by the way i have a girlfriend but i have to say: You have really gorgeous eyes!
But if she stops working to take care of kids then something did happen to you, she will be way behind on the career track and Stuck in some bottom feeder crap job, can’t offer them as good a life as if she had never stopped working.
Thank you, but if your a pilot your always away from home. And if she’s a working woman then manly strangers will look after your children.
Viviant, do you know that if someone with a high paying career as a pilot passes God forbid, that with life insurance she will be cared for legally. She would never have to take a bottom feeding job.
@sunshinet123well, that's why i said that if i'm married to a woman and we are both working, then she has a child and decided to become a housewife after she got the child, then i feel that's best in slot. This way no stranger will look after my children.
Thanks for MHO.Im glad i could be of help to you
I used to follow this housewife YouTuber whose husband was a police officer working in night shift. She said she used to do a 9-5 job but that made it hard for both of them to see each other because when she was home, he was out and when he got home, she was leaving for work. So she finally gave up work and decided to become a housewife even though they don't have kids so that someone can consistently look after the house and she can maximize the time she can spend with him.Honestly, even I wouldn't wanna be working outside all day if my husband was outside for a long time or in odd hours. Until there are in-laws to help, which doesn't always happen.
Also @vivant if she is a SAHM and in case she's in need of money she can work in that time. Staying at home doesn't mean you don't have any marketable skill
Do you believe the tasks of a housewives are idle? And do you believe that a women who stays home to properly raise her children instead of them being raised by school, tv strangers etc makes her not smart?
No i am not that saying that tasks of housewives are idle. I am saying that spending time alone is a very big challenge. Loneliness not only make the person dull but also it can lead to depression. In modern society nobody has the time or skill to manage all their domestic chores so i feel it's okay; However, i also feel that these things can be easily managed by hiring a maid (idk about other countries but its is far too easy in india to hire labour) and you can work on your self goals or value adding subjects that you really enjoy spending your time on for e. g. Writing, working out etc.
But if a women has children and invests in them academically why would she be lonely or bored?
Aren't schools an appropriate option for that? I think it's very important for a child to develop his mind overall and not just academically. Also it's not practical to teach certain subjects that require expertise.
My point is after a certain period of time ( years or months) there are limits to one can do for someone but everyone can do something they love over number of years
Teachers are very underpaid and few have the time and resources to give your child individual attention. and they can teach your child as they will such as immoral topics like the current sex education curriculum which is mandatory in some states. Academically you can teach your child reading by age 2 and morally you can direct them better
It's not about what your husband wants or not. What do you want? What should your career look like? Do you really want to be satisfied with so little?
Good for you don’t let anyone belittle what makes you happy. Not every woman is satisfied with a career. And it’s not little to those who get to spend time with loved ones instead of more time with coworkers and bosses who stress you out and you don’t like.
If you are happy with it I think that's completely fine. It would not be my way. I don't want to be financially dependent and I've worked too hard for my degrees. But consider what your life would be like if your husband left you and you have nothing or very little to show professionally. No one will give you a job if the only thing you can say is "I'm a mother and a housewife!"
@Satu16 I like staying home with my kids. They need their mother, i gave birth to them and it's my responsibility to raise them. I would never sit their and pay a daycare my whole check every month just so I can say I worked. I'd much rather get to spend everyday with them and have no professional work experience. I value my life as more then a 9-5, like I want to acutally live not just go through the motions like everyone else does. And by the way if my husband leaves me I litterally get everything. All our stuff and the kids so I not too worried about that. There are a lot of programs for single moms, I could easily get a job if I ever wanted too.
@apple1996 As I said if you are happy with it then that's fine.Both of my parents always worked full time and were always there for us unconditionally. My mother went back to work three weeks after giving birth to me. And we were never looked after by others (we never had to go to one of these dirty kindergartens) My parents are my heroes, my idols, my best friends, my everything. I adore them and I will raise my kids the way the raised me.
As I said if you are happy with it then that's fine.Both of my parents always worked full time and were always there for us unconditionally. My mother went back to work three weeks after giving birth to me. And we were never looked after by others (we never had to go to one of these dirty kindergartens) My parents are my heroes, my idols, my best friends, my everything. I adore them and I will raise my kids the way the raised me.
The laws are set up that housewives get paid and cared for regardless even after divorce. And it’s ok to be working women with degrees but it’s better to have a man ready to take care of you in times of need such as when you are sick and unable to work job loss etc. But if he relies on half of your check you can never have time off.
That may be, but why am I as a woman entitled to rely on his money? That's unfair. And if I rely on half of his money, he can never have time off too. We both are adults and partners and each adult should finance his / her own life. In my eyes, women abuse men as the breadwinner and they are the only ones who advantage of it. They hide behind obsolete role clichés and then complain that the men don't help them with the children and the household.
@Satu16 my husband has a job where they give him more money for having a wife and a family. If he didn't have me he wouldn't have a house or and would make less then half of what he makes now. Its not like I'm freeloading off of him. He provides for me and our children. And I never make him help with the kids or anything in the house so we definitely both contribute in our own way
As I said, if this model works for both of you, nice. I think it is a bad role model for children if parents stubbornly sticks to old role clichés. It limits their independence. Girls shouldn't need a man to fix things and be able to live on their own. Boys shouldn't need a woman to run a household or cook a meal.
@Satu16 my kids dont see that kind of stuff. My husband goes away for months at a time. Everything our life gets done because I do it. I play both roles as mom and dad for them. Just because I dont work doesn't mean I'm not independent.
@Satu16 Satu. You said both your parents worked fulltime and you were never looked after by others and your mum went back to work after 3 weeks having you. Who was looking after you when both your parents were out? Did you have brothers/sisters? Or family members stayed and raised you
@Satu16 Femamist lie that a woman should be ashamed if she is a full time mom. Only a career gives purpose and contentment. It is supposedly about choice but look at you casting judgement because she chose "wrong".
@Satu16 Femanazis are gross
@Satu16 SHE ALREASY SAID SHE IS HAPPY!!!Go the F away now!
Both Apple and Satu have good points. But Apple shouldn't be criticized for being a stay-at-home mom. There is no shame in that. It is a very valuable role to play, and a child being raised by their own parent is a beautiful thing.
