It has always been my belief that sexual experience difference is actually very important in a relationship for scenarios exactly like this. It becomes toxic as one person will always think that they're inferior and will be forced to imagine their partner with a partner that has given them better sex. Realistically, it will depends on the individuals physical ability/coordination and sexual inclination to adapt to their partner's sexual expectations/standards. It could take you a few weeks if you were born a sex god; it could take you a year or a few years if you're a regular person that has sex with their partner regularly and if you're born sexually inept, you might never give her sex as good as she's had in the past. It's all up to you perceive your place in the relationship.
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Asker+1 yUpvoted. Agreeable answer.
But the question was how can he reach her level of experience of 14 years in just few years. It seems impossible. Just like a person has to study for 15-16 years to get the phd degree... n a child can't reach that it in 2 years without going through the primary n secondary education. I. e he too would have to go through same phase
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+1 yI disagree because good sex aka lovemaking is an art.
Do you know how to play a musical instrument? Or cook? Or play chess?
Like sex, they all have a common denomination to be good at: practice.
At beginners level, a lot of wrong notes; unpalatable food; and never seem to win. And the learner is easily discouraged.
But once the person becomes an amateur, no one can tell whether if he plays correctly or not because the music just sounded good; the food is tasty and he wins most of the time.
Likewise for sex, when he gets past the learners level, he is on par with her and as long as she orgasms, he becomes a great lover.
(Time and body count is no longer a factor, except for making him jealous, during quarrels.)118 Reply
Asker+1 yThe question was not about getting experienced later.
The question was about how long will it take for the husband who was inexperienced virgin to reach to her level. And will he ever reach that level... which the wife gained in 14 years.
I too have an analogy to justify...
That is... consider a person who is a PHd holder who reach that level after studying 15-16yrs of study right from primary education to PHD..
So now can a student who is in class 5 reach to that Phd level in 2 years which takes 15yrs for people n cannot jump to Phd level from class 5 ?
No, because he too would have to go trough all the phases that the wife went, n he can jump to Phd level on 1-2yrs... n above that she gained that level after sleeping with variety of men... but this husband cannot sleep with others now afyer mariage, so he cannot reach to her level. Thats impossible. He would be always be inferior n hen packed forever... unless she allows him to sleep around after marriage to get to her level. Even than it would take 14 years- +1 y
The difference between my analogy and yours is,
Mine is about artistic progress, governed by the individual's passion.
Yours is about institutionalised academy. There is no shortcut. Hence even if the person already qualify to get a PhD, it will not be awarded until the motion is through.
Sex doesn't need approval nor exams. The guy may take 9 months to learn how to being his wife to heavens every time they fuck; or he may just be uninterested and piss his wife off where sex is concerned his entire life.
Asker+1 yI fully agree that he may learn mostof things by nine months.
But what I am saying is he cannot reach to her level of experience, because he now cannot sleep with tons of partners to gain different skills of different people which she learned from others. He can only experience those acts which sje likes now, it may be only missionary now, so it won't take much time for the husband to expertise in missionary... but can he expertise in other postisions? Nno, because that won't be like by the wife because she has lost those interest aftergetting old... but liked with her different exes. Even missionary is the one which he has to learn now, the wife has nothing to learn as she knows it after having it with tons of men. So he can't have special experience with her. She would only be like a teacher who would order him... as he is inexperienced. Think feeply. Then it will strike. Again she may nor like to have as many sex with him now like she had with her exes as she might have been bored or her interest might have changed, so the husband would have to be satisfied with the shorter end of the stick, while the exes got the best of her... n she too got to enjoy the best of her intimacy with many men, such that she has nothing new or special left to experience with husband together, so he only can be her inferior
Asker+1 yAnd for a man it would be like a feeling of shame that he will lose in front of his wife... n so the wife will also not respect or think of him like manly... like she did n considered with her exes
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Mathematically speaking, you raise so many assumptions.
Since 2020, Google is learners best friend. Sex included. And with a wife, he has practice ground.
