Why do Atheists ignorantly believe "scientific models" have solved everything (and without God)?

[Wade12345]

Let's not make mistakes. I'm a fan of science, but man-made sciences are INCOMPLETE MODELS they are not "the whole truth".

Example:
Neither Newton nor einstein nor quantum theory explains how Hurricanes and Tornadoes form. Now those are two different processes but both not at all explained my mainstream theory.

Here's the point. Light does not have any inherent SPIN component, except whatever it gets from the Sun, but how does the infrared light that heats the ocean then impart a 175mph sustained spin to Hurricane Katrina over the Gulf of Mexico, when we know good and well that Light does not spin? The Coriolis Effect does nto explain this either. There is virtually no "coriols force" between one side of Katrina's eye wall and the other side, that's just 80 miles apart, which is big for hurricanes but tiny compared to the planet. That doesn't explain where the Hurricane's spin came from either. When I pointed this out to a LEADING hurricane expert, he had no idea how to explain where the spin of a hurricane really came from, because he said it must be the quantum level but that we didn't have good enough computers (nor theory) to model that for a hurricane. As far as science goes, EVERYTHING comes from the quantum level, so that's not a complete explanation of anything. That's just an "educated guess".

So Science is incomplete, and yet Atheists insist "science" has "ruled out God" falsely.

I can tell you, quite the contrary, a very SCIENTIFIC God absolutely sent Hurricane Katrina, and a very SCIENTIFIC God absolutely killed 1800 people in the Hurricane and a very SCIENTIFIC God absolutely predicted Hurricane Ida to me two years ahead of time and sent that one too... and you liars rejected the prophecy after it came to pass.

[Anonymous]

We have a real life prophet posting on @GirlsAskGuys! And someone who loves science too!

Please post a specific and falsifiable prophecy us to evaluate. Nothing that you can currently point to in retrospect and say "I knew that would happen," but something that will happen in the near future and something those ungodly non-prophet mortals can possibly know about. Then we can all come here and evaluate your next claim, after it comes true of course.

You made a claim, now back it up.

[Wade12345]

I already did that several times in the past several years.

Neither I nor God is doing it again.

You are unworthy of my time.

[Wade12345]

You actually think that the Prophet can force God to give you a divine dream or sign on the spot. It doesn't' work that way. I don't know when God is speaking to me most of the time. It takes days, weeks, months, years sometimes to figure out whether a dream was just a pizza dream or whether it was a Divine Dream... soemtimes I don't know the answer myelf until it'stoo late to help anybody...

then NOBODY GIVES A DAMN ANYWAY AND THEY REBEL AGAINST GOD TEN TIMES WORSE AFTER THE DREAM COMES TO PASS.

SO TO HELL WITH YOU FOR EVEN ASKING. TO HELL WITH YOU.

[Opinion Owner]

I don't know. You made a strong claim, a claim that others made and couldn't prove. How do we know that you are the real deal? I don't think posting anonymously in GaG, telling us the things you got right, without proof, is very convincing. How will you convince us that you are a prophet?

[Wade12345]

This Atlantic Hurricane Season there is going to be a Category 4 hurricane off the Coast of Nova Scotia, farther north than a Category 4 has ever been on record.

This is an older dream of mine from God, and I'm now re-telling it so when it comes to pass you can shut up and sit down and know that God Almighty knows absolutely everything.

[Wade12345]

I'll give you another sign from THE TRUE CREATOR GOD.

The largest Earthquake in Human History is about to happen off the coast of Oregon.

I don't know whether the USGS has the technology to measure an Earthquake this big, but the true rating of the earthquake is apparently going to exceed Magnitude 10.2 on the Moment Magnitude scale.

The Earthquake si coming very soon.

Oregon "the" Earthquake is coming.

[Wade12345]

Time is 24 hours from NOW.

Oregon Magnitude 10.2 Earthquake, 24 hours from NOW.

I got rebuked for not obeying word for word.

Sorry.

[Opinion Owner]

So sorry. BZZZZZZZZ, You've been disqualified.

[SJ1984]

Only some scientists are like this, the arrogant few who don't seem to understand that science is simply a tool we use to determine how and why our physical reality is the way it is. The so-called science popularisers who like to appear on screen or write books (ex. Paul Davies, Neil deGrasse Tyson, Hawking before he died) often allow the fame to get to their heads, and they become cocky, thinking that simply because they're physicists they can explain everything. The problem is that they're not very well informed about topics outside the field they happen to specialise in, and will often just go on to embarrass themselves by saying things in public that are just patently stupid.

[OfDeath]

Well, looks like you're wrong again. Photons do actually have a spin. Heat excites atoms, excited atoms are more likely to collide with others, all changing spin rates.

To posit god, a fictional character as a reason for an occurrence you're just not able to explain is an abnegation of the intellect.

Go back to bed Wade.

[SamA_nold]

I’m an atheist, and I don’t believe that scientific models have solved everything. I think we have scientific models that have given us good standing upon to which we can make hypotheses and conclusions, but they are always open to being revoked as the information adapts. That is the beauty of the scientific process, it always corrects itself and is open to change, that way we aren’t basing our knowledge on biased assumptions and ignorance.

[SamA_nold]

As well, atheism is not the same as anti-theism. You are falsely correlating the two. Atheism is simply a rejection of the positive claim that “A god/s exists.” The negative, “A god/s does not exist.” Is a positive claim of anti-theism, and is equally responsible for providing evidence to prove the position.

