Alpha males are the ones you fuck, beta males are the ones you marry. This true ladies?

[Toad-1]

Just something I saw on a message board.

agree or disagree ladies?

I agree

I disagree

It depends (please explain)

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[thatsjustdandy]

I hate alpha males in general. I am friends with a lot of "alpha" males and I love them to death, but no. I am not attracted to chivalry and manliness at all really, and I hate being dominated and/or being touched in general, so I can't even imagine marrying or fucking someone like that.

(note: To categorize men like that is stereotyping, and honestly, men are so diverse that I don't think trying to label them is a good idea. Let them label themselves.)

I'd fuck AND marry the hell out of "beta" guys. I'm not really into anything kinky, but I like taking care of a sweet guy and generally being the "leader" of a relationship, if that makes any sense. Like being financially supportive or something small like being the big spoon, stuff like that.

I guess it's unconventional, but hey. It's 2015. Deal with it.

[Anonymous]

You should take note of the push back you're getting regarding Alpha/Beta terminology, so you're best advised to drop it.

What I have personally experienced though, is that men with the highest sex drives are most likely to be commitment avoidant, and men who are looking for commitment tend to be less interested in sex.

My ideal would be a guy who wants a commmitted LTR but wants to f*** AT LEAST once a day. It seems that this kind of guy is a unicorn though, as men with high sex drives are all about "variety" and moving on to the next woman, whereas guys looking for commitment tend to only want sex once a week. It is seriously frustrating to be a woman with a high sex drive, but who doesn't want to sleep with loads of different people!

[Toad-1]

I am that unicorn lol 🦄🦄🦄

[Prettygurl12]

Alpha males are the one you shoot in the head for being dense and idiotic thinking that they're cool because they use animalistic terms to describe themselves.

[TripleAce]

Sounds like those ones really get you going, huh

[Ferretman21]

Seriously. Self proclaimed ''Alpha males'' almost always tend to be insecure on the inside, and over compensate on the outside.

The whole term in general is used by people... lacking IQ.

[Tanuron]

@Ferretman21 Too true. I always refer to them as babies, cause thats kinda how they behave. Which ironically is as far from the concept of an alpha as you can't get, but naturally that is why they use these terms. To feel better about themselves.

[ZombieCommie]

I wouldn't fuck or marry anyone who uses the terms.

[ZombieCommie]

Thanks for mh :)

[Mr_Pooter]

But that doesn't really answer the question?

[Cyhhgg]

@Mr_Pooter Ummm

Actually she did. Lol You just didn't like the fact that she refuses to see the world with your limited world view.

[Bandit74]

I wouldn't say alpha/beta

I'd say there's 4 types of guys

1. short-term guys... guys who are really attractive, fun, exciting, but not reliable for a long-term commitment. These are the guys who they will sleep with on the first date or agree to be fwbs with.

2. long-term guys... There's guys are still attractive but generally not as attractive as the guys they hooked up with. They are often more intelligent, and reliable to so these are the guys they will go to when they are looking to settle down. They generally won't sleep with these guys right away like they did for the short term guys.

3. Friend... gutls like them as a person but could never become intimate with them

4. Worthless... The's are guys who are unattractive with mediocre personalities. Girls want nothing to do with them.

[Flex4Ever]

I might misunderstand something here, is this how you categorize males or how you think females categorizes males?

[Bandit74]

@Flex4Ever
how I think girls categorize guys

[BlueCoyote]

I refuse to be shoved into some stupid category. I'm not a pair of socks that you put into a drawer. And no, you're system isn't even helpful. It's childish and immature because it divides the world into black and white. That's like a nerd saying "everyone either likes Star Wars or Star Trek. Sure, there might be exceptions but still, generally speaking, you have to choose between being a Star-Wars-fan or a Star-Trek-fan". No you don't. There are billions of people who don't give a damn about any of the two. And in the same way, the large majority of men can't be stuck into some stupid black-and-white classification.