Even at menopause, a woman still enjoy sex, as long as he knows how to give her orgasms.
He had failed if she hated sex and that marriage becomes sexless.
But many guys learned the art and pleases his wife, making her HIS nympho. This is not an assumption. Go to forums like TheMarriageBed and you see this is true to many couples, including virgin guy marrying experienced girl.
I'm not saying all guys in your question premise will succeed. But I'm sure, based on my personal experience as a guy who lives a sex-filled lifestyle for more than a decade, it is possible.
Asker+1 yAgain, you mistook me. I am not saying that the husband won't be able to satisfy her... he may be able to.
But what he will never acheive is that he would never reach to her level of experience, nor will he get to experience variery of sex n know difference between others n wife. And he will have less expectation asitshis first time and hewill be satisfied with anything he gets... but the wife won't get satisfied with inexperienced sex as she will have much much high expectation. So untill someone brings some exception acts and experience for her she won't be much interested or excited about it. Think deeply. Analogy goes this way. A person who has tasted all dishes n and many tastiest dishes all around the world, for her a small normal tasting meal would not be any special... she would have it just to fill her stomach.. n due to being hungry... but not has it excitedly or enjoyfully
Asker+1 ySimilarly, the wife may have sex with him as her sexual needs.. but not enjoy it or exitedly... because ahe has the experience of different partners who might be much better than him
Asker+1 yN Google is not the solution to every problem. A couple can't stop in the middle n search on google about things... by the time their urges would be over then
Asker+1 ySorry if I said any wrong
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"never reach to her level of experience... the wife won't get satisfied with inexperienced sex..."
This is the part I like to ask if you're a musician in an orchestra, not piano?
Likely not, I think. This is because I played as an amateur amidst professionals before. Its not how "good" we all are. But how much "passion" we have. Do you understand the feelings of the three musicians in Titanic before it sank? I do.
This is where art is different from academic. I'm a software architect hence I know what you're talking about in logic. But you don't understand what I means by an art and passion.
This is where the couple may reach the same level of pleasure despite a decade of difference in experience. Its about the harmony of the duet, able to "play in concert" literally.
No. I refer to Google outside the bedroom, like studying for my degree.
But inside the bedroom, it's ok to play a few wrong notes. What is important is not the styles or the experience.
Its the intimacy, the passion and the connection amidst the differing in skills and technique.
This is more than sex. Its lovemaking.
Asker+1 yHow do you know that the wife did'nt make love with others n wasonly sex? She may even have had many love making with her exes some of whom she really loved. so those feeling automatically might have came to her.
So even love making is any new thing for her. Whereas for the husband its a completely new n experienced terms where he would say those magical words forfirst time, n butterfly going in stomach.. new feeling. unlike his wife for whom its just yet another repitition of sane acts that she has been doing till now.
Yes she may say to her husband that she is happy and also saythat heis the best... but who knows the truth? She may lie to not hurt him by saying the truth that her exes were much better than him in all departments. So he would have tobelieve that n would never know tge complete truth. Whereas its natuaral human acts to compare a similar experience which they had it before, and its automatic. the moment she start intimacy, her mind will automatically work n compare the husband saying " his organ is much smaller than your past ones, n matches to someof your exes as well" , so she can't stop that
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Again you said "This is where art is different from academic. I'm a software architect hence I know what you're talking about in logic. But you don't understand what I means by an art and passion" . Yes its about passion. The husband too may think that he is passionate and he is happy n satisfied n better than others n may also thonk that his wife is the best, but he does'nt know that his wife may not think that he is the best because she has practically experience with many other better men, so she can't lie to herself. So, even here the husband losses in this field.
Their vast didference will always stay forever... n the husband would always be the student, learner, inferior, slave, victim, loser, low level, in the field of sex n intimacy whereas the wife would always be the boss, Teacher, Queen, Superior, n dominator always.
Thats logical n practical. Its human practice.