[SamA_nold]

Fun fact: this is also called the “God of the Gaps” fallacy. The uncertainty, or the lack of an absolute certainty on a topic, does not mean that your god hypothesis holds any stronger standing.

[Wade12345]

Let me explain something to you:

God Almighty spoke to me and told me that in order to explain the Arabi tornaod blowing a house sky high over the horizon requires a PhD in Physics, and you still need to invoke God Almighty to do it.

Hurricane Camille was 175mph sustained winds with a RECORDED gust of 225mph, and yet Camille's winds did not blow houses sky high. Yes, it flattened everything it hit, but 160 to 175mph wind does not do what was recorded in the Arabi tornado, nor several other tornado videos I've seen whereby a tornado lifts a house vertically into the sky like Dorothy and the Wizard of Oz.

That is an ACT OF GOD, and the fact someone died in the house as it was destroyed shows it was Divine Judgment.

[SJ1984]

Wade - When you make a claim like that, that "God spoke" to you, why should anyone else believe you? Do you seriously expect others to just take your word for that? All that happened was that you heard voices in your skull, and thought that "God" was talking to you. How do you know it wasn't the devil, or early signs of a mental illness like schizophrenia?
And what's the point of your tornado story?

[jshm2]

You're confused.

Since when has it mattered what atheists even think about such matters?

You are aware they are a minority within a minority, right?

They make you waste your time, when they have nothing to lose either way. Just laugh at their ignorance and move on. They only have academic and scientific pretensions, nothing more.

[Jessica405]

We are learning all the time. Consider the age of the Earth and of human life. So much has been learned in the last few decades.

Two new boson particles found in the last few days, just as one example.

[Wade12345]

Their not exactly "new" nor even "exotic' they were already predicted by the Standard Model.

What they are hoping to find with the LHC, eventually, is hopefully find something that hasn't' already been predicted to exist and then further refine the models, because we already know the Standard Model does not actually "work". It's just "close to the truth, but not THE TRUTH".

[Wade12345]

Let me give you another idea of how big the discrepancy is between model and 'THE TRUTH" in meteorology alone, much less something like cosmology.

The Arabi tornado has evidence of temporary instantaneous bursts of wind of 600 to 800 mph as I have approximated it using wind formulas. It got rated by the NWS as "only" 160mph though.

The wind damage in tornadoes is accelerating 2x4s to 75 to 100mph in the space of 50 feet worth of acceleration. IN order to do that requires wind speeds of 600 to 800 mph.

This particular tornado blew one man's house SKY HIGH and no trace of the house was ever found and the man inside was later found dead. The NWS and news Media flat out do not know what ever happened to the house, it was never found.

I'm pretty much a self-educated expert on hurricanes and tornadoes, and I can tell you 160mph "instantaneous wind" does not do that much damage. It FLATTENS a house, yes, but it does not take it off the foundation and carry ti over the horizon (presumably the house was carried over the horizon and thrown into lake Pontchartrain... from 11+ miles away.

[Wade12345]

I'm not saying the "average velocity" of the tornado was that high. I'm saying in one of the mini-vortices the winds do somehow get that high to explain certain ballistic phenomena... which may only be a few meters wide vortex at peake intensity.

I invented a new damage metric to better quantify this phenomenon.

[Jessica405]

Too much for me. I was wrong anyway. The new particles are exotic groups of quarks.

Like I say, we are learning all the time. At one time, we had no models at all. Now we have approximations. Hopefully one day, we will have full models that fit exactly.

[Wade12345]

Further, scientists don't know why some warm-core tornadoes end up being just as strong as the strongest cold-core tornadoes. One of the strongest tornadoes on record, as far as official ratings goes anyway, is a warm core tornado: The Jarrel Tornado, and is also a ridiculously slow moving tornado. But th e"official" two strongest tornadoes on record are cold-core tornadoes and both hit Moore Oklahoma on the exact same plot of land.

The Jarrel Tornado formed from the bottom up.

The Moore tornado and the El Reno tornado formed from the top down.

Lesson of the day:

Almighty God can make a tornado either way, he can even make the tornado spin backwards, as 1 in 1000 tornadoes spin the "wrong" way for present theory to make sense, and nobody knows why that happens either.

[Wade12345]

Catastrophic Damage starts at 125mph for tornadoes and hurricanes anyway. Anything above that is academic.

[Wade12345]

It's been over 100 years ssince they proved that Photons are NEITHER particles nor waves, but behave like both... and yet we still haven't even invented a word for whatever the heck a Photon really is nor hypothesized whether there are other photon-like entities in the Universe.

What if Dark Matter or Dark Energy were "Photon-like"? Then maybe no particle detector we could ever design would detect them. We'd never know the difference between the "photons" and the "photon-like" particles striking the detector, as far as I could tell anyway.

But I've pointed that problem out to scientists. The reality we live in contains Angels and Demon Spirits, whether you like to admit that or not, an dthey are not physical beings, they are spiritual, so what exactly defines a spirit scientifically? I've eye-witnessed both angels and demons, and absolutely know they exist.

So there are other "entities" in reality besides just particles and waves, and photons are the first obvious proof of that fact. That's just the tip of the iceberg though.

[truthisthree]

atheist are religious nut jobs

that cannot prove their beliefs