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Almost every regime in history that propped up one religion over the other by law has limited the freedoms of every other religious group. In order to truly have freedom of religion the government needs to be neutral to all religions.
Here's the three major reasons why the United States was founded #1 tax evasion #2 freedom of religion or separation of church and state #3 the English royal family of the time kind of sucked
Also religion is dying out in the United States fewer and fewer people are believing in God so putting religion in the government would likely result in a civil war even if you could put religion into the United States laws
@crossdressingrihno What Libtards do then is become the most hypocritical bastards of all times. You can't have your cake and eat it too, whilst you replace God with Government. You still have a GOD. It just isn't freedom anymore. Sicking Government (aka GOD) down everyones throat and up your own asshole isn't helping you or anyone else.
@bayoubob what? No one is replacing God with government. The idea is not to replace God with anything. God is supposed to be worshipped the government isn't. Humans don't need God to make laws.
@This_is_my_opinion I hope you saw my opinion, see the 1969 interview with the director of planned parenthood. Replacing religion is the exact words used.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 If you are a Libtard, you are indeed replacing God with Government. You can't LIVE and LET BE. LIVE and LET DIE. Religious people don't care what I do, or believe. That is the way it should be. I don't care what other people do, so long as they don't infringe upon me. It's pretty fucking simple.
@bayoubob I agree with that last part. Everyone should be allowed to live as they see fit as long as they don't mês with someone else. But why the hell me being an atheist is replacing God with the government? I don't worship the government, I don't pray to them, I don't think they will carry me to the afterlife.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 It all depends. Are you a Libtard? A Biden junkie? You did not question me when I called you or others a Libtard. If you don't question it, then indeed by default Government is your GOD.
@bayoubob Because for me to question when you call me and others a Libtard I would actually have to care. That is senseless to me, I am not even from the US. Regarless the logic is flawed. There christian liberals just like there are athiest republicans. An athiest is someone who does not have a belief in God. Just that. Political opinion is irrelevant.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 You are a fence sitter. No one cares. So, what in this crazy ass perfect storm of life and Universe does not get you Agnostic? Do you answer the questions? Chicken before the egg? What is your purpose? You cannot answer these things. You just die. No one has a finger on your pulse? No soul. Why can't we die when see fit? If you truly believe you aren't going to reverse aging, if you truly believe you will not shit and piss your self just like when you entered this world? What makes you think you can control anything? You just want God to do something. To not prolong anything beyond that. I don't want to live to be 100. or 90, or 82. Or even 45. Do you know when you have lived a full life? I don't believe you do.
What you are effectively doing whether you like it or not. Is to pray. That you do not get a condition that finds you taking a walk in the woods or cemetery and blasting a hole in your noggin. At the same time, you want that. Who will give you the balls? To not enter an old folks home? Simple logic says the most basic of instincts will not allow you to. When you wish for it, you will not have it. So why do so many people die innocently? When you can trade your life. God does what he wants to do. You don't have a choice.
@bayoubob didn't understood half of that rambling. The egg came first. My purpose in life is to live and be happy. That is it. I don't want to control the world, and my take is that I don't believe in a bigger power that does.
But I'm confident that humans were genetically engineered by the ancients, and they had the technology, similar to how the pyramids can't be replicated to this day.
I have a simple point. We don't know anything. Nobody can simply say why we do this and that. Everything is so mentally fucking retarded we can't wrap our minds around it. You wake up, you piss, you shit. Live thusly and free as can be. When people decide they are holier than thou art? That is when things get fucked.
Look guys this is devolved into nonsense. I have read it through this entire thing multiple times and every time I read through it, it just gets more confusing. I get you guys have strong opinions on the matter but insulting each other and using fallacies isn't going to convey a point. This has basically become spam and I just hope you guys can understand that neither of you are getting anywhere and in the end of this conversation won't change a thing aside from annoying both of you and myself
@crossdressingrihno Cross dressing weirdo. We do not care. Cross Dress to the hilts. Cross dress to the point of self anointing yourself a RIHNO? Put yourself in hand cuffs. Bleed in your pussy. Show it off. It's RINO? Do you get that? Rihno? What the fuck is a RIhNO? I get it, now. You self absorb and don't know what you are.
@bayoubob dont get mad at me because the wife left! look im not a cross dresser i just thought the name was funny. anyways chill out and quit being a prick.
I feel wisdom can come from many different places. The Bible is one of them. Ofc I am not saying we should used the Bible as a rule book but as a place of wisdom.
