You see the good sides like loving and understanding. I see the bad sides like sharia and Al-Shabaab, Al-Qaeda etc.
Both are the truth so why do you find it it upsetting?
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You see the’ bad sides’ because you chose too, maybe if you actually gave yourself the chance to learn about the religion and educate yourself you’d say something different. Islam is a religion of peace not terror and violence, while some Muslims chose to follow the religion properly other ‘Muslims’ chose to go against it and commit such wrong acts that go against the religion which is what your talking about , you can't blame the actions of some on all.
Middle Eastern people caused 9/11 and most terrorist attacks on other countries, so it's pretty self-explanatory why people dislike them so much and wouldn't want to be within the same vicinity as them
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ok but like you said ‘Middle Eastern’ thats got nothing to do with Islam that’s cultural not religious. you can’t hate a religion over the actions of some who are very clearly going against the religion and representing it wrong by not following the rules correctly as islam forbids killing and violence but everyone is too brainwashed to see that and only want to believe what they see not the actual truth sadly.
Do you still think that the attacks were carried out by Muslims? This kind of massacre is strictly prohibited in Islam. In Islam, a person who kills himself definitely goes to hell. So, are those who started world wars Muslims? Are the Germans who murdered the Jews Muslims? Are those who dropped atomic bombs on Japan muslims? Are the Japanese occupying Asia even Muslims? Is Europe that exploits africa muslim? America is an excuse to create fake Islamic terrorist organizations, denigrate Muslims and start a war for oil in the Middle East.
Simple question. Hamas & Hezbolla want to kill all jews. Do you condemn Hamas & Hezbollah?
Second question, lets say you have a sister & she told your family she was marrying a Christian & dropping Islam. What would you do?
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Killing all Jews? i find that wrong and do not support. As for the second question I wouldn’t do anything, everyone can make their own decisions you might of expected me to do something but the thing is like I said everyone can make their own decisions, I can’t force anything on anyone if someone wants to be a muslim they should do it by their own will not by the force of others, I can only give guidance if they ask for my help I can’t force the religion on anyone because from the outside they might make it seem like their following the religion and believe it to shut me up but in private will be the opposite which is why I would never force anything on anyone if they don’t want to
Thankyou and of course I did because I practice islam the way any real Muslim should, those ‘Muslims’ who commit acts of violence use Islam as an excuse for their actions but the reason they act like that is because they have pure hatred in their hearts and do not follow the religion correctly because if they did they wouldn’t be doing such horrible crazy stuff they would be people of peace and love like the Quran teaches us
It’ll take time. Originally when the irish immigrated to the west everyone hated them said they’ll ruin everything. Then the Italians… then Indians…. and so on. Now all assimilated and generally accepted. Muslims will too eventually
I have no idea. I'm the son of immigrants, Mother (passed away now) was Muslim too. Tunis native, Paris raised. Whenever I live in areas that aren't immigration port cities, I run across junkie deadbeat douchebags who contribute literally ZERO to society... yet hate on everyone else who's NOT self destructing. Good riddance I say. Let them self eliminate. We'll take their places, because we WANT an educated, safe community full of people who encourage others to achieve their goals.
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Sorry for your loss, may Allah swt grant her jannah❤️, I agree with everything your saying your right 🙏🏻
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They are ignorant. Like all bigots, they'll try to logically rationalize their bigotry, but they are just ignorant. They haven't seen enough of the world or read enough factual history.
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Thankyou I agree with what your saying , finally someone with some common sense
I’m surprised to hear you say that about London. Everything I’ve heard is that the Muslim population in England has a huge amount of power and they aggressively crackdown on anyone talking poorly about Muslims
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Yes that is also true people are very defensive here towards all types of discrimination not just Islam. but sadly there are still islamaphobic people that exist
To the second edit you made about speaking the truth on Islam; don’t you think it’s possible that the people who are speaking negatively about Islam may have had negative experiences with it?
I understand what your saying for example I know so many people that have had it hard such as being forced to marry, being beaten because they did something wrong, having their hair shaved to wear the hijab. none of this is islamically right. this is religious trauma they grew up in a family that didn’t practice Islam correct so they start to think Islam is the problem but the problem is their families chose culture over religion and raised them on culture, they start to blame Islam for their trauma I find it very sad and feel sorry for these people that they went through these hard times and got traumatised badly that they left islam because like I said they think Islam was to blame, but the only people to blame here are their parents for moulding the religion into something that suited them so they could use Islam as an excuse to abuse their children. How do you expect your kid to follow a religion if your not even following it correctly yourself and torturing your kids? This is the result of following culture not religion
Please click on the link below or copy and paste it into your browser, read it carefully, and then reply to me. Please have an open mind when reading it since it is from the Koran with no changes at all. Thank you
Top_ten_rules_in_the_Quran_that_oppress_women. pdf (unite-production. s3. amazonaws. com)
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Did you spend a lot of time to look for this lol? Don’t try educate me on my own religion, taking things out of context and twisting to make a religion look oppressive is not ok. Women have loads of rights in for example if she doesn’t want the husbands last name after marriage she is allowed to keep her own, forcing anything is not allowed, when a women miscarries the fetus rescues her by pulling the mother using the umbilical cord into heaven, a womens money is only her money and the husbands money is hers and his, when she becomes a mother heaven lies under her feet these are just some examples of many but no you don’t want to be talking about this instead you want to be taking things out of context by some stupid website you’ve found and use it against me to show your hatred towards my religion. Here’s some advice maybe actually read the Quran properly instead of trying to educate me on my own religion when I’m more educated about it and as a muslim women if I was so oppressed then why would I willingly stay in a religion like this? And also love yourself and find peace with in yourself rather than being so full of hate and trying to make a religion of peace seem ‘oppressive’ I don’t get it like if a religion is so oppressive and full of violence then why would people become muslim?