As I said if she is happy with it then that's fine.
@Battooot No, no family members or older siblings. Only my parents looked after me, they took me with them whenever they were out. It's all a question of organization, discipline and will.
@Satu16 they took you with them? to work? what do they do that made them allowed to bring children in? also wasn't that boring as hell for you while at their work?
@Battooot Yes, they took me with them to work. My father is a lawyer and has a very successful law chancellery. My mother is a doctor, more precisely a neurosurgeon. She works and researches in the areas of neurology, surgical procedures, prevention and early detection of brain tumors. Of course I wasn't in the operating room. (just in case someone assumes that right away)No, it wasn't boring at all. I was able to learn, discover and try out a lot there. I also had my own room with toys, pens, etc. there. Primary school was rather boring to me because I was already able to do a lot of the things they teach you there and everything was so predictable. In primary school I couldn't wait to finally study at a university so that I could work with my parents (again). I've always been very determined and ambitious. HahaAs you can see, my parents are both very highly qualified and have very demanding jobs with responsibility, and nevertheless they are the most wonderful parents ever!
@Apple1996 I am astounded how you were somewhat bullied for stating your position.
@Passinggas haha yeah I know. I guess some people really hate stay at home moms 😆😆 I doubt anyone in person would have the guts to tell me this shit
"... doubt anyone in person would have the guts to tell me this shit" That I do not doubt!
@Miristheiss Ah okay I see who does not share your opinion should shut up. If you had enough mental skills to understand my words then you would know that I have already written several times "If she is happy with it then that is perfectly fine".
@apple1996 and @PassinggasOf course I would have the guts to tell you my opinion in person. I'm not a shy little girl and I stand by my beliefs.I personally don't hate housewifes I simply don't understand how they can live a life that is so antiquated.
@Satu16 “Of course I would have the guts to tell you my opinion in person.” You might try and start but I guarantee you wouldn’t finish. It is sick the way you try to force your beliefs and control upon everyone. That is the liberal elitism; no one knows what is best for him or her and therefore you know better and by default, you are right. “how they can live a life that is so antiquated.” That is your pure arrogance assuming you know what everyone desires. How could someone not want what I have or seek, so your shallow mind wonders? Women that criticize housewives like you do simply are doubting themselves and their priorities.
@Passinggas Why wouldn’t I finish? Because I'm so scared of people like you don't liking me? HAHA, no way!And I don't try to force my beliefs or control upon everyone. You're trying to control me by telling me that I'm so wrong in your eyes.You seem to be the one who cannot accept that someone has a different opinion. That's what I call compulsion!I can guarantee you that I'm not doubting myselves and my priorities.So gradually it is getting too stupid for me to have to repeat that again and again "if she is happy with it then that's all right" Has it finally arrived this time or do I have to repeat it another 100 times? I have my opinion, you have yours. That's all!
@Satu16"You seem to be the one who cannot accept that someone has a different opinion." You’re accusing me of your first action of your criticism of Apple1996 by then attempting to ignore that and turn it on me—liberal elitism 101. “I can guarantee you that I'm not doubting myselves and my priorities.” You definitely are by attempting to make all in the herd be just like you. The only way that you can justify your position is by committee as most followers of a common mantra do. “ if she is happy with it then that's all right" well it is so comforting to know that she has your approval to live her life as she chooses—pure arrogance. Do you even have a slight clue how twisted your bloated perception of yourself is?
@Passinggas I see that nothing has arrived. A waste of time.As I assumed, you have a real problem accepting other people's opinions.And this is guaranteed to be followed by another stupid comment that is truly meant to offend me in some way. I'll tell you a secret; it doesn't work. Sorry honey, but you would have to act and argue at a higher level.
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Lazy lol as a person who worked in the childcare system and observed the treatment of children I know that if both parents are working they will be giving them up to strangers. Strangers don’t care about your children they can verbally, physically and sexually mistreat your child leaving permanent mental scars.It’s not about laziness or just cooking and cleaning it’s about being socially aware undivided investment into your children teaching them, providing organic healthy meals. Making them college ready before high school. And working 40 hours a week both parents just know no low paid teacher loves your child.
@sunshinet123 Maybe you can tell me what you think of my other standards for an SO that I have in a MyTake on y profile?
I’m sorry I don’t understand your question?
I was asking what you think of what I wrote in this: My standards for a potential SO. Wow, this got really long. ↗
I think you will never find what you are looking for. I agree with a lot of things they you said but your too extreme the amount of perfection you expect is a sign of a not normal childhood maybe the relationship with your mom was not that healthy.You have to give some grace, for example if a girl smoked pot once as a teen and never did it again she can’t be trusted? Also I understand you want to be showered with love but on a first date if you do not pay get prepared to get a lot of rejection. It’s like a women coming to a date with bad hygiene and looking a mess. And if a women who doesn’t mind paying she will probably will be the feminist type who will be against toxic masculinity.You seem to want a traditional woman with values but yet you are acting modern when it comes to dating.
@AynonOMouse , it isn't easy staying home with the kids, doing the chores, and cooking. Its actually more work and mentally draining than going to work. Think about it, if you stay home u have no adult communication. All you do is child related things (this takes away from who that woman is as a person). She becomes a mom only and her identity feels like its stripped away. I've been a stay at home mom. And I never rested. All day I cooked, cleaned, and took care of my daughter. My s/o wasn't an ATM, he was taking care of our half of our life (making money) while I took care of the other half (running our household). We aren't together but it had nothing to do with the way we ran our home. Supporting a family isn't just financial. Supporting a family also comes with coming, cleaning, laundry, dr. appointments for the baby, sitting down n budgeting for bills, taking the child to its recitals, games, PTA meetings, helping with homework, moral n mental support, etc.
Being a stay at home mom is harder than working n from experience, I've realized, I'd rather go to work than stay home.
@Imcmullan Being a stay at home partner is WAY easier. Only lazy people disagree. I can get all the home stuff done myself and make the meals done for the week and it takes less than 8 hours for the entire week. So that is only equal to ONE full day of working a job.The only people that have a difficult time with it are terrible at time management and think the hours sitting there doing nothing counts as work.And kids are easy to take care of too and manage. Heck, working in schools I had to deal with so many kids, all coming from different backgrounds with different personalities and I handled them better than anyone else there.
