Do you support gender roles in relationships?

[ItsAMeA]

Do you support gender roles in relationships?

Yes, I think a man has his obligations and a woman has hers.

No, I don't think that men and/or women are "meant" to fulfill any roles.

Other. (Please specify in the comments)

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[Holistic]

I don't support them. Gender roles may apply to many couples, but there are too many exceptions for this to apply to everyone. Traditional gender roles require the man to be dominant; however, this is really not the case for my relationship, nor will it ever be for any future ones. I'm not a dominant person by nature, and I wouldn't like to feel pressured to act as such. People in relationships should decide their "roles" based on their chemistry and personality, rather than feeling obliged to stick to a rigid stereotype. If a couple is comfortable with having roles that coincide with traditional gender roles, that's fine. It just shouldn't be an expectation.

[tslater]

I think there are things that women do better than men and things that men do better than women, that said I also think that there isn't necessarily a clear cut fail safe way to do a relationship. Every relationship is unique and that requires a dynamic that's unique.

[Logical_Idolist]

Absolutely. Allow me to explain. Women and men will never be equal. Simply for the basic fact that there biological differences. These differences are what separates males and females. So I do believe in gender roles. There are things females can do more efficiently than males and vice versa.

[Logical_Idolist]

There are*

[NorthwestRider]

You were brainwashed by a religion

[Logical_Idolist]

I'm not religious. I'm an Atheist.

[NorthwestRider]

Only the religious freaks support gender roles because they hate women

[Logical_Idolist]

I am very against religion lol

[name_is_eric]

Respect.

[Logical_Idolist]

Thank you @name_is_eric

[name_is_eric]

@Logical_Idolist Absolutely. The world needs more women like you, who carry themselves with grace. Women, who see the world clearly.

[Logical_Idolist]

Seems like great minds think alike @name_is_eric

[Ganta2Igarashi]

Thank you for putting this clear 👍🏼

[adidas0169]

I 100% agree with you.

[daftwous]

Can you give some examples? You have the chance to convince me ;)

[Logical_Idolist]

All it takes to convince you is telling you one thing males are more efficient at doing.

Males are more successful at committing suicide due to the simple fact that males take more risks, are biologically stronger, and lack the sense of carefulness that women naturally possess.

[daftwous]

You are talking in numbers I think, that doesn't reinforce your case. I also think it's a poor choice for an example. Can't you do better?

[Logical_Idolist]

My premise is that men and women aren't, and will never be, equal. That was a perfect example. It goes to show how different men and women are. Both are even immensely diverse in brain chemistry.

[daftwous]

The point you are making is that if more guys are good at something than girls, this automatically applies to all people. And like I said it's a poor choice for an example. I guess you could conclude that women are better at lingering in their depression... But I don't want to call that successful..

[TomGarand]

We are equal in value, but not in function. I understand that there are biological differences.

But what about men and women who don't want to adhere to gender roles in relationships?

[anmari2001]

Everybody got their own way, if they want to follow gender roles, okey
If they don't okey
I personally wound like to be obligated to do certain things only because of my gender, but if you give me the choice to make it or not then we are talking

[anmari2001]

Wouldn't like to*

[ecfresh]

Of course, and that’s the point. There are roles and as long as both people communicate and work together then the couple is successful. They should be fluid and fit to each relationship. It’s 2019 so the days of strict rules are over.

[anmari2001]

Yeah they are over

[MzAsh]

Nah, not for me but if someone else wants to apply them then knock yourself out.

[stardust101]

I honestly don’t support gender roles anymore. Call me a feminist I don’t really care. The fact is, when it comes to “gender roles” there are more responsibilities for women than there are men and it becomes slavery for me, women take care of kids (feed them, bath them, go shopping for them, spend all day taking care of them or if she works, she comes home and takes care of the kids and cooks and cleans while he plops himself down in front of the tv after work. On the weekends, he does his hobbies and tinkers around in the garage hammering away not really having an agenda at times while she’s taking care of the kids still. And I noticed that men do clean, but they only clean their vehicles and the garage and then walk into the house and kick their shoes off in the middle of the living room floor. Who picks them up? She does. And also, he rarely cleans up after himself. Perhaps he mowed the lawn once a week and empties the trash one time a day, that still doesn’t make up for the fact that she does more work because of “gender roles.” Sigh

[NYCstreetPhotog]

OK, that's one skewed example of gender roles, but the same thing could be said about the ancient roles of the sexes. You know, where women were nothing more than property, and being raped by a man meant you had to marry him... Times, along with roles change. Hell you wouldn't go to a barber to get a root canal, but a hundred years ago that was part of their role.

Simply put, I think role inherently exist, but evolve as society does.

[stardust101]

@NYCstreetPhotog where have you been? Women are STILL viewed as property because we’re viewed as sex objects... a sex machine... a masturbation took because men seem to have forgotten that we’re human too! And I don’t see any of this changing.

