Agree or Disagree: Marriage is no longer about in sickness or in health, for richer or poorer, til death do us part, etc?

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provokeesmokee · Accepted Answer

I agree, and frankly, I think it's a good thing.

Society and social norms have changed enough that those old school vows aren't only unnecessary now, they're actively harmful like they were back when they became the norm.

Those vows, in a time pre-Sufferage, would protect the woman who was at the time unable to own property or have rights unless through a man. But in exchange, it traps her into anything the man wants to do (or not do) to/for her.

Now, though, they're harmful to both parties.

Sure, abuse is usually seen as a clear cut reason for divorce, but even proving that is hard. Especially for men!

Marriage ought to be based on mutual respect, genuine love, and compassion.

Nevermind the fact that in America, divorce becomes a financial tool if one partner gets a life-threatening diagnosis like cancer.

It's been decades since those vows were appropriate. Most couples have vows beyond or more accurate to them than these.

It's time to let go of an old definition of marriage and accept the fact the nature of these sorts of committed relationships have changed significantly.

BlackBeauty90 · Accepted Answer

Stastically marriages that fail, and fail early, are between people who come from broken households growing up and think their conduct is acceptable. Ask around.

You'll likely find that most of your friends or colleagues whose marriages didn't make even 5 or 10 years had parents who were divorced, maybe abuse in household, etc., etc.

They don't have a clue how to keep a marriage as their parents were borderline useless.

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This is obvious in how nowadays people who barely know each other from strangers get married. They're more friends with benefits playing house than they are partners.

I've seen colleagues marry their boyfriend or girlfriend within the first year of dating. I've seen friends marry their boyfriend or girlfriend who can't tell you that person's favorite color or food even if their lives depended upon the answer.

They're not partners. Hell they're not even decent boyfriends / girlfriends. As said a second ago they're nothing more than friends with benefits playing house / grownups.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

Agreed, women have destroyed the institution of marriage. Half of marriages end in divorce, women file 80% of them, and men typically get screwed in divorce.

And before anyone claims the majority of women file for divorce because of men's behavior, how do you explain the fact that the highest rate of divorce is among lesbian women and the lowest is among gay men, with the rate for heterosexual couples somewhere in between?

The common denominator in the high divorce rate is women, because today's women have no sense of commitment.

OlderAndWiser · Accepted Answer

That is what real marriage is all about but many people repeat those words with no intention of honoring them. The problem is the people and not the concept of marriage.

kylee2437 · Answer

I agree that it is still about that, however people have caught onto how toxic majority of marriages are and now have enough stability to live life independently

jennifer_bloom · Answer

I think you have delight where a person makes you happy and you have loyalty where you remain faithful to a person that makes you unhappy, such as he is ill and smells bad, he is old and he can't speak well, his brain is fuzzy and he can't think properly etc... he is heavy and needs you to lift him because he is disabled etc... So character matters more than attraction.

Selliebeanz · Answer

I don't people fundamentally understand what commitment and marriage truly means. They make these decisions when all is going well and they haven't weathered any storms with each other and may not have the tools to navigate hard times. It all comes down to being irresponsible at times I believe. I do believe that if abuse in any form is taking place, a divorce should be thought about, however, if both people don't have respect or even decide to compromise, it's not going to work. Go easy on each other!

Screenwriter · Answer

But the reason this is true is better than sticking with someone forever and being in a miserable situation for life. There were a lot of bad and sad marriages in the past. A lot of staying together for "the children," who knew mom and dad hated each other and suffered for it.

The words present the "ideal" of marriage. They are the yardstick, the measure of what you should consider before and during a long-term relationship. And before breaking that relationship off.

At best, the two people involved will be well suited. But some were not. It's best to cut losses and learn wisdom from your error. Unfortunately, most don't, repeat their mistakes and stumble through life.

ShesRad80 · Answer

I have seen so many spouses leave their ailing and sick partners its, shocking to say the least. maybe im old school or maybe i love hard but if im with someone I'm there no matter what. whatever needs to be gotten through we will get through.

Christoff92 · Answer

Because divorces and separation

Agree or Disagree: Marriage is no longer about in sickness or in health, for richer or poorer, til death do us part, etc?

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Anonymous · Answer

Yes and no.

NO! The vows have not changed, society has. I keep preaching this. I'm not trying to paint all women with the same brush. Because there are still quality women. But I do my best to explain to them that hey have to understand that they are now the minority. The majority of women today are not worth investing in.

The rule has always been guys pursue women, court the woman he chooses. But women have to understand that with the majority of women today that is such a losing proposition to a guy.

I'll tell ANY GUY who will listen to take his time to understand who she truly is. Because women will not tell you. And the ones that have a lot to hide will DEFINITELY NOT tell you.😆 So a guys only form of protection is to take his time and make a good choice. If she's a quality woman she should I understand that.

Girl242 · Answer

If a divorce is needed that's probably because the 2 people were never committed in the first place. That's really the only way problems can exist and or never get resolved. That or a lack of knowledge on how to resolve the issue, which probably isn't the case today. Many experts out there to help couples.

