Im not sure i understand the premise of the question. It seems you assume strong and weak opinions correlate to "correct opinions". If someone has an opinion on something its always based on other things that person assumes are facts. If the person should learn those facts were wrong it doesn't matter wether the opinion is strong or not. I have strong opinions on some things and weak on others but with all of them, if discussed with someone and i should learn something an opinion was based on was wrong id certainly be proned to change it even if it was rock hard, depending ofc on how much of the opinion was based on the particular fact. However if were talking those opinions that even when explored come up with more or less no facts to hang on or at least trivial facts, like say f. ex you like the toilet seat down after use while your partner finds it a hassle, then your question seems more about how much compromise ability people are looking for in a partner. Because then were essentially talking about sacrifice. I live with a gal and a guy, she asked me to do it once, i said i would try to remember, i did it a couple of times incoherently before i stopped, i never had any intentions of doing it at all just wanted to make it seem like i tried. If it was someone i was romantically involved with and wasn't known to manipulate, not too much at least as everyone does so to some extent, i would gladly and proudly do it every time. If it was a manipulator (or a leash holder if you want) i would pull the same strat as i already did with the gal i live with even if i was romantically involved with them. So to me your question seems more about how much compromise ability were looking for than strong or weak opinions?
It can be framed that way too, yes.
Sorry it just reminds of a similar if not same topic about clint eastwood doing the dishes: everyone agrees that he's a, for lack of better words, "a real man" right? But in today society mayne clint would be a bit too much of a man, he's certainly not ever gonna do the dishes now is he? Why, because his opinion is that its a womans job. Im guessing we also expect this opinion to be strong, but he could compromise a little and do them sometimes. The real question is if he does it too much is he a pussy/pushover/weak opinionated (in askers words)? If you're married to him and he does the dishes everyday, waits for you at home with dinner, hangs on your every word etc. Will the flame or rather your interest wither? "Do the dishes one too many times and you're a pussy"
It depends upon what kind of the opinions she has.
If they are well established like she has a positive, progressive and optimistic approach to the things in life, I'd not mind. But if not, then it'd be a serious problem. I cannot settle with a bigot.
I also don't want a gullible person who can easily be influenced by negative people. That'd be dangerous. What I want is someone who is ready to learn at every aspect of her life. Who accepts every positive change. There is no limit to learn. Such people are the horses of long race.
"Knowledgeable never changes his opinions, the wise always do"
- @HandsomeRaj
It depends on the level of intellect said person is equipped with. If the person is highly intellectual then opinionated is good since their formed opinions would more likely be based on facts and then we could have a great time arguing points and trying to get the other to see our perspective when having intellectual discussions. At the same time a person with a higher intellectual level would also be objective enough to concede if or when their stance is proven wrong in an argument. This is the ideal idea for me.
But if the person is not very intellectual then my preference would not be someone highly opinionated since they would be less open to conceding when they are proven wrong but would rather take a "wrong and strong" approach. In a relationship, someone who is going to stand for what they believe in regardless of if their stance is nonsensical is just a no for me, a person has to have some sense of reasoning and balance and putting silly pride aside. Because refusing to admit you are wrong in a discussion just reads as false pride to me.
I definitely prefer people in general who have their own opinions, even if we happen to disagree. It just makes for more engaging and interesting conversations. I've always thought that people who easily change their opinions or are easily influenced by others, are total doormats. It also comes off as less genuine to me, like they're more likely to change their opinion based on who they're with, just to please everyone around them. So in the end it feels like you don't even know who they are or what they think, because it changes daily. And for me trust is important, in every single aspect, so if I feel like someone isn't being genuine or they're constantly agreeing with everyone, even if everyone is of a different opinion, I believe I won't be able to trust them and they might go against me behind my back. At least with someone who's opinionated, you know upfront what they think and believe, even if we disagree with each other.
Hmm kind of depends on the context as well.. I like people who know what they stand for, but who are willing to try and understand your pov. Some people are like "what I'm saying is 100% truth" and they aren't even trying to understand (even when they are wrong → they view their opinion (s) as facts ).
Someone who is flexible, has an open mind and is able to reflect from time to time. ✔
Changing an opinion to make people like you is a no go for me. One moment they say this, you tell them you like the opposite and suddenly they have another opinion...
A mix of both. I want someone to be well enough informed to hold their own, but not so stubborn as to defy change when it's needed. I generally lean a little towards the opinionated because those make more interesting discussion partners. Great question by the way.