@sunshin123 Yeah it will be very difficult to find someone like that, even though I meet and exceed those expectations myself. The not paying for the first date thing is the easiest way to find out if she is just a gold digging user, which most are so it helps me eliminate the kind of people I wouldn't want or respect.Coming to a date with bad hygiene is a bad comparison because the guy could just as easily do that too.I don't understand why women feel so entitled to be treated much better than they treat men. They expect to not be worth much themselves but want a great guy. lol
You know that a working woman would not all house chores except she is stupid
@kim45456 well a woman would be so stupid if she really thinks that any guy will share everything 50/50.
She is not a slave. If you dont cook and clean the house, go grown up then. A grown up or an adult has to know basic survival skills. I dont wanna babysit boys like you
You are seeking for a babysitter who also earn money for you.
" well a woman would be so stupid if she really thinks that any guy will share everything 50/50." You are calling a woman for excepting from a man basic survival skills. You can like housewifes but stop calling us stupid for wanting to work and for excepting some help from our husband to do housechores after all the women is working too, so he has to do house chores too
I also talk in general?
Other men are not lazy and stupid like you
They dont need a babysitter like yoz
Kim I think you missed his point. Many men who want 50/50 actually do not do 50/50. Women will always end up caring for children and housework more than men. We are meant to nurture our children and be overly invested in them.
"I think that most men wants working women because it makes life less easier for them, more responsibilities dropped on women where she will handle thr house and the bills and everything while he just work outside or becomes a couch potato" other men dont lack survival skills and can do the half of the housechores and cooking except you are talking about mental ill peeople like you who is not capable to do cooking and cleaning. We are talking here about adults not kids
"Many men who want 50/50 actually do not do 50/50. Women will always end up caring for children and housework more than men. We are meant to nurture our children and be overly invested in them." Then make them do it. Some women just do more housechores than necassary just because they dont complain about it. I also dont think that many men are like this. You should find a nice guy who is not an asshole and let her woman do most of the housechores.
I dont except from a man do everything for me
Why are you so rude? She has right. A man should also cook and clean the house and vica versa. She is a feminist hoe only because she shows valid points? Your iq level is the same level as a kid, otherwise you would not need a babysitter and insult her like mad kid. Funny how can stand facts
You are mgtow faggot
Finally someone gets it. A lot of stupid men in here think that housework and child rearing is a fun thing to do. Plus they think housewives are a free loader. No wonder why women this days choose career over love so that we women can easily leave those jerks. They only think of themselves. They never thought of the idea that a baby needs attention and obviously a lot of men don't wanna do the changing the diapers seasons and yet complain if there wives stop working.
@Primrose21 I mostly agree with you, but in my experience the criticism of women who stay home to take care of the family and home, and the attitude that those women are freeloader... that is coming more from women than men. You should be blaming that more on women, and particularly feminists, than men.In my opinion, women who do that work very hard and are doing the most important work in the world.
Agreed I worked as an assistant preschool teacher it is best the children get more attention from mom or dad because a stranger does not love your child as much as you do. And a teacher has so many students to focus on and they are underpaid.
Why dont you quit your job? Such a selfish guy
@sunshinet123 I agree with you, and especially the part about teachers being underpaid. They are so important in the lives and development of children and they don't get paid nearly enough for what they do.
@heloooop45456 @kim45456 I'm selfish for wanting my children to be raised by a real mother instead of a daycare worker who could never love and teach them them way a real mother can? LOLNo, I'm not going to quit my job, for two reasons. First, I earn way too much to give up my salary and work only part time. I can do a lot more for my family by being a provider and making it possible for my wife and kids to live a comfortable life where all their needs are met. And second, children deserve a real mother, and only a woman can be one.
@kim45456 Note that I said "the perfect woman to me". Why are you always so childish and offensive here?
its more like you're afraid that your wife can afford to leave you cuz you've been abusing her.
That.. doesn't make logical sense. Because they got a promotion they don't want a new husband because of their new job? That's quite a jump between the premise and the conclusion.
@Coolfred you have to understand that husbands frequently think they can abuse their power over their housewives cuz he knows that she can't live without him.
@nelly83 Keep thinking all men are bad and men are the enemy and keep thinking that all women are good and all women are your friends, and see how life goes for you.
dude, if your wife loved you enough to marry you, she wouldn't leave you as soon as she starts making money. She would only leave you if you were treating her like shit. And yea, there are tons of woman hating misogynists on this website. Its no surprise if you go abusing and controlling your housewife after marriage.
I am working a decent salary right now. And I'm planning on being a working mother. I'm not gonna leave my husband if I get a promotion. I have no reason to leave him. I enjoy his company and he is the father of my children. If your wife leaves you after getting a job, it means she's not happy with you in the first place.
@nelly83 It's sad and disappointing to me that you actually believe all men are abusive and all women are victims, and it could never be the other way around. No way could a woman be the abusive one even though it happens all the time. She must have been abusing him because he was actually the abusive one! Yes, that's right. It's okay to blame the victim if the victim is a man. Everyone knows that. Good luck with your gender studies degree.
I think you need to stop victimizing men and start seeing how men can abuse their power over their housewives. Many of the men who insist their wives to stay at home, usually are misogynistic and power hungry. They make their wives feel locked up servants around the house. When he needs anything, she needs to be his servant. If he wants a foot rub, she is expected to be there. If he is unhappy with her, he can refuse to give her an allowance. She has no power to resist her husband. She has no power to leave her husband either. Leaving would be very very hard indeed especially if she's been unemployed for 10+ years. If your wife is happy married to you, she will not leave you even if she gets promoted. If you fear she will leave you, that means you know she's UNHAPPY.
I don't know why this got downvoted. I 100% agree.
Wtf it is selfish that she has to work at farm like a alave while you making caarer
@kim45456 So you think I should force her to do something that she doesn't want to do? She inherited her farm, and it is in her blood and we combined it with mine. She does exactly what she wants to do since I knew her when she was 3yo and I 4yo. She runs, manages many farm hands and when I help I am nothing more than another farm hand, repair and mechanic. Forcing and imposing your will is a sign of your own lack of fulfillment I would say. That is the ills of the lib mindset, no one knows what it good for himself or herself, and therefore an elitist knows better, right? Everyone should be like you so that therefore you are right. Also, I am not making a career, I had one before we got together. It is a good living, that’s all.