That part is good. To bad the old testament doesn't apply it at all. I am not criticizing you, I agree that the good parts of the bible should be taken to society. Problem is that bible that many horrific parts too.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Well its not like the world was build on a clean soul either. Plenty of blood was spilled in order to make the world. Blood is still be spilled. The good and the bad is a part of who we are as a species. We must learn to not make the bad happen again and make the good, better for all
We absolutely would know good from evil without needing the bible. Vast majority of the prison inmates in the US are christian. On the other hand most athiest countries are some of the most safe places to live on this planet. Not to mention periods in history like the dark ages, the inquisition and the cruzades.
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All the New Testament plus the 10 Commandments FOR SURE !!!
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You want "do not covet" written into law? What about adultery? How do we put "honor your mother and father" into a law? What's the punishment for working on the Sabbath day? What's the punishment for saying "god dammit"? Can you define what an idol is in order to make it a crime to make one?
1) You shall have no other gods before Me. 2) You shall not make idols. 3) You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain. 4) Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 5) Honor your father and your mother. 6) You shall not murder. 7) You shall not commit adultery. 8) You shall not steal. 9) You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor. 10) You shall not covet.
No, not even that. The first commandment about "not having other gods before me" is vague to the point of being utterly useless, because no one even knows who this god is. In Exodus 3:14, when asked by Moses, he simply replies, "I am what I am". What does that mean? I ask because I have no idea, but perhaps you do.
@Snsl153 Someone asked that question and I addressed about 30 minutes ago. It is much deeper and there are not to many on here with the ability to reach into the depths of God. You happen to be one of these who God is calling and regenerating anew. Attributes of God thing I mentioned to you some time ago addresses this...
You do not have to reinvent the wheel AND I am not doing it. ALL you have to do is read about the Founders, study the Constitution, and put the effort into it. I can provide you with two sources to start where you can both read Original docs and get a critical review that is worthy of your time. www.wallbuilders.com
The previously given website is my favorite because MY Simple Mind gets what he says The following one is for the Public but the Regent crowd or someone aspiring to Clerk for a Judge goes here. There's this 13 year old girl on here that can handle the following...
All I see is ignorant and lazy damaged minds who "throw the baby with the water".
As most other spiritual texts, the bible is obviously esoteric. Definition of esoteric : 1a: designed for or understood by the specially initiated alone 1b: requiring or exhibiting knowledge that is restricted to a small group 2a: limited to a small circle
Does that ring any bell? Not saying that you can't start learning the esoteric meaning. Rather whatever you were indoctrinated with in childhood doesn't invalidate the rest of scripture.
Actually something does invalide it 100%, I'll soon be saying that the bible is pure garbage. And to see why, read my opinion on this question.
I think religion should not be involved in politics and government. that's because i think religion is a personal thing and not something to generalize even for people who don't believe in that religion but happen to be in that country
look at all the so-called witches burned at the steak when the church had too much power most didn't even practice witchcraft but were not church goers
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none. religion and politics should not mix. that's why we're "secular".
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American law should not be influenced directly by the bible, but it definitely should be guided by right and wrong, so there should be a lot of consistency between our laws and what is taught in the bible.
Most of it is already our whole judicial system is based on the 10 commandments Thou shall not kill = murder 1st degree,, etc
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As a Christian saying this… none! People should choose to follow the law of God that’s why God gave us free will. Why would he give people free will and then this same people try to force this law on us. Makes no sense
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Ideally all the moral laws since God's laws moral are perfect, but America isn't a theocracy nor does the U. S. A. constitution allows to make laws according to religion laws to govern a nation.
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Almost every regime in history that propped up one religion over the other by law has limited the freedoms of every other religious group. In order to truly have freedom of religion the government needs to be neutral to all religions.
Here's the three major reasons why the United States was founded
#1 tax evasion
#2 freedom of religion or separation of church and state
#3 the English royal family of the time kind of sucked
Also religion is dying out in the United States fewer and fewer people are believing in God so putting religion in the government would likely result in a civil war even if you could put religion into the United States laws
@crossdressingrihno What Libtards do then is become the most hypocritical bastards of all times. You can't have your cake and eat it too, whilst you replace God with Government. You still have a GOD. It just isn't freedom anymore. Sicking Government (aka GOD) down everyones throat and up your own asshole isn't helping you or anyone else.
Freedom of Religion and Freedom period is what you should seek.
What?
I'm not saying we should base our laws off religion and even if I were I would choose a god from my religion an not any Christian god
What if the government is replacing themselves for religion? Try reading my opinion. I just wish I had one single reply.
What? The government taking in religion?
If that happens I would stage a coup d'etat myself
@bayoubob what? No one is replacing God with government. The idea is not to replace God with anything. God is supposed to be worshipped the government isn't. Humans don't need God to make laws.
@This_is_my_opinion I hope you saw my opinion, see the 1969 interview with the director of planned parenthood. Replacing religion is the exact words used.
