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It depends on who you are. Some people just don't know how to deal with certain situations, I don't think it makes them any less of a person. I haven't been put into too many life threatening situations and I'm not a fighter, but I don't expect anyone to protect to me. I'm used to being let down in my times of need so I always take matter into my own hands.Protections not required but much appreciated. There's nothing wrong with getting alittle help.
I guess it's just a nature thing. Males are biological protectors, I've noticed it in all my male friends, they feel the need to keep me safe from being injured. I don't always appreciate it, but it's reassuring to know that there's someone to help you when you're at your weakest.
well, guys are stronger, taht is a fact of life, and depending on the attacker, pepperspray may be futile. but the real answer, I believe, is that girls don't need to feel protected, rather they like the idea of feeling protected...its out of desire, not necessity. of course you may be different, and I'm sure there are guys out there somewhere taht are ok with that
I usually don't bring it up/don't mention it, but I typically could beat up most of my male friends/boyfriends and they know that. I don't even carry a pepper spray, there is no need. Men are easily disabled within a matter of seconds, if you know what you are doing, and most of the time you don't even have to have the physical strenght.
Being fit and taking self defense classes doesn't mean that you can take care of yourself if something were to happen. It would definitely help but may not be enough. Having a guy around or others in general will probably make a potential attacker think twice about coming after you. If your boyfriend wanted to feel like he was protecting you, would you deny him that?
Deny him what? The oppurtunity to express his dominance over you? If the OP is not comfortable with having a guy protect her, then why should she be judged because of that?
I am a very strong woman, I am a collegiate athelete and can hold my own aganst people bigger and stronger than me. I have stepped in to protect men who were at risk and they just yelled at me for making them look bad. So there is a huge double standard going on here. If a women does not want protection, she is denying the m
Stop with that feminist bullsh*t. You can say what you want but the chances of you taking on a guy that is intentionally trying to do you harm are slim. Its not impossible but is unlikely. Its simple biology. Most guys like to provide for and protect their girlfriend, wife, or just females in general.
If she doesn't want a guy standing up for her, even in circumstances when she is being attacked, then we should respect her bodily autonomy and not stand up for her. The problem with this scenario though, is that when we don't, and some harm befalls a woman, feminists then rage the opposite argument, that they are arguing in this post, that is, that someone SHOULD have helped. Men have been sued for not helping AND for helping.
I agree with both the men. I'm sorry but there is a lot of theory from the women on how they can protect themselves. No woman who has ever been surronded by a group of guys in a sh*tty part of town thinks twice about the benefits of a man's protection. When you live in a suburb and the worst fear is the surfer dude who is high all the time, it's easy to think you are a strong powerful woman who can kick ass. Go to the ghetto and rethink the benefits of a guy.
I applaud the QA for taking self defense classes and carrying spray in case something happens. I think every woman shoud because it can help. However, there is one huge flaw with sd classes: they can't teach you to instinctively utilize the things you've learned. Only experience can teach you that. If something happened, your mind would probably go blank and you might fumble with your spray. I've taken Karate since I was 10, I've taken sd courses, I've been training in mma for the past couple
Years, and I'm a soldier. It took years for me to be able to use skills I've learned instinctively. I think I can handle myself better than the average person, but I know being by myself in some areas is foolish. Like I said, having a guy or a group of people around will prevent most attackers or at least make them more hesitant. As for my last sentence, I like to provide and protect. I'm the type of person that would sacrifice myself so that others could get away.
Aoirthoir- I don't think the OP doesn't want someone to step in when she is being attacked. That would just be foolish. I think, and I may be wrong, that she doesn't want to have to rely on protection from a man every time she leaves her house.
Anon- My feminist bullsh*t is what makes your mother, sisters, daughters and every other woman in your life have the choice to live the life she wants. If the OP wants a guys protection, she can go for it and if she doesn't, that's fine as well. Oh yea, next time you talk about "feminist bullsh*t" tell the women in your life that they can't vote, own property, get a divorce, have sexual autonomy within a marriage and every other right they have, those are all direct results of feminist bullsh*t
" If the OP wants a guys protection, she can go for it and if she doesn't, that's fine as well." I agree with that. I never said anything against that.