No, i did not have to spend much time on this. I already knew these facts which you cleverly ditched answering (typical with most religious people) You can LOL all you want but the link i sent you could not be answered by 2 Islamic Scholars here in California either so don't feel bad. Please do note that i have this for every religion and not just Islam, so since you seem like a person who likes to "assume" things, do not assume that my comments are only towards Islam. All religions have their ambiguities
I don’t feel bad I simply don’t care as like I said I did answer, my answer was it’s been taken out of context and twisted. Women have rights in islam I know this as a female muslim , it’s sad tbh being so hateful towards a religion when instead you can educate yourself and learn more about it yourself. And not all Islamic scholars are actually scholars by the way so don’t trust and believe them so the link not being answered by them doesn’t really prove a point to me. I’m very happy and at peace with my religion I’m not being oppressed or being beaten up and even if I was I know in the other world the person l would get punished by God for committing such sin and acts
Okay. It seems like you WANT to believe it and it makes your comfortable. That is fine. Believe in your imaginary religion since the real one says something else in its holy book
don’t worry I’ll believe what I think is the truth while you disrespect people and carry pure hatred in your heart which doesn’t benefit you or me when instead you can be abit more respectful and educate yourself on something you think you know about.
there’s a difference between not carrying the same beliefs with someone and being ok with that , and a difference between wording your reply in a disrespectul way when you can just respect everyone.
Please allow me to explain... What i meant was that when you read something (i do not mean you per say, but when anyone) and you understand what it clearly says, do not try to imagine other meanings for it. It clearly states it so why change its meaning to satisfy your decision? Example: I do not like the taste of Pepsi Cola... it clearly means i do not like the taste of that particular soda. No ifs or buts... But if someone is claiming that every human being loves the taste of Pepsi and you show him my comment, he/she will try to make an "imaginary meaning" for it by making a statement like "oh, he means he does not like the taste of Pepsi Cola at the time he was asked this question or he may like Diet Pepsi, etc. etc... anything to justify and continue believing what he/she has believed throughout his/her life that Pepsi's taste is loved by all which, in reality, is not true since someone CLEARLY stated that he does not like the taste of Pepsi.
That was the argument with communism and marxism, these countries are the only examples we have. Saudia Arabia beheaded people in shopping car parks, Iran hanging people from cranes, it is all justified by Sharia. Good old Mo had a nine year old wife called Aisha today he would spending his life in jail.
It is not true that Saudia Arabia behead people? It is not true that Iran hangs homosexuals? It is not true that Aisha was 9 years old? Which bit was not true? The really funny story in the Koran is the bit about baby Jesus speaking like an adult lol
Everything your saying is false, classic islamaphobic women who looks like a state and only wants to believe in the wrong version of Islam that allows her to hate on it. imagine having this much hatred towards a religion your so uneducated about , but thanks for proving my point of uk being islamaphobic x
I accept and respect everyone’s opinions but not when your spreading false information and disrespecting peoples beliefs. I hope you find peace , have a nice evening x
'who looks like a state' you give yourself away, no doubt you think my face should be covered with a burkha. Coming on here playing the victim and then playing classic misogynistic tropes is appalling.
I don’t think your face should be covered with anything you have the right to do as you like just like everyone else, I don’t find it right how you come on here to speak about Islam but speak about it incorrectly and try to bash it , I believe everyone’s religion and race should be respected you dont have to agree with it but if your willing to talk on something make sure what your saying is true. respect&kindness is how I treat everyone including you but you want to be such a hateful person when instead I can respect you, you can respect me. take my advice to educate yourself so that next time you want to speak on Islam you will speak about it correctly, there’s a difference between disagreeing but respecting a religion and a difference between viewing the religion the way that you chose to view it based on false information you’ve brainwashed yourself with instead of the truth. I’m not going back and forth I can't help someone that doesn’t want to learn the truth
I have nothing against people who are muslim but I am entitled to point out that the religion of Islam is a dangerous superstition. I am also entitled to read Charlie Hebdo without being blown up.
good to know, have nothing else to say and will leave it at that because it’s up to you if you want to listen to my advice and find the truth about Islam , I can't force you to educate. anyways have a nice day
to me a pretty face is nothing if you have an ugly heart I believe that whoever you are on the inside shows on the outside but on the other hand I find everyone beautiful in their own way. which I wouldn’t necessarily say you have an ugly heart or a face as you did say you don’t have anything against muslims that shows somewhat you have some decency and I believe your view on Islam is based on false information but that’s up to you to believe or not like I said can't force one to educate themselves on the truth. so I take what I said back as I don’t want to be one of them muslims that represent Islam wrong by showing hate instead of showing kindness as an individuals character is one of the most important aspects of islam
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Because that damn religion and its followers have a history of doing terrorist attacks.