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You don't want either some who won't their opinion on anything, even with a bunch of new information, nor do you want someone so malleable that they change their opinion too easily or just to please others. Something in the middle of those two extremes?
* someone who won't
Diplomats.
They know when to be opiniated and when to be malleable. Or most of the time, they'll chose the middle path.
Anyway from above two options, I'd like someone whose opinions are malleable, is open to other ideas and point of views and is not afraid to point out what he thinks wrong and right. I think these types of people are always learning and they know that they don't know everything.
I'd want someone in the middle. I don't want a push over but I want someone strong in their beliefs where I can have an educated conversation with them. Option A sounds like a guy who won't move in his thoughts even if he's wrong and Option B just sounds like a wuss.
A partner with changeable opinions, i like open minded people BUT i don't want them to be easily lead or manipulated by others, so at least some of there opinions set in stone.
People with well-established opinions can get carried away with their opinions to the point where they are labeled irritating or argumentive.
If she has a healthy way of displaying her well-established opinions to people, including me, then I am all for it as there very likely is something she knows that I might enjoy learning.
However, if she just wants to push her idea/ideas down others throats for the sake of "winning" then she is not what I would consider "keeper" material. This would be a deal breaker for me.
Ironic coming from you 😂😂
@availableuponrequest lol Ya, I suppose it is... Just a tad bit... lol
I personally don't believe in such a thing as open/close mindedness.
Opinions are the result of your capacity to make informed opinions via the combination of logical reasoning and information availability.
I would, of course, prefer a partner with intellectual capacity sufficient enough to make informed opinions on a regular basis, someone who employs logical reasoning, rather than emotions, to form their opinions.
Someone who is never going to budge when they are right, but at the same time, someone who readily changes their opinion as soon as new information presents itself.
The capacity to make informed opinions via logical reasoning and available information still lack depth, to me. A person who never uses emotional analyses in decision making regarding themselves or their opinion has little capacity to prove their personal standpoint (needs, wants, dreams, goals, strengths, weaknesses, commitment) - in my opinion.
Certainly, this depends on the area of discussion. Work (deliverance, goals, improvements) where patterns are easy to maintain and certain ways will lead to success; where statistics are essential and profit is the goal. Sure. However, emotions are needed in the same situation, not so much in the structure of "why", but certainly in the creation of "how", if reaching the goal involves people.
I appreciate logical reasoning and informed opinions any day, but a person unable to tap into emotional nuances in order to deepen an opinion or understanding of sorts, is somewhat limited to me. I find the balance between the two to be key.
@SkyeMind I don't see how basing your opinions on objective analysis of all relevant factors is shallow.
"Tapping into" your irrational impulses brought forth by chemical imbalances in your brain that you have no control over is shallow.
In a way, involving your feelings is no decision making at all.
This is why the most ignorant and opinionated views are based on emotions, rather than reason.
@Kurαȷ "Tapping into" your irrational impulses brought forth by chemical imbalances in your brain that you have no control over is shallow."
I actually love when that comes up - it's the first thing a "thinker" will respond with to a "feeler's" opinion. The play is honorable, and the thinker "always win". However that's not really true. To undermine emotional intelligence as "irrational behavior" is incredibly juvenile to me.
That is a limited view of what a human being is capable of through actually understanding and deciphering human behavior emotionally (experiences, triggers and auto-responses due to the firing and wiring of neurons in the brain). We're not robots.
I didn't say your views were shallow, just to be clear. You come a long way in life with logical reasoning and statistic based information. However, it is my opinion, that in the end of that reasoning, you will still miss the value that "emotional intelligence" provides.
@SkyeMind "We're not robots."
Yes, we are.
The universe is inherently deterministic, and so is human biology.
The thinker always wins because there is always the most efficient solution, finding that solution depends on the amount of information available to you and your ability to process it.
The only thing emotions serve is your ego, and your ego is the thing you should listen to the least.
It's "juvenile" to see emotions, an objectively worthless and self-serving byproduct of human cognition, as anything more than a detriment.
You know we will need to agree to disagree.
It sounds perfect, doesn't it, to be able to narrow it down in boxed concepts and logical patterns for "the most efficient solution". I agreed to that. Thinkers are fabulous in those situations. It is even more amazing, following the analyses of such dissection; the aha-moments and the strapping of emotional turmoil to find that very thing that solves "it all". But it doesn't. It might be the "efficient" solution but not always the right answer.