I needn't say more because it'd be like talking to a brick wall. Just so you know, I wasn't talking about feminism as a whole, but the way you expressed your view in the first comment was, in my opinion, something that one of the more extreme feminists would've said. That kind of feminism is bullsh*t.
THANK YOU!! Someone who make senses. Perfect statement: "I think I can handle myself better than the average person, but I know being by myself in some areas is foolish. Like I said, having a guy or a group of people around will prevent most attackers or at least make them more hesitant."
Clearly some life experience in that statement.
Colegrl, while I agree with much (not all) of what you said, this needs addressed:
" If the OP wants a guys protection, she can go for it and if she doesn't, that's fine as well"
Right. But she DOES NOT afford OTHER women the same option. Remember, THOSE women are PATHETIC. It's not her right to bodily autonomy and self-protection I am opposing, it IS her marginalizing language.
Anon Most of us can protect ourselves in many situations. NONE of us can do it in ALL. Your points are well taken.
@update- If he was really set on doing something to you, he would have done it. What big adult male is going to let a 15 year old beat him up? None. You caught him by surprise, so don't get full of yourself.
Stop trying to cut other women down. Not everyone woman is like you & can defend themselves physically. Men are biologically stronger & can build muscle easier. Women are not the same & some men know this & try to take advantage. Ever heard of rape, yeah that is what some men do to women because they know they are stronger. Face it, women need a man to keep other guys at bay.
yawn
Most people can't remain calm under pressure. Some people are capable of dislocating a man's shoulder in a crisis situation. Or snapping his neck and feeling literally nothing. Some people lose their ability to feel because they repress due to emotional duress from their past. Other people just choose to control or hide their emotions.
Some are just born empty, with the lights on and nobody home. Most people are pathetic and weak and need someone to tell them what to do. Obviously you don't, so do what makes you happy and look out for your own interests. Nobody else is going to. In the end even when you die, nobody will really be effected by it. So you have to live life on your own terms, and try to let other people do the same without hurting them or getting in their way.
It isn't wrong to follow your heart though, or at least that's what I was told.
guys like it usually, get over yourself, is it really that bad to be protected, grow up and get over it, its better then all of them trying to jump you
It IS that bad to be dependent on someone and not be a whole human being. I certainly don't like the idea of a woman who wants me to act like here parent and take care of her I find the idea disgusting.
Shf84, really? What about a woman that is truly unable to defend herself? What about a paraplegic? Or a woman otherwise differently abled? Or someone who was herself violent in the past and so now seeks at all costs to avoid violence? Or someone who was raised in a cult? Or someone with PTSD?
So you are saying if SHE DECIDES that one factor she wants in a mate is protection, she's DISGUSTING? Do you REALLY REALLY think such misogynistic language is helpful to any of those women?
You really do need to learn to read things in context can't you make connection between what he wrote and the post he is writing it about? What makes you think that either one of us is talking about a woman who is ill in some way? What kind of logic would it take to make such an assumption any way? If a woman want's to prostitute her self for protection yes I think that's disgusting It certainly isn't about love more like something an animal would do.
"What makes you think that either one of us is talking about a woman who is ill in some way?"
Trying to claim I said you said something I never said you said, won't work. Facts are that I'm pointing out that you're LEAVING said women OUT of the discussion when you INSIST that a woman MUST do as YOU deem or she is pathetic. So I bring up some EXAMPLES of WHY a woman MIGHT choose a DIFFERENT path for herself.
I also note you have an obsession with comparing things to prostitution.
She talks about women not needing protection by men and it's pathetic (which it is) the context is obviously harmful gender roles. To bring women who are incapacitated into the argument is absurd it has nothing to do with what she's saying period. You would have to go through some real gymnastics to get there from here. You do that and it looks silly and you wonder why others don't agree with you .
"To bring women who are incapacitated into the argument is absurd"
NO. To IGNORE women who don't fit HER able-bodied, classist PRIVILEGE is absurd. She frames an argument in an insulting manner and no one's allowed to speak up and say "HEY! Your calling women pathetic disenfranchises entire SECTORS of society!?"