Believe it or not, I literally have two muslim women sitting right in front of me as I type this at table at the gym talking on the phone. LOL
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ok so if all Muslims are terrorists then surely them two women sitting right Infront of u would bomb u wouldn’t they? violence and terrorism is against Islam, Islam is perfect but not all Muslims are perfect as they go against the religion and twist the rules to suit them and use Islam as an excuse for their horrible behaviour which makes people like yourself disrespect and have such a negative view on Islam, those terrorists that commit such acts are going against Islam and are not the true representation of Islam. I suggest you educate yourself you sound like every other brain washed person, it’s sad because you say this and think you are right like I said terrorism & violence is forbidden in islam therefore the religion is not to blame , if all Muslims followed Islam correctly then this wouldn’t happen.
A phobia is an irrational fear. If you're sitting quietly on a plane and one of the passengers jumps up screaming "Allah Akbar!" and waving a machine gun it's not irrational to be scared.
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Saying Allah Akbar, nothing is wrong with that. However waving a machine gun would be forbidden in islam as it would scare people. So your point doesn’t make sense you can't base it on people who don’t folllow the religion correctly
Yes That also doesn’t make sense i never said it did , such acts are forbidden in islam so any Muslim that claims that’s allowed in the religion is not following the religion correctly.
Yes but just because someone practices their religion wrong it doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with the religion itself, Blame the person not the religion
Well I mean I can’t tell if your being sarcastic , as the first replies you said weren’t very nice. But if you are being serious then thank you I appreciate that and I wish you all the best
To be fair, no one has time to understand any religion. I am a Muslim but I also like to read up old and new testament stories from time to time. I think it is interesting. But living in Pakistan you can count the number of people would do the same.
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hi brother first of all I hope you are well , I understand no one has time to understand any religion, but the thing is if you want to comment on a religion you should make sure what your saying is true and learn the religion as a whole before picking and choosing what part of it you want to learn, I believe that people should learn and educate themselves about Islam before bashing the religion because clearly they are not educated enough.
Yes but the same can be said by others about us. We Muslims need to stop relying too much on Hadith and stuff that's not in Quran. It makes our case weak so to speak. People claiming to get hands checked and so on on a very serious footing. And in South Asian scenario, Muslims in our region particularly like to label European or Central Asians as Non Muslims for drinking or eating Horse even.
I don’t rely on anything that’s not in the Quran? I follow and practice islam, eating horse and drinking is not allowed in islam so I don’t get what point ur trying to make.
That's what I am saying. We have our own set of rules we attribute to Hadith and Sunnah but God only promised protection of Quran. We want to see our cultural aspect as part of religion too
it’s actually very funny to be honest how your just like every other sterotypical islamaphobe, what you’ve shown in the photo is actually forbidden in islam and in no way represents it. educate yourself then come back
Did you miss the whole part of Mohammed executing prisoners of war?
ISIS exists and commits atrocities BECAUSE your religion tells them to do so. Like they don't think about the context of one sentence of "kill the polytheists" but just fucking kill them period.
Also tell me why are muslims statistically more likely to rape people if their religion was against it hmmm? How do you think westerners would be treated if they would come to Muslim countries and start raping women en masse? Would it be tolerated? Hardly.
Prophet Mohammed, Peace & Blessings -declared Muslims, pagans, and Jews of his state as one people with full freedoms
Isis the terrible terror -has no regard for people of other faiths like Christians and Yazidis
Prophet Mohammed, Peace & Blessings -ordered Muslims to protect churches
Isis the terrible terror -destroys churches
Prophet Mohammed, Peace & Blessings -abided by his treaties and agreements
isis the terrible terror -breaks all treaties
Prophet Mohammed, Peace & blessings -Prohibited calling a Muslim a Kafir
Isis the terrible terror -calls everyone a Kafir who does not follow them
Prophet Muhammad, God’s peace and blessings be upon him, is described in the Quran as a Mercy to all of the worlds. He came to establish peace, justice, law, and order. As the table above notes, ISIS is diametrically opposed to everything he taught and expected his followers to adhere to.
ISIS does not represent Islam or Muslims. Have a nice day and remember to educate yourself before you speak on things you clearly have no knowledge on👍
The issue is people like yourself only want to view Islam as bad because you force yourself to believe it’s that way when actually if you did enough research you would see your wrong , it’s sad to see to be honest to be this hateful towards a religion you know so little about. Why would I willingly be stupid enough to follow Islam if its so violent abusive oppressive? When I can just not follow a religion or chose to be part of any other religion?
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Trump. He planted the seeds of a bogus caravan, how the covid was the "Kung Flu". How Mexicans are murders and rapists. and whatever comes out of Faux News, Newsmax, and what was OAN.
Guess people are scared because of terrorist attacks. But that is just a tiny few people out of millions of Muslims. Lack of understanding and fear of the unknown is normally the case with racist behavior
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Thankyou for your comment I really appreciate you being understanding and actually making sense unlike some people. Sadly some so called ‘Muslims’ commit such horrific acts and use the excuse of being Muslim when Islam forbids terrorism.
If someone moves to your country and chants "death to infidels" it kind of sets the stage.
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that’s not actually true any muslim that justifies killing of innocent people are not true Muslims because they do not obey the Qur’an verses which teach ‘You shall not kill - God has made life sacred’, Muslims who kill the unbelievers are mistaken; verse 9:6 is enough proof for their mistakes, because Muslims are supposed to protect the unbelievers and they cannot protect them after killing them. this is why people need to educate themselves and practice religion properly because that’s how the true Muslims get punished for the actions of those who do not practice Islam correctly
no true muslim would commit such an act because in the quran it says "If anyone kills a person, it would be as if he killed the whole people: and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people’. But let’s say even if the 911 terrorists were ‘Muslim’ why should all Muslims be held accountable and punished for this? when what they have done is a sin and not allowed in islam so why’s it getting taken out on Islam? If 911 terrorists were non Muslim no one would even question what their beliefs are
As I have currently lived in the UK for near enough 10 years now, I would not say that is true. Everyone is so expecting after all the UK is one of the most cultural and diverse places to live in the world!