Would you be ok, if she makes caarer instead being at farm? Sorry for misunderstanding you and you really know her since she is 3-4 years old?
"I know many intense career women and they are not compatible with the concept of family which they find burdensome—just ask one." I dont think it impossible for a woman to make a caarer and have family, if she has great husband who supports her. And also how old is you girlfriend. So you know her whole life since you know her since she is a toddler
Wow i am kinda impressed. Were you guys together since childhood. How cute is that
@kim45456 Yes, we grew up together. "Would you be ok, if she makes caarer instead being at farm?" She has a career and she is good at it. It is interesting how so many hear farm and all of a sudden the visual is ignorant, toothless, hog slop-er. This is exactly what Blumberg painted the other night. That is elitism at its best. Nope, she wants to have a dozen and she isn’t planning to change anything so there is no sense in speculating what I might like.
@kim45456 I replied before I saw your last.
So cute, were you guys a couple since childhood? How old is she? I mean you guys are 20, how are you guys making caarer at that age
@kim45456"... couple since childhood?" No, I had no idea she had anything for me until about a year ago. I went off to school at 16yo and graduated a little over a year ago. She, just made up her mind and started riding her horses over on my place always bringing one for me to ride and it went from there. But, we knew each other always but she never hinted at all.
why would anyone's goal in life is to be frugal? frugal is a shit life
@nelly83 Because money is harder to come by than you think. Even with a well paying job.
Money is not hard to come by if you've had a decent education and work hard enough. The whole point of going to college, getting promotions is so that you can enjoy life more.
@nelly83 It's touching you still believe that. Between the mortgage and the car payments and everything else, it WILL be a lot harder than you think.
Its just gonna get easier when you make more money. Unless you seriously have terrible budgeting skills or if you're the type to run up a ton of credit card debt
I think some men prefer housewives because they want the joy and pride of being the main breadwinner and getting the appreciation from the family. Excited is a very good point.
You got that right!
I know I do and I'm a hard worker myself.The house will be kept clean by me and her at most times.Hot home-cooked meal can be substituted with pizzas or eating out in affordable places - yes, they do exist!Nothing like an excited girlfriend, that pounces on me and kisses me just a few minutes after I entered home 😍😍😍
Point is - I don't want a housewife but a career woman 😁
So what did you mean by an "excited" wife?
@davids88: A wife who's been yearning throughout the day for her husband's return so they can "get it on!" :)
How does a man make a wife/girlfriend excited, so that she yearns for him to come home?
Yes traditional relationships are basically like 247 for play from my experience. Every time she cleans up or cooks for me I get turned on thinking about how she is taken care of me and I know my girlfriend loves to watch me fix things around the house like install new electrical outlets Or just lift heavy things for her like a man should do
@Unit1: I can't speak on behalf of others. As for myself, I'm still very much head-over-heels for my husband. When we're apart, even for just hours, I feel incomplete. He assures me the feelings are mutual.
gah. I suppose if the love is real, we'll see it. Until then enjoy the single life 🤷♀️
I'm a successful businesswoman & investor. I ran most of my operations from the comforts of my properties. He's the same except he operates on site, away from home. Despite both being busy, we think of each other throughout the day. Each other's absence makes our hearts grow fonder.
That's literally what I'm after. Becoming a businessman and a investor and find a woman, who's also into business and investing because money is where the game is at every day in our lives 🤔Would you mind sharing your tricks in investing right?
@bamesjond0069 I'd be terrible in your place. They'd probably be better at lifting heavy things than me.
Kids are not forever babies
If you don't wanna share the pain of taking care of a baby then might as well just cut ur balls. Useless men like u shouldn't procreate. Want a baby? Then contribute in all those sleepless nights.
Hmm. Both you girls are 20 and 21. You'll grow into. We all have a part to play. If you want add work to yours. Knock yourselves out. That's nearly how it's been in every culture for centuries. Not sure what your mad at.
How about u contribute on taking care instead of putting all the work on women? You sure do have a lazy balls.
Then just marry your mother or grandma. This days women needs a career so we can easily leave a man if he turns out to be a jerk.
Look, dont call yourself an adult, if you can't cook amd clean
It seems that many women encountered horrible partners and use a career in order to escape them which I understand. But ladies if you Met a honest good guy and he wanted to care for you financially while you invest everything into family that’s an amazing fulfilling trade.
What if her dreams is to focus on her family? Does that make her not productive?
Listen, I don't desire nor find it attractive in a woman who wants to be home all day as if she is under house arrest acting like a maid. She can be perfectly devoted to raising a family alongside with me, while yet having a job or career. Many women do both are a good mom to the kids and an amazing wife as well.We have one life to live so let's make the best of it and fulfill your full potential in life beyond 4 walls inside a house.
Are you single?
LOL.. yeah and not available at least not right now. 😅
Did you have a father growing up or a positive male figure in your life?
No, but I had an amazing grandmother and deeply beloved mom.
A man could provide for himself, wife, and kids if he worked from sunrise to sundown, 6 days a week, like men in biblical times did. Working 40 hours a week was never enough to provide for a family.
@mistixs: In Biblical times college didn't exist, health care didn't exist, internet didn't exist, electricity and running water didn't exist, cell phones didn't exist, cars and insurance didn't exist etc. Our standard of living and comfort is literally day vs night and it cost money to live a comfortable life unless you want to live in the hood with a low quality life with drug dealers and muggers all around the corner. I heard a statistic that in the U. S. A. if I remember correctly around 70 something percent of people make $15 or less an hour; there's no way a man who is only one working can provide a decent quality life for a family of at least 4 in the household making such a salary that low.And I didn't even mention 2nd and 3rd world countries where the average working person literally makes pennies compared to the average American hourly salary. The reality is one person depending on his job (not everyone can have a decent paying job) can't take and support a family all alone.As I told you before, women throughout have always worked just as men worked in society. This idea that only men should work isn't Biblical at all. And please don't post the Bible scriptures about women taking care of the household. I never said women shouldn't be housewives, I'm just saying women can have a job and be a housewife as well. Many women do it everyday.
The proverbs 31 women did have a side hustle I can agree to that she sold things in the market place.