Challenging such disenfranchisment is the ACTUAL challenge to gender roles. Calling women pathetic is NOT.
She's not disenfranchising "whole segments of society" she's saying a certain behavior is pathetic and perhaps the people who engage in that behavior are pathetic as well true maybe that's disenfranchising the ones engaging in the behavior but maybe a good kick in the ass is what they need.
Certain "behavior" is pathetic? That MOST CERTAINLY IS disenfranchising certain women. It places the onus for their victimization ON THEM, instead of on the persons it belongs, the VICTIMIZERS.
" but maybe a good kick in the ass is what they need."
The thing about your victim blaming language, is you actually think you are making empowering statements for women. It is NOT EMPOWERING to be BLAMED for OTHERS violence. Victim blaming is misogyny at its WORST, no matter how YOU try to cut it.
I don't see it that way at all again has nothing to do with their sex it has to do with them doing something wrong you can say that all you want but I don't buy into your world view and it means nothing to me.
"them doing something wrong"
Get this through your head, a person being attacked is doing NOTHING wrong. Saying they are is VICTIM BLAMING. A person seeking protection from being attacked is doing NOTHING wrong.
"I don't buy into your world view"
Do you mean my world view where we blame those that COMMIT violence rather than their victims? Or my world view where we let women (and all genders) DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES how they are going to live?
I don't buy into a world view where the goal is to make accusations of prejudice or propose some bizarre hypothesis about someone blaming victims who thinks that picking your lover based on their ability to protect you is prostitution. (which it is) The accusations your making are improbable to the point of being ridiculous but you continue to make them over and over what kind of thinking is that any way?
"about someone blaming victims"
When you compare someone that hasn't done anything wrong to a murderer, that is victim blaming.
"who thinks that picking your lover based on their ability to protect you"
ONLY YOU have said this. It's a strawman. NO ONE ELSE has argued that they pick lovers based on their ability to protect. Since your arguments have no standing, you have to resort to ad hominem and strawmen.
" is prostitution. (which it is)"
Wanting to be protected isn't prostitution.
"The accusations your making are improbable to the point of being ridiculous"
Actually their factual and logical. You've shown utter contempt for people that want to be protected, so much so that you've resorted to conflated them with prostitution, murder, child abusers, serial killers and other absurd exaggerations that have nothing to do with them.
" but you continue to make them"
By which you mean I keep rebutting your false claims.
By which I mean you keep saying the same crap over and over and over. Conflation is trying to confuse two different but similar things. Using a one thing to explain another is the opposite , an attempt to clarify. I'm trying to point out the fallacy of your nihilistic belief system. If you were really able to rebut my arguments you wouldn't need to constantly resort to accusations you would use logic.
"Conflation is trying to confuse two different but similar things"
Yes, the two different things are, a person being defended and a person attacking (murder, serial killer, child abuser). The thing they hold in common is CHOICE. You keep conflating the choice to be defended with the choice to harm because you have called the choice to be defended immoral. That's not particularly logical.
It's not nihilism I'm practicing. Rather I am saying you are not moral, in fact you are immoral.
Choosing a lover based on protection instead of love in whole or in part is immoral and harmful.
It degrades the person and society at large. Such behavior must be condemned as what it is, wrong.
"Choosing a lover based on protection instead of love in whole or in part is immoral"
No it's not.
"and harmful."
Actually protection is the opposite of harm. So not it's not harmful.
"It degrades the person"
No it doesn't.
"and society at large."
Nope. Being protective benefits society at large.
"Such behavior must be condemned as what it is, wrong."
You're wrong, but let's pretend you are right. What is the eventual goal? I assume you would like to see a situation where women take protection into their own hands no?
So then tell me how telling them that they or their decisions are pathetic is going to help them build the confidence needed (and yes it DOES require confidence) to learn to defend themselves?
You've made demands of women, but no real solutions at all.
"Choosing a lover based on protection instead of love in whole or in part is immoral"
I also wanted to clarify this false claim. shf84 keeps setting up a dichotomy. Either you chose your lover because of love OR because of protection. This is entirely false and he knows it.
