Men should never be open with women no matter how much they tell men to. Agree or disagree?

[Chthou95]

Some things are better left to yourself

Agree

Disagree

[SolitarySolace]

Agreed because she will use everything she knows and has at her disposal against him when she decides to use it. She also has political privileges to utilize at her disposal like an ex parte ppo for example. Not all women will be use it is the fact that they have it if they deem it necessary and majority of the time it isn't necessary

[AngryCarl]

Be open like 90%. The other 10% is a matter of discretion. Never let a woman see you struggle.

[AngryCarl]

Thanks for MHO!

[OlderAndWiser]

I agree that you don't need to tell your partner everything that happens in your life and that it is okay to have some privacy in a relationship. However, a good relationship means having a partner with whom you may be sincere and know that your words will be heard without judgment or condemnation. How do you ever get to that point if you are always holding back?

[Sonorous]

I think applies more to negative emotion. I noticed that women I've encountered expect a guy to not have such strong emotions.

[Chthou95]

But yet they tell men to be more open and express himself

[Sonorous]

Ngl those same women would have said that. But I also experience a similar thing with men though. 🤣 Can't be vulnerable around nobody!

[Chthou95]

True. Men nees to learn to keep things to themselves and learn how to deal with things alone

[Sonorous]

Yeah, I notice that the older I get, the more I'm starting to believe this.

Since I'm not the average person with how much suffering I experience on a day to day basis, I constantly encounter this issue. I notice that the majority of people who know about my levels of suffering have initially & still occasionally respond to my disadvantages in mostly unfavorable or indifferent ways. Even loved ones. I notice that when many hear about my disadvantages, they feel better about themselves & may even have a "sucks for you" or "it's not that bad, get over it" mentality due to their issue with empathy & self-extrapolation.

I don't blame them for their nature because I believe it's inevitable. I just wanted to find a work around.. And it seems that being inordinately discerning about who we reveal our vulnerabilities to is the most optimal strategy. And I mean every perceivable form of vulnerability that we can think of.

[AaronKrieger]

I disagree with the title - not the description.

Relationships are all about balance. You can open up to your partner about trauma, insecurities, that you feel down lately, or any of that. However, you should not treat them as a therapist, as expressing too much negativity is toxic for your partner. Both partners are there to help build each other up.

You should express the amount needed for the sake of communication, since you do need to understand your partner in a relationship.

[Flatmanlewis]

I’m very open with my wife in that I don’t lie to her or conceal things. I’m also somewhat reserved about the demons of bad memories or the traumatic things I’ve seen or endured in life. Also, I think it’s generally bad form to discuss previous relationships or sexual escapades with your wife (or husband) unless in a specific context. It can be mistaken as nostalgia or reminiscing and that’s not good.


I think my wife knows about 85-90% of who I am and that’s about the best I can give to anybody. I think the same is true of her. Anybody who thinks they know 100% of everything there is to know about someone is either with somebody very boring OR not being honest with themselves.

[RavVid]

When women say they want emotionally available men they don't mean they want men to talk about their feelings at at all. They mean they want men who are willing to talk about her feelings for an extended period of time.

I've had gfs who, if they were at all sentient, would have known an event would have considerable emotional impact for me but described it as 'water off a ducks back' or 'like hurting a brick'. If you had feelings it would reduce bandwidth for her feelings.

Women explicitly say they lose respect for men who show negative emotion. I saw a clip of a woman describing an actor crying in his part who said she couldn't respect him again. If your negative emotion shows weakness you will lose respect. She can't expect you to protect her if you are a blubbering mess.

In any case you are best off talking with a mate. Far more consoling hearing him say 'That fuckin cunt. He deserved being punched out' then anything a woman will say.

[ChiTown33]

No I wouldn't say that. I think you need to read the situation. I would say beware of any women who wants to know too much about you too fast. Beware of very probing questions. And don't be open to a woman who is unwilling to be open with you.

[LordMadara]

Always lie because

Women eat breath sleep lying

Any man who hasn't caught up to the highly advanced female pyschology should take precautions

Lie even if it doesn't matter you will thank yourself in future

[Roxilicious]

yes, it’s honestly important to be honest about who you are to your partner because what if they later find out you’re not what are you pretending to be: &they leave for it.

[Chthou95]

Too many women use the shit men tell later on in an argument or something. "Well that's why you and your dad don't get along" "That's why you'll be single" etc you get it

[Roxilicious]

Honestly, I’ve seen this happen and I’ve been in relationships. Where my ex boyfriend Was like that and hurt my feelings and would use things like that against me. my honest opinion on that is people like this are just manipulative and the best thing to do is to just get out as fast as you can!

[Roxilicious]

However, that doesn’t mean you need a hide who are you are. you should still be honest because the right person is gonna come around and accept you for everything that you are and were

[Chthou95]

No as a man, you can't show any kind of weakness or vulnerability. Always be stoic and handle your problems by yourself

[KrakenAttackin]

Women only want men to be "open" when what men say suits the women. Women do not want to hear about a man's pain or struggles.

[Drumlin2001]

Strongly disagree. But then have seen videos of women who ask for this then recoil when their man does try to show vulnerability so who knows.

[Chthou95]

Its a risk. Women want you to be open but so many things can happen from opening up

[PeachyPie93]

Men should be open with their partner as much as possible but if it is something harsh about your spouse be tactful and not cruel.

[Truthatanycost]

If she is not a true woman of God, then I agree. if she is a true woman of God, then you can be open with her.

[slatyb]

If you don't let someone know you, you can never feel loved.

[Chthou95]

Stoicism is the best

[Billlewis]

I think that's probably true most of the time.

[ProbablyClueless]

Be open, just have social awareness, and boundaries and a sense of self respect.

[laly520]

if they want to suffer in silence n handle it on their own then yes they can go for it

[BonzoInBitburg]

I'm very open and I expect the same or I'm gone

[noohair]

It is not really open or not, it is managing interactions because you know how bad it can be if you only speak without thinking first.

[Pohjolan]

If you find a woman you can be open with then you probably should consider marrying her.

[Charliefretz329]

If you have to be that way, you’re better off single