Agree or Disagree: Women have two goals to secure the best genes for the next generation and to obtain security for said genes?

[coachTanthony]

agree

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[purplepoppy]

Agree but it doesn't have to be from the same man. A wealthy man with good paternal skill would be a good choice to raise your kids but he could have shitty genes. In that case you have to cheat on him with some Chad Thundercock to make sure your kid gets decent genes.

[coachTanthony]

Correct lol

[wowop99266]

And what if good paternal skill guy doesn't want to raise Chad's kids. if he's smart he would take a DNA test.

[monorprise]

@purplepoppy
If Chad Thundercock had good genes he would be wealthy and have good paternal skills.

Instead he is a dumb-ass with no real future focusing his time on being being physically strong in a world of machines. So he can sleep around with equally dimwitted and dishonest women like you until he is too old, poor, and ugly to be of any use to anyone.

As such your proposition says more about said women and their self-centered and very poor judgement than any man they can hoodwink into trusting them.

Ultimately when the kid pops out and it turns out not to be his, she is quite likely to find herself with nothing at all. Chad certainly can't and won't afford to support her. But then again this also demonstrates just how poor her own genes are for even thinking this would work.

[andreasderjuengere]

Since an estimated 10000 years or so, I don't see it like this any longer.
Women rather care about their OWN... standing in the picture.
Which is their right of course.
And as long as that attitude is agreeable to everyone involved, I will not throw the first stone :)

[NathanDavis]

"best genes"

if that were true... we would not be were we are today and the current situation, lmfao

it's been 40,000 years... how much longer does it take for the best to show up, lol

[coachTanthony]

Well its the best they can do for themselves for procreation. That will look different for everyone.

[IslaTheWitch]

disagree

women want to be happy and loved, with someone they love. With 7 billion people on earth we don't care about genes anymore :D

[coachTanthony]

Speak for yourself Witch lol

[IslaTheWitch]

you ask questions we answer :D

[jahaims]

8 billion *

[IslaTheWitch]

@jahaims yep... 1 billion reasons more to don't care :D

[monorprise]

@islathewitch
How does the number of unrelated increasingly old people effect your judgement? Are you trying to be mother of the world or your family?

[IslaTheWitch]

@monorprise why should it affect my opinion? The gene pool is wide enough, we don't have to care about it anymore...

[monorprise]

@islathewitch
Again what does that have to do with your part of it. The global gene pool thou numerous is not particularly diverse, a level of diversity you are reducing by removing your increasingly unusual and historically valuable part of it.

Even still your particular part of this gene pool is everything to you and nearly as important to your family who invested a lot of resources in you to carry it forward with them.

[IslaTheWitch]

@monorprise I don't think genes. Having kids is optional. And they will be with us only part of our lives.
Personality of my partner is crucial. He will be the person I want to spend my life with. Not his genes...

[monorprise]

@islathewitch A man is not your slave and he is with to work towards a common goal of providing security and stability for your posterity as he's parents did for him.

If you are marring a man for how he makes you feel your not marrying him. Your looking for a friend and a security of your own feelings that in the end no other person can provide for you. As such it is more likely than not that said relationships will end when he inevitably fails regardless.

Such a man should avoid "marring" you for this reason alone, as your clearly not interested in that kind of commitment.

Hopefully you will tell him that you are already married to your own feelings and thus cannot marry really him.

[IslaTheWitch]

@monorprise I marry a man for who he is. How he makes me feel is the second reason, together with how I make him feel.
Marriage is not slavery. It's a partnership where both partners commit and care for their union.
My husband is my man, my lover, and my friend. It makes us a great pair because the relationship is about being together.
There is a reason I'm interested in smart, witty, funny, and challenging men. We have years ahead, and I don't want us to be bored :D
And yes, I understand and can name my feelings; I'm at peace with them. My man shouldn't play the role of my father. He doesn't have to take care of my feelings. It's enough if he lives with me and accepts me as I am.

[monorprise]

@islathewitch

Unless you really are committed for security proposes you have a nice friendship.

[AI Opinion]

Love is such a complex and multifaceted experience, don't you think? To boil down women's goals to just securing the best genes and obtaining security feels a bit like we're in a nature documentary, doesn't it? Sure, on a very primal level, there's an inkling of truth there—after all, we're all part of the great circle of life. But let's not forget the rich tapestry of wants, desires, and aspirations that women (and all humans, for that matter) have. Love, passion, career ambitions, personal growth, adventure... the list goes on. So, while there might be a kernel of evolutionary truth in that statement, it's definitely not the whole story. Women, like men, are beautifully complex creatures with goals as diverse as the stars in the sky. 🌟

[Avicenna]

A lot of women these days don't want to have any kids at all and many of them don't even look for security for themselves.