[OlderAndWiser]

Alpha male is a concept invented by males with weak egos who need to see themselves as dominating. If you try to challenge them on the validity of this concept, they get very defensive.

[kaylaS91]

If any guy refers to himself as an alpha, I know he's right at the bottom. Let's call him an omega.
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[RedThread]

Awww that fox is so cute.

[kaylaS91]

@RedThread
I know right? pretty accurate too. :P

[apexalpha]

I thought alphas were wolves?

[ConsultantIsBack]

What if his definition is different than yours? Do you assume everyone believes things the same as you?

[kaylaS91]

@apexalpha well alpha is merely part of the hierarchy which wolves and I'm sure other related creatures use to appoint their 'leading dog'. Foxes are not pack animals hence don't but this fox can still make a point!

[Tanuron]

Im glad so many girls seem to have figured this out. Props to you all.

[ConsultantIsBack]

Those words mean various things to different people, which creates disagreement.

But to me:

Alpha=attractive, intelligent, leaders
Beta=unattractive, homely, gawky

Alpha > Beta

Someone that is "alpha" or attractive/intelligent/refined, et al. has preferential treatment in life. In dating, in job interviews, etc.

[apexalpha]

This^^^

[OrdinaryGentleman]

I don't necessarily believe in "alphas". The term alpha has been so misconstrued beyond belief that anyone who identifies as one is unfortunately labeled, woman beater, disrespectful, arrogant. I have met plenty of men who considered themselves alpha, and frankly they were fucking weak. Perhaps its the fact i am a big guy but anytime there is a guy who identifies as one i feel the need to tear him down, which often is the case.

What i do believe in is "doer's" people who get shit done. Not some ridiculous alpha beta omega shit. We are not wolf packs and half of us are not greek there is no reason this term should be thrown around degrading other. This is one of the reasons why the human race is so pathetic, they feel the need to degrade one another all the while walking to an inevitable demise. So if i was to be labeled any stupid rank it would be omega, they enjoy saying fuck you to everyone else.

[RedThread]

Nah ladies marry women who don't identify themselves by alpha or beta. They go for the good guys who are not pushovers or aggressive assholes.

[LovelyDisquiet]

Yep. Middle/balanced men with healthy levels of emotion in both ways are my favorite! ;)

[RedThread]

Men* not women whoops!

[RedThread]

@LovelyDisquiet thanks for chiming in ;)

[genuinlysensitive]

Lol so wheres my bride?

[Northeast106]

MHO right here.

[RedThread]

@Northeast106 Thanks bro

[Northeast106]

Everytime I see the words Alpha or Beta, a part of my soul dies. lol

[RedThread]

@Northeast106 same here.

[EMPG77]

I don't believe on categorising men, as I wouldn't like men do that with women. Every men is a different world and you got to see their real self inside all the wrapping we built around ourselves. I slept with men for fun only when I'm not in a position or want relationship, not because they are alpha or beta, I need to see something attractive on them... and that can be different things. If I'm lucky to find the one I want to marry for the whole package, in your language I wan a mixture of Alpha and Beta.

[InquisitiveMale]

Alpha is a metaphor. Strictly speaking, it's a rather good one- but it's not.

It could have been used to describe an individual that people congregate around and look to for social guidance, someone who is self assured and makes you feel secure, but is rather often used for self advertising and general stupidity.

If alpha means what it 'can mean', but quite 'often doesn't', then yes, women would preferably fuck the alpha, but they'd also marry them.

[aithe4ngel]

yea those terms certainly are a turn off I wouldn't be around people who used them.. I disagree because of personal prefrences. I am a submissive but I am also a little so it just depends widely on the person. Many factors can conflict in alpha vs omega and whatever it takes a balance of characteristics.. oh well my thoughts... erm good luck with your poll

[Berethor]

Statements like this comes an pick-up con artists and womanizers, I pity any decent woman who fall into their hands, they deserving only to have slut with them, a male can be monogamous and still being an "Alpha", like wolves, but unlike dogs.