MOST people fall in love with someone and LIKE being protected by them whether it is emotional, spiritual or physical protection. SOME people get protected and that is ONE FACTOR which leads to love.
It's not either/or.
And you don't pay attention to what I say. It could be either or and it could be in part but protection shouldn't even come into the equation you chose your lover because you love who they are as a person not because you want something from them.
"not because you want something from them."
Hogwash! We all ABSOLUTELY want something from our lovers. It is not at all uncommon to want our lovers to hold us, talk with us, live with us, share work with us, comfort and protect us in troubling times and many other things. Wanting these things from our lovers is in NO way NOT loving them.
Your "either we love them OR we want something from them" is a false dichotomy. Real people in love DO want things from each other.
And some things it's OK to want and some things it isn't like protection or material goods.
I agree that a woman needs to be tough enough to handle herself, but to me, sometimes its nice to have a guy that is willing to protect you. Only because I'm old fashioned like that and like chivalrous guys.
Fuck chivalry give me a woman with a spine who acts normal.
Hmm. I agree, I am opposed to chivalry entirely. But a woman that makes different decisions is not lacking a spine. Further such language is ableist.
I call it common sense abelism has 0 to do with it.
"I call it common sense, ableism has 0 to do with it."
The reference to women with a spine references the "spineless" meme, that a person without courage is spineless. By using the physical to reference a purported bad decision, it most certainly IS ableist. Further, calling one persons actions "normal" implies others actions are "not" normal. This is most certainly classist. It's disgusting the way you disregard women who don't fit YOUR world view.
Ha ha ha ha spineless a reference to someone who actually has a problem with their real physical spine holy sh*t I didn't know someone could get that out there. You don't even understand the metaphor it's a reference to mechanical stability the spine the frame and has nothing to do with someone having a problem with their actual bones. This is almost like schizophrenia actually turning fascinating in a morbid way.
"You don't even understand the metaphor "
I do understand the metaphor. It's an insult targetted at someone not "brave enough" to suit your taste.
"This is almost like schizophrenia"
Again more abelism. You could absolutely be used in a woman's studies class about how NOT to address women.
It's an insult directed at someone not brave enough not to hurt others and themselves with their behavior
Mentioning schizophrenia is not "ableism" it's making an observation. Now if I were to say something like people with schizophrenia are a bunch of morons they can't get the job done right don't hire them. That's directed at schizophrenics as a group mentioning the disease is purely making an analogy. It's your cult like conditioning to make accusations of prejudice at every turn again.
"It's an insult directed at someone not brave enough not to hurt others and themselves with their behavior"
Seeking protection is not hurting anyone.
"Mentioning schizophrenia is not "ableism" it's making an observation."
Yes it is. None of us are buying into the idea that your actually making a diagnosis. Rather, your using a real illness as fodder for an attempted insult. Willingness to use a condition to insult others is the very definition of ableism.
Using schizophrenia as an example is just that. Now if I wanted to use it as an insult I could do that to I"m sure you would be pressed to find schizophrenic that thinks the disease is a good thing.
Shf84 you chose it as an 'example' for a very specific reason. You are attempting to use ableism as a shaming tactic. Rather than address my points directly, your trying to dismiss me personally. It is insulting to an entire group of people who have their serious medical condition to flippantly use that condition as a shaming tactic. But that's ok to you because, from the start your entire argument has been based on insults rather than facts.
I chose it as an example because the example fits nothing more. To me ablism is discrimination against the disabled to you it's mentioning schizophrenia as an example. Want to know why?
Because your a deluded fanatic and you don't think the way normal people do.
"I chose it as an example because the example fits nothing more."
Keep saying that and maybe someone will believe you.
"To me ablism is discrimination against the disabled"
See you don't get to decide what ableism is, those marginalized by it get to.
"to you it's mentioning schizophrenia as an example."
No, to those marginalized by ableism it is.
"Want to know why? Because your a deluded fanatic and you don't think the way normal people do."
You mean I don't think they way YOU Think I should think.
Women(and all genders) should have FULL BODILY AUTONOMY, free to make their own decisions, enter ADULT, CONSENTING relationships where NO ONE IS HURT, should not be disenfranchised because they decide something different from you, me or others are all examples of "deluded fanatical" thinking to you.