A teacher would always be a teacher no matter how high the student flies one day. Simlarly even if hypothetically the husband ever reaches to her level, yet he would be called a student in front of his wife's eyes... n woukd always have to stay under his wife... like hen packed. Thats like a trap. Those exes some day in efrect of alcohol may someday meet this husband in the street n may pass comment about how well they banged his wife for free before they dumoed her, n she only went to him because they rejected her finding her unsuitable for marriage, otherwise she would never have seen to him, then he would have to hung his head in shame in front of the exes without complaining as he can't do anything.:
Asker+1 yAlso she might have slept with them because she loved her exes so much that she voluntarily submitted her to them with any fear of commitment.. whearas the husband gets the last treat ment. So in all cases the only person at loss is the poor husband , as the wife n the exes has nothing to lose as they already enjoyed everything freely n she has nothing to hide from them as they saw all her parts n even got to use it for free n they now may be married with their beautiful wives and has nothing to feel shame in front of this husband as their wives didn't sleep with this husband. So even they would be feel superior in front of him always
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My assumption: They have sex regularly for their "honeymoon year";
"the husband its a completely new n experienced terms" -- Within my premise, the Learner is already an "amateur", hence not "completely new".
"She may even have had many love making with her exes some of whom she really loved" -- Of course she may. In fact she may love some guys more than her husband. And she may of course compare. And statistically, the higher the "body count", the more fragile is the marriage.
But in my Musician illustration, it's NOT the composition nor the skills. If the Duet enjoys the playing together and are passionate about it, then they just enjoy, doesn't matter how many other bands or Trio or Orchestra one of them were before. It is the MOMENT, the current time of engagement that they enjoy. And when you really into lovemaking, you'll not even remember the "old times" you fuck with your current girlfriend. It was that moment that is satisfying. You may compare after that. This is the difference. (Hence I wrote earlier the jealousy is during quarrel time) - +1 y
"The husband too may think that he is passionate" -- The use of passionate here is no what I mean. It's about the passion to ENGAGE in an art. It's like a guy who learns to play a piano because his mum told him to vs another guy who learns because he finds pleasure learning and performing. The latter has passion. Same with sex. You don't think you're passionate. You engage because you and your partner just enjoy doing so, together. (Got me now?)
"Their vast difference will always stay forever" -- Logically yes. But if you watch Star Wars the Clone Wars TV Series, Anakin surpasses Obi Wan. But they remained GREAT pal and fought together until he turned Darth Vader. The more the couple make love, the more they'll know each other body. Eventually, they will have more episodes with each other than she with any other. This is where they will achieve new heights independent of size (of penis) and kinks. Even vanilla will feel good (read other G@Gers view on vanilla sex and you'll know what I mean).
Anyway, I think I'll stop here. And please don't be too logical when comes to women and sex. They are not. And being too logical, you'll feel a lot of stress and lose the joy of sex.
Asker+1 yYes I agree to your orchestra illustration, n I have no right to doubt you as you are a proffession in that department. So I respect your illustration.
But you said "They have sex regularly for their "honeymoon year";
No, not in every marriage, in some marriages the husband may be an employee of different place so he has to travel often for his office works... so in that case he can't get to enjoy honeymoon daily full year. Instead get few days, because job responsibilities are also important in personal n country's development, n thats what gives him salary to run his family. N also advances his career.
Asker+1 yYes he may think he is the best, but reality is only known by his wife. Now even if the eife only wants vsnilla n nothing else, then too he may be able to satisfy her in that act after some time of practice... but even in that scenerio he loses in comparison to her exes and his wife who are lso got to enjoys various sex acts, positions etc, and nothing is new for her... but this husband will not get anything other then vanilla because thats what his wife is interested now...
So the exes got more ftom her in bed which this poor husband will never get now he will only get the short end of the stick.
So even here he won't get to her level. And for wife she has nothing much to lrarn as she has basicslly done everything with others many times... n its just a repitition of same acts for her, nothing to be so exciting n exceptionsl unlike her husbsnd for whomeverything is new... n yes he may be able to satisfy her now because she know she won't get that level of performance like her exes... so she eill start yo settle for 2nd best.