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you might not think it’s true but as a muslim I have experienced islamaphobia and seen it too that’s why I’m speaking on this, there are so many lovely people in the UK even if they don’t carry the same beliefs as someone else they show interest towards religion& culture and want to learn more and respect them which I love but sadly like I said I have both seen and experienced islamaphobia&racism being born and raised in the UK. It depends on what part of UK you live in really
People do not like the hateful islamic religion and if someone is muslim and follow that religion they know that the person follows the insane ramblings of an illiterate pedophile merchant warlord.
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Lol see people like you just comment on things you have no knowledge about without educating yourself. Islam is not hateful is a religion of peace. Everyone loves to label islam as ‘terrorism’ ‘hateful’ ‘pedophilia’ ‘beheading’ ‘rape’ ‘killing’, when islam is against innocent killing and harm towards others. If islam was a hateful religion I wouldn’t be a muslim then would I? Educate yourself about the truth on islam then come back.
Thereligionofpeace. com I can assure you, your refusal to admit the insanity of the Islamic religion is probably why you feel people are racist towards you
Nobody labels, Islam, anything it’s actions, speak louder than words.
Child marriage and marriage rape is very common and accepted.. You’re did he married Aisha when she was six and consummated the marriage when she was nine he was in his 50s.
You’re in the Islamic religion because if you choose not to be, you will be murdered the punishment for denouncing your religion is death. you can pretend it is a choice all you want you know, as much as I do that you are not allowed to denounce it out of fear of death.
I can assure you, if Islam was so insane I wouldn’t be a part of it and you don’t want to educate yourself on it because you want to believe it’s an insane religion
Fear of death?😂😂😂😂 who’s gonna kill me for not being a muslim, no ones forcing me but that’s actually funny tho for you to think that. If I didn’t truly believe in islam then I wouldn’t defend it and claim being a muslim both in public & private. Child marriage & marriage rape happens in culture not religion so once again your stupid false claims are proof that your uneducated and have no knowledge on Islam. Aisha being young etc all that is all a lie , people twist words of quran
Yeah, all of those are fathers who have killed their daughters for denouncing religion they didn’t exist. See that’s the problem is you know that this bullshit is real but like everyone else in your religion you pretend it’s not and then tell people that the religion is peaceful anyone who goes to the religion of peace. com can see what that religion is actually about the actions do speak louder than words, regardless of your refusal to accept them.
Islam is perfect but not all ‘Muslims’ are as they don’t follow the religion correctly and go against it by doing such things you can’t blame this on the whole Islamic community
K. 2.190: "fight in the way of Allah with those who fight with you... And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers."
Ok but I don’t get what point your trying to make? Those who take part in such acts are going against the religion so they aren’t representing and following the religion correctly. You can't have an opinion on a religion and blame the religion over the actions of some who are sinning and going against Gods words.
See this is what happens when you get your information on unreliable sources instead of searching for the truth. Don’t twist and change the words of the quran
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You see the good sides like loving and understanding. I see the bad sides like sharia and Al-Shabaab, Al-Qaeda etc.
Both are the truth so why do you find it it upsetting?
You see the’ bad sides’ because you chose too, maybe if you actually gave yourself the chance to learn about the religion and educate yourself you’d say something different. Islam is a religion of peace not terror and violence, while some Muslims chose to follow the religion properly other ‘Muslims’ chose to go against it and commit such wrong acts that go against the religion which is what your talking about , you can't blame the actions of some on all.
Middle Eastern people caused 9/11 and most terrorist attacks on other countries, so it's pretty self-explanatory why people dislike them so much and wouldn't want to be within the same vicinity as them
ok but like you said ‘Middle Eastern’ thats got nothing to do with Islam that’s cultural not religious. you can’t hate a religion over the actions of some who are very clearly going against the religion and representing it wrong by not following the rules correctly as islam forbids killing and violence but everyone is too brainwashed to see that and only want to believe what they see not the actual truth sadly.
Do you still think that the attacks were carried out by Muslims? This kind of massacre is strictly prohibited in Islam. In Islam, a person who kills himself definitely goes to hell. So, are those who started world wars Muslims? Are the Germans who murdered the Jews Muslims? Are those who dropped atomic bombs on Japan muslims? Are the Japanese occupying Asia even Muslims? Is Europe that exploits africa muslim? America is an excuse to create fake Islamic terrorist organizations, denigrate Muslims and start a war for oil in the Middle East.
Simple question. Hamas & Hezbolla want to kill all jews. Do you condemn Hamas & Hezbollah?
Second question, lets say you have a sister & she told your family she was marrying a Christian & dropping Islam. What would you do?
Killing all Jews? i find that wrong and do not support. As for the second question I wouldn’t do anything, everyone can make their own decisions you might of expected me to do something but the thing is like I said everyone can make their own decisions, I can’t force anything on anyone if someone wants to be a muslim they should do it by their own will not by the force of others, I can only give guidance if they ask for my help I can’t force the religion on anyone because from the outside they might make it seem like their following the religion and believe it to shut me up but in private will be the opposite which is why I would never force anything on anyone if they don’t want to
Ok. You passed the non crazy test.
