with her having sex with other people. It's just like masturbation, except it's happening inside her."
This is called an open relationship. The two of you are aware that you are having sex with other people and are okay with it. Nothing wrong with that, but that is not cheating. Cheating is when you violate the agreement with your partner to be monogamous.
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nuff zed
"cheating can be a great test of a relationship."
and the test is always a [FAIL]
"If you don't cheat your only cheating yourself" I'm not usually a grammar nazi since I screw up all the time but if you're gonna make a meme at least use the right damn words. "You'RE", not "your," dingus.
Also if you keep having to tell yourself there's nothing wrong with cheating then it probably means there's something wrong with it otherwise why would you have to keep saying it...