Would This Basically Summarize What Religions Are in Your View?

[Snsl153]

This is an outline of the term that I just improvised at the time in response to someone's question about whether or not Christianity is a religion (he seems to think it isn't one for some strange reason). Religions have the following in common:
a) They make claims that cannot be confirmed via any known methods, like the scientific method
b) There is a cast of central characters
c) A set of core doctrines
d) Followers of those doctrines
e) Rituals
Note that believing in God or the gods isn't necessarily a requirement, because there are religions where that isn't the case (ex. Buddhism), and nor is acceptance of an afterlife (Judaism).

[MyAtaraxia]

I think religions have:
_ A set knowledge (summarized from you in "core doctrines" or beliefs)
_ An instrument to set them in time - space (ergo AC / DC, the bible, or the use of cities' names)
_ And a set of believers despite whatever is popular or even plural since as always is weird we agree in all the terms that are used.

I have seen a similar question before, and my answer at the time was that since there isn't and agreement in what it is, and is commonly consider as a set of cosmological beliefs, is even more unfactical to come to it, at least, a restrictive one.

[Lionman95]

I think it mostly meets all needed aspects. The reason many people argue christianity isn't a religion is rooted in its fundamental claim to come or be based on a direct revelation from God hence Jesus is God.
I would consider believing in some form of higher dimension as an important aspect because also Buddhism believes in some transcendental form of ending your life called nirvana.
Also Judaism has a such a place called scheol.

[jshm2]

Nope. Your assertion is laughable. Also about 60% of the worlds religious believers are in the Abrahamic faiths. Taosim isn't really a faith either.

Also, Islam and Christianity should be swapped round in your chart. Christianity is a shrinking religion, whereas Islam is a growing one, by most modern census.

Christianity isn't really a religion in many regards in that it wasn't founded, followed or believed by its central character, or his direct family. It didn't exist until around 40 years after him.

Religions are about morals and conduct - not evidence and examination. You're ill-informed thinking science is any sort of yardstick. Science can only deal with the physical and quantifiable. Religion and God are outside it's purview. It's like asking a lawyer to do brain surgery, because you believe he is as educated as the brain surgeon.

[Snsl153]

"Taoism isn't a faith..." - But it IS a religion. Also, why must a religion be Abrahamic in order to qualify? And why should the fact that 60% of the people of Earth believe in an Abrahamic religion? I think you've missed the entire purpose of this question.

[Snsl153]

Christianity isn't somehow special in the way it was founded. You do know that don't you?

[Snsl153]

"Why should the fact that 60% of the people of Earth believe in an Abrahamic religion MATTER", I meant. How is that relevant to the question?

[Agagagagaga]

@snsl153 Probably because you included a pie chart with total numbers for Abrahamic religions that was lower than what @jshm2 believes them to be.

I guess that’s why he specifically quoted the “60% number.” Your pie chart only has them at a combined total of 54.33%. I don’t know which one is right or especially care, I’m just explaining why he said it. Because you included a chart with numbers someone may disagree with those numbers. It happens. 🤷‍♂️

[Guy13]

How do you explain Science. When and how did science itself begin❓If the scientific method is the measuring stick, you should be able to explain how, firstly, Science came into being, cogently.
—The world awaits you to defend your claim without espousing your simpleton opinion.
—-You always make extraordinary claims but have nothing but opinion…never are you capable of working your claim out logically. It’s the saddest thing ever.

[Snsl153]

Science is a method of enquiry that has nothing to do with religion.

[Guy13]

No kidding, thats not an explanation.
—Again I will try. If Scientific method is measuring stick, as you suggested, then when and how did Science itself begin please.

[Snsl153]

Through a slow process of development over many centuries of time. One could argue the Ancient Greeks were the first to systematically study nature as is, without recourse to supernatural explanations, but it wasn't until the Middle Ages that people really began to try to figure out how everything worked. Laws of nature were formulated (ex. Kepler's Laws of Motion, Snell's Law), the mathematical formulae worked out, and by the time of Newton we were well on our way to leaving the superstitions of the past behind us.