Thankyou and of course I did because I practice islam the way any real Muslim should, those ‘Muslims’ who commit acts of violence use Islam as an excuse for their actions but the reason they act like that is because they have pure hatred in their hearts and do not follow the religion correctly because if they did they wouldn’t be doing such horrible crazy stuff they would be people of peace and love like the Quran teaches us
It’ll take time. Originally when the irish immigrated to the west everyone hated them said they’ll ruin everything. Then the Italians… then Indians…. and so on. Now all assimilated and generally accepted. Muslims will too eventually
I have no idea. I'm the son of immigrants, Mother (passed away now) was Muslim too. Tunis native, Paris raised. Whenever I live in areas that aren't immigration port cities, I run across junkie deadbeat douchebags who contribute literally ZERO to society... yet hate on everyone else who's NOT self destructing. Good riddance I say. Let them self eliminate. We'll take their places, because we WANT an educated, safe community full of people who encourage others to achieve their goals.
Sorry for your loss, may Allah swt grant her jannah❤️, I agree with everything your saying your right 🙏🏻
They are ignorant. Like all bigots, they'll try to logically rationalize their bigotry, but they are just ignorant. They haven't seen enough of the world or read enough factual history.
Thankyou I agree with what your saying , finally someone with some common sense
I’m surprised to hear you say that about London. Everything I’ve heard is that the Muslim population in England has a huge amount of power and they aggressively crackdown on anyone talking poorly about Muslims
Yes that is also true people are very defensive here towards all types of discrimination not just Islam. but sadly there are still islamaphobic people that exist
To the second edit you made about speaking the truth on Islam; don’t you think it’s possible that the people who are speaking negatively about Islam may have had negative experiences with it?
I understand what your saying for example I know so many people that have had it hard such as being forced to marry, being beaten because they did something wrong, having their hair shaved to wear the hijab. none of this is islamically right. this is religious trauma they grew up in a family that didn’t practice Islam correct so they start to think Islam is the problem but the problem is their families chose culture over religion and raised them on culture, they start to blame Islam for their trauma I find it very sad and feel sorry for these people that they went through these hard times and got traumatised badly that they left islam because like I said they think Islam was to blame, but the only people to blame here are their parents for moulding the religion into something that suited them so they could use Islam as an excuse to abuse their children. How do you expect your kid to follow a religion if your not even following it correctly yourself and torturing your kids? This is the result of following culture not religion
Please click on the link below or copy and paste it into your browser, read it carefully, and then reply to me. Please have an open mind when reading it since it is from the Koran with no changes at all. Thank you
Top_ten_rules_in_the_Quran_that_oppress_women. pdf (unite-production. s3. amazonaws. com)
Did you spend a lot of time to look for this lol? Don’t try educate me on my own religion, taking things out of context and twisting to make a religion look oppressive is not ok. Women have loads of rights in for example if she doesn’t want the husbands last name after marriage she is allowed to keep her own, forcing anything is not allowed, when a women miscarries the fetus rescues her by pulling the mother using the umbilical cord into heaven, a womens money is only her money and the husbands money is hers and his, when she becomes a mother heaven lies under her feet these are just some examples of many but no you don’t want to be talking about this instead you want to be taking things out of context by some stupid website you’ve found and use it against me to show your hatred towards my religion. Here’s some advice maybe actually read the Quran properly instead of trying to educate me on my own religion when I’m more educated about it and as a muslim women if I was so oppressed then why would I willingly stay in a religion like this? And also love yourself and find peace with in yourself rather than being so full of hate and trying to make a religion of peace seem ‘oppressive’ I don’t get it like if a religion is so oppressive and full of violence then why would people become muslim?
No, i did not have to spend much time on this. I already knew these facts which you cleverly ditched answering (typical with most religious people) You can LOL all you want but the link i sent you could not be answered by 2 Islamic Scholars here in California either so don't feel bad. Please do note that i have this for every religion and not just Islam, so since you seem like a person who likes to "assume" things, do not assume that my comments are only towards Islam. All religions have their ambiguities
I don’t feel bad I simply don’t care as like I said I did answer, my answer was it’s been taken out of context and twisted. Women have rights in islam I know this as a female muslim , it’s sad tbh being so hateful towards a religion when instead you can educate yourself and learn more about it yourself. And not all Islamic scholars are actually scholars by the way so don’t trust and believe them so the link not being answered by them doesn’t really prove a point to me. I’m very happy and at peace with my religion I’m not being oppressed or being beaten up and even if I was I know in the other world the person l would get punished by God for committing such sin and acts
Okay. It seems like you WANT to believe it and it makes your comfortable. That is fine. Believe in your imaginary religion since the real one says something else in its holy book
don’t worry I’ll believe what I think is the truth while you disrespect people and carry pure hatred in your heart which doesn’t benefit you or me when instead you can be abit more respectful and educate yourself on something you think you know about.
You like using the word HATE when someone disagrees with you... work on that! Meanwhile, take good care.
there’s a difference between not carrying the same beliefs with someone and being ok with that , and a difference between wording your reply in a disrespectul way when you can just respect everyone.