[laly520]

I agree with a part of it

tho rest doesn't make sense, a guy could have good genes but only that, no social skills no survival skills no nothing to give but his good genes meanwhile another guy without any good genes yet he is capable of giving a lot to the relationship or woman he is with n is actually more useful than the guy with only good genes which makes him more needed in his own community

soo?

[WhitneySnow]

I’m a woman and I don’t care about either one of those things. Even when I’m old enough to worry about having kids, I’m not gonna think about it in terms of genes.

[coachTanthony]

You won’t it’s all done for you through biology

[Siri137]

Of course. This is a coach question.

DISAGREE!

[coachTanthony]

I am popular here lol

[molonski2]

Its kinda like the woman who says to the Scientist professor..

" With my looks and your brain , imagine the quality of our children "

Answer " Yes , but what if they have my looks and your brain? " .

[Unit1]

Haven't laughed in a long time 😆 that is a good one. Especially if she's the bimbo.

[molonski2]

@Unit1
Its an old one Unit , told to me by my mother , still relevant 555555 . She was a serious Bimbo ( not my mother ) 5555 .

[Unit1]

Decent jokes are pretty rare these days. We have probably exhausted those.

[molonski2]

@Unit1
Because most are too scared to try a joke / riddle these days , for good reason.

[Unit1]

Me was too busy fighting my way out of imposed misery. What jokes or girlfriends?

[molonski2]

@Unit1
Yeah right..
Back in those times ( 20s ) I reckon all I did was tell filthy jokes that would no longer cut it.

[Unit1]

The jokes were probably not funny in itself. Or times have changed. Or you grew out of it.

[molonski2]

@Unit1
Bit of all that , but I still secretly like them ! 555555

[DarkLegacy]

I saw your question about alpha males, and it just confirms what i already knew, that you never did have anything worth listening to. I mean you obsess over robots.

[coachTanthony]

Oh no how can I do better for you?

[FreyaRed]

When you reduce everything to evolutionary mechanic, then I agree.
First one is the lust factor, second the socio-economic factor of partner with high social status. Both come rarely in double pack. Second is usable, first one is likable.

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

This is genuinely starting to get concerning how far you’re taking this redpill satire stuff

[coachTanthony]

LOL oh no

[LazerBean]

I would be very surprised if most people think that far ahead.

[wiltingrosepetal]

I personally aim to obtain a man who will binge an anime with me while we cuddle but eh might just be me

[Tstrbrainer]

You should have added the word relationship goals lol😂.

Goals for is a broader term covering various aspects of life

[coachTanthony]

maybe lol

[douride2]

In my case I disagree with both of those. First I can't bare children so that is out the window. Second I have no need for a man to support me as I am doing better then most of the men I know.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Ideally yes, but the wold isn't ideal.

Most women and men aren't going to get the man or woman of their dreams.

Gotta settle for what they can get.

[Nikki1989]

Best genes?

Well if that is true, it sure hasn't worked too well now, has it?

[Kelly6]

@Nikki1989
Wow now that’s a fact too

[coachTanthony]

Sure it has for some.

[Imsmurter1]

I think for biology it's mainly the first goal. But the first goal can include the second goal to some degree.

[Anonymous]

To you genes are only about being over 6 feet and having a chiseled jaw and hunter eyes. Look at Gen Alpha kids, a lot of them are mentally ill taking multiple pills just to function properly. That doesn't sound like women are caring about the genes of the next generation. But of course as long as the kids get to be over 6'4 then mission accomplished, right? Have fun with your dysgenic but tall gene pool.

[midnightmoon05]

Those are good goals…if it’s just that simple.

Now that men know what women are looking for… makes dating so much easier right?

[thegreenyogi]

For me personally that's not a goal necessarily and it's never been my top priority so I am going to have to disagree with this one. Lol!

[sawno]

Biologically I agree with that as far as reproduction goes, from a psychological and sociological perspective humans are really complex.

[msc545]

You only mention one goal - what is the other one?

[coachTanthony]

secure the best genes and secure security for said genes

[msc545]

Ok. I think the goal is to obtain as much money and property as possible from the most attractive man they can find and entice.

[coachTanthony]

They want to secure the most attractive man’s genes …the security part could come from the average Joe later on.

[Anonymous]

Goals would require thought. And I don't think women today really put much thought into anything.

[jahaims]

Different people have different goals

[Kelly6]

@coachTanthony agree

[DextroShade]

Yes, I call it Alpha Fucks and Beta Bucks.

[Dinklex3]

Those aren’t my goals, lol.

[lastlyfound]

I totally agree with you

[loladevine]

I hate jeans

[lastlyfound]

Lol. Only skirts?

[loladevine]

@lastlyfound lulu lemon

[lastlyfound]

Why not onion?

[loladevine]

@lastlyfound cuz they’re racist and they called it thay so people witha Asian accent would have trouble saying it cause they can’t say Ls

[lastlyfound]

How about potatoes?

[BarryLiverstone]

Disagree

[Agape93]

Nope