Meropatrick · Answer

In the past people needed each others a lot thats why marriages lasted. Women relied on men to survive. Men relied on women to take care of their children and homes. Nowadays with capitalism people rarely need eachothers. You can rent a whole family in Japan to act like ur family, u can rent a nanny to take care of ur child. Women can get pregnant by a sperm donor and support her own child on her own. Old people have nursery homes to take care of them. Society no longer encourges people to rely on one another but on the state. We became slaves for the state the gives us our food and money as long as we keep working for it

Sun_Kim-Ai · Answer

In my case it's a prank that went too far. When we were back in school we thought it'd be funny to make people think we were dating. Now we're married with a daughter and twins on the way.

Nikki1989 · Answer

Maybe for those people with no sense of commitment or morals. We took our marriage vows very seriously.

Emily1975 · Answer

When I got married at 26 I took my wedding vows seriously were happily married 22 years then he got sick I cared for him for 12 years then he died last April more people should take their wedding vows seriously

BCRanger10 · Answer

That is in fact what it still objectively is. Whether or not people choose to honor that is a different story.

AutisticLonelyWoman · Answer

Agree because let’s be real, nobody cares to work shit out anymore. Quite frankly it’s good because there’s too many fake people that only marry because they rush into it.

sheikalana · Answer

Agree. People get married just for fun. Marriage is a duty!

midnightmoon05 · Answer

Yes.  that’s how I see marriage.  maybe some others don’t.

EmmaMary · Answer

@coachtanthony  I'm just completely reiterating what @nikki1989 has posted.

andreasderjuengere · Answer

It still is valid. It's just: you not longer need to be married to fulfill the vow that also faggots and fakes give :)

RobT312 · Answer

Im traditional when it comes to vows. I agree with them

Hispanic-Cool-Guy · Answer

Never was. Humans by nature aren't loyal regardless of what they say.  Gets dark enough and they will abandon you.

Jazzy54 · Answer

Disagree. It depends on the couple and what they want out of the marriage.

DizzyDesii · Answer

I probably wouldn't even add that stuff in my vows. I want us to love one another, respect one another and be faithfully committed. But i can't promise to stick around for all those other situations. I’m not trying to lie to them like that

richardcory · Answer

Unlike a hundred years ago, women can easily have lives on their own, so ending a marriage is not a big issue. If the couple i not happy together there is no reason to stay married

FunkyMonkee · Answer

It hasn't been about any of that shit for nearly 100 years!!

exitseven · Answer

Marriage is still about a promise to take care of another person no matter what.

Anonymous · Answer

Lol you again? Your questions are all over the place. How much does Gag pay you to be on the site on a Sunday?

AnusNdaPainus · Answer

I disagree marriage has always been til death do us part.  it’s just shows cowardice of modern society.

KatherineJ · Answer

I did not take those vows to view marriage as anything other than until death us do part.

OfMiceandMen · Answer

The license is a novelty item... someday it will become a circus freak show exhibit! Hear yea... hear yea... come see the last married couple in the world!😂

Anonymous · Answer

Marriage is institutional practice.
To bind a packed, to create an intentional outcome, for people to listen to do as they’re indirectly told.
Society creates so many situations that have a behavior, so that people do as they’re told without being directly told. Folks are robots and lots of folks know this and just do things their way and live free from being brainwashed.
Society is also a culture that so many of you have chosen to join.

Anonymous · Answer

I sort of disagree... It is for richer or poorer... The woman becomes richer and the man becomes poorer!

DiegoO · Answer

Marriage loss its original porpoise. I don't see any sense behind the traditional ceremony.

rigmarole · Answer

As soon as you let government into marriage rather than it being a religious ideal you killed marriage. It's just a tax system now.

strateguy632 · Answer

mostly not, like that, except in a church. society is like paper plates to chuck after one use

Unit1 · Answer

The high divorce rates are telling ;) Oh look who's back from hell.

Spongebobssocks · Answer

Real marrige is about that what people wanna pretend it to be is up to them..:)

slatyb · Answer

For most people it's not a religious sacrament. People divorce more now because they can afford to.

RingOfFire · Answer

What is the point of getting married if the intention isn't to be together for life and beyond? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

GoodGuyBreakingBad · Answer

I agree, How I wish that the old morals were still the same.

cth2188 · Answer

I see no benefit in marriage or dating! Titles means nothing !

Sparkie460 · Answer

Yes I agree. People don't take the vows seriously anymore. The first sign of trouble one of them are filling for divorce.

Anonymous · Answer

Agree because by the time death does us part, the groom's already the bride in for a younger woman

gothbxtch · Answer

agree, but that’s a good thing! people shouldn’t be stuck in unhappy marriages

DarkLegacy · Answer

Marriage is a financial investment for women

Kacka · Answer

marriage is pointless, mostly for men. in our current world irs useless just, meaning of marriage dissapeared about 30 years ago

Snakeyes7 · Answer

There is no point in believing in marriage-level love when the institution doesn't believe in it either.

shades777 · Answer

definition is the same, its for straight men and women. people are just looking for support for their bad habita

DextroShade · Answer

Feminism and no-fault divorce have ruined marriage.

BigDog1989 · Answer

It's all about "as long as you have my kids", according to religion

legalboxers · Answer

its just a "template" regurgitated by the priest for ions.

dolemite58 · Answer

marriage is a big party and a business contract, both of which only benefit the wife.

LiamJHayden · Answer

Yes. No fault divorce made it that way.

Sasha0426 · Answer

I’m starting to believe that.

msc545 · Answer

Agree - it is about money.

RavVid · Answer

It s till I stop feeling it's fun

luvstoned4him · Answer

I agree.

Kelly6 · Answer

i agree

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