I'm surrounded by Thinkers, who in their every day mind need to always win with logical advantages and "most efficient solution". My best friends are ultimate Thinkers. They also sometimes "wing it", for reactions. Repeat opinions, analyses, scientific data to back it up. Usage of formal words to add weight. I applaud Thinkers capacity for theoretical advantages and pattern analyses (even in human behavior); and learned a lot from the interactions through such discussions.
I just don't agree.
I don't particularly mind it if somebody is opinionated or whose opinions are malleable. I think everyone is opinionated about many things, whereas their opinions on other things may be malleable. The main thing is that the partner is open to other opinions.
Anyway, I think I'll go for someone whose opinions are malleable since to me it's rather unhealthy if one continues to share a certain view without it ever being open to influence or change. But then I ought to admit that I have some specific opinions that I'm not willing to change.
"A woman having an opinion is like a man having a womb. Leave the opinions to the men." Says no one in this day and age.
Joking aside, I like a partner who has her own opinions, and stands by them, though she should still be open minded.
It goes both ways.
I have strong opinions, but the great thing about my girlfriend, her opinions have changed mine, and vice versa.
It's kept me grounded, and keeps me from making a fool of myself. It's given me another point of view.
She's more to the left, and I'm more to the right.
It's okay if my partner and I don't agree on everything, but understanding must be present. I will not be with someone who only sees from their perspective and doesn't respect the opinions of others. Stubbornness is not a turn on for me. I like having someone I can debate with but someone who refuse to talk things out without an argument, refuses to imagine what it's like in someone else's shoes is someone I wouldn't just refuse to date but even associate with. Closemindedness has no room in my life.
Certainly points are non negotiable. We sjould have similar morals and values. Others are open to debate. Compromise is key in relationships. As someone who has a life long genetic health issue, i couldn't be with someone who opposed stem cell research and universal healthcare for example. But i could be with a repulican, even though I'm Democrat. I am willing to hear different sides to every story and make up my mind and hope my partner would listen to my ideas. But some issues are too personal in my opinion.
A partner that even though has opinions is not making a goal out of changing mine.
I never thought that politics can bring damage to a relationship, but I now understand, in the light of what happened around the world in terms of politics, immigration.
There are some girls that I've met, who game me the feeling they would literally brake the relationship if we were together.
That's how exaggerated and "opinionated" they were.
I don't care about changing opinions either.
I just say mine, you say yours and then we can have a nice hot fuck on the kitchen counter. That's the person I want.
well established opinion doesn't mean opiniated. Opiniated usually isn't a well established opinion but rather a person who has judgments that are usually wrong and won't budge from them no matter the facts.
A well established opinion is an opinion that relies on logic and is changeable by logic only and has goodthought behind before uttering any stupidity like the opiniated person.
So yeah I want a partner who has a well established opinion but not an opiniated partner neither a partner with easily changeable opinions
I'd rather be with someone who is open minded and can change their mind if new information presents itself, not a stubborn, closed minded person who sticks to their opinions no matter what. I find those people very annoying and often they are quite stupid as well.
Please do not conflate being cultured or intellectual with being opinionated. Many people are opinionated but that doesn't make them smart or good people, usually it's the opposite.
I find heavily opinionated people are harder to get along with, make you feel more on guard, are less sympathetic, and will often go out of their way just to argue with people.
One of the smartest opinions I've read on this site.
You know while I am still attracted to women to date, I then just stand there and think and reflect on all the bull$hit of being with a woman and I start changing my mind about the whole thing.
Actually, now I prefer her to speak a foreign language so that I cannot understand that much.
Therefore, it does not matter to me if her opinions are strong or malleable.
I would like to have a partner that is interested and curious about philosophical, political and social issues and have well thought out opinions. However, they should be able to have reasonable, nonjudgemental conversations about their opinions and be open to facts and new information and reconsider or solidify their stances without throwing a tantrum.
I want her to have her own set of core beliefs & principles but I ant her to be open minded all kinds of experiences & intellectual concepts. We should be able to talk about & debate anything never knowing which one of us will gain new perspective on the topic.
I prefer someone who isn't afraid to change opinions IF he isn't afraid of new evidence or information and thinks critically about it. I don't want someone to change opinions just because he's wishy-washy or under pressure or undue influence.
I also don't want someone who refuses to change opinions out of pride or stubbornness or ego.