[stardust101]

Tool not took

[NYCstreetPhotog]

I don't think you have your eyes open, if you don't see it.

There are inherent positives and negatives to every possible situation. Do men lust after women, thus objectifying them? Yes. Do women objectify men? Againg, yes. Do women take care of children? Yep, but so do modern men. Are there slobish men who think the woman should "make me a samich!"? Yeah, but they are a dieing breed, and equity amoungst the sexes has improved greatly over the generations of the past.

It can be easy to fixate on the negative, and excuse the positive out of hand. A truly open mind accepts both exists, and sees the improvement over time.

[stardust101]

@NYCstreetPhotog since you agree that men view women as sex objects, then a sex object is basically just a tool to be used, hence, why men don’t respect women and THAT isn’t just for the dying breed. It’s a form of misogyny, because men hate women that they can’t have sex with and sex is pretty much a woman’s primary function to men. Ugh!

[NYCstreetPhotog]

AND I also pointed out that women can and do treat men the same way, but you decided that didn't agree with your narrative so you glossed over it. Look, I'm not trying to change your mind, but it's apparent that you have taken up this view based on experience, thus flipping it in order to enact some ill fated revenge.

Actions like this breed discontent and drives a wedge between people. In an old addage, "violence begets violence" the same can be applied to this situation.

Frankly, I'm sorry someone in your life hurt you, but acting like a victim requiring reprehension, won't fix anything.

[angelospetlis]

Exactly, I don't know why so many people keep supporting the "gender roles" shit

[SueAnon84]

A. Just because when I think of the olden times (maybe 1950s give or take a few decades) the woman was clearly the child bearer and homemaker. The man "brought home the bacon" and taught his sons manly life skills and sports like baseball and the woman taught her daughters how to sow and cook and clean stuff around the house! She taught them how to make various beautiful dresses! Then when instituionalized schooling happend, it was STILL pretty much like this! At least they weren't confused and you didn't have boys trying to wear make up or wearing dresses! The head cheerleader was STILL a teeange girl! The Head football player was still a guy! Prom was still cool and nice! There was still chivalry! <--Not that there isn't now but I just feel it's more rare! ... There was elderly respect... People still mostly waited till marriage to have sex! Of course there were more Christian/Catholic families and or Mormon's Protestants what have you... but still! I just miss the innocence and the more solid roles that people had back then! Also, you don't have some bitter men doing the MGTOW and calling ALL women Feminists and hating them for no reason! They like to lump a lot of the single genders together and it makes me sick with disgust! Thanks for asking...

[NorthwestRider]

The 1950s were lame

They had far less freedom back then than today

[SueAnon84]

@NorthwestRider Well yes in a lot of ways, it was also bad. We didn't have the civil rights movement till the 60s (Interracial marriage and dating was still forbbiden and the owning of houses for minorities was still in the works)!

Some people still don't have a lot of freedom! I think in countries where women are treated as second class citizens and or the poor live in really dangerous conditions!

... I guess no matter what decade you're from or what age, morality comes down to the individual!

... I guess one thing that WAS good back then was that houses and cars were a lot cheaper! :-) I don't know, I just think that having more defined roles for your life makes your life easier in a sense! :-)

[NYCstreetPhotog]

Yes! Very much so! I expect the woman I'm with to be a woman, and I am the man.

Let me clarify, equality doesn't exist. Equity is what's important, not equality. It's what you offer the other people in your life, the diversity, the beauty, not, I repeat not everything being equal and homogenious.

Did I and my ex do things on par with each other? Yes, we both worked, had our own interests, did housework, made meals, took care of the dog, etc. But, we weren't equals! We both put in the same amount of equity, but there were things I did better than her, and things she did better than me. When the fore fathers spoke of equality they meant in a legal aspect, not in a societal one, they didn't expect people to twist their words into some idiotic message that everyone is the same and diversity should be abolished.

In the united states, Hollywood's movies depictalmost a perfect percentile demographic of the country; Asians are the highest paid demographic; the desparity in pay between male and female only exists because of the roles and careers the sexes naturally gravitate towards.

Is it equal that my ex be passed up for a directing role when it goes to a gay guy that knows the producer? This is rampant on Broadway, and funny enough the straight women of Broadway call it the Gay Mafia, just passing jobs around themselves. Now does this discourage my ex? Nope, she works harder. Does she give up? Not a chance! She has her vision of the future and goes towards it! Does she protest it? No, she understands that would only invalidate her struggle.

And you know what? I experience it too in photography, but I also know that my skills and my eye will eventually validate me.

There is always someone better than you, you will never be equal, strive to grow personally, and find beauty in the diversity.

[Cherokeehp]

Gender roles are bullshit. Every individual person has their own weaknesses and strengths, desires and fears, interests and dislikes. There are strong women. There are sensitive men. There are cowardly women and brave men. There are men who can cook. There are women who can build. There are all types of men and women with all sorts of traits, qualities, and skills. Gender roles just put limits on what a person should do. If you’re good at something then you should do it. If you’re a man and a fashionista then you should go do it. If you’re a woman and you’re a great mechanic then go do it. Just do the stuff that makes you happy. If you wanna be a housewife then go do it. If you wanna be a hardworking man and provide for your family then do it.