@Guy_ can you stop avertising your opinion please?
I don't wanna be rude but I'm sure if it's worth looking at people will see it.
Ok ok. But let me ask you one question. Did you see my opinion?
Well I saw it got some downvotes but then they were taken back, so somebody must be reading it but I'm not getting conversations there.
Yeah I read the whole thing
I didn't expect a reply, it was a joke. But seriously, did you see it? Lol.
Look just above your question
I said I'm joking.
You my friend should work at a car lot
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 If you are a Libtard, you are indeed replacing God with Government. You can't LIVE and LET BE. LIVE and LET DIE. Religious people don't care what I do, or believe. That is the way it should be. I don't care what other people do, so long as they don't infringe upon me. It's pretty fucking simple.
@bayoubob I agree with that last part. Everyone should be allowed to live as they see fit as long as they don't mês with someone else.
But why the hell me being an atheist is replacing God with the government? I don't worship the government, I don't pray to them, I don't think they will carry me to the afterlife.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 It all depends. Are you a Libtard? A Biden junkie? You did not question me when I called you or others a Libtard. If you don't question it, then indeed by default Government is your GOD.
@bayoubob Because for me to question when you call me and others a Libtard I would actually have to care. That is senseless to me, I am not even from the US.
Regarless the logic is flawed. There christian liberals just like there are athiest republicans.
An athiest is someone who does not have a belief in God. Just that. Political opinion is irrelevant.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 What kind of Kamala "The Toe' 'Heels Up' Harris world salad is that, that you spew?
@bayoubob slowly for you then.
Athiest is just the person that does not believe in God.
Just that.
It is not related to any political party.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 You are a fence sitter. No one cares. So, what in this crazy ass perfect storm of life and Universe does not get you Agnostic? Do you answer the questions? Chicken before the egg? What is your purpose? You cannot answer these things. You just die. No one has a finger on your pulse? No soul. Why can't we die when see fit? If you truly believe you aren't going to reverse aging, if you truly believe you will not shit and piss your self just like when you entered this world? What makes you think you can control anything? You just want God to do something. To not prolong anything beyond that. I don't want to live to be 100. or 90, or 82. Or even 45. Do you know when you have lived a full life? I don't believe you do.
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What you are effectively doing whether you like it or not. Is to pray. That you do not get a condition that finds you taking a walk in the woods or cemetery and blasting a hole in your noggin. At the same time, you want that. Who will give you the balls? To not enter an old folks home? Simple logic says the most basic of instincts will not allow you to. When you wish for it, you will not have it. So why do so many people die innocently? When you can trade your life. God does what he wants to do. You don't have a choice.
@bayoubob didn't understood half of that rambling.
The egg came first.
My purpose in life is to live and be happy. That is it.
I don't want to control the world, and my take is that I don't believe in a bigger power that does.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 What came before the egg? Pure nothingness? How do you get something from nothing?
That is mystery I haven't solved.
But I'm confident that humans were genetically engineered by the ancients, and they had the technology, similar to how the pyramids can't be replicated to this day.
@bayoubob dinosaurs were putting eggs long before chickens existed.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 So? What the fuck does this have anything to do with the price of tea in China?
I have a simple point. We don't know anything. Nobody can simply say why we do this and that. Everything is so mentally fucking retarded we can't wrap our minds around it. You wake up, you piss, you shit. Live thusly and free as can be. When people decide they are holier than thou art? That is when things get fucked.
Look guys this is devolved into nonsense. I have read it through this entire thing multiple times and every time I read through it, it just gets more confusing. I get you guys have strong opinions on the matter but insulting each other and using fallacies isn't going to convey a point. This has basically become spam and I just hope you guys can understand that neither of you are getting anywhere and in the end of this conversation won't change a thing aside from annoying both of you and myself
@crossdressingrihno Cross dressing weirdo. We do not care. Cross Dress to the hilts. Cross dress to the point of self anointing yourself a RIHNO? Put yourself in hand cuffs. Bleed in your pussy. Show it off. It's RINO? Do you get that? Rihno? What the fuck is a RIhNO? I get it, now. You self absorb and don't know what you are.
You are right the conversation has become a mess because he got very off topic suddenly.
@bayoubob dont get mad at me because the wife left!
look im not a cross dresser i just thought the name was funny. anyways chill out and quit being a prick.
None. That's the whole point of the separation that still hasn't ever happened since the founding fathers wanted it.
I feel wisdom can come from many different places. The Bible is one of them. Ofc I am not saying we should used the Bible as a rule book but as a place of wisdom.
Place of wisdom? What wisdom does it have?
The obvious of don't kill people, don't steal from others. Do onto others as they do onto you. That's a small amount that I know of.