I think both are bad under certain circumstances. For instance if their opinion is backed by hard facts, then yes I want them to have a well established opinion, but I would also want them to be malleable in that if new information comes to light then you should be able to change your opinion with it. I wouldn't want them to be pig headed and hold onto an opinion that is clearly wrong just as I wouldn't want them to change their opinion based upon the moment. Moderation and balance is key.
In between, I don’t want someone who is incapable of being educated and being willing to change their opinion when proven wrong. I think it’s important people grow and that means our thoughts sometimes change.
But I’d not want someone who always agreed with me just because
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Someone who has their own values and beliefs is always something I admire. But I appreciate one who isn't closed minded and is able to humble themself in learning new view points, as well as immerse themselves in learning from diffrent people and sources.
i voted for B because if a person has a well-established opinion and thinks he's doing something right when he's not, then he needs to change and correct what he's doing wrong and not be an idiot by still trying to prove that his mistake is correct even when evidence proves him to be wrong. it's like trying to convince flat-earthers that the earth is round. but they still think that earth is flat and think of new lame and stupid reasons, no matter how much proof you show them lols.
I would rather have someone who hasn't heard about an issue yet, because I love being a teacher. I'm confident I can explain the various sides of an issue at least basically, and I would wait for her to ask my opinion so she has a chance to form her own before we discuss it.
That's how it usually went in my last relationship anyway
It's only healthy to change your opinions on things if you learn something new. But the ground thinking is something that should be consistent. It is unattractive and shows a lack of intelligence if someone fully changes their way of thinking just because of a trend or a person.
Need a partner who is a bit of both. He should be firm about his opinions on things he knows, i. e. if he is a doctor he should be sure of a diagnosis of an illness, it would be very odd of he was unsure, it would mean he is not very good at his job and leans on others too much, but he ought to be unsure of himself with other things and not too full of himself about how wonderful he is.
I mean its good to have opinions not to ask someone about something and they go "idk", but i like someone who is open minded like someone who has an opinion on something but is not strongly opinionated that they try to squeeze into you what they beleive is true.
I think you should have rather asked you question in a way either strongly opinionated or open minded
I think that everyone should have their own set of standards for their life. However I also think that evolving as a person and learning how to be malleable is very important as well. The think about being in a relationship is that people should be able to empathize with and understand each other. To be able to do so I think that we need to be a little bit malleable in our view of the world.
I chose other. I want my partner to know what their opinions are but I also want them to be able to change their views. This is because if my partner had an opinion that I or she couldn't live with, then I would want to be able to try and change her mind.
Everyone has something they believe in, however I'd appreciate a truly mature person who can either agree to disagree and are indifferent to the majority or even my beliefs or someone who ultimately is able to change or see it the way others might, so long as you're a decent person, no one really cares however the way society works is if you believe the wrong thing, you're not a good person or are a snake in the grass for some reason.
Everyone respects someine decisive who isn't easily influenced. However if that person is argumentative, doesn't let stuff go, has to be right, no one is going to put up with that. I'm not going to be OK with someone who feels the need to hassle. That's a sign of weakness on their part.
Ideally, I'd like a girl who had solid opinions of her own prior to meeting me, but also just happened to agree with me on most things that are important.
I suppose the second best thing would be a girl whose opinions could be influenced by me. Although there's something I find distasteful about girls who can't think for themselves, it would still be better than an opinionated girl who disagreed with me on everything.
Not sure. My partner has well established opinions and mine can be changed. I think I wanna be with someone flexible who is open to new ideas and viewpoints, doesn't only insist on their own viewpoint. I'm all for being open minded and thinking out of the box.
I would like my partner to have an opinion on any topic but one that is researched and backed up well. I still want him to be open to listening to other people's opinions and to try and see where they're coming from. Maybe later go and reconsider their opinions on some topics. But only after he gave it dome time and thinks his own opinion over well.
I'd rather they know what they stand for and believe in. That shown a strong will and developed person at least.
Although if there was a key disagreement between us. And there was 0 chance of changing her views. I would prefer not date her just cause of that. I mean if it's significant enough.
Well opinionated, provided the opinions are built on facts and are authentic and not just a put up to seem knowledgeable or are copied from other people in this world.
Also with a chilled attitude if my opinions differ from him
Hopefully we can learn from each other and understand the various possibilities before forming an opinion.
Date a liberal or conservative? ok lol
I go for the liberal then since it's easier to mess with her thoughts.