[311WasAnInsideJam]

The typical roles don't work in this economy. Unless every nuclear household made a 6-figure salary.

Besides, the nuclear family is dead; Dad ain't getting any raises because boss man is cutting corners, mom isn't home in the house they just took out a second mortgage on cooking dinner because she's working another double shift, and junior isn't getting that athletic scholarship to Notre Dame because he's going just barely getting by in a defunct public schooling system that sets kids up for failure.

Welcome to the jungle.

[Jamie05rhs]

Someone who gets it. Thank you.

[NyfikenSyd]

Really guys? Really? I'm ashamed of the numbers.

People in a relationship complement each other. It doesn't mean to do everything together, but to assume a person should do a specific thing only because of gender is plain ignorant. Show some respect for your partner.

[NorthwestRider]

They are sexist religious freaks who think women are second class citizens

[Aguysopinion4799]

No, I don't believe in roles, I think that in a relationship, either gender is free to have whichever role suites their relationship, that's their personality and they love each other for their personality traits, so why insist on a specific gender having the exact roles?

[s_alj04]

In a way yeah, but at the end its down to equality. For example if the man works a job i think its only fair the woman is in charge of household duties and vice versa. But women tend to be better at household chores and taking care of kids and men usually are better and can work more dangerous jobs. But if the couple wants a vice versa im not judging at all! It might be more beneficial you never know for them specifically

[kaylaS91]

Sure.
There’s nothing inherently wrong with gender roles seeing as how it’s been proven time and time again that there’s a difference in psychological/biological strengths when comparing males with females.

It’s important to distinguish roles from obligations, though. No one should be forced into doing it if they don’t want to but I mean.. since these roles came to be for a reason, it makes sense to stick to them 9 times out of 10.

[sawno]

I support them but ultimately its what works with the couple and is highly dependant on the jobs.
If he has a hard exhausting 40 hour per week job then it is only natural she does the house work.
If she has the hard working exhausting 40 hour per week job its only natural he does the house work.
If its a combination of part-time jobs then they both do the household.
All of the above tends to work well.

[madamina]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with traditional male and female roles. There are things men are better at than women inheriantly, the same goes for women. I find it funny when people get upset over this issue. Relationships can be non traditional also, but that it between the couple to find what works for them.

[SkipStop]

Absolutely. It's in our nature to perform what we call "Gender Roles". It's part of evolution and have existed for thousands of years. Only recently liberals decided to screw things up and lead to the destruction of families. Traditional / Conservative values are the best for society.

[NorthwestRider]

This is not Saudi Arabia buddy or the 19th century

[SkipStop]

@NorthwestRider No. It will be this wag forever. We are hardwired to be best at our own gender roles.

[SkipStop]

Way*

[NorthwestRider]

Says who, your fake sky daddy lol

[SkipStop]

@NorthwestRider I don't have a sky daddy. I have a human daddy.

[hahahmm]

Yes. If she wants access to my resources, attention, protection, she has obligations to meet. If she’s too lazy or self centered then it won’t work. Amen to traditional relationship. For a relationship where there is no commitment then none of this matters

[kortex]

I think each person should do what they know the best. If the mens is better at cooking than the woman , why should she cook for him. She can like , do other things to help out. Or they can do it together. I don't think there is specific gender roles on a relationship...

[BluesheepOwl]

I don't know a dominant guy is pretty sexy but I wouldn't be cool doing everything in the house while he sat there staring at me. It would be cool if we shared responsibilities and we both appreciated each other for our hard work. It shouldn't be taken for granted and expected.

[ShadowofRegret]

I think it depends on the individuals involved, those who want to adhere to them can, and those who do not are not required to do so, I personally do not want a relationship based around traditional gender roles as I prefer a dominant woman who goes after what she wants, and does what she wants.

[SomeGuyCalledTom]

I think typical gender roles should be the norm until agreed otherwise.

Every relationship must be negotiated and renegotiated over time.

If a traditional gender role serves that particular relationship at a particular time, then it would be foolish to throw it out. If it doesn't serve the relationship, then the gender role can be swapped out for some other role that "fits" the relationship better.

[Ganta2Igarashi]

I am just old school when it comes to this my dream household is me getting the money home and the wife cooking, cleaning, washing and raising the kids but that doesn't mean that I wouldn't help or that I wouldn't allow my wife to work just as long as we both do our role in the household anything extra goes

[SallyW]

No, gender does not determine ability. It should be whoever is available to do the task, each person should be willing to do what it takes get it done. I hear a lot of complaints about men not doing childcare, but the reality is, guys do raise children and they also cut the grass, repair the car, shovel the snow etc... there is no reason any woman can not do these things too.