You don't need the bible to know that.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Ik but all I am saying is that their is wisdom in it if ya look for it and try to apply to modern day society.
That part is good.
To bad the old testament doesn't apply it at all. I am not criticizing you, I agree that the good parts of the bible should be taken to society. Problem is that bible that many horrific parts too.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Well its not like the world was build on a clean soul either. Plenty of blood was spilled in order to make the world. Blood is still be spilled. The good and the bad is a part of who we are as a species. We must learn to not make the bad happen again and make the good, better for all
Then instead if listening to a book, let's just listen to ourselves. eaen from past mistakes and make our own decisions on right and wrong.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Yes we could do that but how many people would care to listen to what other people would say?
That is as far as I know one of the biggest problems in the world. People don't care to listen.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Yea it is
All of these that are accurate. Most of today's moral system of Western World is based on Bible - "do not kill" "do not steal" etc.
True. Because without the Bible we wouldn’t know not to kill or steal.
Some don't this basic fact.
We absolutely would know good from evil without needing the bible. Vast majority of the prison inmates in the US are christian.
On the other hand most athiest countries are some of the most safe places to live on this planet.
Not to mention periods in history like the dark ages, the inquisition and the cruzades.
None. I believe in separation of church and state.
For it to be part of laws regarding everyone it should first be a topic that everyone believes in.
All the New Testament plus the 10 Commandments FOR SURE !!!
You want "do not covet" written into law? What about adultery? How do we put "honor your mother and father" into a law? What's the punishment for working on the Sabbath day? What's the punishment for saying "god dammit"? Can you define what an idol is in order to make it a crime to make one?
1) You shall have no other gods before Me.
2) You shall not make idols.
3) You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.
4) Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
5) Honor your father and your mother.
6) You shall not murder.
7) You shall not commit adultery.
8) You shall not steal.
9) You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
10) You shall not covet.
No, not even that. The first commandment about "not having other gods before me" is vague to the point of being utterly useless, because no one even knows who this god is. In Exodus 3:14, when asked by Moses, he simply replies, "I am what I am". What does that mean? I ask because I have no idea, but perhaps you do.
@Snsl153 Someone asked that question and I addressed about 30 minutes ago. It is much deeper and there are not to many on here with the ability to reach into the depths of God. You happen to be one of these who God is calling and regenerating anew. Attributes of God thing I mentioned to you some time ago addresses this...
You do not have to reinvent the wheel AND I am not doing it. ALL you have to do is read about the Founders, study the Constitution, and put the effort into it. I can provide you with two sources to start where you can both read Original docs and get a critical review that is worthy of your time. www.wallbuilders.com
The previously given website is my favorite because MY Simple Mind gets what he says The following one is for the Public but the Regent crowd or someone aspiring to Clerk for a Judge goes here. There's this 13 year old girl on here that can handle the following...
www.americanheritage.com
All I see is ignorant and lazy damaged minds who "throw the baby with the water".
As most other spiritual texts, the bible is obviously esoteric.
Definition of esoteric :
1a: designed for or understood by the specially initiated alone
1b: requiring or exhibiting knowledge that is restricted to a small group
2a: limited to a small circle
Does that ring any bell?
Not saying that you can't start learning the esoteric meaning.
Rather whatever you were indoctrinated with in childhood doesn't invalidate the rest of scripture.
Actually something does invalide it 100%, I'll soon be saying that the bible is pure garbage. And to see why, read my opinion on this question.
American isn't really a Christian nation to begin with. So the question is moot.
I think religion should not be involved in politics and government. that's because i think religion is a personal thing and not something to generalize even for people who don't believe in that religion but happen to be in that country
America should be heavily influence by The Bible. 💞
look at all the so-called witches burned at the steak when the church had too much power most didn't even practice witchcraft but were not church goers
You are talking the Roman Catholics. God has not part of them as they are not Christian.
none. religion and politics should not mix. that's why we're "secular".
American law should not be influenced directly by the bible, but it definitely should be guided by right and wrong, so there should be a lot of consistency between our laws and what is taught in the bible.
Most of it is already our whole judicial system is based on the 10 commandments
Thou shall not kill = murder 1st degree,, etc
As a Christian saying this… none! People should choose to follow the law of God that’s why God gave us free will. Why would he give people free will and then this same people try to force this law on us. Makes no sense
Ideally all the moral laws since God's laws moral are perfect, but America isn't a theocracy nor does the U. S. A. constitution allows to make laws according to religion laws to govern a nation.
Thou shalt not kill
Thou shalt not steal
Thou shalt not bear false witness against your neighbor (perjury)
IF there are any normal people here (still), then you may think I’m Twippin Twippin but no. That’s force, God doesn’t force. Pingas
Constitution states separation of church and state and should remain that way.