My ex even cheated on me 3 times with a guy that bullied her in HS, saying she "always wanted him"
So women, why do you disrespect yourselves like this?
First of all like many of the women have stated, women like this type of treatment to varying degrees, but in my opinion all of them like it at least to a minor extent. They just don't realize it, because its ingrained in the female psyche just like dominance is ingrained into the male psyche. There are a few factors that can determine what level of this treatment a girl is predisposed to have (self-esteem, family life, past relationships, personality, etc.), but ultimately you just have to feel out each girl as well as make the determination within yourself in terms of how far you are willing to go or change yourself without going against your own morals or changing who you are naturally.
On a basic level, women go for guys who treat them like crap for one reason. Women like to be dominated. A female friend of mine once told me that women want "dominance with a gentle hand". The problem is this is a very gray area and some guys fall to far on either side of the fence. Today's modern women has been taught that they should be worshiped by their man, that their man should do whatever they want, and that they should be respected at all times no matter what as if they are the highest authority, but in reality women do not want this. They have been brainwashed. Why do you think most women have sexual fantasies about being dominated in some way (hair pulling, spanking, or the guy just taking charge and throwing them to the bed). Why do you think some women have been quoted saying that they don't like how their man let's them walk all over them. Why do you think women like a guy who takes charge of the plans, guides her with a hand on her back, and takes the lead in most situations? Because women subconsciously want to be submissive. It turns them on. The guys who are jerks are taking this idea to an extreme level, which is why the girl will initially be unable to resist her sexual urge for such a guy, but eventually as her infatuation wears off, does figure out his behavior makes for a dysfunctional relationship and leaves him.
The final reason is that guys who are jerks appear to be alpha males. In every corner of the animal kingdom, the alpha males are the ones who get all the mates. Survival of the fittest, procreation of the most desirable traits. Women naturally gravitate towards the leader of the pack, not to the guy who treats them the best. While going to the nicest guy who treats them well would be the "logical choice" its not instinctive. Being an alpha male and being a jerk are completely different things, yet they are separated by a very fine line that many women are not predisposed to be able to see. So once again, his alpha male like behavior appeals to her sexual instincts, until the day her initial infatuation starts to wear off and she realizes that this guys is not as socially desirable as she once thought.
At the end of the day, the trick is to be somewhere in the middle.
So very true, well explained. I was reading this because it happened to me recently and I felt so attracted to this guy who is certainly an alpha male but very unreliable and treated me pretty bad (ignoring, forgetting about our plans, etc.) but I was more and more obsessed with him and super attracted as soon as I met him. I was considering why and beyond all the surfacey reasons people suggest came to the same conclusion: I like to be dominated (didn't always realize this).
The sad truth is that many women are attracted to "bad boys" and Mr Nice does get overlooked, due to him being too nice, too accomadating, basically too eager to please. Not all women are like this, like the ladies who have commented here, so it is fair to say we cannot put all women in this catergory.
I think it's important for us guys not to be over nice and over friendly and the type of guy that will do anything. It's important to show we have a life and won't just be door mats. But it's very important never to be a jerk, always show women the respect they deserve. I am a nice guy and very respectful towards women, but also I make sure I don't fall in the desperately nice guy catergory.
It's not that we necessarily like the treatment..it's the fact that the guy is treating us like garbage and we as women feel like we have to prove ourselves and that we are worthy of a male attention. It's how females are most of us are insecure in that way. But in the long run guys like that never win. When we actually wake up and realize that this guy is a complete jerk and probably has a small d*** we move on to a guy that treats us like a princess and those are the guys we get married to. Lot's of players are still single late in life and there is a reason for that!
Don't take it as blind hope it's the truth. You might think that all these guys are getting the girls now but you'll have your chance when you get older..its the women who need to grow up at this point not you. If they are going with the player type guys they are insecure and feel they need these type of men to prove themselves. In a few years when you have gotten married to the woman you love you can look back and see what the players have become..living in the parents basement bald and fat lol
am I confused or something I thought players have nice places to impress women not living in their parents basements lol. Well thanks for giving me the satisfaction of knowing my young adult life will be boring as hell and I'll just end up being a prude who gets married.
@adamcdavis
lol I think you took what I said the wrong way. Looks fade after awhile and people eventually do grow up. The players who have the girls now won't when they get older cause women will have realized what they are and they'll eventually be alone.
@Ryosanada
yeah unfortunately I guess that is human nature for you. We always feel like we have to prove to others our worthiness.
not that we like to be treated poorly.. .its just some women have lower self esteem and feel like the person is justified in treating them that way.. so they continually try to please them to make them treat them better .. if they get even the slightest difference in treatment for the better.. they feel like OK ok .. I'm doing the right thing. .the second the guy treats her poorly again.. she is going to keep trying to get him to treat her the way he did before (even if it was just that one time).
Women are attracted to the alpha male, not jerks. I believe guys have a very hard time striking the balance in between. They're either the jerk or the too-nice guy. The jerk, unfortunately, displays more of the characteristics of the alpha male than the too- nice guy. So women pick him because he has at least some of the traits that turn her on, even if his other ones suck.
If more men could strike that balance in between, alpha male and gentleman, jerks would never get women period.
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Don't generalize again, guys.
For me, I like the guys who are hardworking, responsible, protective, polite, kind, caring, gentlemen and those who respect themselves and respect me.
But I can't deny that there're a lot of girls who like bad boys. I don't know, maybe because they find them interesting?! But I think this's temporary and later they will realize that they were wrong.
I don't think every female does this.. but many of us do yes.
I myself have never had any need to be with someone who doesn't treat me nicely, why the hell would I? When I realize that the guy is a douchbag I always lose interest.
Maybe it has something to do with low self esteem.
Maybe it's because we have to proof to them that we are better then they think we are, or need the attention.
I hate questions like this, quiet frankly I hate douchey men, they only drag me down so why would i? I would just be a complete bitch to him if he tried to me an a**hole and say how it is, I don't want a guy who will constantly try to control me all the time, no thanks.
Yup and I think it's just to do with the fact they want to experience a lot of things when they are younger, even I'm feeling that way as a 21 year old, I wanna do and feel so much but not like that... I get enough guys taking the piss only wanting friends with benefits with me, it's just not nice feeling pissed off at every guy I've come across so far and not pissed off in a good way, I don't want to keep feeling it, nobody knows how many guys I've friendzoned in the last 2 years lol.
I think its a dominant type of thing. The guys who treat them like dirt are also fairly unpredictable and do what they want when they want. Its an aphrodisiac for women. However they want this bad boy to be a softy on the inside and want to change him.
Us men I feel are the opposite. We like those goody two shoes girls on the outside who are are a naughty little freak inside.
Exact opposites.
Many people think the same...it has happened to me, why would I lie, I admit it! but I realized too late...
You say "women" as if this apllies to all of us. It doesn't. And I AM a woman, so please don't put us all in one pot.
My brother is a Doctor he says that it's true women love poor treatment has something to do with dominance.
I think you're just focusing on the few women who always fall back on a guy. The vast majority of women don't feel the way you do.
Never have accepted it never will
I can't imagine why you got a down vote for saying this
Because I have haters because I'm 17 and have six kids
um, oh.
they are seen as more alpha, blame evolulition, biology for this
Because their brains are programmed that way, since birth.
the ones with mental issues yes!
Because they are the alpha male.
This one doesn't
i dont.
We dont.
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