Please highlight the areas where i was disrespectful. Thank you in advance
‘Imaginary religion’
Please allow me to explain... What i meant was that when you read something (i do not mean you per say, but when anyone) and you understand what it clearly says, do not try to imagine other meanings for it. It clearly states it so why change its meaning to satisfy your decision? Example: I do not like the taste of Pepsi Cola... it clearly means i do not like the taste of that particular soda. No ifs or buts... But if someone is claiming that every human being loves the taste of Pepsi and you show him my comment, he/she will try to make an "imaginary meaning" for it by making a statement like "oh, he means he does not like the taste of Pepsi Cola at the time he was asked this question or he may like Diet Pepsi, etc. etc... anything to justify and continue believing what he/she has believed throughout his/her life that Pepsi's taste is loved by all which, in reality, is not true since someone CLEARLY stated that he does not like the taste of Pepsi.
Here's the link in compressed form, OP.
unite-production.s3.amazonaws.com/.../...women.pdf
https://tinyurl.com/363ea93n
@MCheetah why are you still here talking lol? obsessed much
Because so many Islamic countries are oppressive like Iran and deny women their rights. This does not excuse it.
I know I don’t agree with what these countries are doing, they are not representing Islam because their not following it correctly
That was the argument with communism and marxism, these countries are the only examples we have. Saudia Arabia beheaded people in shopping car parks, Iran hanging people from cranes, it is all justified by Sharia. Good old Mo had a nine year old wife called Aisha today he would spending his life in jail.
but it’s not though, what your saying is not true maybe if you researched into Islam properly and educated yourself.
It is not true that Saudia Arabia behead people? It is not true that Iran hangs homosexuals? It is not true that Aisha was 9 years old?
Which bit was not true?
The really funny story in the Koran is the bit about baby Jesus speaking like an adult lol
superstitious drivel
Everything your saying is false, classic islamaphobic women who looks like a state and only wants to believe in the wrong version of Islam that allows her to hate on it. imagine having this much hatred towards a religion your so uneducated about , but thanks for proving my point of uk being islamaphobic x
Try not to ask questions if you are not prepared to accept other peoples opinions.
You are welcome:)
I accept and respect everyone’s opinions but not when your spreading false information and disrespecting peoples beliefs. I hope you find peace , have a nice evening x
'who looks like a state' you give yourself away, no doubt you think my face should be covered with a burkha.
Coming on here playing the victim and then playing classic misogynistic tropes is appalling.
'who looks like a state' that is your example of respect?
I don’t think your face should be covered with anything you have the right to do as you like just like everyone else, I don’t find it right how you come on here to speak about Islam but speak about it incorrectly and try to bash it , I believe everyone’s religion and race should be respected you dont have to agree with it but if your willing to talk on something make sure what your saying is true. respect&kindness is how I treat everyone including you but you want to be such a hateful person when instead I can respect you, you can respect me. take my advice to educate yourself so that next time you want to speak on Islam you will speak about it correctly, there’s a difference between disagreeing but respecting a religion and a difference between viewing the religion the way that you chose to view it based on false information you’ve brainwashed yourself with instead of the truth. I’m not going back and forth I can't help someone that doesn’t want to learn the truth
I have nothing against people who are muslim but I am entitled to point out that the religion of Islam is a dangerous superstition. I am also entitled to read Charlie Hebdo without being blown up.
good to know, have nothing else to say and will leave it at that because it’s up to you if you want to listen to my advice and find the truth about Islam , I can't force you to educate. anyways have a nice day
care to apologise for 'who looks like a state' before you depart?
to me a pretty face is nothing if you have an ugly heart I believe that whoever you are on the inside shows on the outside but on the other hand I find everyone beautiful in their own way. which I wouldn’t necessarily say you have an ugly heart or a face as you did say you don’t have anything against muslims that shows somewhat you have some decency and I believe your view on Islam is based on false information but that’s up to you to believe or not like I said can't force one to educate themselves on the truth. so I take what I said back as I don’t want to be one of them muslims that represent Islam wrong by showing hate instead of showing kindness as an individuals character is one of the most important aspects of islam
I accept your apology but please remember judging a religion or philosophy is acceptable judging an individual on their looks is not.
Because that damn religion and its followers have a history of doing terrorist attacks.
Believe it or not, I literally have two muslim women sitting right in front of me as I type this at table at the gym talking on the phone. LOL
ok so if all Muslims are terrorists then surely them two women sitting right Infront of u would bomb u wouldn’t they? violence and terrorism is against Islam, Islam is perfect but not all Muslims are perfect as they go against the religion and twist the rules to suit them and use Islam as an excuse for their horrible behaviour which makes people like yourself disrespect and have such a negative view on Islam, those terrorists that commit such acts are going against Islam and are not the true representation of Islam. I suggest you educate yourself you sound like every other brain washed person, it’s sad because you say this and think you are right like I said terrorism & violence is forbidden in islam therefore the religion is not to blame , if all Muslims followed Islam correctly then this wouldn’t happen.
I'm educated regarding Islam. I read the Quran.
There are the serious Muslims who take the Quran seriously and obey to do violence and those Muslims who are lukewarm and don't take Islam seriously.
If your educated you should know those who practice Islam correctly are not people of violence
A phobia is an irrational fear. If you're sitting quietly on a plane and one of the passengers jumps up screaming "Allah Akbar!" and waving a machine gun it's not irrational to be scared.
Saying Allah Akbar, nothing is wrong with that. However waving a machine gun would be forbidden in islam as it would scare people. So your point doesn’t make sense you can't base it on people who don’t folllow the religion correctly
Well hijacking a plane and flying it into the World Trade Center doesn't make sense either.
Yes That also doesn’t make sense i never said it did , such acts are forbidden in islam so any Muslim that claims that’s allowed in the religion is not following the religion correctly.