[Guy13]

Got you, so you believe in the underpinnings of Physics. All of those theories and even Evoluion are processes or Effects.
—Surely, you can agree that either Something or Nothing can Self-conceive itself, Self-create or Self-start. Given those laws of Physics are then…
—How did the Resting Mass (rock), Resting Motion, and Resting Energy get there? Obviously, one can’t have Thermodynamics without those Resting States moved into Action states. Thermodynamics did not decide, while it was not, to self-conceive, self-create, or self-start into Being.
-Neither did evolution as from Nothing only Nothing can come. In other words, if there was ever Nothing there would still be Nothing today, however, there is Man, earth 🌍, and both physical and moral complexities formed by an Intelligent Design, therefore, Designer..
—So, from the Beginning there had to be Something. How did Resting Mass, Resting Motion, and Resting Energy get there?
-“because it is..” is a False Positive, logical fallacy, and both academically and ethically fraudulent.
—How did those Resting States get there? What caused them to move into Action States so that the Laws of Physics are, given, either Nothing or Something can self-conceive, self-create or self-start❓

[Guy13]

Cannot…typo🙃

[Snsl153]

No, you haven't "got me", because your paradigm is Medieval, and therefore outdated. And what's with all the weird capitalisations?

[Guy13]

How and Who started the “long process” that you stated…the long time period in which Science came to be? How about answer the Claim you made? I did not make it. It’s a simple question?

you're Opinion, because you do not want to deal with the Issue Mass, Motion, and Energy are not self-conceiving, Self-creating, and self-starting, DOES NOT MAKE IT SO. PROVE MY RESPONSE TO BE INCORRECT please‼️

So far, all you have told me is the Greek, Nature, Man (Being) self-conceived, self-created, and self-started. Because you self-decide and/or self-create Science starting at Medieval then Man must have became into Being at Medieval GIVEN our Science underpins both our Body and Mind. And the Earth was here for the Greeks to be on. How did the Earth get here?…how did that long process “spit out the Earth Mass”?
You claims are WITHOUT MERIT and dreamily Aimless. Do you not realize how feeble minded it is to say Science started with Greeks.-The Greeks are evidence that Science was before the Greeks, duh 🙄,
Whether it 2022 or In the Beginning God, you operate on a Delusion AND this is blatantly clear.
WHO, WHAT, HOW did this “long process”, that you claim, begin? What is this long time period/process? How was this time period/ processed formed? Who or What formed the process?

Every Effect has a Cause is not Medieval It’s so simple that my 7th graders get it.

[Lliam]

You really triggered this pseudo-rational, condescending, Bible thumper, Ssl153. LOL

I guess my question for him would be, "what created God?" And if "he" existed since forever, why did "he" wait until a mere 4.6 ago to "create" Earth and then wait 4.59 billion more years to create the first hominids?

Granted, science is a process of constant discovery and reevaluation. It evolves. But what's interesting is that the 4 or 5000 year old creation myth of nomadic, desert-dwelling goat herders is inviolable. LOL

[Guy13]

You can believe in God or not, that’s your Business. Defend your Claims as they are so nonsensical I can’t wait to hear you worm out of them…Greeks started Science. Science starts at Medieval etc…LUNACY.
—When one make Claims you have to address the individual challenges Line Item by Line Item. You don’t but not doing says it all.🤷🏻‍♂️

[Lliam]

Yet you don't challenge your "Holy book". LOL Talk about lack of critical thinking, Mr. Lunacy.

[Guy13]

Im sure Snsi153 is quite competent to speak for herself. I’m not speaking with you. You did not write the piece. She does not need you to save her. I’m through with you. You contribute nothing that helps her OR others who think the way you do.
I’ll be glad to engage at a later date. And on your Terms as I did with Ms. Snsl153. Later Liam.

I’m

[athlete_7]

Morales made by humans so that people dont commit sins and become chaotic as a society.

[KostasKouvalis]

That sounds right to me. I would add that they think THEIR believes are the right beliefs.

[anylolone]

That's a good way, but there will be religions that miss one or more of those points.

[hasara23]

Atheism is also a Religion.

[Birbman]

Except it's the lack or absense or beliefs. However, some people really want to make it look like one sometimes.

[Snsl153]

No it's not. Atheism is an absence of belief.

[Guy__]

There is something called atheism in the name of god.
That means not imagining that there's a daddy figure watching you, but that god is reality itself.