Yep. She is a business woman and owned land and made her money and still took care of the family. That kinda woman is hard working and special.
That's hypothetical, because he himself might "meet someone."
"hypocritical.". Damn autocorrect
And that's on of the reasons why I've never been attracted to arab men.
Yesss you're both right!! The man feels it's OK if he does.. But the woman never!!
Im Arab straight to the BONE, and lived 80% of my life in UAE and Syria and i find what you said incredibly ignorant and stereotypical. And offensive.
You are clearly surrounded by the WRONG people.
Nice to meet a rare Arab! A7la beek
i'm not a 'rare' Arab. that's why i said that your thinking is very stereotypical and ignorant. NO educated ARAB will 'worry' that his wife might meet someone and hates the idea of his wife working because of that. That's literally you assuming that ARAB men are idiots and insecure as well. Despite what the media portrays, Arabs dominate the working and business industry and occupy the highest paying jobs. the most brilliant doctors, engineers, and many other professions are Syrians or Lebanese or from neighboring countries to those. You seem like you are surrounded by less educated or non-open minded arabs. Where do you live? Morroco? Tunisia?
Thank you for the lecture but got bored after reading the first sentence 🙄I use to call my son batoot.. You sound just like him.. A angry duck!
Oh i see..32 years old by the way, and you replied to me in that way. i Also had asked you a legit question.I think i don't need to bother.
I did notice independent men who are hard working just and highly ambitious want a housewife for love and and men who are not confident in their earning potential want love but needs help.
Yeah. But i dont think its so specifically ambition and success driven. I think the more generally overall attractive men lean towards the housewife side and the less generally overall attractive lean towards career women. For example there are many men like sissy maid but I've hardly met hot successful smart men like sissy maid. I have met chubby broke annoying men like sissy maid.
You don't need a cleaning person, though, necessarily. You both could just clean yourselves.
@Jamie05rhs heehehe... i have many good qualities... domestic chores is not one of them :P besides.. they are professionals clearners... gets the work done in 2-3 hours...I take out everthing to "try" to clean... then 2-3 hours later.. i get too tire to put them back...So i work hard, make my money and let the profesionals do it... then I can go play :)
@midnightmoon05 Okay, well, as long as that's what you want to spend your money on. I would rather spend my money on music downloads. Then I can jam out while cleaning and I don't have to pay anybody else.
And the one whonis supposed to be in the house is the female of course.
Her body is created to adapt ar home.
But you haven't thought about a person can have many source of income.
Its only hard if you marry a man who isn't a good provider. I don't know why women even consider these men just to complain about them later.
We marry them because them not earning an income that can fully support a wife and kids isn't what's important when falling in love.
But if its not important why do they then complain about it alot? Also the number 1 reason for divorce is financial. Love doesn't trump all. I've loved girls that were plain wrong for me and i dumped them. Same thing. If you love a broke man... he's broke so... why still be with him to divorce him later because of it?
Doesn't mean we want a man that gives up and stops working to help support the family. Most women don't complain and divorce their husbands because she knows he's doing the best he can. They divorce the ones that give up, get lazy, and stop making their family a priority. And I don't mean the ones that fall on hard times by getting laid off but make their new job looking for another. I'm talking about the ones that get fired, feel sorry for themselves, and drink it away. Giving up instead of doing what he should do. In most cases if women complain or divorce their husband he gave her many reasons to do it.
I agree family is everything. We work for our families not for our egos. But many people work for themselves and a child wants mommy and daddy more.
If I’m frustrated from work I’m definitely would not be in the mood for intimacy
Why am i getting thumbs down defuq if wrong with you snow flakes
Why are insulting caarer women or women in general
@kim45456 maybe you read my comment wrong i meant it not as an insult but when a woman has worked and earned her keep comes home all dressed up in her work clothes it is hot
Ahh get it
Beats me why the downvotes. They're noobs. 🤔
I take my dislike back
We dont want to be housewiges
No one said you had to be... ?
Lol what kind of bike
one that goes *VROOM VROOOOM* haha
Can I ask if you had a father growing up, or a strong positive male figure in your life?
Yes I did. I still have a good relationship with my dad and my mother and they are still happily married. He was in the army when I was young so I did see how hard it can be to raise a child alone, even though he was still contributing to the family his absence made a significant difference and it's part of why I define relationships the way I do.
What do you prefer?
wouldn't say no to a house mouse
How old are you mind if I ask?
House wives don’t get paid
I take care of the big bills. Plus if they work part time they can pay for their own beauty parlor and buy their own clothes without always having to ask me for money every day
Well... if you have a baby. Someone should have to compromise, and in most cases it's the one who have a lower wage.
Why tf do i get dislikes?
Amen to that! Being a parent means 50/50 and not one with a career and one with a ruined life!
That’s your perspective. Many women love being home more with family. It’s not healthy in my opinion to have children and let them be raised by others. The new generation is brainwashed. I wish my mom stayed home and spent time with me instead of being violated by strangers.
Both of my parents always worked full time and were always there for us unconditionally. My mother went back to work three weeks after giving birth to me. And we were never looked after by others (we never had to go to one of these dirty kindergartens) My parents are my heroes, my idols, my best friends, my everything. I adore them and I will raise my kids the way the raised me.
@sunshinet123 my mum was a housewife and i wish she would not be one
Why is that Kim?
I have never seen any profit from her being a housewife for me as a child. I have to go with age of 4 to "all day school" and before my 4 years i dont remember anything and dont even care who care for me. If she was a working woman she always explains my dad how much she spend which is embarrasing and my dad never ever help her a bit at home.
I have never seen any profit from her being a housewife for me as a child. I have to go with age of 4 to "all day school" and before my 4 years i dont remember anything and dont even care who care for me. I dont think a kid care who look after them. If she was a working woman she did not have to explains my dad how much she spends everyday which is embarrasing and my dad never ever helped her a bit at home.
Do I really need my wife to work when I am already having a stabled business running that can me a hundred times? If it's selfish then no men would prefer it. Also I don't prefer day cares to touch my children.
You are entitled of your opinion, so are we. What you're saying is not gonna change anything.