Then I'll gladly be "deluded".
You will twist and turn and throw accusations of prejudice to get others to think the way you do.
Looks very much to me like it's you that wants to control how others see the world.
And wrong is wrong weather it's consensual or not. Ideas like that spread and they do cause harm legitimizing them is foolish unless you want to live in a world where men are considered protectors and women hide behind them instead of being their equals.
"You will twist and turn and throw accusations of prejudice"
Actually the ones that came out of the starting gate with iflamatory language were you and the OP. I called you on this and rightly pointed out your prejudicial language.
"to get others to think the way you do."
And you don't? Actually most of us want others to think as we do. In my case I want others to think that they are entitled to bodily autonomy. That they are entitled to live life free, and that involves not hurting others.
"Looks very much to me like it's you that wants to control how others see the world."
What I argue is, if a woman wants to defend herself, she should be able, without being insulted. If she wants to partner with those that will also protect her, she should be able to without being insulted.
In other words I want her (and all other genders) to be free to make their own consenting decisions without intimidation and harm from others.
"Ideas like that spread and they do cause harm legitimizing them is foolish unless you want to live in a world where men are considered protectors and women hide behind them instead of being their equals."
Women that are protected aren't "hiding" behind their men. Nor is your either or scenario the likely outcome, or even indeed the current state of affairs. The world is much broader and women are much stronger than you keep giving them credit for.
You know as well as I do the prevalence of the idea that men are protectors and women need protection and you well know the harm that idea does.
"You know as well as I do the prevalence of the idea that men are protectors and women need protection and you well know the harm that idea does"
Actually I grew up with a mom that defended herself quite well. I mentioned upthread that she knocked out a man much taller and stronger than she because he mickied her drink. I also mentioned upthread that you must have grown up differently than I did because I've not met women claiming the things you claim about them.
And no it isn't harmful.
Yes is it is harmful it spreads like a lot of bad ideas spread right now there are organizations pushing this idea like Eagle Forum for one. You can sit there and talk about bodily autonomy I'm going to fight them every step of the way.
"Yes is it is harmful it spreads like a lot of bad ideas spread"
Being protected by and protecting loved ones is not harmful.
"there are organizations pushing this idea"
Bad organizations can push good ideas. It is a good idea to defend ourselves, and loved ones.
"You can sit there and talk about bodily autonomy I'm going to fight them every step of the way."
Right because if a woman DECIDES to protect or be protected, she should NOT have that right. And you're not a misogynist. Hmm.
Same old spin if someone dissagrees with a memeber of a group their attacking the group if someone mentions a disease their attacking people who have the disease. I don't honestly don't know what kind of insanity could have lead to the people you learned this from formulating it in the first place drug use maybe or perhaps they actually were insane that any one would buy this is unbelievable .
Because some people are protective - if a friend of mine gets insulted or attacked I will be there to defend them regardless of their sex. Also I have a hard time believing your story unless you are built like a tank or have been taking karate forever.
hunny your crazy, taking self defense is nothing like being attacked and pepper spray? do you really think everyone is out to get you? a guy makes me feel a bit safer but I'm fine on my own it only becomes pathetic when the girl can't live without a man
So very true
amen.
because girls are more likely to get raped stupid. are you that naive?
Men get raped too and usually its guys doing the raping so how is that protecting a girl?
Wow you're dumb.
No she isn't she has a valid point if you can's see that your the one who is dumb.
Swampwater and shf84, can you knock it off with the ableist language? Calling someone dumb because you disagree with their viewpoint is unconscionable. It marginalizes those that are differently abled regarding their ability to speak. Rather than just insulting, say what is WRONG.
Swampwater, estimates suggest that rape of males is underreported by a factor of hundreds. Unlike women, no one takes ANY men who have been raped seriously. Even with evidence criminal charges are rarely filed.
Your wasting you breath with that abelist crap it simply isn't true She's able all right she isn't talking about a disability she's talking about needing protection because of her sex. Why don't you take critical thinking to go with your sociology courses?
