Why is it so risky for a man to be platonic friends with women?

[Vegasrunner]

[MrOracle]

If you find the woman physically attractive at all, AND you like her personality, there's a pretty good chance that you'll at least want to sleep with her, if not be in a relationship with her. Either way, you're no longer platonic. Note: platonic doesn't mean "we don't do anything romantic or sexual", it means "we don't have any romantic or sexual INTEREST in each other." You aren't platonic if you have desires for her, or her for you.

Second, the majority of women use their male friends for "boyfriend benefits" - attention, to cry on your shoulder about some other man she's upset with, for free labor, and even "loans" of money that she never intends to pay back, because her daddy never expected her to pay back those "loans" either. Platonic friendships with most women tend to be incredibly one-sided - all of the benefits flow her way and all of the time and effort are the man's.

Obviously, you can do what you want with your own life - that's your decision and your consequences - but most men have figured out that it's not worth it. Most women LOVE male friends because they get all the benefits (including a "backup boyfriend option" that she never plans to need, but likes having in her back pocket), but without ever having to respect him.

[Vegasrunner]

@MrOracle Lol, men don't care about a women's personality.

[MrOracle]

If you are talking about the men who only use women for sex, you're right. For the men who are looking for a serious relationship, most absolutely do care about the woman's personality, and the few who don't are morons who deserve the chaos they will invite into their lives.

[Vegasrunner]

@MrOracle Men don't seek relationships. If they didn't bars, nightclubs and brestaraunts wouldn't be a thing. If a man hypothetically could have sex with a different woman daily he would do it until the end of time. Most men can't so to ensure sex, they have to pretend that they care about the things women like ie "personality"

[MrOracle]

I strongly disagree. Not that there aren't men like you describe - there certainly are - but that's not the majority, it's just the most visible.

[Vegasrunner]

@MrOracle That's a fair argument, however reality, and business practices validate my belief. If men cared as much about personality as you claim while is female sex used to sell so many goods and services?

[MrOracle]

Because fantasy is different from reality. It's the same reason that Ferrari sells 10,000 Ferrari hats for every one car it sells. Many people buy the hat because it's fun to think about owning the car, but the reality of owning the car is a much different experience.

Some percent of people will buy into the marketing even if only to a small degree, but not the majority. Still, if the marketing increases sales enough, it's successful.

[Vegasrunner]

@MrOracle You validate my point. If 10,000 could afford the Ferrari they would buy it, but they can't so they settle for a hat. Also it's a disingenuous statement t claim a "small degree" will buy in when sex is a multi billion industry

[MrOracle]

No, they wouldn't. Maybe a few would, sure, but most people understand that there is a big difference between fantasy and reality. In the fantasy, the car is perfectly tuned, perfectly running, gas is free, tires are free, and the road is open ahead of you. In reality, a Ferrari is likely to be undrivable four months a year on average as you wait for parts and/or service, and you will spend 10-20% of the car's value on annual maintenance.

The metaphor applies to women - banging a different girl all the time might be great in fantasy, but in reality, you are inviting constant drama and hassle into your life that most men don't want.

[Vegasrunner]

@MrOracle Reality doesn't seem to adhere w/ your anology. All the aforementioned industries wouldn't be a thing if what you were saying is true. What you're sharing is the female POV while attributing it to men. If what you were saying is true than why is it that every man that could get multiple women has gotten multiple women. Tiger Woods was married to a super model, Kobe Bryant to an 18 yro virgin. Hugh Heffener replaced 20 somethings for nearly 5 decades. I get that u feel a certain way but it doesn't line up with reality.

[MrOracle]

The kind of men who date multiple women are a particular kind of person. Yes, they were often born with advantages, but not all of them. Many worked hard to become the type who can get multiple women because it was their priority.

But as someone whose business relies heavily on wealthy people, I am around a lot of them. Not just for my day job, but also my side gig as a DJ. As such, I see them in relaxed environments as well as more professional ones. Many of these men are in their early 30s, reasonably good looking, and making $500k a year or more - some WAY more. Any of them could have a harem if they chose. Instead, most are married and have or are working on kids.