I agree with you 100%
Kim clearly your mom didn’t think to at least homeschool and spend time with you which is a shame and I’m sorry you went through that. But healthy housewives want to invest into children, give the organic home cooked meals, support them in activities like sports, teach them how to read by age 2. Invest in their emotions healthy buy communication.
There is no real argument against both parents working full time. You can do all that for your kids if you work full time. I speak from experience because my both parents always worked full time. They were always there for me; I got freshly cooked food every day, they taught me to read and write before I came to school, they read a book to me every night before I went to bed, they drove me to my trainings, went to each of my competitions and cheered for me. I could list so much more. As you can see, I am proof that you can have wonderful parents who are always there for you even when they both have careers. They have always been the very best parents I could have ever wished for. I will raise my kids exactly the way they raised me.
@Satu16 U surely don't know what u are talking about. I think a lot of people will never understand what it feels like when one of the parents stays at home full time. I grew up with my mother being a full time housewife (bcoz no one would take care of me and when my sister was born). Basically she was a housewife until I graduated highschool and my sister is on 5th grade. I tell you, as someone who experienced both seasons of a "housewife mom and a "working mother", the level of affection and attention is incomparable to what stays at home parents give. Everytime I arrive at home, I would always look for my mom and just the presence of her in the house makes the home feels warm. Unlike when she is not around, it feels empty and lonely. Plus when you need help, time and someone to talk to, someone could be there for you asap. Working parents can help you and be there for you, but in minimal accounts only. When I was a kid, my mother would help me on all my projects and hang out daily to the park. Meanwhile my sister was left to fend for herself in most days, coz both of my parents are working and I went away to college. I really do feel bad for her. I also think this is partly the reasons why we are so different in attitude. I'm a very open type of a person specially to my parents, while my sister is the secretive one which worry me sometimes.
@Primrose21 your dad also could stay at home
@kim45456 He can't coz way before he married my mom, he already stablished a great career. It would be such a waste if he throw away his position as a Captain of a Cargo ship just to be a house dad. Plus my mother have no problem with being a housewife before. She did it, bcoz she wants to and have no regrets. Now she is a teacher.
But why should a woman give on its caarer?
@primrose21 and it would be such a waste if your mom got a career degree and did nothing but stay at home
@blackxbarbiex01 Getting a carrier degree is a waste of time at all if that's not your passion. There's something called "Going through something you didn't want in the first place"
@Aiko_E_Lara if a woman gets a degree for nothing and just decides to be a house wife, that’s stupid, why learn about something if you’re not gonna do it? That degree could have gone to someone else
@blackxbarbiex01 In society's standards, not having any degree is considered a low life. But in fact, not everything in collage you learn has something to do with your life. So should I continue being a chef when I'm already a store owner with great income just because that's what I finished?
@kim45456 @blackxbarbiex01 To clear things out, my mother gave birth to me right after she got her degree. So basically, she didn't started any career yet. She can't leave a new born just to find a job without certainty and it would be suicidal for my family if my father left his job (that pays a lot already that time). Lol. People need to be practical u know.
@primrose21 she could have gave you to her family members until she got off work, therefor you can still have help for homework and stuff
@Aiko_E_Lara like I said that degree could have gone to someone else
@blackxbarbiex01 "That degree could have gone to someone else" Just like all the food you throw and the mistakes you bought. That's basically everywhere in the world. Guess what? Not everyone knows what they want in life after they graduated highschool. Some of them just know what they want at a later age. Is it ever your right to be in charge of someone's life? If that's so, you're just as bad as parents who forces their sons/daughters to go get a degree they don't even want.
@blackxbarbiex01 And ofcourse you probably are ignorant about what that leads to.
Primrose, if she does not have any problem with it, then there is not anything wrong with it but also she should be respected too if she wanted to make a caarer. I dont know where you live but where I live you can take parental leave, so the woman can stay one-two years at home, then the other two years the dad can stay at home without giving up on caarer, as soon as your kid become 3-4 years old, the kid can stay at kindergarten where it can social and have friends
Primrose, if she does not have any problem with it, then there is nothing wrong with it but she should be respected too if she had chosen to make a caarer. I dont know where you live but where I live you can take parental leave, so the woman can stay one-two years at home, then the other two years the dad can stay at home without giving up on caarer, as soon as your kid become 3-4 years old, the kid can stay at kindergarten where it can be social and have friends
@blackxbarbiex01 Another example. So tell me how many grains of rice, drops of water and crumbs of bread have you throw away through out your life so far? With a total of how many kilos and litters, that could go to someone else but what can you do? Brood about it? Past is past no matter what.
@blackxbarbiex01Not everyone has a family member that is willing to take care of a new born, specially when they themselves have also kids to tend to. Plus, my parents always make sure our safety. Even relatives can abuse a child. U know, when u build a family, it's not always about you. Sometimes u gotta make sacrifices. My mother was not alone on making those sacrifices. My father also went tru things to make if that far into his career and provide us with the best life and education. Plus being miles away from your family is no joke. Before we only get to see him maybe around 10 times each year. PLUS MY MOTHERS DEGREE WAS NEVER WASTED COZ NOW SHE EARNS MORE THAN MY AUNT (who is also a teacher and had a career right away after graduation).
@Primrose21 It's sad they don't know the meaning of "power of leverage" which is what made us survive through out the years
@Aiko_E_Lara that’s why teachers tell us to choose our careers before we get to college
@primrose21 yk there’s also jobs where the mother can work at home right? So quitting jobs isn’t an exuse
@primrose21 and also with the mother without jobs things, I was referring to the kids who mothers didn’t get a job because she had to take care of them
@kim45456 A captain of a ship asking for parental leave? Thats more like asking to be fired from your job. Sea farers jobs are not the same as land jobs. It's like military, you can't say no unless you quit. My father was not even there when I was born coz he can't find a replacement asap if he files for a leave. Took him a few days before he got the chance to come home. Same scenario happened when my sister was born.
@Aiko_E_Lara you can prefere housewifes but you should also respect caarer women like you respect caarer men
@blackxbarbiex01 Easy for them to say and easy for them to generalize thinking everyone will make up their minds at the same time but however that's not how the world works. (If I'm a girl 18) So what about if I get a marketing degree because that's what I "thought" I want? I finished it 4 years later now I'm 22. Then got married at 25 and I finally know I wanna be a house wife. Do I have to make a change when I turn 50 then regret I haven't when I was younger? That's the real meaning of waste.