Anyone can be bad at their religion. I don't judge anyone by their religion, I judge them by their actions.
Yes but just because someone practices their religion wrong it doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with the religion itself, Blame the person not the religion
Well you sound very nice. I think we would get along very well.
Well I mean I can’t tell if your being sarcastic , as the first replies you said weren’t very nice. But if you are being serious then thank you I appreciate that and I wish you all the best
I'm never sarcastic.
To be fair, no one has time to understand any religion. I am a Muslim but I also like to read up old and new testament stories from time to time. I think it is interesting. But living in Pakistan you can count the number of people would do the same.
hi brother first of all I hope you are well , I understand no one has time to understand any religion, but the thing is if you want to comment on a religion you should make sure what your saying is true and learn the religion as a whole before picking and choosing what part of it you want to learn, I believe that people should learn and educate themselves about Islam before bashing the religion because clearly they are not educated enough.
Yes but the same can be said by others about us. We Muslims need to stop relying too much on Hadith and stuff that's not in Quran. It makes our case weak so to speak.
People claiming to get hands checked and so on on a very serious footing. And in South Asian scenario, Muslims in our region particularly like to label European or Central Asians as Non Muslims for drinking or eating Horse even.
I don’t rely on anything that’s not in the Quran? I follow and practice islam, eating horse and drinking is not allowed in islam so I don’t get what point ur trying to make.
Check again, pork meat is not allowed according to Quran. Horse meat is not prohibited. That's what I am saying. We think we know it all but we don't
It’s makruh which isn’t haram but disliked.
That's what I am saying. We have our own set of rules we attribute to Hadith and Sunnah but God only promised protection of Quran. We want to see our cultural aspect as part of religion too
yes but we shouldn’t mix culture and religion because God knows the best
Yes 👍
They are just idiots.
You should not fear such bigots. Rather, be happy that they are more scared of you, than you are of them.
no one should be scared of everyone we are all the same, but in a way that is a good way to think I agree Thankyou
Hmmm I do wonder why Islam has a bad reputation?
it’s actually very funny to be honest how your just like every other sterotypical islamaphobe, what you’ve shown in the photo is actually forbidden in islam and in no way represents it. educate yourself then come back
Did you miss the whole part of Mohammed executing prisoners of war?
ISIS exists and commits atrocities BECAUSE your religion tells them to do so.
Like they don't think about the context of one sentence of "kill the polytheists" but just fucking kill them period.
Also tell me why are muslims statistically more likely to rape people if their religion was against it hmmm?
How do you think westerners would be treated if they would come to Muslim countries and start raping women en masse?
Would it be tolerated? Hardly.
Prophet Mohammed, Peace & Blessings
- said to be merciful to people so God is merciful to you
Isis the terrible terror
-angers God by being merciless to humanity
Prophet Mohammed, Peace & Blessings
- banned killing prisoners
Isis the terrible terror
-enjoys beheading prisoners
Prophet Mohammed, Peace & Blessings
-prohibited killing any civilians
Isis the terrible terror
- kills civilians, including children
Prophet Mohammed, Peace & Blessings
-established law and order
Isis the terrible terror
-seeks to destroy law and order
Prophet Mohammed, Peace & Blessings
-campaigned to end slavery
Isis the terrible terror
-is reestablishing slavery
Prophet Mohammed, Peace & Blessings
-freed all of his slaves
Isis the terrible terror
-enslaves people
Prophet Mohammed, Peace & Blessings
-prohibited rape
Isis the terrible terror
-engages in rape
Prophet Mohammed, Peace & Blessings
-established peace among warring tribes of Arabia and different religious groups
Isis the terrible terror
-terrorizes and rejects peace among people
Prophet Mohammed, Peace & Blessings
-expressly forbade burning any creature alive
Isis the terrible terror
-burns people alive
Prophet Mohammed, Peace & Blessings
-declared Muslims, pagans, and Jews of his state as one people with full freedoms
Isis the terrible terror
-has no regard for people of other faiths like Christians and Yazidis
Prophet Mohammed, Peace & Blessings
-ordered Muslims to protect churches
Isis the terrible terror
-destroys churches
Prophet Mohammed, Peace & Blessings
-abided by his treaties and agreements
isis the terrible terror
-breaks all treaties
Prophet Mohammed, Peace & blessings
-Prohibited calling a Muslim a Kafir
Isis the terrible terror
-calls everyone a Kafir who does not follow them
Prophet Muhammad, God’s peace and blessings be upon him, is described in the Quran as a Mercy to all of the worlds. He came to establish peace, justice, law, and order. As the table above notes, ISIS is diametrically opposed to everything he taught and expected his followers to adhere to.
ISIS does not represent Islam or Muslims. Have a nice day and remember to educate yourself before you speak on things you clearly have no knowledge on👍
The issue is people like yourself only want to view Islam as bad because you force yourself to believe it’s that way when actually if you did enough research you would see your wrong , it’s sad to see to be honest to be this hateful towards a religion you know so little about. Why would I willingly be stupid enough to follow Islam if its so violent abusive oppressive? When I can just not follow a religion or chose to be part of any other religion?
Trump. He planted the seeds of a bogus caravan, how the covid was the "Kung Flu". How Mexicans are murders and rapists. and whatever comes out of Faux News, Newsmax, and what was OAN.
I agree.