[higgsboson]

haha, those poor helpless damsels just can't protect themselves from those meanie douches. hahaha!

[Berethor]

@higgsboson they are actually damsels in distress, that needs saving from total dicks. :)

[higgsboson]

so you give women no self-agency: good job. you deserve everything coming your way.

[Berethor]

@higgsboson I had never said that, I stand up for only an decent girls, not for sluts.

[Anonymous]

Alpha males are great to look at, not to marry or to get into a relationship. Yet most women will try to hook up with the alpha male, those that deny it are liers because by pure instinct women will always try to get the attention of the one that can provide to her, that can defend her, thank has the highest possibilities of procreating. It's nature and that, no one can control it, it's done unconsciously.

[The_Empty]

Alpha males are the stupid hated members of the wolf pack that are, in reality, ignored because they try to make al the choices while the pack is the democracy. They are incapable of controlling their aggression, thus their overwhelming and somewhat pathetic need to dominate. Human alphas are males that literally use animalistic terms to create a one-dimensional version of themselves because it somehow feeds their egos.

Betas are the creation of "alphas"

[BreatheMe19]

Do people really still use the term 'alpha' and 'beta'? Lmao.

[Transigence]

They are useful concepts.

[BreatheMe19]

Not really. I feel like men and women have different definitions of the term. Hence why I think they're stupid.

[SilenRose]

So true. Everyone has their own definition of the terms.

[RachelBrigs]

Any guy who uses those terms seriously is classified as an immature pissfart in my mind and then discarded

[moistycakes]

I don't even associate those words with humans. To me they belong to a wolf pack not men.

[apexalpha]

And werewolf's

[moistycakes]

@apexalpha Yeah exactly.

[vishna]

I have only fucked, dated, given my heart to non-douchey, non self-proclaimed 'alpha males'.

[Billlewis]

I think the ideal arrangement for many women is to have an alpha male boyfriend and a weak, pussy free beta mal to use as a pay pig, maid, etc. Believe it or not, there are a lot of wimps who are looking for that kind of relationship.

[higgsboson]

I judge people by their actions, not words. I will look at someone's dating history, and decide what they truly go for then and only then. Even then, I have to worry about their hamster retroactively revising reality and history.

[ThisDudeHere]

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What is up with gag as of late?

[aegis_penguin]

Too simplistic of a model to describe real life. People's behaviors are so much more complicated than a simple generalization.

[Anonymous]

I don't know if alpha males means assholes and douchebags then yea i would fuck them but marry them? hell no. who wants to spend a lifetime with an idiot. so you are right on that point ;)

[sjoes006]

Im not one to sleep around so the two categories are one in of the same.

[SilenRose]

I'd marry the Alpha male. Here is where people have their own definition of what an Alpha male is and does.

[apexalpha]

Up voted

[Toad-1]

What's an alpha male to you?

[SilenRose]

@Asker To me an alpha male is a gentleman who has this list of qualities and more.

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[Octavius]

So we've been reduced to the social circles of a damn pack of wolves?

[Transigence]

We aren't talking about wolves, we're talking about humans. Love it or hate it, alpha, beta, omega, and zeta are used to describe personality types in men. It doesn't mean the same as it does with wolves.

[Octavius]

@Transigence No the way he's using it and the way I've seen it used almost universally it does relate to the same crap. Some people use it to describe personality types but not most. Usually I stay away from most people that do even use those terms to describe people because they usually are just looking for an ego boost for their insecurities.

[Transigence]

Uhh, there's NO context for how he's using it so you don't know. And the terms are SIMILAR for how we use them with regards to wolves, but they are adapted to human behavior, so don't be confused by their similarity.

And it would probably be a good idea to stop attributing intentions to others when you don't know.

If you doubt, ask the asker to clarify.

[Octavius]

@Transigence No context? For their to be no context he wouldn't have said anything. He talks about girls lusting after alphas that is a context. I can easily infer based on that little info he gave. I'm not going to play coy. Please go bother someone else now.