Maybe they banged everything that walked at 22, I can't say, but in their prime, most aren't out smashing new girls every night.

[Vegasrunner]

@MrOracle Yes the kind of men who date multiple women are known as High Value. I live in Vegas own a Real Estate business and was one of the top nightclub VIP host in the world 10-15 years ago. A random DJ isn't going to know anything about some guys they see in the club. There is no way you could know their age, income or relationship status its something you're making up to try to validate a point. Most men w/ status and money bang multiple women. That's why celebrities, tycoons athletes etc are know. There's literally a viral video going around of an NFL player pulling up to the club w/ a van full of hoes. You may not like it but pretending as if it's somehow an anomaly is crazy.

[MrOracle]

I wasn't talking about a club, I was talking about their events. Weddings, birthdays, anniversaries, and fundraisers. You are talking about celebrities in Vegas showing off, I'm talking about businessmen living their real lives.

Example: one of my customers, about 6 or 7 years ago, had DirecTV at several of his properties, and was having trouble getting one of them serviced. His response? He bought their headquarters building and explained to them that they would get the same response to their building issues. He might not be a celebrity, but buying a building at $800M to get some influence was nothing to him.

You are absolutely right about the kind of person who actively seeks celebrity, but those are a small percentage of the top guys, and the truth is that most celebrities are lucky to have 10 years "in the sun" - the ones who sustain a career for decades are really rare. The businessmen tend to climb their whole lives.

[Vegasrunner]

@MrOracle What does any of this have to do with the original question?

[Anonymous]

It's not risky at all, if you're not attracted to her physically, but you like her personality, all you can do is to be platonic friends with her.

[Vegasrunner]

@anonymous Men aren't attracted to women for personality if they were they would charge entry fees to libraries.

[Opinion Owner]

I know, if she's not hot, most men won't be attracted to her.
However, if you can talk to a woman, and if you share some common interests, you can be friends with her.
Or, if an unattractive woman likes you, you can always friend-zone her... after all, hot girls do that to men they don't like all the time.

[Opinion Owner]

Thanks for the MHO

[Vegasrunner]

@Opinon Owner sounds like you're missing the point. Whats in it for a man to be platonic friends with a woman?

[Opinion Owner]

The same what you have with your male friends - just friendship.

[Vegasrunner]

@Opinion Owner That's not true at all. My Male friends can help me in a fight, lift heavy things and provide insight on how to attract women as a man.

[Opinion Owner]

A girl who is a martial artist can help you in a fight.
A girl who goes to the gym can help you lift heavy things
And I thought that you already knew how to attract women as a man, lol (yes, it's me again) :P

[beenherebefore]

Because most Men who are friends with women usually have a secret hope that one day they'd get to sleep with them.

[Vegasrunner]

@beenherebefore Id argue all men who are friends with women share that hope.

[MzAsh]

The man will be more interested and available to her than she is to him, and his fee-fees will be hurt.

[Vegasrunner]

@MzAsh Yea, plus women don't really provide any value to men outside of sex so it would be a big waste of time.

[AI Opinion]

As your friendly flirtatious relationship coach, I'm here to spill a little truth tea. Society sometimes amplifies fears around platonic friendships due to worries of jealousy, lovebombing, or unplanned romantic feelings. But hey, let’s break the stereotypes! Platonic friendships can blossom without the drama if communication and boundaries are prioritized. It’s about mutual respect, not assuming every woman is a love interest. Keep it chill, and focus on the genuine connection that friendship offers. 🕶️✨

[Anonymous]

Because its never platonic. It means the guy wants the girl but isn't good enough to date. He is good enough to help her move or give her a ride home at 3am from a party with her boyfriend

[Alex-Snow]

No risk. If they are mature adults with common sense there should be no risk.

[Vegasrunner]

@Alex-Snow Why would age = risk midigation?

[Ariesman81]

More often than not she'll turn him gay