Why do Christians claim Jesus destroyed the Law when Jesus himself said He would NOT destroy the Law?

[Wade12345]

Jesus actually said, "Until Heaven and Earth Pass away, not one Jot or Tittle shall in any wise pass away from the Law until all things are fulfilled."

This means whatever nonsense Paul was teaching was just that: complete nonsense. The Law of God cannot change because God himself does not change and because God does not break his own laws.

So for example, "Thou shalt not steal" and "thou shalt not commit adultery" and "Thou shalt not covet" are still in force. Those are fundamental laws of God which are the same everywhere for all created beings for all of space and time.

What exactly did Jesus alleged death and resurrection accomplish? Nothing. Samuel wrote, "Obedience is greater than sacrifice and to acknowledge (God) is greater than all whole burnt offereings."

Isaiah wrote that God did not want your sacrifices nor your feast days and oblations and solemn assemblies. He wanted a broken and contrite heart.

So how is righteousness obtained? The same way any other merit is obtained: Obey! Obedience is greater than sacrifice.

You cannot find anything in the Law and Prophets claiming a coming man-god would die and that would magically save anyone from sin. What you can find is God telling people OBEY.

[Anonymous]

Matthew 5:17-18

“Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

All things fulfilled being the Prophesied Messiah dying for our sins.

[Wade12345]

No. All things fulfilled means all things fulfilled. Either he said what he meant, or he should have kept his mouth shut. Considering he got put to death for being a blasphemer, he should have kept his mouth shut at other times too.

[Opinion Owner]

He fulfilled his role as the messiah

[Wade12345]

Even if that were true, which it isn't, but even if it were, that is not "all things".

The Jewish Messiah is not a man-god. God is not a man.

[Opinion Owner]

In the Christian religion he is remember the first Christians were all Jews.

[jshm2]

Yep. It should be called "Paulanity" as neither Christ, or his parents or half brothers were Christians.

[Randalama]

Don't care. I have a policy of noncompliance whenever anyone says I must OBEY. Mandatory fuckoff.

[Wade12345]

So you literally are telling God to "go fuck himself" right now?

You wouldn't be the first Atheist I'veseen respond that way.

You Atheists are so arrogant. You actually believe you have some sort of moral high ground over God himself. One day you are going to find out how wrong you are; how very ignorant you really are.

[Randalama]

Why do you assume I'm an atheist? Perhaps GOD taught me some hard truths. My GOD taught me I was free so my natural response is fuckoff. Why is your demanding GOD better. Because you say so? I need more!

[Wade12345]

Your "god" is a liar if he told you that you don't need to Obey The True Creator.
Your "god" contradicts himself from one sentence to another, and you telling me to "fuck off" for telling people to obey THE TRUE CREATOR only proves you have no idea who or what you are worshiping.

You act like an atheist. Only atheists and agnostics tell God to "fuck off".

If you really think the real God told you to act like that, you are deceiving your own self, guy.

[Randalama]

Yes but again we are assuming your GOD is the GOD. And then you insist we have a conversation about my arrogance. I don't think you speak for GOD. I think you speak for yourself. Your whole question is based on the premise that you are better than everbody else but your question and response demonstrate that this is not the truth. Don't demand that everybody else should act in the way you approve. Just try to be better yourself. Lots of work to be done in that area.

[Wade12345]

lol. You are a liar and false accuser. Where did I claim to be better than anyone else?

liar. I never even spoke about myself until you falsely accused me just now.

[Randalama]

No, what you have written is the fantasy that you created in your head. This is not GOD'S creation, this is your creation, and you have created it to absolve yourself of responsibility. You claim superiority through WORD. I create responsibility through DEED. It couldn't be anymore clear. Put up or shut up Godly man.