[Anonymous]

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[Curmudgeon]

I'm the Omega Man:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYk2UiwWeBI

[Mustachekitteh]

Anyone who labels themselves as alpha or beta. To me they are stupid for that.

Either you have a backbone or you don't.

[findingdreamland]

I do not know what this alpha male means anyway. I just want decent guy as a boyfriend as a husband as a friend.

[teawrecks]

I mean it might explain why I never want to get married.

[Toad-1]

What's an alpha male to you?

[teawrecks]

Just a dominant guy in general

[Toad-1]

Would you say an alpha male is a douchebag like a lot of these other girls are saying?

[teawrecks]

They can definitely come across as douchey but once you get to know them no.

[Toad-1]

You feel you can't help but be drawn to them?

[teawrecks]

Well yeah considering I'm attracted to dominant guys.

[blue_sun]

I fundamentally disagree with the premise of your question: that being that males can be categorically divided between "alphas" and "betas".

[Transigence]

They're just useful descriptors for patterns of behavior. Those of us who use the terms know that they are not absolute.

[Anonymous]

Good question, I don't do casual sex so I don't know. i don't really like to hang out with guys that use the term to refer to themselves or others as alpha or beta.

[NerdInDenial]

Whether we want to admit it or not, many women love jerks. They love those men with muscles who treat like crap. They love how men challenge them. That's what the "Alpha" males do.

[Prilee1992]

I disagree.. there's no complete BETA males in society nowadays, people improving... it's depending on the ratio, some people maybe 9:1 or 8:1

[zombiebabe]

i strongly disagree! people normally stay away or dgaf about alpha males

[justbanANNAz]

to me, it's an invalid statement since alpha and beta are illusions.

[Anonymous]

This alpha/beta stuff is over exaggerated pseudoscience.

I've seen very few people who fall neatly into "good" vs "bad" categories. Usually, in today's society, like attracts like.

[boywithpinkhair]

Science says that this is the case (well, if you replace marriage with "pregnancy"), due to hormonal changes.

[SansiSavvy]

All the "alpha" males I've known have been jerks. To be honest... All males think they're alphas

[Bysshe]

"To be honest... All males think they're alphas"

Does that mean I'm not male? :P

[Anonymous]

Absolutely not. I actually feel safer and more comfortable with a guy who knows what he wants and can take control. Especially if he's a guy who respects you and treats you well.

[zagor]

I think alpha males are the ones they WANT to marry; betas are what most of them have to settle for...

[93stepsawayfromhome]

I disagree because alpha/beta is a bullshit classification system that has no real value.

[apexalpha]

For me an alpha is someone that have been a success in life or getting there.

I guess everyone got their own definition of the term. I agree with what @ConsultantIsBack wrote

[ConsultantIsBack]

*fist bump*

[ConsultantIsBack]

Leave it to gag to overcomplicate and challenge simple common sense concepts man lol

[Jennygzlz96]

Totally true haha well maybe simetimes are guys who are alpha but nice guys

[Maxemeister]

Alphas r wolves and betas r wolves and YOU'RE NOT FUCKING WOLVES

[Yanoa_Yanza]

I disagree because if I was a girl and I found myself a husband, he'd be my own alpha

[bubbletrouble]

REAL alpha males are the ones you fuck and marry

[Toad-1]

What's an alpha male to you?

[bubbletrouble]

Marlon Brando minus the illegimate children

[Prof_Don]

the whole alpha / beta male idea is such a farce!

[BelleGirl21]

I married an alpha male.

[OrdinaryGentleman]

no no there is a difference between controlling and alpha.

[BelleGirl21]

@ordinarygentleman I know but he is both controlling and an alpha.

[OrdinaryGentleman]

Strange usually insecure males are controlling

[BelleGirl21]

@ordinarygentleman insecure is not a word I would ever use to describe him.

[SarahsSummer]

fuck and marry Alpha male.

[Toad-1]

Whats an alpha male to you?