@Aiko_E_Lara well how is she gonna make money if the husband goes bankrupt
@blackxbarbiex01 All what the teachers learn are just from their book. School is outdated AF. It's not like you'll apply everything they taught you. Those teachers only learn but they don't do. Business teachers are just teachers but do they have a real business? A lot of them don't.
@blackxbarbie01 You are only 13. You surely don't know yet the harsh realities of adulthood. It's easy to say things like they are simple but it's not. In life you gotta make sacrifices specially when u have kids. Plus what works for you might not work for others coz people have different circumstances. I hope someday you won't be tangled into situations of having kids and got no one to look after it.
@kim45456 I never said I disrespect career women. However I disrespect people who bash on other people's life.
@blackxbarbiex01 I tell you and I'll predict it. You'll just pass school but you'll forget majority of it.
@primrose21 actually I’m not having kids, I’m gonna be too busy, plus kids actually annoy me Ik it sounds rude but it’s true they don’t act right, and it’s hard to get them to listen , and also I have a health problem and I heard having kids make it worse
@blackxbarbiex01 Acting like you've experienced it yourself at a later age? We'll see.
@Aiko_E_Lara I have strict family, if I go to college and don’t use my degree my family will be disappointed and probably will reprimand me
@blackxbarbiex01 And I'm starting to wonder if your parents like you in the first place. I mean you were once a kid. (Technically you still are but whatever)
@blackxbarbiex01 Then it's not our decision but yours. Should you obey? Should you stand up for yourself? Your "strict parents" is more like a manipulative parents if that's the case.
@Ailo_E_Lara well if they didn’t like me they wouldn’t be pushing me past my limits to be successful, all my other sisters failed because of drugs, having kids early, or deciding not to continue school
@blackxbarbie01 I've observed that u only care of money and career. I suggest that just don't start a family if you always feels in competition with your husband. Anyways, It's good to have a career for woman, so that he can leave her husband if he turns out to be a jerk. Tho, never forget that marriage is a team work or else you will just end up in a divorce.
@blackxbarbiex01 "reprimand me" <-- Way to prove me right. And you don't have to spread your ideology and just because you're manipulated doesn't mean everyone else should be. It's not our fault nor it's no body's fault
@aiko_E_Lara I didn’t say everyone else should be manipulated, I’m saying everyone should at least try to be successful
@blackxbarbiex01 And sure you wouldn't like kids. As I projected how it's gonna turn out, they will rebel against you due to the lack of support.
@aiko_E_lara ofc they’re gonna have lack of support I’m gonna be too busy and I have health problems which is why I’m not having them
@blackxbarbiex01 And we're talking about a successful house wife. So what is it that you want?
@blackxbarbiex01 More like making excuses. + you're only 13. You have a long way to solve your own problems the mature way.
@aiko_E_lara well if the husband isn’t giving her any money she isn’t
@blackxbarbie01 about the kids part u said. Be careful what u says, coz someday u might eat everything u said. Some girls have late maternal instincts. Plus, who told you that starting late in life would be a hindrance on successful lives? Don't u know that a lot of billionaires started late in life like the owner of kfc? Lol. A lot of people started way early or right after graduation but still works on the same old job with a not so good pay.
@aiko_e_lara so kids aren’t annoying? Having kids can’t make health problems worse? You want me to struggle?
@primrose21 wdym? And also not all people who start early are still working the same job
@blackxbarbiex01 Then you're talking about an unsuccessful housewife but that's not what were talking about. Just like to point out how you strawman about them
@blackxbarbiex01 It doesn't for me. Because I know how to handle things the right way unlike a 13 year old girl who's a smart aleck at life.
@aiko_e_lara do you have a birth defect?
@blackxbarbiex01 Well no body is actually forcing you to have kids. It's your life but if that's your excuse, that's pretty shallow
@aiko_e_lara do you have strict parents?
@blackxbarbie01 tbh. I think it's immature to talk all this stuff with a 13yrs old. You have a long way to go. Also, I swear everything you are thinking now would change as years keeps adding up to your age and your mentality develops and aware of the truths of life. What u want now, still have a huge tendency to change overtime which is normal for everyone.Tho, I hope you get successful as how you vision it today.
And isn't that what humans are biologically suppose to do? Struggle to get mentally ill? Maybe in your pseudoscience book
@primrose21 thank you but I’ll see
@blackxbarbiex01 I have. But they're also good parents. Unlike yours who don't want you in the first place.
@aiko_e_lara there are actually women out here who regret having kids but I see where you getting, it’s their choice
@blackxbarbiex01 It'll only be a matter of time. But it's not easy to let go of pride. Because we say you'll change your mind, you'll just try not to because of ego. I've been there.
@aiko_e_lara well maybe if I reach my dreams I will, I don't know yet
@aiki_e_lara and wdym they don’t want me?
@blackxbarbiex01 And there are women who don't. How do you think we populate in the first place?
@blackxbarbiex01 And those women who don't are successful housewives. So your point is?
@aiko_e_lara women that don’t regret having kids also has jobs, not all of them are housewives
@blackxbarbiex01 "Wdym they don't want me?" It doesn't take a genius. You can scroll and read again.
@blackxbarbiex01 "women that don’t regret having kids also has jobs, not all of them are housewives" Ehh before you generalize do you have a source? That "all" women who are successful housewives have jobs?
@aiko_e_lara if they didn’t want me they would have been put me up for adoption instead of making sure I got an education, and making sure I had good and clothing and spoiling me
@blackxbarbiex01 Now change the topic will you? This is about housewives were talking about and you're talking about working wives. Sure they don't regret some working wives also do so your point is?
@blackxbarbiex01 And ofcourse you don't understand what "lowkey" means. How sad.
@aiko_e_lara that is my point, you just said it again
@aiko_e_lara I know what “low key” means and also telling someone their parents don’t want you is the evilish thing ever, how would you feel if someone told you your parents didn’t want you?
@blackxbarbiex01 "some working wives also do" <- is what i said but wouldn't that contradict you saying working wives don't regret? Now you say that's your point? The tactic of contradiction tho
@blackxbarbiex01 That for saying "Being housewife is not a life. It is fucking selfish of the man to except from women to care for the whole family while he can make caarer." I know you're not saying it but you "100%" that is when justice serves you right and trying to reflect the situation to you.