Sfh84, sorry but you're wrong AGAIN. She's not just talking about herself. She called OTHER women who make different decisions PATHETIC. Since some women haven't the PRIVILEGE to make decisions SHE deems they should, differently abled women being only one category among them, her post IS classist AND ableist.
And you are right I AM wasting my breath if my goal were to change YOUR mind. Persons that are so willing to categorically demean others, rarely are changed. But, that's not my goal.
She's talking about a stereotype about the idea in society that women need men for protection and that's all she's talking about. A 12 year old kid could see that. Yet you bring up a bunch of arcane ideas about "ableism" and "classism" none of which are germane to what she is talking about.
Yes that IS what she is talking about. NO KIDDING. Talking about OTHER WOMEN with MISOGYNISTIC language DOES NOT get her a free pass because she is a woman.
And these ideas about ableism and classism are NOT arcane. They are FULLY relevant to the OP. Her language was DISENFRANCHISING, INSULTING and IGNORED ENTIRE spectrums of the female population.
So yeah, it IS germaine to bring up.
Lol you guys need to get a life
PS do you hold shift or hit caps lock professor angry?
Swampwater, I use SHIFT instead of *this*. I like it because it makes people think I am ANGRY when ACTUALLY I am just EMPHASIZING words. :D
A little humility here. You are, "extremely fit". If you were, "extremely rich" it seems like you'd write the same letter except instead of "protect" it would read "support"
I may not always think I need a man to protect me but I know I deserve one why should I have to fight or do anything that a man should do for me its because of girls like you who are stripping men of manhood men want to take care of there woman so why not let them it is only natural and in return we take care of our man in other ways its suppose to be that way everything is so messed up nowadays
You sound dumb as hell, no one wants a helpless bastard as there girlfriend/wife
I don't NEED a man to protect me because I know kung fu..BUT...i would like to know that if something goes down,im not gonna get punched in the face like "Snooki" or have to fend for myself,even though I know I can.
Why knock it? They are young dumb and full of come because of it! I mean that's where the smooth talking bad boy moraless player and his bad boy freinds get in and get to be the one to go home with her and protect her. And in the end he gets his jack off. This is wear men can't stand a female because these creepy bad boy men always can steal his dream girl away from him because he is so powerful... It's pathetic! Women Suck!
Because most girls haven't taken defense classes and are not really strong. That is the honest truth, that is how it will always be. Its cool you can protect yourself and probably your boyfriend! haha, jk
when your were 15 you left a much bigger and stronger man than your self with a dislocated shoulder
with a man who will protect u, he will left the man who attacks you with broken face
Hey anon, if you still visit the site, I want to let you know that I truly respect your view.
thanks. I just gave up on responding to this question because it got to be too much. had no idea it would get so many replies.
Yeah.. I'm not surprised. I would have also gotten bored of how it's mostly GUYS saying "it's a biological need for women". xD
it doesn't really matter if you took self defense classes or have pepper spray. if a man 100-200 lbs heavier than you hits you, you'll probably end up in the hospital. even if he is of average strength.
Natural born feminist. Those women, don't "need" men to protect them. They just like the idea of being cared about.
Cause many guys see girls as fragile. It's a masculine thing. It's a biological instinct.
what biological instinct? anyone that preys on something they think is weaker then them are only proving how weak they truly are and girls always get underestimated in this aspect - small bodies help with speed and nimble hands can cause more damage then big ones
Pepper Spray is for posers, you need a .38 special, oh wait your under 18 never mind :)
Not for much longer. :)
It's great that you CAN handle yourself.
I think the question is: Do you want to have to?