[SarahsSummer]

A natural leader, He leads, provides for and protects (his significant other, his buddies, his teammates, and so on). Generally speaking, self proclaimed Alpha males are anything but and usually insecure wannabes.

[Toad-1]

Would you say an alpha male is a douchebag like a lot of these other girls are saying?

[SarahsSummer]

No. Someone who thinks he is and is trying to be comes off as a douchebag. True Alpha males/Born leaders instil confidence in their people and are generally highly regarded.

[DarkHumorRUs]

I disagree because neither exist.

[verticallyinsecure]

people who use those terms are beta fuckers

[Kuraj]

Ladies marry whoever has the financial stability.

[Toadette]

I disagree :p

[Toad-1]

You better! 😛😛😛

[Anonymous]

I disagree. I'm marrying an alpha male somday.

[Toad-1]

What's an alpha male to you?

[Opinion Owner]

Popular, tall, attractive, sporty, charismatic and intelligent.

[Toad-1]

if a man isn't anyone of those things he's not an alpha to you?

[Opinion Owner]

Not for my standarts no.

[Toad-1]

Would you say an alpha male is a douchebag like a lot of these other girls are saying?

[Opinion Owner]

I think this website is full of butthurt introverts, kinda "loser type". So they go for introverts. Like virgins, shy and nerdy guys. This isn't real life though. I'm not like this and nor are any of my friends.

[Toad-1]

sooo introverts are losers to you?

[Opinion Owner]

Hm no. Losers are usually introverts

[Toad-1]

whats a loser to you?

[Opinion Owner]

A person who can't interact with others like they're supposed to and don't accomplish much. Someone that is completely antisocial and has bad grades and such is a loser.

[Toad-1]

what if he gets good grades and has a good job but still lacks social skills?

[Opinion Owner]

The person has to be charismatic to be considered alpha to me.

[Toad-1]

But is that guy a loser to you?

[Opinion Owner]

An antisocial guy? Yeah

[Toad-1]

A guy who is otherwise successful but lacks social skills in life is a loser to you?

[Opinion Owner]

Yes!

[Toad-1]

That's pretty harsh wouldn't you say? He's made a career and does really well in school and even looks attractive... But just because he's a bit shy he's a loser?

[Opinion Owner]

A bit shy is a huge euphemism. If someone has no social skills and no friends, I call that a loser. And yes it is hard but I'm being honest. Many people here say lots of bullshit just to make the asker smile.

[Toad-1]

What about little social skills but does have a few friends?

[Opinion Owner]

I don't know, I like charismatic guys. Guys with many friends and that know how to maintain a conversation and seduce you. It's just my type.

[idkwtftoputhere]

I disagree, I don't marry anyone. Period.

[apple24]

I am not getting so why does it matter.

[Anonymous]

More attracted to betas overall

[Anonymous]

I only fuck alpha females.

[COCOCHANEL]

i marry alpha males

[apexalpha]

When can we set the date? 😀

[Toad-1]

What's an alpha male to you?

[COCOCHANEL]

a man who is a boss

[Toad-1]

A boss? at a job or career?

[COCOCHANEL]

yes and successful at what he does

[Toad-1]

so he has money basically right?

[COCOCHANEL]

not necessarily

[COCOCHANEL]

he could be in debt and/or incarcerated

[Toad-1]

wow incarcerated? you'd marry that?

[COCOCHANEL]

i might take a bullet

[Toad-1]

Why?

[COCOCHANEL]

the block gets hot sometimes

[Toad-1]

So alpha males are just hot sometimes?

[COCOCHANEL]

bicycally, yeah

[Toad-1]

so he could be a loser in prison for murder, but as long as he's hot he's alpha and someone you'd marry?

[COCOCHANEL]

the incarceration would usually take place after the marriage

[Toad-1]

And if that incarceration was a result of murder? you're ok with that?

[COCOCHANEL]

it would depend on what happened

[Anonymous]

11 Girls are honest.