@aiko_e_lara people have the choice to regret or not regret children there
@blackxbarbiex01 Who ever said they dont? Are you gonna make up more stories?
@aiko_e_lara that is nothing compared to saying your parents don’t want you compares nothing to this, your parents could have thrown you away in either situation but it’s clear if a parent didn’t want you they wouldn’t keep you sir, have a good day
@aiko_e_lara I never said that someone said they don’t? I’m saying that to end the conversation 🤦🏽♀️
@blackxbarbiex01 "reprimand me" <-- such a good parent. "your parents could have thrown you away in either situation but it’s clear if a parent didn’t want you they wouldn’t keep you sir" <-- And is that really a choice to just put you in the orphanage? Or they're just keeping you for the sake of their reputation? Not everything unwanted has to be thrown away FYI. But yeah "that is nothing compared" <-- nothing compared to interfering with people's lives. Uhuh now you don't like it. Double standards you're trying to prove? If that's the case you don't have to think it's selfish and generalize about housewives being unsuccessful who regrets having kids.
@aiko_E_lara if you ever have kids and they don’t want you being their parent then you’re gonna feel some type of way, so saying your parents don’t want you is like that but backwards, and housewives is a choice idc anymore 🤷🏽♀️
@aiko_e_lara I wouldn’t change my parents for anyone and also “reprimand” is a word I found on BitLife and assumed what it meant so I’m probably using the term wrong, I love my life and my parents love me :) anyways HAVE A GOOD DAY
@blackxbarbiex01 If they don't want me as a parent then I have to understand that they're just kids and they'll change their minds someday. And like what good fathers do, they support but not spoil giving them almost no chance of not wanting to be their children anymore. And if you don't care anymore, why are you still here?
@blackxbarbiex01 "and housewives is a choice" That's not you're saying. "Being housewife is not a life. It is fucking selfish" Read again
@aiko_e_lara because you keep replying to me and also my dad is a good father, he supports me and I love being a child because adulthood seems extreme and I don’t wanna imagine what adults go through even tho I’m going to get older, you don’t know what my parents do
@aiko_e_lara I don’t have to read anything because I didn’t right the opinion
@blackxbarbiex01 "I 100% agree" And if you don't remember what you're saying then proves you don't know what you're saying. "because you keep replying to me" <--- Well I do have something to say but if you don't like it, you can always end things up like what grown ups do. If you're saying your dad is a good father then who knows? Judging by you alone against housewives is telling us something.
And you don't care anymore. Uhuh. Care about me replying?
@aiko_e_lara well actually you replied to me first I was talking to Primrose not you , so ya,
@aiko_e_lara you worry about your parents treating you right, not others, I rather have them than anybody else 🤷🏽♀️
@blackxbarbiex01 So? It's called freedom of speech. Get it? Take it or leave it. I do what I want when I want.
@aiko_e_lara and I do what I want when I want it to :)
@blackxbarbiex01 If you're talking to her talk to her. I'm just siding on her. Do you really have to care? Now this is not the main topic is all about. I'm not gonna detour to a new one. Talking about housewives here. Dodge it will you?
@aiko_e_lara for the 3rd time, have a good day
@blackxbarbiex01 Sure do what you want. Still pointing out how you complain about me replying to your sullen comments.
@aiko_e_lara because you keep talking to me stfu damn bitch
@blackxbarbiex01 "for the 3rd time have a good day" <-- what happened to that? And I'm not the one saying I'm done here but you. Like what I said if you're done then you don't have to care. No one is forcing you to care just to get butthurt
@aiko_e_lara I tried being nice by saying that but nahhh u keep annoying so I think it was time for me to get harsh
@blackxbarbiex01 No need to sugar coat anything. It's either you leave or get butthurt. Simple as that. Now which do you choose?
@aiko_e_lara if you expect someone to not say stfu after u keep talking to them then you're crazy
@blackxbarbiex01 Im not forcing you to care however. You have the choice to go back to your safe place and let the grown ups talk but you keep blowing it.
@blackxbarbiex01 And did I say Im done? No. Have any more valid arguments to present?
@blackxbarbiex01 "stfu" because I can also say thesame thing. It's one of the easiest thing to say however I'm not salty like you.
@aiko_e_lara but there is no argument so you’re here for no reason
@aiko_e_lara I told you good day 3 times so it’s not my fault if I said it
@blackxbarbiex01 Except for the house wives thing you've been dodging the whole time. Just because you're done doesn't mean I am but if you're really done, you don't have to say it. Just telling you saying "good day" no matter how many times doesn't get you anywhere.
@aiko_e_lara well keep bothering someone doesn’t get you anywhere either, and it tells people something is wrong with you
@blackxbarbiex01 "Being housewife is not a life. It is fucking selfish of the man to except from women to care for the whole family while he can make caarer." <--- You: "100% agree" Ironically speaking. And try to win it all by saying "good day" that's not how the world works FYI
@blackxbarbiex01 Wanna try again? Or you wanna continue being salty that doesn't prove you anything? I'm still here.
@aiko_e_lara and keep mentioning the same thing over and over doesn’t prove anything either
@blackxbarbiex01 Yeah let's ignore the fact that you're bothering people's decisions. It's easy to be in denial of evidence.
And the evidence, ofcourse I have to copy paste it over and over as you keep denying over and over.
@aiko_e_lara I never denied anything, now you're “making up stories” I said that housewives is a choice earlier
@blackxbarbiex01 Actions speaks louder than words. <-- like saying you're not in denial lol. You're saying something way earlier than that. And if you say so, don't complain if I copy paste it again. "Being housewife is not a life. It is fucking selfish of the man to except from women to care for the whole family while he can make caarer. <--- You: "100% agree" Say you're not in denial again :)
@aiko_e_lara I’m not in denial :)Anyways since I’m salty let me be saltier... I hope your life worsens and you won’t achieve any of your dreams, and I hope you won’t find any love in your life and that you struggle trying to get thinks you need, good bye ma’am :3:
@blackxbarbiex01 Yeah "let me be saltier" Meaning you're trying to be more pointless than you ever was? Let's put it that way.