Asker+1 yAnd "Their vast difference will always stay forever" -- Logically yes. But if you watch Star Wars the Clone Wars TV Series, Anakin surpasses Obi Wan. But they remained GREAT pal and fought together until he turned Darth Vader. " Real life is not like science fiction films like Star wars. So it doesn't work here.
This husband can live in illusion that he is his wife's best... but in reality he can't be that men... ever. His wife will always remember her best times with her exes, even though she may not want to go back to that. Yet they will always be in her top list.
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+1 yYea I don't think girls work that way. I'll give u a hint tho relax. Most of getting good in sex is learning to relax and enjoy it. It sounds easy but it's hard especially for overthinkers I can tell ur one but don't worry I am to. Just focus on her pleasure also. Try new stuff and see what she like also just ask her what she likes and if ur comfortable do it. My partner had more experience then me but I just talked to her and had better communication then all her past. I give her the best orgasims she ever have and regularly blow her mind because she like wtf how u do that but honestly I just experiment and see what works. Ull be fine don't think about the last and believe in yourself man. Most guys arnt concerned about the girl they focus on themselves so chances are most of the past guys weren't good. Also girls arnt obsessed with being superior or conquering like guys are so chill
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Asker+1 yYes thats correct.
But here the question was not about pleasuring her, thats impossible though, she would only pretend to be happy n act happy, as she already knows the diffetence between her virgin husband n others. So that not the question here.
Here the question is mathematical n probability calculation. About how long it will take for himto reach her level of experience of 14 yrs? Do you have any justified calculations. Probability- +1 y
Well mathematically no because she will gain experience with you and u both will move at a equal rate so the gap will always stay the same however that's not how sex worth. Let's say to people work out together for the same amount of time. The navist can catch up to the pro even if they work out together for the same period of time. First there a natural platou of skill and u learn fast when ur new. Also if u work in a more effective way u can reach them if if the same time is put in. Guys do the work in sex so we gain experience faster girls tend to just lay there and take whatever the guy giving. Remeber not everthing can be explained in math. Of ur room was 32 feet long and every 5 minute u walked halfway way across it u would mathematically never get to the other side. However that not what happens when practiced in reality
Asker+1 yThats not clear. Sorry.
If Ronaldo and a new football aspirant student moves a new club for practice, would their level suddenly become equal as both are new to the club? No, his Ronaldo) level of understanding, confidence, accuracy, predictions would definitly be uncomparable compared to the new player even though both are new in that ground.
Similarly , no matter both the veteran wife n virgin husband comes to the new relation... the wife's confidence, accuracy, experience, words, etc no matter if they are new to this relation. So the husband would never reach to her level in 14 days that she learned in 14 years with variety of partners... n nothing is new for her... those words like "I love you, you are the best, etc, lets go to dating/candle light dinner tonight" are said by her many timesto others so itsno new for her... similarly she might have done all sex with many people... and those acts and feelings are experienced by her many times. Its that now she has some other organs for the husband, no thats the same organ and same acts... so its already done with others too... n the husband is nothing new or special for her. Instead those exes were special who got to learn and know each other n acts together with her... but this husband has nothing to learn together... as she already has done it n experienced
Asker+1 yThink... about it
+1 yYou just gotta be sensual and, through sex sessions, get better and better. You dont need many partners. You could just have had one or a few that you fucked a lot.
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Asker+1 yYet he won't have the experience of variety... which the wife had a lot. So she woukd always be supeerior
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What if he's way more legit in the sensual area? I think many men are. He just gotta go and do until he realises he's a lot better then his uncontrollable thoughts had him out to be.
That’s a lot of assuming on your part
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Asker+1 yWhat assuming. Its mathematical. 14 years work can be completed in 14 days. Or is there any other way?
+1 yWell forever seeing he married her.
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Asker+1 ySo whats the difference? Will he ever be able to reach her levrl
Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yI would say he probably never will
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Asker+1 yThat absolutely right
Opinion Owner+1 yWhy did he wait till marriage to lose his virginity
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yI hate math.
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Asker+1 yStill you can try
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