Guess people are scared because of terrorist attacks. But that is just a tiny few people out of millions of Muslims. Lack of understanding and fear of the unknown is normally the case with racist behavior
Thankyou for your comment I really appreciate you being understanding and actually making sense unlike some people. Sadly some so called ‘Muslims’ commit such horrific acts and use the excuse of being Muslim when Islam forbids terrorism.
If someone moves to your country and chants "death to infidels" it kind of sets the stage.
that’s not actually true any muslim that justifies killing of innocent people are not true Muslims because they do not obey the Qur’an verses which teach ‘You shall not kill - God has made life sacred’, Muslims who kill the unbelievers are mistaken; verse 9:6 is enough proof for their mistakes, because Muslims are supposed to protect the unbelievers and they cannot protect them after killing them. this is why people need to educate themselves and practice religion properly because that’s how the true Muslims get punished for the actions of those who do not practice Islam correctly
Put the blame where it belongs.
What your saying doesn’t make sense tho! Islam doesn’t promote what your saying I’ve proved you wrong
please don’t try to teach me about my religion instead try to educate your self as you are wrong , and just a hateful person
Were the 911 terrorists Muslim?
no true muslim would commit such an act because in the quran it says "If anyone kills a person, it would be as if he killed the whole people: and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people’. But let’s say even if the 911 terrorists were ‘Muslim’ why should all Muslims be held accountable and punished for this? when what they have done is a sin and not allowed in islam so why’s it getting taken out on Islam? If 911 terrorists were non Muslim no one would even question what their beliefs are
Go educate the terrorists.
I don’t need too, they will be punished in the other world for their actions.
Cool beans.
As I have currently lived in the UK for near enough 10 years now, I would not say that is true. Everyone is so expecting after all the UK is one of the most cultural and diverse places to live in the world!
you might not think it’s true but as a muslim I have experienced islamaphobia and seen it too that’s why I’m speaking on this, there are so many lovely people in the UK even if they don’t carry the same beliefs as someone else they show interest towards religion& culture and want to learn more and respect them which I love but sadly like I said I have both seen and experienced islamaphobia&racism being born and raised in the UK. It depends on what part of UK you live in really
As a jew I understand your pain. I live in London as well. I understand it is hard but most people I come across are lovely!
People do not like the hateful islamic religion and if someone is muslim and follow that religion they know that the person follows the insane ramblings of an illiterate pedophile merchant warlord.
Lol see people like you just comment on things you have no knowledge about without educating yourself. Islam is not hateful is a religion of peace. Everyone loves to label islam as ‘terrorism’ ‘hateful’ ‘pedophilia’ ‘beheading’ ‘rape’ ‘killing’, when islam is against innocent killing and harm towards others. If islam was a hateful religion I wouldn’t be a muslim then would I? Educate yourself about the truth on islam then come back.
Thereligionofpeace. com
I can assure you, your refusal to admit the insanity of the Islamic religion is probably why you feel people are racist towards you
Nobody labels, Islam, anything it’s actions, speak louder than words.
Child marriage and marriage rape is very common and accepted.. You’re did he married Aisha when she was six and consummated the marriage when she was nine he was in his 50s.
You’re in the Islamic religion because if you choose not to be, you will be murdered the punishment for denouncing your religion is death. you can pretend it is a choice all you want you know, as much as I do that you are not allowed to denounce it out of fear of death.
I can assure you, if Islam was so insane I wouldn’t be a part of it and you don’t want to educate yourself on it because you want to believe it’s an insane religion
Fear of death?😂😂😂😂 who’s gonna kill me for not being a muslim, no ones forcing me but that’s actually funny tho for you to think that. If I didn’t truly believe in islam then I wouldn’t defend it and claim being a muslim both in public & private. Child marriage & marriage rape happens in culture not religion so once again your stupid false claims are proof that your uneducated and have no knowledge on Islam. Aisha being young etc all that is all a lie , people twist words of quran
Yeah, all of those are fathers who have killed their daughters for denouncing religion they didn’t exist. See that’s the problem is you know that this bullshit is real but like everyone else in your religion you pretend it’s not and then tell people that the religion is peaceful anyone who goes to the religion of peace. com can see what that religion is actually about the actions do speak louder than words, regardless of your refusal to accept them.
Any regards to Ayesha being nine when the insane warlord raped her
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Aisha%27s_Age
I guess because of riots like in Brussels a few days ago. It makes Western European cities less safe.
What’s that got to do with muslims tho?
Mulims are making those riots. Moroccans, to be precise.
its cultural , it’s got nothing to do with muslims. like you said morrocans blame them not muslims
Morrocans are Muslims.
The same can be said about Muslims from other countries, in cities like Paris or Marselie.
yes some morrocan are Muslim but their behaviour isn’t caused by islam.
Islam is perfect but not all ‘Muslims’ are as they don’t follow the religion correctly and go against it by doing such things you can’t blame this on the whole Islamic community
99% of Morrocans are Muslims according to statistics. Even if not all of them are that religious, still a vast majority of them are.
K. 2.190: "fight in the way of Allah with those who fight with you... And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers."
Ok but I don’t get what point your trying to make? Those who take part in such acts are going against the religion so they aren’t representing and following the religion correctly. You can't have an opinion on a religion and blame the religion over the actions of some who are sinning and going against Gods words.
See this is what happens when you get your information on unreliable sources instead of searching for the truth. Don’t twist and change the words of the quran
Taught
Remember, hitler didn't come out of the womb saying "death to jews". He was taught to hate
that is true , they are taught to hate but they don’t have to stay that way when they could educate and learn the truth instead of being so hateful