The conservative one is harder than the liberal. But still easy.
-conservative, but liberal lol
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I don’t like people who aren’t open to excepting new ideas or seeing others points of view, but I don’t want them to be super susceptible to anyone being able to change their mind on literally anything, because that’s what children are. Super impressionable.
It's all about open-mindedness. It's amazing when a person has the heart and mind to consider different things that they might not specially relate to.
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I’d say a bit of both are good. You don’t want someone who’s easily influenced by everything but you also don’t want someone who’s stubborn.
It’s important to be able to listen to others opinions and understand the reasoning behind it, doesn’t mean you have to agree with it tho.
I rather have a combination. Besides, if I could sway her opinions easily then she is not the person I was initially attracted to.
But I only want her to change her opinion because it is logical and she came to the conclusion... not because I want her to.
I voted A because I do want a partner that has a firm grasp of their views (should know the difference between right and wrong and most views should be relatively similar to my own), however their views and opinions should be able to adapt given enough evidence.
"Have firm opinions held loosely."
"Opinions are like assholes in that everyone has one. I encourage you to thoroughly examine yours."
Depends on their said opinions. If it's ignorant I don't want the Backfire Effect everything I mention something opposing. And when I say ignorant I mean things like "climate always changes" or " the earth is 10,000 years old". But if they are scientifically factual opinions, then they can be grounded on them if they want.
There are some people who change their minds whenever someone who has influence over them tells to change their minds. They may have low self esteem and fear of failure. Then there are some people who don't listen to anyone. They have rigid and unhealthy pattern of thinking. Both of them are dangerous. The person should be opionated and partially malleable.
A bit of both cause people who can adapt are the best and adapt there opinions, but it is also good to have strong opinons, but i guess it could be relaxing been with someone who don't really have opinions, but that could be boring.
I want my partner to be opinionated because in life it's not just black and white I'd love to have a partner who I can bounce my ideas off of and get intelligent opinions and it's always good to get another perspective on things I don't know everything and I'm not always right so sometimes it's good to look at things to Fresh eyes
I want a man who will place truth above all else. That sometimes means letting go of previous ideas when faced with more information. A man who can do that gains my utmost respect.
"When the facts change, I change my mind"
I hope she's as smart and reasonable as I hope I am.
If I find evidence that warrants revising my opinions, then I revise my opinion and that's what everybody should do.
They’re both bad. I want a person who’ll consider other sides and change when they find something better, but hold fast to their beliefs if they think they’re right, even under pressure. There’s a word for this. It’s called integrity.
It depends on the topic, if its something such as abortion where we disagree, then id hope I could change their opinion, but if its something such as murder is bad, I don't want their opinion to be malleable in that situation.
If your mind cannot be changed by reasonable argument, then you're an unreasonable person.
It takes strength of character to do your own research and genuinely listen to opposing views. Any halfwit can be stubborn.
i want someone who's opinions can be changed by proof and facts. the worst thing is someone who has strong opinions that no amount of discussion can change even a smidge
If someone is not open to changing their views based on evidence then they are bigoted or stupid or both.
There's nothing wrong with having fixed principles but opinions and views are a different matter.
An open mind is almost always superior to a closed one, and demonstrates confidence enough to question and adapt one's beliefs. A person who is defensive and cannot consider another point of view without feeling threatened is weak. But if one puts their honest, well supported beliefs aside to go with the flow, that is also weakness, of the more obvious kind.
I'd rather have a partner who knows how to use facts and reason to make decisions (and to adjust when necessary) than one who is locked in a dogma or who can't make decisions at all.
I would want a woman who's strongly opinionated but I'd want her opinions to be fact based and logical. I don't want to spend my days losing arguments to an idiot.
Yeah logically speaking it's impossible to win an argument with an idiot.
Somebody with their own opinions, but who is open to persuasion.
Opinionated. It's good to be open to new ideas but someone who was constantly changing their opinion on topics would lead me to doubt their sincerity and ability to think for themselves.
If their opinions can be swayed, it means they take your own into consideration, which is what I think to be a sort of open-mindedness everyone could benefit from.
I think if u really love your partner you should always expect from him/her to have establish his/her opinion, becoz I think you all should get a chance to express strong and firm opinion , and the opinion is changing quite frequently it's a very dangerous personality disorder
there can be no personal growth without malleability. there can be no strenght of character without stable opnions. an awesome person can have both at the same time.
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