I can't understand this for the life of me. I don't want to be a girls body guard and I love a girl thas stands up for HERSELF
with your pepper spray and all the karate stuffs if I really want to hurt you I will
well I'm sorry to say if your under 18 your self defense and pepper spray won't stop a full grown and attacking 20-29 year old man
Good luck attacking someone when you're on the ground incapacitated. I've been detroying people 3 times my size in muscle and/or body weight for a long time. physiology does not change person to person
Whats funny is your a 21 yearold guy...the person that she would have to be deffending against...which is my point. Pepper spray and a girls feble defensive techniques will NOT stop a enraged or viloent man. if you think so then your stupid. and obviously havnt taken any kind of fight training where you can see the difference between a man and woman in combat
If a a 6 year child with no knowledge of marital arts was attacked by ragging man, prayed him with pepper spray and punched him in the throat. The man would be on his knees either dying, gasping for air or throwing up. In terms of combat women are superior in every way they have better genetics. If one person hit another in the temple with 400 pounds of pressure they will unconscious. That is a very light hit, even 6 year could hit harder than that. the list goes on
Thats bullsh*t...pepper spray is only effective if used with extreme precission
MOST women cannot muster 400 pounds of force behind a punch...this just proves your bullsh*ting and have never taken combat course or you would know...stop reading books and studies and get some practical knowledge ...it only takes 30 pounds of pressure to break a knee...hit there but the fact is women are raped for a reason..they hardly ever beat a man.
Any one can manage 400 pounds of pressure. Women aren?t week, American women are weak and defenseless and that?s because they brain washed to think they are and usualy don't learn martial. Considering actual professionals (not American MMA fighters) can punch with 1,000 pounds of pressure, so yes that is a light hit. Anyone can learn martial arts and women will always be better in general because of their genetics.
Your a f***ing moron. you prove it every time you post. I would say american women are some of the most tough and driven women in the world...your a complete fool though to insist a woman is on par with a man. There is a reason that men kill thousands of woman a year and you rarely hear of a case in which a woman beat of a male attacker. your stupid uneducated and just being plain ignorant.
and many of them lay their head on his shoulders. Their is a famous song: "put your head on my shoulders"
your best answer is a good answer. however guys who have more experience like a girl who can hold their own. that's REALLY sexy
Maybe it is instinctual. I mean back in the cave-man days a man would have to be willing to fight off enemies and predators as this would ensure the survival of the next generation.
It's not a need, it's a want. Women want a man to show that he cares. Men want to feel like they are the "hunters". It's all in the head.
Are you a "man"? No? Then how can you know?
Well. I like the fact that a boy would be protective of me, it's cute. I want a guy like that not because I can't protect myself or anything (I'm not that fit, but I'm pretty strong and working at it), I just think it's comforting and sweet.
wow I am seriously tired of all this crap you guys are talking about
how about we just agree some girls can protect themselves and some like to be protected
you guys don't have to be so crass about this
the average women is 5'4
the average man is 5'10
were bigger and stronger.
do you live under a rock? it doesn't matter...and how the hell is height connected to strength? that is just crap...
Regardless if I can fight, I don't want my face effed up.
a strong man needs a strong woman as well, I wish more women were like you
because man have big swaggs hanging down which other men don't touch lol
Dislocated his shoulder? YOU GO GIRL! well done!
i'm like you. Fit, trained in defense and independant. I don't need a man for protection.
Hey I'm not saying I rely on guys to protect me but there have been times that without a guy there would have been bad. I grew up with my brother protecting me from ummm stuff and I know I mainly defend myself but sometimes I can't.
i know I've kicked a lot more ass then my boyfriend has.. I guess some girls are just wuss bags:)
Ha ha ha ha ha you said it!!! That's for DAMN sure.
Ok Lesbian go do something constructive other than brag about how strong you are.
It's pathetic really when science already proved men are designed stronger so quit your whining.
Defense lessons aren't going to do sh*t unless you're 300 pounds. YOU SURE ARE ONE TOUGH COOKIE! OMG! hahahhahahahahhaha. I wish I was there to see that.
I guess I just don't want a man that WILL NOT or CAN NOT protect me...
Um, they read it in Twilight?
LOL Edward only protects until he decides to be a idiot and leave
ID LOVE A MAN TO PROTECT ME!
Most guys would protect a girl. I know I would and have a while ago.
I'm so proud of you, strong lady. I share your opinion.
because their strong and brave.
Wy do you presume or project?
f*** no I can protect myself
you wish.
^ what anonymous user said
because I'm not a dikey hell beast.
'Cause girls are pussies.
I just came back to this and I agree with you.
By "you" I mean me, not you.
i want a guy that can protect me. Am so paranoid.
girls feel safe with guys
not need...want
For WHAT.